Year End Roundup: An Interview with Dr. Joe Dispenza (Part I)
You and your team just completed the first full year of seven-day events. From where the work was a year ago (with the workshops being four-and-a-half days) to where they are now (with the workshops being week-long events), how has the work evolved?
The whole purpose of changing to seven-day events was because right around the end of the original four-and-a-half day advanced workshops, which was usually on Saturday or Sunday, people started to have miraculous, wonderful, transcendental experiences. These experiences led to mystical moments, healings of both the mind and body, and the creation of wonderful opportunities in our students’ lives. But then right when it started to get really interesting, right when we were starting to gain momentum, the event was over.
So the rational was, if we could get people to retreat from their lives for seven days—if we could give them numerous opportunities to connect to the field and get beyond themselves, as well as apply a formula that we now know based on our research produces significant energetic, biological, neurological, chemical, hormonal, and genetic changes—then we could go further than we had ever gone before, and that’s exactly what’s happened. This year we had ten week-long events and the outcomes have been way bigger and better than I could have ever imagined. In fact, I never thought that I would be witnessing in my lifetime what I am currently witnessing. In a sense, I am waking up in my dream.
It really is. What’s most exciting to me is that we have a community of people who are beginning to philosophically, intellectually, and theoretically understand the language—and science is that language—of how to be a creator and how to affect our outer world by changing our inner world. We have a community of people who have been practicing this for a period of time, and we now know based on our research that a good portion of our community has the ability to do this very well, thus it’s becoming so much more common.
How do they do it?
It’s really no different than learning and practicing how to ski. Each time you go down the mountain you get more comfortable with the idea of skiing. Thus each time you go down the mountain you challenge yourself a little more. Your skiing becomes more complex, more sophisticated, and on more complicated slopes. This challenges you to master some aspect of skiing and this is exactly what’s happening at our seven day events. People are connecting more deeply with the field and as a result we’ve seen significant remissions of all kinds of health conditions from cancers to tumors to Parkinson’s, ALS, MS, lupus, skin disorders, and genetic disorders, to name a few. Some conditions that were difficult to diagnose even disappeared instantaneously. The instantaneous change is a testament to our students not only being able to develop as a skill connecting to a certain level of consciousness, but connecting to a field of information so as to employ that connection towards an outcome. So if you do this enough times, it gets easier and becomes a skill.
At our seven-day events we’ve seen dramatic changes not only in people’s health, but healings from past childhood traumas and scars, some of which our students didn’t even know they had. For many, these healings and mystical moments transcend language. In addition, our students are beginning to better understand dimensions. In our community, the ability to heal others is also becoming common, or the new normal. The creation of something out of nothing is something that has become an ambition for certain students and some students are getting very good at it. This means they’ve thought about the process enough times so as to stop doing things the way they’ve been doing them and start applying the formula. But all of this is to have people function better in their lives.
What does functioning better in their lives mean exactly?
What we’ve found is that if we give people an opportunity to apply the same formula we use in our events—that is to say while they are sitting comfortably with their eyes closed and listening to gentle music—and then we present them with a challenge activity, if they can apply that formula with their eyes open they can master the moment. And if they are mastering the moment, then they are not succumbing to the seduction of stress hormones or the hardwired programs that have over thousands of years become genetic programs. This is how fear became adapted.
So in the challenge activities, if we set up conditions where our students would normally feel fear or any self-limiting emotion—where they would normally be discouraged, where the voice in their head rises up against their will, where their heart and brain become incoherent because of their reaction to a situation—if they can transcend that fear they can begin to transcend their genetic propensities. Now we’re going counter to our biology. If you can rise above those programs, unconscious reactions and behaviors when presented with a challenge activity, then when the challenges in your life arise, you can move through whatever that barrier, adversity, or resistance is with a certain amount of coherence and rhythm. This requires us to rise to a different level of consciousness—a consciousness of the heart. That is for example, to surrender to love instead of fear.
Our last seven years of research tells us that our community is very good at doing this, so let’s step it up. If we are first able to do this at our workshops with our eyes closed, and can then do it with our eyes open in a challenge activity, when we return back to our lives we can more easily break out of the prison we’ve created for ourselves. Now when we come up against those challenges and adversities, we don’t contract, but rather we move through them by applying that same formula. Every time we contract, we build walls around ourselves, but now our students are beginning to understand they hold the keys to their own prison.
As our students move through these barriers, we’re seeing that this is where the most magic happens in their lives. But all of the work really comes down to optimal functioning in the world and living and creating the life we want. So I feel really solid and happy about the progress we’ve made in 2018.
Have there been any outcomes that are particularly surprising to you?
There’ve been a few. First, in our coherence healings we’re seeing profound changes in people’s physical bodies without ever having to touch them. Coherence healings are where we teach our students how to collectively create a coherent field of energy around a person who needs some sort of healing. In doing this, we’ve seen tumors disappear and we’ve seen more than one stroke victim restore motor and sensory function. We’ve also seen massive changes in immune regulation and nervous system disorders.
