You Are The Value…
June 1st is the projected launch date of Project 13
***** Update *****
Windows 8 App is Live you can download the app for free http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/search?q=Project+XIII , then follow directions within the app to start your subscription which will be $1 a month after the first 60 days.
PROJECT XII Website LIVE ! http://www.projectxiii.com/
American Kabuki interviews Caleb Skinner about Project 13 click here to watch the video
The Official Project 13 Website:
There will be an official website for Project 13. There will be an official spokesperson for the Project 13 Company once the software is released. This page is NOT that official website, release or spokesperson platform.
This page is here to provide access to information as it is understood and offered to the I UV web creative team.
This page Should NOT be confused as the official page for Project 13. That website is Not live yet. When it goes live and we learn of it we will publish the link here.
Project 13 is Totally Separate from the I UV Ixchange.
Project 13 is expected to be launched on June 1st.
The P13 software application is a specific tool designed to let people share data back and forth in a secure, non “harvesting” environment. It is designed as a tool to give subscribers a safe secure platform to share their data and to interact with the people they choose to interact with, like they might on Facebook, or other social networking platforms. It is designed to allow people the space to do that without their data or energy being harvested by the PTW.
When the “mechanism” of the tool known as the I UV Ixchange is released, it will be one of many tools that subscribers of Project 13 can access. By “mechanism” we mean the component that gives people access to their value in a way that is “spendable” and can be used to buy a loaf of bread or purchase a product or pay for a service or an experience.
Project 13 software is a valuable tool to do exactly what it is designed to do. People will want to subscribe to Project 13 because they want to make use of the unique functions it provides.
The I UV Ixchange is totally separate from Project 13, although when it’s rolled out, Project 13 will be an access point for it.
The following information is being updated as the web team becomes apprised.
Dates, devices, etc. may change moment-by-moment. Please stay tuned.
The following platforms will be compatible at the projected launch:
1) Windows Mobile App
2) Silverlight program for Windows PC, and Mac OS (computers, not the mobile phones)- Possibly Delayed ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Silverlight to download the platform free from Cnet click here
3) iPhone/iPad App ( available for download in the iTunes App Store on June 1st ) - Heather announced 5.28.13 that iPhone takes 30% of every transaction that you’ll do on your Ixchange using the iPhone app.
Once you have the device, you’ll need to download the Project 13 software from your device application store.
The Project 13 app will be free.
The next step is to go to the Project 13 web site to set up an account and become a subscriber, in order to use the Project 13 software.
The cost to subscribe will be 1 unit of money per month: US$1, 1 Euro, 1 Yen, etc. Initially it will be US$1 per month until currencies are added.
Once you have a subscriber account, you’ll be provided a code or a ‘key’ necessary to activate the Project 13 software on your device.
You will be able to use your Project 13 user account on multiple devices that run the Project 13 platform.
For those who want to know, there will be a link on the Project 13 site to learn about the security protocol behind the software called VEXS or Virtual Extension of Self Protocol.
Tutorials:
Because the I-UV web team has not seen an advanced copy of the Project 13 software, we’re presently unable to develop the user guidelines, which we had hoped to publish for you at the moment of launch.
When the software does launch, we’ll learn the program as fast as we can and produce the tutorials as fast as we can. These tutorials will offer step-by-step instructions on getting started.
Until then, since many are unfamiliar with some of the Project 13-compatible devices, here are some basic tutorials to get you up to speed on the device of your choice prior to the roll out on June 1st.
Note:
87% of world population has a mobile phone according to stats last update in 2011. The stats probably do not take into account some people with no phones and some with more that one phone… some who have phone but can not afford to have it currently active.
It is probably a good bet that most of those are simple phones, not the smart phones needed to run Project 13 or the I UV Ixcahnge. Still its a good percentage and when spreading the word about the I UV Ixchange will make it a wee bit easier as the % of people with no cell phones is not huge.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_mobile_phones_in_use
Windows Phone Tutorial: Getting started with Windows Phone 8
iPhone 101: Getting started with iOS 4
Apple iPhone 5 Getting Started
What is Silverlight? (Part 1/2)
How To Download and Install Apps On iPhone or iPod Touch
How to Download Apps on a Windows Phone - O2 Guru TV
967 Responses to “You Are The Value…”
Whooo hooo, wonderf-full, thank you all
I like this new adventure in social networking and more,,,can’t wait. Plus David Icke is rolling out a People;s Voice TV station to rival mass media such innovative genius. They both will succeed…just know it! Thank You For Caring and being able to do this many blessings to all
Excuse me please,on another note. Would you happen to know what is meant by “perth mint” on the invoice for the courtesy notices?
What would be the default notice date &you the receipt date? How do you prepare a lnvoice step by step/1 2 3,a b c?
hi Tango, don’t know if you got your answer about Perth Mint, Perth is a City in Western Australia and the Mint is a place that prints money and sells gold and silver. Hope this answers your question although it maybe late. Cheers.
that is where they get the silver from. PERTH MINT
if there is no admin what you going to do about things like child pron? even fb has a serious issue with that right now. why have we got this when caleb was supposed to be working on i/uv?
Peace Gary…From what I understand, Project 13 is the secure platform on which the UV Ixchange will be run, a stable foundation to build the house on. Once the platform is up & running, profiles created etc, then the UV Ixchange will be added…as for child porn, never crossed my mind, & i won’t speak to it except to say that no one gets away with anything, no matter who free our will is, actions have reactions… #UniversalLaw
Gary, I don’t think this is going to attract that element, but I could be wrong. You are your own admin. So if you have that kind of material on your site, you’re responsible for the consequences. Right now I think you might be jumping a little early on how it works. After all, it hasn’t quite reached the launch date yet so no one really knows, other than those who are building it, what it really does.
All I want is the PC version to be released so I can get my hands on it and make it happen. There is a bunch of suffering out there. I want to help.
Scot, I too want access to the PC version in order to help, Do you think this is going to allow true access to our secured value pursuant to the UCC filings?
From what folks are saying, it appears that Project XIII is the stepping stone for the UV exchange to be launched soon after. It’s a secure platform for the rest of this stuff to function in. If we don’t have a secure platform the powers that were will have access to our value as they have access to everyone’s info, currently. How it functions is yet to be seen. It all depends on people and what they’re willing to do with this new paradigm from what I can tell. If people don’t fight back against the system the correct way, we’re doomed to continue down that path, for sure. If the value exchange functions the way that it has been explained, it is going to be one hell of a ride, thereafter.
Oh, and the PC version is coming out soon, too. I’m guessing that it’s going to be right after the release of the others.
And how is it going to function, exactly? Can’t find any explanations of that anywhere.
Harald, I don’ know much about the functioning. I’m as aware as you regarding that.
My interpretation is that it’s an internet space where you can move information and do commerce without the former slavery system being able to harvest your info. I wish I knew how it was going to work as well. We’ll have to wait and see. I have high hopes but realistic expectations.
I don’t use a smart phone, so I was wondering if you could run this software on a laptop.
Yes.
I really want your honest opinion on several questions that make absolutely no sense to me. I see it as living in 2 worlds. Two worlds that are totally incongruent within each world and totally crazy between these two worlds. Here goes. World 1 is living here on planet earth which I feel that she is in a transition. However I sense that 99% of the people have no idea what’s going on. We have the cabal which seems to be still in control and those that have been arrested are still walking around free. How queer is this galactic way of life where it appears these satanic, genocide killers get away with human genocide of billions of people over the centuries. I would expect total execution of every damned one of them. At the same time what the hell is going on in Washington when everyday is a new scandal appears and nothing is followed through. Just think of how many open issues there are right now. I stopped following it because it’s truly maddening. Nothing makes sense. How about this. Fifteen years since NESARA was signed and not a damned thing has been done with it. What the hell gives?
World 2 is this ascension bullshit??? Is it bullshit? I honestly can’t give a positive response to this question. We’re suppose to be lovey dovey when in the meantime earth is in complete disarray. Are we suppose to be split personality? This galactic and ascended masters crap is sickening. These goofballs put me and maybe others in a very ambiguous situation. Right now I don’t even believe in God let alone all these other phoneys. I have never been in such a spiritual whirlwind as I am today. This certainly is not the God I knew since childhood. It appears everything revolves around astrology which was bullshit as a child growing up.
Lastly world 1 and world 2 are like trying to mix oil and water. The one major thing that is true to both worlds appears to me that there is no progress. For example the worthlessness of NESARA. And the one thing that I keep
trying to rationalize is if there is a god, then why would he let billions of humans suffer and die under the cabal. Is he a powerless god who doesn’t give a damn or what because I have never got a good answer from anyone. There are a lot of so-called ascended masters who sidestep the question. But isn’t this a legitimate question? If god is almighty why does he turn his back on humanity. Now I’m going to tell you that I can’t accept things on blind faith.
I’m too damned analytical. Maybe I need to crawl into one of those machines to get me vibrating faster. ( oh brother what a joke is that) I don’t want to hear from another moron who can’t give an answer. These nut cases say when the light increases that you may get headaches, Bullshit. My headaches have been from thinking too much or chemtrails killing me from the 20 years of buildup of toxicity.
My goal is not to disturb your faith. But I am Thomas, who even had to feel Jesus’s wound until he was convinced that Jesus did come back after the third day (The Resurrection).
