#HATJ : Minutes of Detention Hearing 8.24.17

by / Friday, 25 August 2017 / Published in Absolute Data, HATJ



#HATJ : Minutes of Detention Hearing 8.24.17





Minutes of Detention hearing

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37 Responses to “#HATJ : Minutes of Detention Hearing 8.24.17”

  1. Cynthia says : Reply

    Is the jury date a given? Or could the case be dismissed along the way? Does anyone have an idea?

    • BZ ⒾAM Riger says : Reply

      The path they are both working on is for H, to represent herself and Randy, and perhaps have an elbow council from Frances Lloyd, who was/is the attorney who consulted at the hearing Thursday.
      He has amazing energy, I had a good phone conversation with him today.

      If it goes as far as a trial.

  2. Anasazi says : Reply

    UCC 2012114776, in the spirit of

  3. Neil A says : Reply


    I see HATR asserted her right to challenge jurisdiction, which is good because the court cannot simply assume jurisdiction but must PROVE jurisdiction, which they can never have over a living person. But the transcript says HATR then plead not guilty, which ive seen courts use that as consenting to their admiralty jurisdiction.

    The family needs to watch the corrupt courts every step of the way!

    • Aidan says : Reply

      The Courts you will Notice play with the Lower/Upper Case Names & Yes I believe the Not Guilty Plea was a big mistake & Notice the Plea Case is in the straw-woman Name & bear in mind the Case has 2 files the Judge sits with 2 files one side the DEBTOR the other the Secured Party & this Court Case creates a Monetary Bond they use off ledger

      bookkeeping which is not Legal & all Attorneys from both sides even the Counsel Advisor want the Court to make Money, the Court Clerk always has the DEBTOR file only they are attempting to make Money from her Court Case I wonder if she Accepts For Value does it Kill this Court Case in its tracks, one can do so by in Court asking for the Judges entire File

      Sign it as Agent to the straw woman (DEBTOR) & only Sign to the upper/lower Name the (Secured Party) only in BLUE INK on an Angle…The Judge is a DEBTOR SERVER a Bank Manager Pirate. They will do everything to proceed they will reject all she submits this Court wants the Money attached…What position is she in for a Queen’s Bench Judge, by

      the way, none of the Legal Team has Jurisdiction to practice challenge this as well…Stop entering in Court on the Ship’s Deck, remain seated at all times do not Move forward it is the catch…Change Plea? NO CONSENT NO JURISDICTION I DO NOT ACCEPT I AM THE LIVING WOMAN IN FLESH, GET ALSO A DOCTORS LETTER I AM ALIVE NOT A DEAD SHIP

    • Ginger says : Reply

      Agree Neil that is how they get you when you will not consent or sign, as a ward. Even Heather pleading is giving them consent. Its a slippery slope but she knows whats up. She will be fine. I predict another hearing, then she will be released. Randy will drive up in the RV and they will ride off in the Sunset with the TDAs being released in full and unfettered access. THE END. That is my ending, hope it goes this way! I say ask for the bond held by the State for the crimes I am charged with, since she is not charged, they will be forced to dismiss the case with prejudice.

  4. Anita says : Reply

    Thank you BZ! Have you spoken to her since?
    Sending galactic mega hugs!

  5. Aidan says : Reply

    if they ask a Question then She should ask her Straw-woman the Questions & answer accordingly as the Agent 🙂 The entire Court is a FRAUD BENT ON MAKING BONDS/MONEY 🙂

  6. Janis says : Reply


  7. Joey says : Reply

    I am actually in aww at how a freekin Jury trial can be set for 10/317…most of these type of cases in the past took years to go to trial. For example the Bundy case started in 2014 and is now just going to trial this year…HAHAHA

    The system was dissolved years ago……it’s actually comical to watch…all in love and light…focus and send positive energy to H and R

  8. Marilyn says : Reply

    STAY on the positive giving God the glory for Heather and Randy’s victory and used your visualization to see them walking free. Be Thankful for Victory!!!! Love, Light

  9. BeV says : Reply

    IN Focus, IN Awe , In Gratitude , to and for All who are raising the veil, deep deep deeper, as layer for layer is lifted, transparency Is Here on many levels NOW, May the Story unfold, with open Hearts, Be received and acknowledged, with Compassion for this knowledge. TOGETHER

  10. Chris says : Reply

    I think the not guilty plea was an excellent strategy. She says she is not guilty because they have no jurisdiction on her and cannot make a judgment one way or the other. Still think she should sign nothing.

