SWISSINDO Delegate Has No Luck Being Removed
Updated 11.3.13
Irena was a delegate for a little while with SWISSINDO, she shared her letters to and from those in charge to get her name removed from the list of delegates. That is shared here in transparency. Irena’s name still has not been removed and you can still see her name on the list of delegates here in the original post.
IRENA KOROSEC <peoplestrustmontreal@gmail.com>
5. 9.
Dear Mr. Grundy,
It has come to my attention that my name has not been removed from the Council list (document attached) even though I had forwarded my resignation to you in writing on July 28th 2013.
Please remove it immediately and confirm this in writing to me as soon as possible.
Sincerely,
Irena Korosec
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———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Desmond Grundy
Date: Wednesday, September 4, 2013
Subject: Interim CVAC Paradigm
To: IRENA KOROSEC <peoplestrustmontreal@gmail.com>
Hello Irena
Thanks for your email.
We were as surprised as you were to see your name and others from the original list on this chart. We are in discussion with the persons who created this document seeking confirmation. I assure you that this is not a document I created or had anything to do with. Your name was removed and I am sending you the most recent list that we forwarded to our Indonesian partners from August 30. May I ask who sent you this document? I will ask the creators of the document to remove your name immediately.
I will keep you posted. I apologize for any discomfort this may have caused.
Thank you.
Desmond Grundy
[9:40:34 AM | Edited 9:42:03 AM] irena korosec: >>>>>>>>>>
In the interest of transparency….
BTW. my name is still there and I wrote them again today…. I will post what I received in reply.
[9:44:57 AM] irena korosec: ———- Forwarded message ———-From: Desmond Grundy
Date: Wednesday, September 4, 2013
Subject: Interim CVAC Paradigm
To: alang Jr <apri_alang@yahoo.co.id>
Cc: Paula Humfrey <paula@humfrey.ca>, IRENA KOROSEC <peoplestrustmontreal@gmail.com>
Hello Apri,
We are living in interesting times.
Below I have included an email from a very upset lady who has been included on the SwissIndo Organization chart that you provided to us a few days ago. She quit her position on the council some time ago and does not wish to be associated with the Councils in any way, as you can read below. Please provide me at this time with your assurance that Irena will be removed from any further organization charts you might create in the future so that I may calm her down and put her at ease on this matter.
Thank you.
Desmond Grundy
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Hello Apri,
Kita hidup di zaman yang menarik.
Di bawah ini saya telah menyertakan email dari seorang wanita yang sangat marah yang telah disertakan pada grafik Organisasi SwissIndo yang Anda berikan kepada kami beberapa hari yang lalu. Dia berhenti posisinya di dewan beberapa waktu lalu dan tidak ingin berhubungan dengan Dewan cara apapun, karena Anda dapat membaca di bawah ini. Tolong berikan saya saat ini dengan jaminan Anda bahwa Irena akan dihapus dari bagan organisasi lebih lanjut, Anda dapat membuat di masa depan sehingga saya bisa menenangkannya dan membuatnya tenang mengenai hal ini.
Terima kasih.
Desmond Grundy
Updated with emails sent Nov 2
On 2013-11-02, at 8:13 AM, IRENA KOROSEC wrote:
> Dear Desmond Grundy,
>
> I just received a confirmation that my name was not removed from the SwissIndo list.
> After my insisting regarding the removal of it twice in my emails to you,you have not respected my request.
> I will now take the appropriate action.
> This disrespect towards me and my name by you and your associates is very disturbing.
> Regards,
> Irena Korosec
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———- Forwarded message ———-
From: IRENA KOROSEC
Date: Saturday, November 2, 2013
Subject: Removal of my name from SI list
To: apriyanto@hushmail.com
REQUEST FOR REMOVAL OF NAME FROM SWISSINDO LIST
Dear Mr. Apriyanto;
I resigned from the SWISSINDO Delegates Council in late July 2013 after approximately a month of my being on the Council. During that time I have observed all the signs of dysfunctional, hierarchical and abusive system within this so-called organization, purporting to bring help and relief to humanity.
I resigned in writing after clearly stating my opinion to other delegates that know such organization as SWISSINDO claims to be has the right, validity, credibility or power to bring any change but only continue the old abuse of humanity.
I have since requested repeatedly that my name be removed from any list associated with your organization and yet I have been informed recently that my request has not been respected.
Which part of a simple sentence “I do not consent…” don’t you understand?
I request an immediate removal of my name from any SWISSINDO list and a written explanation and apology directly from you.
After you have complied with my request I will consider this matter closed.
Sincerely,
Irena Korosec
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———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Desmond Grundy
Date: Saturday, November 2, 2013
Subject: Removal of my name from SI list
To: IRENA KOROSEC <peoplestrustmontreal@gmail.com>
Cc: Paula Humfrey <paula@humfrey.ca>
Irena,
This is Paula Humfrey replying to you, as it’s early morning here and I picked up your email on Desmond’s machine. He is not available right now and in the interest of speed, I’m writing you back.
Please appreciate that Desmond did send your request to be removed from the list to Apriyanto and Mr. Sino not just once but twice after you requested it. I believe that you were copied on those emails. The fact that Swissindo has chosen to disregard the request has nothing to do with Desmond or myself. We do not have any control over the Swissindo principals, and we have no practical influence, either. Please recall that Deryl Zeleny (deryl@hushmail.com) recruited you. You may wish contact him or Gwen Caldwell (gwen.caldwell@hushmail.com) who is now CEO of the America’s council.
I recommend that you communicate directly with Apriyanto (apriyanto@hushmail.com) yourself and take up this matter with him.
Please leave Desmond and me out of this discussion going forward, as it has nothing to do with either of us. I don’t know which “associates” you’re referring to here, but we’re not them.
Paula
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I request the immediate removal of my name from any list associated with SWISSINDO.
I requested it a few months ago when I saw the latest SWISSINDO list and this morning again, so I sent an email to Desmond Grundy and was told to contact you and request the removal.
I do not want to be in any shape or form associated with SWISSINDO.
Regards
Irena Korosec
[12:16:41 PM] irena korosec: Her answer:
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I will send your request to Mr Apriyanto and Mr Sino…they are the only ones who have control over that. It is my understanding that they believe everyone was appointed by God and therefore even if you resign your name still remains on the flow chart….no child of God left behind…I’ll do what I can. Much love to you!
[12:17:58 PM] irena korosec: >>>>>>
My answer to Gwen :
Thank you for your kind words. I find that my will is the only one I need to abide by. They are imposing their will in the name of an entity I gave no control over my existence.
I request kindly that they provide the signature of said God and the entity’s thumbprint. Otherwise I will consider their decision against my will and will publish everywhere that their actions are fraudulent. And believe me I will.
Take care.
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11.3.13
The last from Apriyanto through Gwen Caldwell this morning via skype:
Dear Mrs. Gwen
God bless
Thank you for your information.
I have also received from Mr. Desmond verify and we already delete
Mrs. Irena corosec from our list.
data are issued through the Heather is old data.
We haven’t updated.
Thanks
Respect me
Apriyanto
And the beat goes on. There are only two kinds o people on this planet. The ones who want to peacefully co-exist and then there are the ones who wont let them.