In an instant we’ve also seen people who were partially blind be able to see, or people with hearing problems suddenly be able to hear. These are healings of biblical proportion, and when you see, experience, witness, and/or are a part of the healing, you start to feel more empowered. You start to believe you can do more—and then you start to believe other things are possible. We’ve gotten really good at the coherence healing, but I want to push our community to get great at it. So that has been significant and really memorable.
Second, in some of the challenge activities we’ve done we’ve seen massive breakthroughs in people’s fear and anxiety levels, as well as their levels of worry and vigilance. We’ve also seen significant changes in people’s depression and suicidal tendencies. When people in these challenge activities understand what they are doing and why, the how gets easier, and this has led to some really big breakthroughs.
The third thing that was unexpected for me was the increased level of consciousness, connection, love, and energy that our community shares as a collective. At this point we, as a species of human beings, are a living organism and the living organism knows how to sustain itself. It knows how to grow and flourish and it knows how to take care of and heal the living organisms that aren’t doing well, so we are taking care of one another. There is a level of connection that is taking place where you have a group of people who are striving to create a new normal—and they are passionate about it. I am so proud of them because they do the work and they are overcoming fear and several limited emotions. So those are some of the things that are memorable for me.
Is there one in particular healing that stands out in your mind?
Well, there was one recently in Brighton where a woman nurse had a stroke and the stroke affected her optic nerve. Because the optic nerve feeds the back of the brain, as she looked out to see what would normally be a circular visual field, in the left lower quadrant of her field of vision—from 6 o’clock to 9 o’clock—she was blinded. That means a quarter of her vision was missing when she looked down and to the left.
When she went to seek medical care, the doctors told her that her condition would probably stay the same or get worse, so she was going to have to learn to live with it. However, one doctor who was a colleague said to her, “Why don’t you try the work from Joe Dispenza?” As you might imagine, for a number of reasons this was really shocking to me.
So this woman did the online course, she read all the books, and prepared herself for the event in Brighton. At the end of one of the meditations, as she laid down she started hearing this crackling sound in her brain, as if crumpled-up paper was being pulled out of her head. Because it was so clear, so loud, and so unknown, she surrendered to it. When she came back to her senses, to her amazement she could see completely. On the Monday morning after the event she went to the doctor for a visual field test. Based on objective measurements, she experienced a complete 100% recovery to her field of vision.
Now the most interesting part of this is that people who witnessed this started to believe it’s possible. You see, from a medical standpoint, the medical model says that recovery from a stroke will usually occur in two weeks. If recovery doesn’t happen in that time, you shouldn’t expect any changes. In other words, in the normal, conventional model of medicine, nerve damage has lasting effects.
But if you understand the science of how it’s not matter that emits the field—it’s the field that creates matter, and that if you change the field you change matter—then you could see how something that has literally been irreversible in medical history could be possible. We’ve had other stroke victims who were paralyzed and couldn’t lift their arm over their head, and yet after the coherence healing they could. So there’s big, exciting stuff happening and we’re going to start documenting it so as to create some metrics around it.
So how have you changed personally in the past year?
I think the biggest thing for me is that I am falling more in love with the work, with what we’re doing, and with our wonderful community of individuals. I am constantly thinking of new ways to stretch our culture in novel, methodical, and organized ways that are still within the realm of their acceptance—within the realm of the next level that they can stretch to and ultimately execute.
I really don’t want to do anything else. I’m not interested in keynotes or conferences and I’m not interested in events where it’s all theory and philosophy. I don’t want to talk about history—I want to make history. So I’m super humbled, honored, inspired, and in love with what we’re doing. We have great momentum and for the most part I’m waking up in my dream every day.
You’ve mentioned children’s hospitals being a place in which to bring the work. What do you see beyond that?
Children’s hospitals are a way for us to connect, work with and heal children who have not been responsive to typical treatments—innocent children who perhaps have a genetic disorder, a disease that has been signaled in utero or from birth, or they’ve had some type of trauma or injury. When our community can execute the “coherence healing” at a really consistent basis, reproduce a certain level of results, or produce a change by at least 50% of the time (that’s at least one out of two people), then based on those metrics, I want to work with physicians at certain children’s hospitals who are open-minded. We already have some hospitals that are interested in what we’re doing and I have a few solid relationships with researchers, including one out of M.I.T. So it’s a good possibility. We want nothing in return—just an opportunity to give life to another’s life. But we have to be consistent and competent with this work.
Once the people in our community see a little person, a little friend, a little patient struggling with cancer and receiving chemo, or challenged with the pain and discomfort that comes from a birth defect, I can’t imagine they won’t be able to just open their hearts with love, and it’s that power of love that heals. With young children, you’re not working against a lot subconscious hardwired programs and emotions from past experiences, so when we do this properly, we could really change the future of our young children…and that could change the world.