  11. Chris says : Reply

    This is not Heather’s first rodeo.

  12. Karen says : Reply

    #1 Need to ask for bid bond

    2. Once jurisdiction is challenged, the court cannot proceed when it clearly appears that the court lacks jurisdiction, the court has no authority to reach merits, but, rather, should dismiss the action.” Melo v. US, 505 F2d 1026.
    “Court must prove on the record, all jurisdiction facts related to the jurisdiction asserted.”
    Latana v. Hopper, 102 F. 2d 188; Chicago v. New York, 37 F Supp. 150.
    “The law provides that once State and Federal Jurisdiction has been challenged, it must be proven.”
    Main v. Thiboutot, 100 S. Ct. 2502 (1980).
    “Jurisdiction can be challenged at any time.” and “Jurisdiction, once challenged, cannot be assumed and must be decided.”
    Basso v. Utah Power & Light Co., 495 F 2d 906, 910.
    “Defense of lack of jurisdiction over the subject matter may be raised at any time, even on appeal.”
    Hill Top Developers v. Holiday Pines Service Corp., 478 So. 2d. 368 (Fla 2nd DCA 1985)
    “Once challenged, jurisdiction cannot be assumed, it must be proved to exist.” Stuck v. Medical Examiners, 94 Ca 2d 751. 211 P2d 389.

    “There is no discretion to ignore that lack of jurisdiction.” Joyce v. US, 474 F2d 215.

    “The burden shifts to the court to prove jurisdiction.” Rosemond v. Lambert, 469 F2d 416.

    “A universal principle as old as the law is that a proceedings of a court without jurisdiction are a nullity and its judgment therein without effect either on person or property.” Norwood v. Renfield, 34 C 329; Ex parte Giambonini, 49 P. 732.

    “Jurisdiction is fundamental and a judgment rendered by a court that does not have jurisdiction to hear is void, ab initio.”
    In Re Application of Wyatt, 300 P. 132; Re Cavitt, 118 P2d 846.

    “Thus, where a judicial tribunal has no jurisdiction of the subject matter on which it assumes to act, its proceedings are absolutely void in the fullest sense of the term.” Dillon v. Dillon, 187 P 27.

    “Where a court failed to observe safeguards, it amounts to denial of due process of law, court is deprived of juris.”
    Merritt v. Hunter, C.A. Kansas 170 F2d 739.

    Heather and Randy Will be set free…………………….

  13. David Torres says : Reply

    Hello BZ, I’ve been trying to get in touch with you I’m from the group Access To Value, and i was just wondering If Me and some of the people from the group can help i have this guy in the group that wants to get in contact with you because he has a possible remedy to help heather get out so please if you can some how get your email address to me so i can give it to him to get in contact with you. we eagerly want to help please you can find me on facebook group contact me on private message. i hope to hear from you thanks

  14. David Torres says : Reply

    we are tired of not doing anything and letting things like this happen enough is enough. i was thinking couldn’t we get all this evidence of wrong doings and write a professional letter to the president and attach evidence to the letter. i don’t know if this was attempted, but im trying to come up with ideas

    • Anna says : Reply

      Maybe you should catch the president’s attention first (Twitter, FB…) by exposing the matter publicly to his attention, and ask for an appointment. 😉
      Your demands have to be public first as there is a risk they will be stifled in the red tape leading to the president without him knowing about them. The Deep State is everywhere and is watching.
      Just a thought.

  15. John Dziegiel says : Reply

    If she wants the matter tried before a judge for all to see and benefit from the ruling she would have to plea and grant jurisdiction. She is taking a big risk.