I was expecting an answer but what I thought all along is true and the truth is all of you are mindless morons. None of you know the meaning of life and you all are the typical human who bounces along with life with accepting everything someone tells you but yet you can’t think on your own two feet. Wisdom and philisophical believe is the way to truth and as far as I can see not one of you have a concept to the truth and that is what will set you free. I feel all of you are lost souls and some of that is the poor job the galactics are doing. Galactics, you are completely off the wall. I blame you for throwing too much shit toward eartly beings. You put us all in a vicarious position by pushing this ascension crap and at the same time trying to deal with earth that is burning in hell. If you don’t understand what I’m talking about, galactics, then I feel very sorry for your half-hearted attempt to make your purpose here a success because you are failing miserably. You come across as having only one agenda but can’t see beyound the forrest that humanity is like chaffe being thrown into the wind. Everything you say is happening is bull shit in my opinion. Humanity has been placed between a rock and a hard place and it things don’t change soon, then I’m ready for civil war. I refuse to die from old age-what a waste. I would rather die for a cause just as Patrick Henry believed and that what was “Give me liberty or give death.” Everything in my spirit is telling me these damned galactics are trying to make us walk way before we have had a chance to crawl and in many cases before we have gotten out of the womb. I hope I am putting you galactics on the defensive because my heart of hearts is telling me that humanity is being pushed onto the freeway and we have no clue what direction things are coming from. You have to do a better job than this. My god, think it through.
Gary, the new energies are for us to believe in the best of who we are and what we are as one and all collective . We have mastered the duality and crap, it is time to move on to our highest bestest potential, capabilities , talents , the fullest awesomesst expression of our living being soul , heart centered for the greater good. Foooocccccuuuussssssss !!!!!! ( Peanut from Jeff Dunham)
You brilliant being, shine on brother
Man you sure wasted a lot of energy on being negative. Are you related to that guy or made that law? Murphy!
Woohoo!!!! Thanks for the update…we love you all and are so very grateful to you all!!!
Obvious question: How are millions of poeple going to be able to download Project 13 and The I UV Ixchange without the correct i-phone, i-pod etc? Will there be a version for those without these gizmos that just have plain ol’ computers?
Jane, re-read…it will be accessible to PC’s on the Silverlight platform, downloadable from a link in the description.
Here is a detailed explanation of Silverlight http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silverlight
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Why are Caleb using Microsoft Silverlight? Microsoft is part of the Cabal (B.G.)
I have Ubuntu Linux and an Android smartphone…I’m I cut off?
John, On the OPPT show May 19th, Mark addresses all of that. (GREAT show to listen to btw)
They’ll be coming shortly after the main launch, due to Android having something like 46 different versions (or something like that). No worries. You can use it on your home computer first off.
Yes maybe he should have just written both the client and server apps from scratch in C including any library routines just in case and I am sure everyone’s patience could handle the extra year or two and besides any REAL ‘nix user is always willing to port the sources or at least hack on them enough to get a clean compile anyway right? So make your O/S choice and pay your dues in effort or convenience like everyone else since we are all equal part-takers in universal essence and either be or do or both even though Caleb is doing overtime on his own nickel for everyone else’s benefit, right?
Alot of us here in Canada use Android so how will we be able to access this?
Everyone who hasn’t listened to the TOP show may not know that the Android will come last because the platform they use have 40 or so versions. Why it has to be so you have to ask the manufacturer.
History shows that Android always is last in line when new stuff is released, again it’s the manufacturer who made this process slow..
Iphone have a more easy way of making apps, that’s why it will be ready at launch.
Thankyou for All the time and work YOU have done for us ALL . I love you. Namaste
It is with love and the utmost respect that I would like to ask if project 13 will be available for use by adults only, or will children be able to set up their own accounts as well ? If children are to be counted equally as part of the worlds population, would it then stand to reason that the children will also have access to their value through the I UV Exchange account when the times comes ?
Thank you kindly,
Blessings of Love & Light to every one of you who have played a part in bringing our universal dream of freedom come into being..may we all lead by example <3
I think that if parents want their children to set up an account, it’s up to them.
Can someone explain what is meant by this….
“The cost to subscribe will be 1 unit of money per month: US$1, AUD$1, 1 Franc, 1 Deutschmark, etc. Initially it will be US$1 per month until currencies are added.”
Until currencies are added? I don’t understand, if we will be able to access our value, then why not use that instead of Fiat Money?
Thank you for asking Michael. I have the same question? I also believe that even this small subscription fee will deter a lot of people.
On one of the Collective Imagination radio shows it was suggested that if one can afford it pay for several - or just two - subscriptions do so so that those who have a problem paying initially will not be prevented from participating..
$ 1.00 per month from an estimated 7 billion people….. Woowee!!…. tha’s a lot of bread !!!
Remember what a dollar a month is right now, Deborah. A dollar is a phoney piece of paper used in a system which is on the very close verge of collapse. You’re giving away things that aren’t worth anything in a very short time.
This was fully explained in one of the radio shows during the last week or maybe 2.
So many questions get asked that have already been answered in the radio shows - it’s a really good idea to make time to listen to all the shows; if you can’t make them live, they are all archived… and they’re sooooo uplifting, it’s well worth your time.
Yes creating an independent stand-alone Internet using ham radio equipment instead of paying existing paradigm people fiat paper since that is what they demand would have been a lot better idea even though starting it up would have taken another five years or so and everyone would need to learn to solder a little bit, but go figure that is just my eternal patience speaking like “what’s the rush?”, and I enjoy soldering stuff a lot more than I ever enjoyed reading some new gizmo user manual but guess you sort of need to try it first or just pay a buck per month as if that really mattered much even for a “homeless” guy like me that’s less than a cup of coffee, you know?
You might have missed a point here Sine Metu… All corporations are foreclosed upon and all of these assets are NOW, assets that ‘The People’ own. In law, the ‘existing paradigm’ no longer exists. WE The People now OWN the internet. It’s OURS, just as the internet inventor intended. There’s no need to wait for 5 years to construct a new ‘building’ Sine Metu, when you’ve just written into law that the existing building has been returned to its rightful owners !! : )
You believe that squiggly lines on papers keep the rain off your shoulders at night, too, right Bronny? I am the dead last person you want to discuss law and order with, trust me. If you or anyone else would like to get serious about a new exchange system design/test/implementation that will run concurrent with existing PTW dollar systems yet still wholly abandon gold/dollars/euro/etc as well as being wholly backed by something realistic rather than a CPU cycle or a quantum particle then meet me on opptbook to discuss. Otherwise, basically, waiting for some as of yet unwritten system that allows the world to owe me for a living while applauding encrypted transparency yet OWNING military/police guarded infrastructure without a shot fired then begging for the old dollar again to help BZ Riger stay off the street is a waste of my time. This is a great gang of consumer/customers here and AK and D are a great sales pitch team, but laws without teeth are as good as a knife in a gunfight and systems without development teams are as good as toilet paper commercials on Tee Vee when you are behind a bush 100 yards from a highway listening to all the cars zooming by with people that only care about themselves, ya know?
I’ll buy you a cup of coffee any day, Sine ;D
Awwww Higgs ma, but old sine been reselling cigarettes in he olde barter system for past month or so and doing just fine teaching street folk about how all you homed folk are finally waking up with oppt. Etc. time is money so a us rich folk in the street applaud when you All loosen your schedules enough to breath like folk ought to do
. . Pardon this one finner keyboard spell checking bandit please lol
YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, exactly. What is meant by this? What is Project 13? What´s the point of this ‘membership’? Why a ‘set price’? Why a price at all? This seems odd to me. The world’s governments, corporations and banks are foreclosed upon, and thus all their currencies are also invalid.
And now that all the world’s wealth is supposedly equally distributed between all the world’s people, what’s the point of charging anyone for anything anymore? We’re all equal for G^#*s sake!
Anything that is not voluntary payment and given freely is to me only a continuation of the system we’re already in. Stop trading and putting a price on things. This is the mindset that brought the insane system on in the first place. Don’t start it again!
Give! Share! Receive! Freely! No Prices. Infinite Value. THIS is the new system and mindset.
Harald Think transition… Also, there is a very good explanation of why this is so on one of the Collective Imagination radio shows. I really recommend that you listen to the past shows and all you questions will be answered. Here is a link https://i-uv.com/media/radio-shows/the-collective-imagination/
Thank you Trish, I’ll see what I have time for. I would have been nice, though if they could put more info in writing on this page, so you don’t have to listen through hours of radio to get it….
Agreed, Well said. I am very surprised at the way this is developing…feels super vague, and kinda weird.
The interviews lay the groundwork for much of what doesn’t make sense. Also it helps to hear real people and their voices so you know it’s not acting. People can tell when there is acting going on. I can at least. These folks didn’t seem as though they were acting to me. All of us very well could be wrong, but we’ll only know on Saturday what the next thing is going to be.
Right he is… It really feels strange about the monthly fee. In addition Microsoft Software also does not seem fit the “freedom” thought. Keep to web standards (I know, security is an issue here and its harder to maintain) and everybody on the world is able to help everyone … even people in i.e. not so advanced africa running cheap Ubuntu empowered PC’s. I think many people (including me) are kind of discouraged here…
Android and open source versions of the software are going to be released in a bit because the vast majority of folks don’t use those systems. They’re going to do the GPL’d stuff and android soon. The main focus is getting it released to as many people as possible as quick as possible.
Give value for value in the system that is, this will facilitate the transition to sanity for hu-manity.
Think transition and honour the input of the trustees who have not as yet asked for any reward for service delivered.
I am on a benefit and pretty much living day to day with a decided backward dis-empowered feeling. I will find $12 for the year and after that small contribution I doubt this will be required again.
I think you are missing the point. This ‘exchange of energy’ is what has caused the havoc we are seeing in the world today. That someone think someone else are justified to more than others, just because they have done something specific or are in a specific ‘position’. It is ok that you think that and want to honor him. But he should not force people to honor him by putting an arbitrary price on the ‘product’. This price setting is what is ruining the world today, creating corruption, wars, poverty and huge inequalities.
When they already have invested countless hours of love and light, they should keep investing love and light and Trust the people to Give back. Not DEMAND. If we want a truly free world, we should do what we want and share it for free, and Trust people to share back IF THEY WANT TO. Free giving and receiving is the only thing that can secure a just world without poverty, corruption and war.
He, and we who are in this process should be aware of this. This is the new consciousness that we need to embrace to really get a new world. Unless we become aware of this ‘Economy of Trust’, we will only fall back into the same patterns of greed and corruption.