To do this, we’ll do the metrics and develop some statistics. Once we get the stats, I want to apply the work at these children’s hospitals. But I don’t want our community to go in there as spiritual people trying to do energy healing and so on. I want to walk in and say—here are our statistics, here’s our research, and this is the kind of results we’ve been getting. We don’t want any money, recognition, special privileges—all we want to do is help. That’s how we’re going to frame it.
At the last Advanced Workshop of the year in Cancun Mexico, 950 people were in attendance. The theme of the workshop was Upgrading the Human Operating System. What does that mean?
Very simply, if you’re plugged into the three-dimensional reality of your senses, the way that we evolve or change our gene expression is to overcome the conditions in our outer environment. When an organism is facing significant challenges and/or a high level of adversity like changes in climate, altitude, predators, available food or water, population fluctuations and so on, it becomes a process of adaption through trial and error—and that may take a long time for a particular species to succeed. A certain percent of the population of that species will become diminished because they weren’t able to overcome their environment. At the same time, a certain percentage of those organisms will make a different choice by modifying their behaviors, and when they do, they create a different experience.
The experience then produces chemical feedback from the senses and that’s chemical information coming from the environment. Over an extended period of time, that chemical information can reprogram genes. Because genes make proteins and proteins are responsible for structure and function, in a sense, new signals to new genes occur and the gene begins to modify the expression of protein. Since proteins are responsible for the structure and function of the body, physiological and structural changes begin to change the form and internal make-up of the organism’s body. This could perhaps result in thicker fur, better eyesight, more fast-twitch fibers in the muscles of the limbs to increase their speed to outrun predators, camouflage, and so on. Thus, the reason why the organism is adapting is because of feedback from the environment in the form of chemical information. Information that comes from a new experience through sensory feedback will cause the organism and future offspring to thrive in those same environmental conditions. This insures that the population of that species can live, survive, and thrive in those new conditions.
The problem is it may take thousands of exposures to the same conditions and/or thousands of years for that new behavior to become ingrained in the gene pool or in part of the community or species. It’s a matter of quite a bit of trial and error. So for a gene to be reprogrammed, it can take hundreds of thousands of years.
But the alternative is that if you can connect to a field of information called the quantum field—and you know how to interact with that energy and information—then once that door is open and you apply the formula, you can begin to cause more immediate changes in the biology of the organism. When you understand from a physiological standpoint how this happens, when you connect to that energy and the brain begins processing a new stream of information and a new energy, that energy is frequency and that frequency is carrying information. That energy and information is not coming from the three-dimensional reality of matter—it’s coming from the field, and it’s the field that changes matter.
When you demystify that process and give people a chance to apply it, the outcome is they feel better—their system works better and their body moves back to wholeness and oneness. The body restores itself because the signature of the quantum field is greater levels of order and oneness. When that can be translated to the body, because our cells are more receptive to electromagnetism than they are to chemistry, then the cells begin to get specific downloads of information or new instructions, and that download of information begins to reprogram the human operating system. As we discussed, the side effect is instantaneous changes from all kind of things, and the result is healings, mystical experiences, intuition, epiphanies, answers to problems that cannot be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it, and so on.
As we close out 2018 and begin 2019, is there anything you’d like to share with the community?
The only thing I would like to say is we are going somewhere. In 2018 we made great strides, covered a lot of territory, did great things, changed a lot of lives, and healed a lot of bodies, minds, and souls. We have not reached the end, we are just at the beginning. We’ve pierced a veil in consciousness or awareness. We’ve broken the four-minute mile. When you cross the four-minute mile, things begin to change because now it’s not just a footprint in the quantum—it’s an effect, such as blind people seeing, deaf people hearing, or a tumor shrinking. This is physical evidence that it is happening right before your eyes in 3D reality. Now other people can begin to latch on to the idea that if others can do it, so can I. Witnessing the tangible evidence in three-dimensional reality is when things begin to get really exciting because evidence speaks louder than words.
If you see someone who has a change in their body, experienced a miracle, created something out of nothing, or has done something supernatural—and you see that that person is no different than you—then just like when you cross that four-minute mile, there’s a shift in consciousness, and then everybody starts to cross it. That’s what I’m looking forward to, a new normal that’s accessible to everybody, not just a few or chosen people. For all of us, we are part of a living organism—a species of human beings—but we have not yet reached our full potential.
So I am really proud of our community, I’m proud of what we’re able to execute, and I’m proud of the new normal that is giving people permission to begin to realize it doesn’t matter if they are young, old, overweight, underweight, white, black, Asian, rich, poor—none of those labels matter. Those labels all amount to separation.
When we get better at this, when we reach our true potential, I think we’re really going to make a big difference in the world. That’s a living organism taking care of itself.
Tim Shields is the author of ‘A Curious Year in the Great Vivarium Experiment.’ Learn more or watch the trailer here.