    • NOEL says : Reply

      There seems to be an abundance of lawyers on this site giving advice TO THE ONE WHO KNOWS BEST….HEATHER. Heather knows 100% what she is doing, this is why she is representing herself.Getting everything on the COURTS RECORD and Trial by Jury.
      WILL BE THE NAIL IN THE COFFIN for their slavery system.

  16. Mary Ann says : Reply

    Why are they using upper and lower case letters in one ,and All upper in the other in Heather Name .I don’t under stand ,what they are trying to do, I thank the Judge is the one needs to be in jail. As they all need to be in jail .Not Heather. God Bless her and Randall We are holding the Light. Love and Good Health

    Heather .

  17. Dee Ess Double Ewe says : Reply

    YOU GO GIRL!!!!

  18. Anasazi says : Reply

    I find it hard to believe that Heather would “agree” to be detained. Court transcripts already smell.

  19. Avau says : Reply

    Thank you BZ for updating us. Pray and sending love and light and positive vibes (lots of energy) toward Heather, Randy, and all attorneys and Judges involve in this unfolding event. Much love and light to you all, especially to you Heather and Randy.
    BZ, did the Court ever issued a bail for either Heather or Randy since this whole thing started? I don’t remember reading about it anywhere, did they? And how much?

    • BZ ⒾAM Riger says : Reply

      no, they have not Bond/bail them. They are considered a flight risk. 😉
      We have secured an address in TN, so we can file a motion to have them released with tracking, passports taken, no fly list etc. so that they may prepare for their trial, if we go on that path.

  20. Paul Barratt says : Reply

    Sending love and light. Heather and Randy Will be set free……

  21. The powers that were are now totaly up against the wall. It’s an energetic numbers game. Millions are watching. The 13 Dominos starting from the smallest little 1/8″ high, when doubles in size for each consectutive one up to the 13th… The energy is magnified by millions… So it it done as Heather has said. Any outcome will cause such a build up of all of our true hearts desire. We are the little domino’s, watch us be and do…. Love

  22. Brenda T says : Reply

    I request any and all BEings for a most benevolent outcome for Heather and Randy tomorrow during the jurisdiction hearing.

    So many blessings sent their way.

    Brenda T

  23. Holding lots of Love Light & Blessings up for you Heather. You Go Girl!!! Thank You for all You do.✨

  24. franc says : Reply

    Living human beings can only be present, not represent. To represent means to act for another living human being or a fiction. Since Heather and Randy are not representing another living human being, they can only be consenting to represent a fiction, the strawman being charged. Also, entering a plea is consent as well to participate in what their captors are doing. Heather and Randy are going along with a rigged game. By doing all of this, I doubt that the outcome will be in their favor. We shall see.

  25. Polly Gallo says : Reply

    There are LOTS of ideas,
    1.the arresting officer can’t seem to spell his name with any consistency. At Heather identity hearing I wonder who Parker Stills is or is it Parker Stella? He spelled both?
    2. Why didn’t secret service arrest Heather if there was a warrent?
    3. What is an arrest code 999? It is Not in any pencil code dictionary for any arrest warrants for DC.or Tennessee?
    4. Arrest warrant was signed by a clerk NOT a Judge. While that may be allowed in some federal courts it goes against the constitution.
    5. Why wasn’t arresting officer at identity hearing, Why was he never named?
    6. Why did the head of USAA’s fraud division head (Tom Shaw) leave after Randals and Heathers arrest?
    7. Who asked for immunity? Wss it Mr.Bos? At identity hearing or was it agent Parker H. Stills?
    8.WHY was the man that called the FBI never named? Who has now left that job. Subpoena him!
    I could go on but I’m not sure if this will post.
    All of these questions add up to a very shaky start on behalf of the government. And their case. I have never seen such sketchy testimony in my life.

  26. Polly Gallo says : Reply

    Sorry auto correct had its way with my writing. It was Parker Stills and then Parker Steills can the man NOT remember his OWN Name? I find that suspicious.

  27. I have Not seen any viable updates on this page! so What is really happening as of September 15, 2017, will any of the Family, or anybody respond! We All have to bind as one force to work as ONE. Each and every one of You, has within the ability and the power to make a positive contribution be it what May! But we have to work as ONE Purpose!

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