What Caleb and the others can do, is to open up for donations, without pressure. As long as they open up for this, without greed, but with an honest presentation of what they have done and what are their objectives, they will get what they need and deserve. This is what is Open Source, Non-Profit, Volunteer. Unless they do this, the OPPT is nothing more than yet another business idea.
Then don’t participate…nobody is forcing you to believe…it bothers me when people complain but they themselves have no Solutions
how do u know these ppl have no other solutuions…like it’s either i uv proj 13 crap, or the old…that bothers me
Ich finde, viele haben hier mit Ihren Fragen und Bedenken nicht ganz unrecht. Wir sollten nach Möglichkeiten suchen, das Programm für alle zugänglich zu machen. Nicht nur für eine ausgesuchte “Elite”.
Hi Harald. Have you actually read the OPPT stuff yet? Or listened to any radio shows? It concerns me when you refer to “he” when you talk about the OPPT trustees. If you had listened to or read about the OPPT, you’d know already that one of the key trustees was a woman. How could you have missed that Harald ?? You can blame that English is your second language, but this is the only place in your many letters that you have made the error of mis-assigning a personal pro-noun :-/
In regard to being asked for “Payment for Services Rendered”: Harald, We’re NOT “there” yet. We still live in a “mixed model” paradigm. In the passing-out paradigm, you pay rent for the building to run your business out of, you pay wages to the people who are processing/ verifying all the data coming in, because they also need to pay rent or mortgage and pay for food to eat, petrol or bus fare to get to the building, and so on. In 5-10 years time, such payments will not be needed for the necessities of life. At the moment, Project XIII will run with the usual “overheads”,
A lot of time has already been given freely the by programmers to set up Project XIII. This is not a new project Harald. People have been working on this Project for the better part of a year… since it became public that Facebook was “harvesting” our information to on-sell to corporate interests. I am VERY HAPPY to pay a measly ‘buck a month’ in gratitude for all the hard work of The People involved in developing Project XIII, for the building, the personal, the power bill, the water bill, for the tea, coffee and snacks, for the fax machine, the photocopier, the toilet paper…. Come on Harald. Get a grip man !! I love your idealism…. or have you never had to pay for the necessities of life for yourself ever before ?? It’s shocking to see that your ‘idealism’ is firmly rooted in how much you can get out of the deal… not how much you can give back. I’d love to see your next letter talk about the “good works” you intend on performing to help the Earth and her Children heal… instead of moaning and complaining about a dollar !! Good grief !! : (
Bronny
I agree with you. It does not make any difference to ask for money, to take and give money as value or to give light and honor as value or both! When you are IN LOVE, it does not make any differnce! LOVE is LOVE and when it is more easy and more helpfull to give or take some money, why not!? As long as we seperate to ONE from the OTHER we create polarity! Wenn wir das eine verurteilen und nur das andere akzeptieren spalten wir und trennen wir was eigentlich EINS IST. Es einfach vollkommen gleich-gültig ob Caleb Geld will für seine Leistung oder nicht. es ist das eine seine Entscheidung und sein freier Wille und das andere auch. An uns liegt es seinen FREIEN WILLEN zu respektieren, sonst nichts. Und es ist die Entscheidung von jedem einzelnen Menschen ob er oder sie in Projekt Xiii einsteigen will oder nicht, dafür Geld geben will oder nicht. As long as we dont respect the will of somebody, like Caleb who asked us to give him 1 US-Dollar per month, or 1 Euro ………. our own FREE WILL will not have the power of LOVE we would need to make the world a litle bit better. With light and love, Karin (sorry for my english)
Hi Harald. Brian’s 6 May blog had some good explanations of things you’re asking here. I add an except or two here:
What? Why?
1. A personal value resource worth 10 Billion of any existing currency they choose to use
2. A personal iPage that consists of:
* An alternative to Facebook, but without any monitoring or data-harvesting
* A facility to create our own webpage [I think]
* An equivalent to eBay, or any other similar trading platform
* An equivalent to Amazon, or any other similar market stall
* An equivalent to Skype
* An online banking facility, which contains the 10 Billion
“… if we are to think about the implications of this new technology, it will actually have the effect of ERADICATING the need for money, so the 10 Billion will very quickly become redundant. In short, this new technology, and this novel, infinitely-abundant iPage, are here at this auspicious time in the evolution of the Human Species, to offer a practical / technical interregnum that will serve the purpose of enabling the smooth transition from the five-sensory, limited Human, to a fully-functional, spiritual Human….. and the eventual onset of our own, intrinsic, Organic Technology.”
- Simon Palmer
http://briankellysblog.blogspot.co.nz/2013/05/understanding-i-uv-exchange-system.html
Is there an Android Application planned? The majority of smartphones use this OS, 75%.
RE: Android platform
Dennis, above your comments, this has also been asked, and as I have read this far, with the help of some answers, it sounds as though the Android platform has possibly 40 different versions, and will take more time to create compatibility for this operating systems.
I personally use Android phone, and Linux Ubuntu OS on hard drive because the idea of Open Source Software, as an alternative to the For Profit Operating Systems like Microsoft and Apple, was one more way I could take the cog out of the runaway wheel, or to take business out of the hands of those who corrupt it.
All of this is quite exciting, and I enjoyed a video of the introduction on youtube channel ObiWanKabuki.
Also I found the conversation with Chris Hales and Julian Wells posted on the 5d media network show “The Transitioning” just posted June 1 to be very inspirational for a teaching tool I am working on.
Much love and blessings upon each ONE
Yes!! Can’t wait!
Good News for a change! Deep gratitude to Caleb and crew. I can’t wait to be untrackable, Freedom!
GREAT work Caleb and team, AND the i-uv site team. Thanks to Caleb and team for getting this platform ready to launch and to the i-uv site team for keeping us updated with the time frames.
One suggestion to all who are asking questions - why not just sit and let it all unfold, let it all happen. Sometimes the unknown is better and can turn into more than you even expected. As to grumbling about one dollar per month during the bridge period, goodness, it’s not much to ask. I, for one, am willing, as suggested on one of the radio shows, to pay for a few others who literally can’t afford the $12 per year subscription. Let’s be grateful for everything that is being done - it is all for our greater good and the way it is unfolding is for good reason.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU DO!
Peace n love to all. <3
Hear hear, Geri!
Thanks, Geri. Not only for this comment, but also for your calls on the radio shows
And thanks back to you Dee and for all that you do.
While I’m at it - thanks to all humanity - we are all in this together and we will all perceive it differently, but at the end of the day, know that all is well. Peace n love to all. <3
Why is the money needed ? Have you thought about how much 1$ per month per person could add up to ? Haven’t the crew accessed their own ‘universal value’ yet ? I would like an explanation as to why tens of thousands, even millions of dollars per month are necessary for this at this point.
I agree that paying for another to access Project XIII is a good thing to do, but I’m going to be using discretion regarding who I pay for. Some folks are going to not understand what’s going on and are going to pay right back into the slavery system, empowering it further. I think it’s my responsibility to pay for folks who are cued in to what’s happening regarding this stuff.
We shall see, though! Fingers crossed and sending love to the IT crew.
I don’t have an iPad, an iPhone or a smartphone of any sort. I have a computer, obviously, but it has an older operating system (you really should specify the system requirements forSilverlight) and an upgrade won’t be happening until we can buy a more up to date machine that can handle the upgraded software. This will not happen until some sort of “prosperity fund” (which I don’t expect to receive any benefit from) is distributed or I can access my value… which I can’t do without Project 13 and the UV ixchange. And I can’t get the necessary hardware and software until I can access my value. And I can’t access my value without the hardware/software….
What this boils down to is that you can’t use the “free” software if you don’t have the compatible hardware and software which are NOT free and internet access which is also NOT free. With the smartphone, you need a smartphone if you don’t have one and an access plan both of which are NOT free. In short, it costs good, old fiat money to get what you need to access your “value.” Otherwise your “value” is worthless and useless in real world terms.
I hope that you members of the “New Elite” have fun spending your value and at some point remember to throw some crumbs to us “have nots” so we can have a taste of the Golden Age you will be wallowing in. In the meantime, I’ll continue to do what is necessary to keep my family’s heads above water with fiat money.
Wandering Fire, you make a good point. Please continue to make it so that those of us who are already set up can create a fund that you can easily access to get the things you need.
If anyone has a suggestion about how to set up such a fund please comment here so we can help make it happen.
I am apalled at the comment of ” The new elite ” above. This is short sighted and un-called for.
Please consider that the efforts to date have been volunteered by some truly amazing people for the benefit of all.
Yes, It’s not ideal that not everyone can instantly access Project 13 ( From my very limited understanding ) however I feel that the expectanies of people to be able to gain access to their ” Value ” and utilise these tools given freely to us is an absolute privelege.
Also bear in mind that Project 13 is a platform only, a vehicle of which The One People will have access to benefit all in a secure environment off which we will all be independantly accountable for our actions.
I for one am in absolute gratitude of the efforts of the former Trustees and for all that are BEing and DOing.
If nothing was to come from all this other than the collective enlightenment of our real ” value ” and for mobilising many of us into groups and action against the corrupt debt slavery system then for that I am eternally grateful.
Patience people, patience.. In time all will come to bear the fruits of all our labour.
Well said Jason, indeed everyone involved is giving their time and love for humanity to create all of this and guide us through this transition. There are no elite here, just loving souls doing their part to heal humanity. I feel that there is no place for complaints, let us all show appreciation that we have got this far, and visualize everything working out perfectly. Remember everyone, all is well = everything always works out in perfect order. Peace n love to all. <3
Yes, GIVING is the clue here. They have been GIVING all along. So, why are they now suddenly DEMANDING money? This strategy is what online businesses have been following for eons. First, lure in gullible people to a service they think they need, and then, when they are hooked, demand a price.
If Caleb and the rest are REALLY helping humanity, they, of all people, should continue in the tracks they have been all along. Continue to Give and never demand anything back, but rather give people the opportunity to Give back. Without pressure, that is.
It’s not that 12 dollars pr. year is a lot of money, that is not the case. It is the mindset behind it. If we continue in this mindset with trading, buying and selling, instead of freely giving, sharing and receiving, we will only head back towards more greed, wars, corruption and poverty.
Besides, it is not money that is needed to improve this world, it is the resources, and the right knowledge and mindset to use them properly. We CAN create a just world that works for everyone, but we have to be aware that we have to abandon the mindset of paper ownership, money and trading to ever get there.
Harald, please take the time to do some research. The people that have created this have taken an abundance of time to put all this in place for us and it seems like little to expect that you listen to the talk shows that they have also taken the time to produce to keep us informed of what is happening. Last night on The Collective Imagination radio talk show they talked for two hours plus just answering questions and that was until 3:30am their time and they were exhausted - but they still had the kindness and willingness to make sure that ALL people’s questions were answered. For me it is becoming tiresome that you continue to huff and puff about how bad they are when you have not taken the care to get yourself fully informed about what they are doing and why…
Trish, I am sorry you take it that way. I have nothing against them, you or anyone else. We are all free to do whatever we want, as long as we don’t hurt anyone else. And I honor them for having taken the steps to do what they have done. It is truly a huge effort that I am very grateful for. I have done a lot of research, but unfortunately I haven’t had the time to listen to days worth of audio recordings, which frankly contain a lot of fluff and very little factual info.
I am merely trying to get you to see a new possibility for Humanity that many in here doesn’t seem to see. It might be wrong to take this discussion here, under this post, but at least, I seem to have your attention.
It is about understanding where we are at this pivotal point in time. If the world’s governments De Jure and eventually De Facto are all foreclosed upon, together with banks and corporations, there are no borders anymore, and effectively - no national currencies.
With this basis, we can start to create a whole new world. A world that works for everyone. A world without poverty, corruption, war and financial crises. A world without money and paper ownership. Actually, if what the OPPT has done becomes De Facto, this is what we will have. There will be no national currencies, and no paper ownership, no borders, no countries.
What shall we do with this? Shall we behave like greedy vultures waiting for ‘them’ to create some kind of ‘tool’ where we can ‘access our wealth’, so that we can run out on a shopping spree? Sure, if whatever tool that they create will create money that will be accepted by merchants around the world, use it. But use it to create a better world for all, and to eventually abandon money, which have contributed to create the most havoc this planet has ever seen.
Now is the time to work together. To collaborate, not compete. We CAN create an abundant and joyful world for absolutely everyone. Not just 3%.
Have you heard about The Venus Project? They have some interesting plans that could truly transform this world if put in place. http://www.thevenusproject.com/
Don’t take me wrong everyone. I am just trying to bring in a new perspective here.
I am all for the esoteric stuff as well. We are all immortal souls. We are all free.
I rest my case now.
Harold, thank you for clarifying your position. I’m in agreement with you on many of your points about making this a healthy and sane planet for everyone. I have learned that not all people have the viewpoint of helping others. Some will need to be led out of the old paradigm and into the new. Those who benefited most from the old system are hanging onto it hard - but we only need 10% of the population to be with us for the rest to quietly follow along. I think that it will be very important to have a One People’s group that contacts opinion leaders such as philosophers and artists and yes, the Zeitgeist and Venus Project followers, the political leaders that really care about the people, etc. and educate them about what has happened so they may help get the word out quickly to the whole population. Also, I’ve been curious about how to get access to the population that follows main stream media. Maybe I can buy CNN for $5 billion! There would certainly be some program changes if I did!
Harald,
Let me give you an example. Facebook is free.. But ( and its a big but ).. How’s all that freeness working out for us all… Energy Harvesting the masses from our data, flash ads to pay for the space, it may certainly be free to use but there is nothing free about it’s functionality or true purpose.
The perception of Facebook is that it is free to use as you will but couldn’t be further from the truth. It is moderated, it is data-mined, your habits, likes, relationships and info is all scanned, read and used against you.. Far from a truly free system….
I for one would rather pay a nominal fee, for a platform that it is free for me to use as I intend completely and allow me to freely interact with all other beings on my or our own agreed terms, and not those of a corrupt harvesting system.
The nominal charge is a token for most westerners, I for one will be looking at setting up a business of which a share of profits made will be used to fund access points for the less fortunate.. So that they too can have access to Project 13.
I am sure the token charge for membership is likely to be used to advance the platform itself and levels of access.
The above is my opinion only and if wrong I will stand corrected however as per my previous post, nothing happens immediately, hence why we are in The Transitioning Period..
Man, I have been very much in support of all of this, especially the courtesy notices. However, everyone using the same language like ‘absolute gratitude’,the ‘one people’ (over and over) …and being ‘appalled’ by people’s understandable questioning, is beginning to sound very cult-like. I don’t blindly follow anyone, and certainly not for a dangling carrot, or out of fear of agitating the group.
Hear hear!
Kaisa, after centuries of living with the terminology of slavery we are learning the language of Peace and Plenty for all. It takes a while to get used to a new language. But, like you, I struggled with the new terms at first and was often very annoyed by it. We will get through this. I for one cannot wait till we no longer hear the twisted language of those that run the slavery system, and I can’t wait till we no longer feel their oppression in our culture.
Your reaction is not unexpected and it’s the reason I seldom associate with most Lightworkers. Since Project 13 and the UV ixchange was announced, the general reaction could best be compared to a child being turned loose in Toys R Us with an unlimited gift card. “When is it coming?” “How to I get mine?” and other remarks of that sort. Only a few have asked “How is this going to work?” and I haven’t seen even a perfunctory discussion about how the people who need it most desperately are going to be included. My remark about the “New Elite” was meant to be a slap in the face — a reminder of how it will look to a lot of people who see a select few with everything they could possibly want while they are struggling and sometimes failing to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table. Try telling a family living under a bridge that “everything is in perfect divine order” and see what response you get.
More attention needs to be paid on how we’re going to get this to the people who need it most — those who are homeless or nearly so. A way needs to be found for “value” to be used outside the ixchange system until everyone on the planet is on board. (Something similar to a debit card comes to mind if it could be made secure against theft if lost or stolen.)
We need to decide what to do about those who are incompetent to handle their value for whatever reason.
We need to decide how to handle the addicts and alcoholics who, not really realizing what they have, will trade their access devices for their next fix or their next drink. Granted, there will be cures/treatments for whatever physical or mental conditions that would make someone incapable of being responsible for themselves but since no one has given us a firm time frame for when that will be, we need to have plans in place to bridge the gap between now and then.
We need to know how we’re going to get access to the impoverished in the so-called Third World, how we’re going to teach them what they have, how to use it and keep it from being stolen by those who are still in duality and believe that in order to “have” they have to “take” and kill people in the process.
We’re going to need educational materials in every possible format, NOT just YouTube videos and in every language and for every possible literacy level, including complete illiteracy.
And this list barely scratches the surface of what needs to be done. Now, is ANYONE thinking/working on any of these problems? Hopeful comments of “the community will help” doesn’t cut it. “The community” will need organization or at least direction, at least at first, for its efforts to be effective and efficient.
Wandering Fire, some of us have discussed on various forums how to set up groups using the Project XIII platform. Caleb stated that he will take our suggestions starting with the most requested and will work his way down to provide them. My first suggestion was that those of us who can provide a fund from which those of us who have not got the resources can draw till they are set up enough to replenish the fund with their own value. I don’t have a problem with people using that fund to provide food and shelter and health care for themselves as their first priority, or to purchase the electronic equipment they need to gain access to their own value.
Some have suggested groups that clean up the Earth’s water supplies, some to provide quickly for the homeless, others would create a new justice system. Nuclear waste cleanup and clean energy groups will also form. The list seems endless but it will certainly exciting to be in the vanguard of those creating a new social design that involves a future worth living for those that follow us. Whatever we want to create is possible. And I for one feel honored to be part of the group of people making this happen.
I am in the same position an old mac who’s processor won’t accept the new flash players, or skype, or certain apps, my laptop is 12 years old. I have a basic phone no apps. This morning it occurred to me, perhaps if some of the people who have access to their value maybe they can buy us a phone and once we get into our accounts we can then pay them back. What do you say people? <3 Love and generousity for those hit hard by the economy? I have been BEing and DOing on my own path for years I am an artist activist, shaman.
I am for this. I have access to a lot of “high tech” tools. So I plan on spreading the Love to whoever asks (within my ethical boundaries of course). Because if they are asking for help through the UV xchange they are apparently in alignment with it. Let’s do it!
On one of the recent shows a question similar to yours came up in the chatroom. A woman said her elderly mother had no access to a computer, so how could she access her value. Heather’s response was something like, I’m sure there will be people who will help out with these situations. This community will be helping each other, and that’s what’s so great about it.
Wandering Fire,
Thank you for sharing a hard reality that many experience.
Your words fall and I feel compassion.
From this compassion, I offer a viable solution.
Many shelters, community action programs, and recyclers are taking old phones and redistributing.
Perhaps its time for a technology exchange.
You have let all of us know what you need.
Now each one can come to find the way to provide.
The slavery we have each endured is finally over, yet many of us have just kept our heads above the surface.
We can continue forward now, and when we look back, we can say something like, I am glad that is behind me.
Glad to meet you upon this path, and to offer an expanded solution to the dilemma.
You are in our prayers, you are our heroes of the eternal essence embodied.
LuvINu
Could you please elaborate on the following instruction:
“Once you have the device, you’ll need to download the Project 13 software from your device application store.”
Where to go exactly, to download Project 13? So far, have not been able to determine how to access “device application store” (okay, I’m NOT computer savvy, right?), BUT so far all dead ends… A little help? (Few more details anyway…) Merci!!!!
It’s not up yet, Lisi. When the launch is announced, you will get instructions on where to go, and how to download.
As a former Apple Software Developer I can understand the need to get some manner of compensation for the job of programming computers and creating sophisticated software. People have to eat and sleep and programmers don’t get much of the latter. This is not an easy task and the people behind it deserve something for their efforts. That said, let’s see 87% of 7 billion people at $1 each is $6.09 billion dollars. I was never able to make anything close to that writing software. How will that $1 monthly fee be paid. I only have Amex. I guessing they won’t be taking credit cards. Not really complaining here just making a point. As for those having to upgrade their computer systems that will be a small price to pay for the alleged returns as we don’t really know quite exactly what this is all about yet or exactly what it will do for us and others until we see the final project in action. Helping others with that $1 dollar may be in the works.. If you can’t read then the directions to the treasure are worthless. Pretty soon everyone will be able to afford the best iMac on the planet. then you won’t have computer issues any longer. Yes, they are a very big company to but at least they are not supplying deadly vaccines to children in Africa like Bill Gates is.
Overall my hat’s off to the the entire development team as I know full well the roadblocks that programmers can run into and the mental effort it takes to get everything working perfectly and bug free if that is even possible. Version 1.1 will be out very shortly after the launch date. Mark my words.
Most grateful to the entire development team. They still have a lot of work ahead of them and they need our support.
Thank you for this very useful comment
Here, here! Kudos to Caleb, Mark & team. x
I am personally happy to pay a dollar…I would pay far more for all that you have done and will continue to do for our freedom….so very grateful!!!!
Hi All, these are very exciting times and am very grateful, just wondering if we need to submit an Oath and Bond for Public Servant to the One People before we are able to access our full value, i am quite happy to do this , but would require access to my full value b4 i can help. thanks in advance.
Alex Kain
Hi Alex,
As the foreclosures have happened, so has the One Peoples Public Trust been foreclosed. All the documents are there, and available as tools of claiming your eternal value. Yet the trust, is no longer a viable entity of commerce.
SO now, each ONE, you, me, we, they, all, are on equal exchange, and Project XIII is the tech platform for this launch.
That said, the exchange can only be successful with education for the masses.
Please watch my website this week as I complete the first phase of my presentation for the ONE People, which I will freely offer so that the project of educating can move forward and coalesce with cocreators.
LuvInU
I thought the whole process of the OPPT was getting rid of the current fiat money system. But you are requiring a monthly subscription fee using the “obsolete” fiat currency. Also what about those in parts of Africa, Asia, South America and other 3rd world countries who don’t have the luxury of owing a iPhone, Smart phone or even a computer. How are they to access their value? Please explain.
Remember that Rome wasn’t built in a day - it takes time to change over - this is a bridge between where we are now and where we want to be! <3
And the elites get their’s first because they are already advantaged with iPhones, Smartphones and computers? Why not give it to the 3rd world countries first and let us elites take a back seat?
Hi Teresa. I found this article on direct donations to the poor of Kenya to be very interesting; here is a quote “GiveDirectly’s work is stunningly simple: accept donations from everyday people; identify impoverished households in Kenya; and then transfer money to household members’ cell phones via text message using the mobile phone payment system M-Pesa. The recipients can spend the money in any way they like. That’s right - the recipients can spend the money for any good without any oversight. GiveDirectly monitors the ways families use transfers and the efficacy of their choices, but it does not constrain their activity or impose conditions.
Unconditional cash transfers are not a GiveDirectly innovation - governments and large NGOs like Oxfam have used them for years, usually opting for conditional transfers in which recipients must take specific actions in order to “earn” the money. But GiveDirectly - founded in 2008 by Paul Niehaus, Michael Faye, Rohit Wanchoo, and Jeremy Shapiro - is the first nonprofit to be solely dedicating to using unconditional cash transfers for individual donations.
Because there are no extraneous steps - a feat made possible by M-Pesa’s groundbreaking technology - at least $0.90 of every dollar donated to GiveDirectly goes to a family in Kenya.” http://www.givedirectly.org/chris.php
I think we can do this better and cheaper!
Words cant explain my graditude! Thank everyone one of you paying your energy to the change of the world for the better! Try not to be stuck in a state of questioning, ones you already know the answer to, it does not benefit you. It has definitely been a challenge for me but WE CAN DO ANYTHING remember? Center yourself in your heart. I love all of you
One day Caleb, you’ll look back on this moment and say to yourself” I changed the world!”
As did Heather and Lisa, AK and all the rest of us.
Now we move forward-absent limits-with your beautiful gift.
There are no words to express my gratitude as well…
Shine On!
Thank YOU!
Thank you Caleb. When a dream is about to come true, the first reaction is disbelief, followed by stunned amazement, then total joy and a deep emotional gratitude. I see all those in the comments here and when a lot of people go on a journey, some get there before others. However, the most important thing to remember is that we are ALL on the journey and we’ll ALL get there in the end. Much love and respect to you all for even contemplating such a remarkable enterprise.
Gratitude !! but can someone please explain or throw some light on how exactly access to value is to be achieved through the I uv exchange ? Somebody must know or all this would not be happening right? because until this data is available I for one am sitting on the preverbial fence, do we need permission or special codes ? please forgive my total ignorance but can someone please explain in 3d where and how such funds are available, yes ive heard of the collateral accounts but have no idea what they are, come on guys spill the beans, transparency will set us free right ?!. Namaste. S
It’s all Quite fascinating, and exciting Looking forward to the final product so fingers crossed and good luck
Thx for the tip, Kestrela! Thought it was just me… Is this supercalafragalistic… or what? You folks truly rock around the clock!!!!!
We must suspect that there is’ something rotten in denmark ?
from now on the only price they are willing to pay is the gratitude … take it or leave it … anyone who has thought about the money needs to understand this. Nothing penny on principle. In peace and harmony
Every device that will initially run project 13 runs on software/hardware produced by two companies; companies that are among the worst in terms of freedom and deeply embedded in the slavery system. Think on that for a minute or two.
The Free Software Foundation, the Open Source community and many other creators of software are light years closer to the freedom you seek and have for many years been producing software that is transparent, reliable and secure, and at low or zero cost.
I use Linux because it was born in freedom and remains so.
I’m all for freedom. That is why I refuse to buy a Microsoft or Apple product & put more money in their coffers.
Maybe a team to port this to the Linux environment? Philosophy of OPEN SOURCE is OPEN to SOURCE this is not of doubt. however most slaves dont know it and the bulk of human cyber activity happens on those 2 platforms WITH THE MOBILE ENVIRONMENT FAST shifting that dynamic to android with all the Google (and others) harvesting tools.
A transformation of the=is nature takes time and determination along with the HEART to hold this.
Absolute gratitude for all the BE-ing and DO-ing inspired by heart pre sent.
Blessed Be our awakening Family.
Linux had a Silverlight-type program, called Moonlight. But it wasn’t working right, and they abandoned the Moonlight project last year. So, it sounds like Linux compatibility is going to be quite a ways away.
I am incredibly impressed by all the behind-the-scenes work that has been going on. The Absolute-Data website, this website, Project XIII ………… wow, these guys and gals have been working day and night to get this off the ground.
When you think the OPPT press release was back in early February, less than 4 months ago …… WOW!! Exceptional DOing …. mind-blowing.
I for one will have to use my computer until the Android app comes online, but hey, we are only talking another few weeks ….. this is incredibly amazing stuff, folks.
As for the 1 unit of currency ….. think about it …. at this moment of now the ‘existing’ currency is still fiat. Yes, this is going, so why not send it somewhere that it can be used for an exceptional purpose …. 12 units per year folks. Not sheep stations ;D …………… and I’m sure eventually, as currency transitions to what it truthfully is, Project XIII may be 1 unit of our Value.The best investment of a $1 a month that I have ever seen!!
BE and DO in the Light, my brothers and sisters ….. we are now in the age of KNOWING.
Hugs to All ♥ G ♥
Hey Mamma G!
Thanks for your Heart Centered expression, love to feel that vibe!
I wish to expand on your comment: “As for the 1 unit of currency ….. think about it …. at this moment of now the ‘existing’ currency is still fiat. Yes, this is going, so why not send it somewhere that it can be used for an exceptional purpose …. ”
I am going to relate with words Julien Wells used on “The Transitioning” June 1 episode.
I am paraphrasing here: That dollar bill has a life, when you use it, it carries with it the exchanges prior to your handling, and your use of it, imprints your energy, then goes out into the world and continues its life. your energy is now connected with that dollar.
So I have been working with this type of exchange for a few years, with everything. The food I ate, the places I go, the people I meet, the earth connections, the expressions, everything, every experience is an opportunity to spread intention.
LuvINu
♥ ♥ A beautiful way of BEing, Sheglidesby ♥ ♥
Sure, pay Caleb or whoever you want. But do it voluntarily.
Caleb and everyone: Now that we have gotten so far in our mindset, in dismantling the old power structures of paper ownership and money, in proclaiming ourselves free, in establishing equality for all beings;
Don’t let old fear of lack run this system. Give it out freely and trust people to give back what they can, rather than putting a rather diffuse price on it. Freely Give. Freely Receive. Trust in each other and the Creator. This is the only way we can abolish all corruption and make sure it never returns.
Sure, most places we still have to pay for our food and stuff in old style currencies. This doesn’t mean we cannot start to fully Trust Each Other, the Creator, the Universe, Nature and the new System, whatever that is.
FREELY GIVE. FREELY RECEIVE. This is Nature’s way. There are no set ‘prices’ in Nature.
If this new ‘system’ will only work as a transition to a global resource based moneyless gift economy, it can be good. If it is the beginning of a new ‘global currency’ (which it seems like), count me out. Money and trading is an unnecessary illusion. We are all equal.
Sure, the rest of the world are far from awakened, and most people demand money in return for goods and services. Still, let us become aware that money and trading is obsolete, and focus with conscious awareness towards that, so that any intermediate system will be only that; intermediate.
Eventually, we will have a FREE world, where we DO and BE out of our own free will, without any coercion, money, trading or or reciprocal exchange.
Sure, I am aware that there’s an exchange going on in nature all the time. But it is not reciprocal. It is not like the bird pay the tree for eating it’s fruit. But the bird drops it’s feces somewhere else, and thus bringing nutrients back to the soil. It also does many other things that makes up it’s role in the whole.
This is the kind of network cycle of giving, sharing, taking and receiving freely we can have among us humans as well. We do what we do, and in the whole we fill out our role. No need for a reciprocal exchange. We exchange with the whole, and the whole exchanges with us.
Thank you Harald, well said and so true
Everything is pre-paid by the being who creates. Nature does not require compensation. Once the creation comes into existence, it is free for all to use and enjoy. The energy expended in the extraction of raw materials and production of a product cannot and need not be “replaced”. There is always infinitely more energy available to all. This is not a zero-sum world. Caleb and his team do not need to be compensated for their creative efforts.
All opinions are valid, This will be that we move beyond the money when HEART KNOWS it is infinite and embodied of the infinite value of BE-ing pre-sent.
Blessings to All ONES.
Yipee and yahooey! Thanks does not seem to cut it, but thankyou all ever so much for your continued contribution, your energy and light and love in BEing and Doing all that you do for all of humanity. In Gratitude, may you be blessed beyond worldly imagination. You guys rock! Namaste <3 <3
I just have a basic windows computer with windows 8. Will this work on my computer?
Pam, you can check really easily. Click your start menu, open “All Programs”, scroll down to the “M”, under Microsoft, look to see if you have “Microsoft Silverlight”. I’m pretty sure it is an installed component in Windows 8. If you don’t have it, you can go to the Windows website and download it. I have Windows XP, so I checked, and was quite surprised to find that it was already installed. It must have come in one of the automatic updates.
Thank you for answering the question I had. Your info is greatly appreciated.
Love and light,
Charlotte
Thank you ALL of you for all that you are BEING, DOING, you are amazing!!!! I love you all!!!
What is project 13?
Hi Robert,
Project 13 is a platform where the UV exchange will reside. It’s a secure area where folks can do and be on on the web without being harvested for energy and data. It’s going live on Saturday. The download is free but the cost is one dollar a month. It’s worth far more than that too. After all the dollar is in collapse and project 13 is going to be part of the new system.
There already is a system like that, which is completely open source and FREE. It is called Diaspora. https://joindiaspora.com/
Yes, but Calib has informed us that this project is specifically for us and will be designed for our use by our requests. Thus if more of us request one function more often than another that is what will be worked on first. He also explained that the open source projects often have many designers working on similar applications and there my be long delays in our access to them because they have to plow through ALL the applications of that design to get one workable app. The Project XIII will eliminate the delay. Caleb has been paying people from his own funds to get his project operational in a timely fashion. I hope you use Diaspora. I for one will be happy to use a platform that is specifically for this community of people that want to cooperate to quickly bring the world to a place where there is help, hope and harmony but without the random distractions of a general forum thrown into the mix.
Harald,
You are free to go over to Diaspora and enjoy your value!
Scott,
That is not how I understand it. Project 13 is just an optional tool that will allow you at some point to access the UV Ixchange. They are two very separate things. Project 13 will not be the ONLY way to access the UV Ixchnge or any of your value for that matter.
that’s what I understood too, that Project XIII and the UV will be separate .
It’s my understanding like Scot that project XIII is the platform and that the UV iexchange will be an application that runs on that platform. Project XIII will allow us the privacy and safety to access our value and to be able to use that value to exchange for anything that we may need. I’ve heard that we will initially want to take some value and place it in a bank based on your terms and conditions you make with that said bank to have access to a debit card so that you can purchase your gas, groceries etc. There will be other applications added to replace facebook, amazon etc. It will still work with existing applications such as amazon or aa.com until they are replaced. It is suggested that whenever and wherever possible we take the opportunity to talk to existing vendors and show them their value and show them how they too can be set up to do value exchanges with our UV iexchange via our private and secure platform (Project XIII) thus taking another step in moving away from the slavery system.
Well, thanks for all the opinions about Project XIII, but I’m still clear as mud as to the implementation. My first question was what does this thing do. Now it progressed to implementation and that is where the mud is. I’m one of those simple people, not simpleminded, but I need step 1, step 2, step3, etc.-you get the picture. It appears that June 1 was a projection date and not “this damned thing will work June 1 carved in stone.” It appears to me that is the point where we are all at?
Thanks to Caleb for his willingness to assist in shifting this paradigm to one that works for all people. I used to be a systems analyst and I am very aware of the intense focus and diligence required to perform the task he has undertaken.
I have heard the pride in his voice when he speaks of the project he is delivering to us. My heart swells with pride to know that someone is willing to do this for all of us. THANK YOU CALEB. It is impossible to value your efforts in fiat currency and I know that $1 is just a symbol of the value that you have committed to deliver. THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!!
Hey, BOB have a great trip. Does anyone know how me and my daughter can sponsor ten people’s $1 a month payment? I hope we don’t have to do it one by one.
Love to you Caleb and team for all of your hard work on this project. I am very excited to get onboard with it, and eventually off Facebook totally. I understand it may take time to get the advantages of this innovative program related to the “sleeping sheeple”, but it has to start somewhere - just as twitter and facebook did. Much love and appreciation to all of you.
Is not Microsoft a foreclosed corporation whose intellectual property is now in the public domain?
It appears so, Doug.
I appreciate all that Caleb and his team have put into getting this up and running.
None of us should pre-judge what it’s going to be like or how it will work until we have had the opportunity to view it for ourselves and had time to take in all that is involved. Please just have a bit more patience and allow Caleb to get it out there. I’m sure he would have taken into consideration many, if not all, of the points that have been raised here, and has been said on the radio shows it will be a base to build on and will evolve as required to meet the needs of the people.
I know we are all curious and have many questions, but it is too early to answer them at the moment until we see the finished product.
What I don’t understand is this: Caleb, Heather and all the other wonderful people that are setting the whole thing up, don’t they get their reward of a 10B USD account too? Why are we talking about a 1 USD contribution/mnth. at all?
Am I missing something here?
Not that I mind giving it, but anyway……….
Roger, Caleb is a business man, I’ve heard nothing mentioned about not been able to run a business, you may start one yourself, who knows? One things for sure, Caleb taking one unit per month shows he is not ripping anyone off. cheers.
The official OPPT/I-UV page states:
“On December 25, 2012, three public trustees disclosed groundbreaking legal documents filed on behalf of THE ONE PEOPLE. From this moment, a grassroots movement was born as the documents swept across the globe like wildfire.”
So how is it that Clayton M Bernard (aka Frasberg, aka Jamaican Rap Singer H20) has Heather and the gang listed in his UCC filings back in January of 2012?
http://www.scribd.com/FRASBERG/documents
If the OPPT UCC filings were valid, which they are not, then Clayton’s filings by the same logic are valid too. Thankfully however they are of course bogus, otherwise he would now own your teeth, hair, fingernails, footprints, space vehicles, your liver, twitter accounts…oh yeah, this guy owns EVERYTHING.. even the OPPT.
Rhonda, can’t you see that $1 from everyone will equate to billions of dollars worldwide for these scammers?
Because it’s a massive fraud and scam that people haven’t woken up to yet….that $7 billion will go to Heather and her Cabal of Jesuit friends…
James Churchill
Unfortunately I do not speak English, but Germanic But if I understand this, it is meant that OPPT scam? Probably a possible scenario of Scientology?
James,
Does it make sense to you that if this thing is a scam, that 7 billion people will actually fall for it? Seems to me that if this project does become that successful, then it probably has value.
I have been addicted to the Internet for years, but I have never joined Facebook or any other social network. I have always understood they were harvesting tools.
Relax, Caleb will not force you to join his project. You don’t have to in order to access your value!
Thanks for holding the contrast James, as you work through your list of conflicts, remember to be grateful for those who held contrast to your knowing.
You and each ONE have Free WIll, so in exercising this, you are perfect.
I do not agree with your sentiment, yet I recognize your value.
Namaste
OMG… WE ARE HERE
THANKS x infinite from everyone on HEART
(And please, excuse the people who are really kinda ”spiting” on you.
There is no words, totally no words to explain this PRESENT MOMENT
that all of us ( humanity ) are entering into NOW. The dream of an
uncomptable number of PURE BEINGS, is about to be FINALLY, HERE.
MERCI.MERCI.MERCI xxx ONE LOVE
For those with questions about the way the Project 13 software is being developed, and why Caleb and crew chose certain apps first, you may find answers by listening to the One People radio show from last week: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thecollectiveimagination/2013/05/21/the-one-people-2021-may-2013
It helped me understand how things are planned going forward. A computer guy named Mark talks a great deal about the project, and he comes from such a heart place I could even stand to listen to computer stuff!
As Caleb said on the oppt radio show: If I have to do something, I will build an empire. Well, go ahead and make him rich. This is the biggest scam, and you will never get access to the 10 bn.
You’ll know how much of a scam it is after project 13 is launched. Until then, you’re literally just making things up and believing them by writing what you are. No one really knows how this is going to work but I can tell you that after a single phone call from Caleb last month, he’s telling the truth about what he went through. As for building an empire, read the terms and conditions he has on the site before you judge. You could be correct. You may be making a big mistake. The way I see it is this. It’s a buck a month. That’s 3.33333 cents a day. Not bad for a secured site where the folks who harvest data from you and tap your energy can’t look.
James Churchill: I do not agree with what you’re saying. I do not agree to this being a scam. These people have invested everything in freeing the rest of us. Heather spent over $1 Million of her own money to get us to the point of December 2012. She lost her own home in the process. Their lives were threatened. The lives of Heather’s children were threatened twice. Heather was arrested and yet they all stood their ground and have asked for nothing from us. No compensation. The money being asked for (the 1 unit of currency per month) I’m sure is to maintain what will have already been built FOR US as well as the expansion that will take place as we each add to it. I realize this is all a matter of perception and contrast, but I just can’t continue to sit back and read the negative things being said such as “the new elites” or that some may be deterred?? or even that they don’t deserve compensation for their time, energy and personal funds. Doesn’t that suggest that some other being other than yourself should devote all of their time and energy to creating, maintaining and adding onto a service that was created for you to be able to SAFELY access your value for nothing in return??? Why? And what it if they decide not to…then what? What if they hadn’t decided to do this at all….then what? You don’t think that perhaps like you…they are tired and would like to just take some time off? They are not the government! They are not wanting to have anything to do with governing any one! They don’t invest energy into a system of judgement. They are people just like me and you who love and know that we are all one!!
Thank you Tonia!
Your heart is heard and loved!
Namaste
I have a 68 old neigbor. Nice lady, widow, totally lost concerning computers or mobile.
I’m going to give her my spare desktop comp. Nothing fancy but it will do to run Project XIII.
I’ll pay for her 12 months of subscription. Or she might herself.
Does not matter to me. I just want to see to that she get access.
That’s how petty little problems with technic and fee get solved.
People are going to DO
lol Harold is funny LOL the embodied essence has gone past your little attempt to change the good energies surrounding the work that is done by Caleb and his team so far….lol there’s absolutely nothing to fight or have an issue with here paying $1:00 to have access to $10 Billion?….lol what’s the fuss about?….Harold? if that’s your real name?….lol with absolute love and gratitude for all Caleb Heather and all the rest of the gang is doing………MAY THE LOVE OF LIGHT COVER THEM FROM ALL DARKNESS as they continue to BUST!!! the gates of the Slave Plantation open. I am willing to pay $100.00 monthly small price for freedom…. Much LOVE
It’s interesting how logical and rational thinking goes completely out the window the minute you are blinded by the prospects of money.
If we all have access to 10 billion dollars each, WHY ON EARTH do anyone need to collect dollars from others?? Hm..? And WHY ON EARTH do we have to TRADE with each other when all of us have 10 billion dollars EACH???
If I have 10 billion dollars, and you have 10 billion dollars, and everyone else have 10 billion dollars, I, personally, would not bother invoicing anyone. Why would I? I ALREADY HAVE 10 BILLION DOLLARS!!!
WE WON’T HAVE TO PAY EACH OTHER ANYMORE!
We can TRULY BE and DO what we want, responsibly, without the burden of accounting, trading, buying and selling.
Jeez… Wake up people. I am not bringing darkness, I am bringing light.
The world is passing you by. There’s a huge awakening going on, where people SHARE FREELY with each other. No trade. No commerce. IT - IS - NOT - NECESSARY . MONEY - IS - AN - ILLUSION
THIS is the awakening.
Harald,
I agree with what you are saying…I truly do. However, what is being missed here is the fact that the old system has not already collapsed and there are far more people that need to be reached than those of us who are already aware. We have all been enslaved for so long that people need to be able to access their value which money (gold, silver & precious metals) is unfortunately a representation of because you’re right…it is an illusion. But in this moment of now It’s about getting the value to the masses so that we can reach a state of liberation and once we’ve managed that then we will all start to remember our organic abilities and that we are truly one. All on the same team, all of source’s universe. Then we will no longer need money because we will all truly know that WE are the value….so as far as me…yes I see what you see and yes I know that we are heading in that direction and as it has been said this is just a bridge to get us out of the old paradigm into the new paradigm and then to the technologies that exist and have been kept from us. There is still a lot of work to be done and I intend to be a part of that DOing. I’m going to use my “value” to help get the message to 3rd world countries where they are far less fortunate than us. I’m going to use my “value” to help a group of women that are working so hard to take care of, heal and provide hope for young girls that have been rescued from the grips of human trafficking, Sad but true Harold…I am the only provider of the finances in our home and I am struggling just like most of the world and it’s all I can do at this point to keep our heads above water so without access to these funds I wouldn’t be much good to those folks that need our assistance. I’m going to use it for the greater good and I don’t mind paying the $12 a month because it’s true it will be returned in kind..it’s a bout paying it forward and I choose to be a part of that process instead of resisting it because it’s not exactly how I think it should be right now! WE are on the right road and WE are on it together just some of us are at different crossroads, but WE’ll all meet up in the end. Love & Light!!
Correction…$12 per year.
Well Said….Humanity would suffer a great chaotic setback if the rug of finance would immediately be pulled from under it. The Creator reminds Us, ” For those Who Lack Wisdom, Let Him Ask and it Will Be Given To Him freely. Namaste
I agree with you completely Tonia. If it is a useful tool, I will definitely pay a buck a month as well to use it. Hopefully, it is a useful tool. My discussion here encompassed much more than this tool alone, which you understand. I also hope it can be a bridge from the old paradigm to the new. And hopefully, more and more people understand what the new paradigm really is.
Love and Light to ALL of us!! WE are all together in it.
Just give no energy to the negativity guys, these Negative Comments are intended to stir up negative emotions in people in hope the dark once ha-vise it, we are the light we stay in the light we give our light to Caleb and the team, just keep that sweet feeling, be drunk with love and laughter, PROJECT X111 for ever…. LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE… WE ALL WILL BE SHOPPING LIKE A BOSS !!!!! LOL LOL
Lol…yes!!! Thanks for reminding me…can’t wait!!! Love & light!!!!
Love and Light back to you Al50 and Tonia. The energy being created by all the positivity is working to keep this whole thing moving forward - it is unstoppable and all we need to do is visualize the desired results as if they all ready are manifest.
Dear Al50. Is that your real name? Al50? My real name is Harald, not Harold. Just try to listen to me. A little bit. I am not from the darkness. I am from the light.
As a compassionate spiritual person, which I recon you are, you would like THE WHOLE WORLD to be able to live good abundant lives, not? And you would GIVE whatever you can to the community, right? You would know that in nature, there is no money, and in nature, life functions as a gift economy, right? You would know that money is a result of greed and mistrust, and has been used by the ‘powers that were’ to control humanity for millennia by putting them in a trance where they think that money is necessary when it is not. You would also know that paper ownership, which was the ultimate tool of the ‘powers that were’, is not real. It was a tool, together with religion and money, designed to DIVIDE and CONQUER. They have succeeded with that for millennia. You now know that nothing can divide us anymore. You would know that I am not against you. I am for you, trying to wake you up from this dream.
You would know that when we simply share, give and collaborate, instead of buy, sell and compete, EVERYONE GETS MORE. You would recognize that WE, together, can create a world that works for EVERYONE, not only parts of the world. And you would know that this, as the compassionate enlightened spiritual person that you are, would be in YOUR interest, since you recognize EVERYONE as YOURSELF, because WE ARE ALL ONE. You would know that this would be no problem, as the WORLD IS ABUNDANT. THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE.
You would understand that when EVERYONE benefits, SO WILL YOU, because YOUR ARE A PART OF EVERYONE. And with competition, commerce, trading, buying and selling gone, we can all concentrate on MAKING THE BEST WORLD FOR US ALL.
And you would know that all of this, it starts with YOU.
Well, I have just read the above comments and yes we all have the rights to have our say. I for one have been sitting in the background as my partner has done the DOing. Maybe its not all OK but if it is it is up to each of us to introduce others and slowly it grows. If the people can’t access their value its up to each and everyone of us that have to reach out and help them. Yes there are still a lot of questions to be answered and a new way to be developed, but lets take things at face value and move as one in LOVE for all humankind and make this happen piece by piece, even if it means walking in the footsteps of the old way while the change takes place.
What does it exactly mean? iPhone takes 30% of every transaction that you will do on your Ixchange using the iPhone app?
Wthout being greedy etc at all… Is it not a bit too much? Not too mention adding to inflation.
Apple is going to take 30% of what ever you transfer using their system. Apple is part of the problem, you know? They use slave labor to produce Iphones. It’s a nice reason to quit apple. Not only are they exploitative of their workers, they also charge ridiculous percentages. I’m not knocking anyone who has an Iproduct. But it’s pretty clear they’re not working for the common good.
It only takes 30% if there is anything to take 30% of. If it is all free, then it is free. Think about that for a moment.
Transfering any value or purchasing an iphone app are different terms. Im kind of confused.
Love u’r attitude Bosse! 4sure, positivity rules! Seriously?! A build-up like this and no “deliver” - who would do that with their names plastered all over the place (and for this long)? ThiMk people! By comparison, one can easily pay $12 for a single drive-thru order and they almost NEVER remember the jalapenos. Methinks there will always be naysayers, but love them too. (Brains ARE wired differently, fact of biology and all that…) Heck the positivity and insights thus far are well worth twelve freaking FRN’s (or whatever currency). Shrinks cost lots more than THAT per session! Maybe grumps are good for balance. Dearest Grumpy Ones, thank you for pointing out everything we ever wanted to know about THE DARK SIDE OF EVERYTHING. Points taken, but I’m like Sid from Ice Age, I choose life…. So me and Sid and Scrat (LOVE that Scrat!) are going to this PARTY and we’ll let you dear naysayers know how GREAT it was!!!! If Caleb delivers as planned, we’ll all be HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY, and if things don’t come online as indicated, then I, for one, will be somewhat disappointed (OF COURSE!) but I certainly won’t give a flying banana about the $1-$12 cover charge. So far, this entire exercise would have to be the most efficient form of LIGHTING and LIGHTENING UP (esp. for the price!) that I will have ever invested in! I’ve been around the block a few times for a number of years, and have literally scraped by the past two years after losing employment in 2011 (age discrimination, duh), and I can truthfully say that THAT was a blessing too, because it got me away from depending on the carrot-on-a-stick system that I and others thought we couldn’t live without. So if this project doesn’t pan out, I know I will still get by, albeit frugally (which can be a creative experience in itself). (Remember, the old system built everyone up IN ORDER to knock them down.) And if Project 13 DOES pan out, as I expect it WILL, then the MUCH BIGGER question has been addressed, which is putting up a barrier between the carrot-on-the-stick-system and people who want to MOVE FORWARD while simultaneously depriving that old system of survival. I’d pay $12 easy just for a mere chance at THAT no questions asked, and the transparency of this movement and the documents speak for themselves. Interim value compensation and operating expense are hardly issues by comparison. If I LOSE that $12 over the next year with no promised gain, then I’ll just leave off the occasional drive-thru treat and go for a run instead. Problem solved. Good, good, good, good vibrations!!!!!!
Thank You
Doesn’t it puzzle you that they demand 12 dollars per year, so that you can get ‘access to your value’ of 10 billion dollars or so? Isn’t there a bell going off, saying, “Hey, if I have access to 10 billion dollars through this system, so should they”. And if they have access to 10 billion dollars through their own system, why would they need 12 dollars per year from the rest of us? No bell? Nothing? No..?
There’s no bell going off simply because I’m not about to judge something I haven’t yet seen. I think your points are completely valid and perhaps there are those of us who haven’t considered the points to which you’re drawing our attention. I have and am open enough to SEE what it looks like before I decide what it is. I recall Caleb suggesting in one of his interviews that sometimes there simply needs to be an energy exchange for there to be flow. I don’t think that people truly understand that concept. By focusing on Free versus Paid For you’re making an artificial separation when all is just energy and energy exchange. You imply that you understand these things yet by deciding that Caleb has no right to expect an energy exchange for his efforts makes me wonder. I think that it’s you are not seeing the deeper undercurrents, here. Not everyone is a blind gullible fool simply because they don’t perceive things in the way that you do. Sometimes people need to have a concrete way of channeling their energy of gratitude. As you yourself keep saying, it’s not about the money. Why are you making it about the money? I don’t work, I am on state benefits. I don’t even have a smartphone and yet I’m already making plans to donate at least $12 so that at least one other person can access their value. That is something I am able to do - help another person access this - and you have no idea how important that is to me. This gives me the vehicle and the opportunity to do that. I don’t have a lot of access to people, there’s only so much talking you can do - having the means to ‘pay’ for someone to access this IS something I can do and that matters. I think you are honestly seeing this in a very short-sighted way.
Totally agree, and I would gladly pay 100 dollars (which I will) since that will help others too.
If anyone has a problem with exchanging some energi for this, then go somewhere else.
It must be tiresome to overthink little tings like this, it makes my head hurt just to even think like that when there are so MANY other tings to focus on.
Otherwise I’m HAPPY HAPPY!
:):)
Love & Light
Well said Ms. Dee…
I agree, Dee. Thank you!
“And they almost never remember the jalapenos.” Thank you for injecting humor! Everything I have heard and read about Project 13 indicates it is completely separate from the I-UV exchange. It may be a platform for accessing value but will most certainly not be the only one. And it is a tool, as there will be other tools, to bridge us from this time to a time where we won’t even need money to exchange value. We continue to be on an amazing learning curve of finding and experiencing our value within. We’re all on our own journey with this, all right where we need to be. If Project 13 doesn’t feel like a fit for you, look for the next idea that does fit for you. Or, if you have the capacity, create another tool.
SPOT ON !! Well written !!!
What is it for? What does it do? How does it work? I would like to see a description for the application. I have Silverlight at the ready. To everyone on the development team, thank you so much for your efforts. I’m exited that the date is fast approaching and look forward to seeing the answers as they materialize.
oh come on you people, get a grip on yourself, I haven’t got an I phone, can’t get one, what about me, it isn’t fair.
Do something about it, instead of whinging, get out of your minds and into your heart s, , into your Being, manifest for yourselves, , get together, help each other. Heather, caleb,mark all the I uv team have done all the hard work, you have no idea, why should they do everything for you.
maybe the I uv team have chosen to Be in the gold n silver energy, way way beyond the 3D material world.
Deep appreciation to you all team
namaste
Harold,
I could not AGREE more with your posts. We are ALL One, and therefore no one should have to pay for anything. Why is it that we are the only species on this earth that has to pay to live here? Pay to eat, etc? The Animals do not pay. I look forward to us all truly being Awakened. I do not understand this whole I UV. I do not understand the concept of this 10 billion yet. Is it going to be the same as the current “money” we all have to currently use to survive? Will it be recognized the same as the current “money”? Will we be able to use this for all the things we all need to survive, such as food, clothing, electric, gas, medical, dental, transportation, etc? Money/Religion has caused all this mess. I look forward to the day when we are out of this mess completely, and ALL is freely given/shared. Thank you Harald, your post resonates deeply with my soul!
We are in complete sync, Pam.
I’m certainly not looking forward to my electricity bill going up a billion dollars next quarter.
I don’t know what Project 13 is, but it seems like it is supposed to be a ‘secure social network’, where we can ‘BE and DO’ online without anyone tapping our info.
It this is what it is, this exist already, for free, in a truly open source way. It is called Diaspora. Here it is: https://joindiaspora.com
Totally free to sign up and totally free to be a part of. Forever. You own all your info. They won’t ever sell it to anyone. It is peer to peer and hosted (at the moment) on 72 different servers across the world and rising.
They give you the opportunity to donate, but doesn’t demand any payment.
Then go enjoy yourself Harald, no one is forcing you to be here……
I am enjoying myself very much. Am I ruining anything for you? Pissing you off? I never meant to do that. I only wanted to give some balance to this. My comments are allowed so far, which is good. And you should be happy for that too, unless it is a totalitarian dictatorship world you want. Discussion is good. Grounding is good. Flying is also good. I am not judging anyone. Everyone are at their own evolutional scale. I am merely bringing information. It is voluntary to read it.
Harald, You obviously are a very intelligent chap and I respect that. I understand that your left brain is going into overload and that all this must seem very challenging. However, why on earth would you spend so much time (AND SO MANY CAPITAL LETTERS) trying to persuade us to distrust a system that hasn’t even been released yet? Just trust yourself and all the people who want this to be a success, with love and appreciation.
Should you be correct and we find that this is a big ‘scam’, then all us people will be grateful for the opportunity this has presented us to connect with other hearts all over the world, and we will carry on even stronger than before.
Please, just consider the possibility that this whole ‘shebang’ might be successful and that the world could be changed for the better because of it, without one person getting ripped off in the process.
You really do create you own reality!
Much love to you, my friend.
Will, don’t take me wrong. I am just having a bit of fun. Don’t you just love a good discussion?
And in the process, I might enlighten someone, or maybe offend someone. Sometimes one needs to get a bit offended to really get something.
Yes, I might have gone a bit over the top with the capital letters.
But I must correct you. I have never claimed this being a scam. If you think so, you are mixing up my comments with someone else’s.
Yes, I absolutely create my own reality, and I love it!
Much love to you too my friend.
Hmm I will wait for the Ixchange before using Project 13 for a buck which is worth about 40 cents these days. The paedophile that created fiat money Thomas Keynes said himself that if his system ever created INflation that his system was a failure. The current monetary system is a moral hazard to sum it up. I offer constructive criticism which is a useful tool. And this comment from Harold that I am responding to is constructive criticism plain and simple and I love you Harold for your open mind. In my mind a gesture of LOVE is worth more than all the wealth in this topsy turvey world. Harold you are being skeptical and it is justified. So the trustees DO need to explain the buck because it stops here for me too. Are those that exchange this buck with the trustees entering into another mischievous contract by deception? Good question IMHO. Remember to love the one on the other side of the planet and all those IN-between!
Will there be some guidelines as how not to pay money back into the old system?
I am assuming that from inside Project 13 you will be able to access the old system?
Data moves from P13 to old system, and old system can not access P13?
Just some thoughts.
That’s a thought. But I would like to see a branching off kind of thing. Maybe if some old system people with lots of fiat could “buy” a bunch of stuff like stores and property. Then make it UV exchange compatable (while keeping it old system compatable too). Then the new system(s) can just weave into the old until it is proved to be trust worthy and become the bridge that can actually teach us how to get off the fiat addiction.
I for one am looking forward to this tool, my son keeps asking me Dad any word on the project yet?…..he has become very knowledgeable on these topics by having to along with me , listen to Bashar and the collective imagination show while he plays his play-station games, he seems to somehow gets it. I know one day we will have no more need for money, but just knowing you don’t have to go back to that slave plantation,to full another bag of cotton. also one would be able to heal some of the pain of being poor as well as removing all this financial limitations, being able to buy what ever you want, or just hanging out with friends and family who you have not seen in years,, and just giggling/laughing for no reason other that, you feel so good and free just sitting around and telling jokes, oh!!! what a day!! what a day!!!! we are all connected to the team thats working on the P13 remember they are feeling our energy, so the negative comments are attempting to shift our energies from joy and happy to anger, argumentative,fighting, etc etc, so that the team will also feel it as well, so lets take our love ball and play on the other-side of the new paradigm, remember it’s all about energy that’s the value, so spent your value where you choose to spend it, So don’t allow yourselves to be distracted by people/or???? trying to trick by asking question or making comments that seems to be in your good interest, but the real purpose is to dis-purse your energy all over the place, we chair for our favorite team we want to win, so we chair for P13 and the IUV Much love…..
aL50, help me to understand…after the launch of project 13 won’t we still have to wait until the “mechanism” is in place before we can access our value?…I read that a few minutes ago, I don’t remember that information being there this morning
I woke today with a positive attitude and a desire to meditate. So i got through my chores, dogwalking, dishwashing, etc. and made time to meditate. It was the most satisfying and therefore successful session I’ve had in years. I came out of it with a need and a plan to raise my conciousness. I took some steps and feel like i helped my self and maybe added some light. All in all, felt pretty good. decided to check progress on OPPT, and opened the site and browse in depth for the first time ever. Took me a while to(5 hours or so) to get to this comments section. first I read of Project 13, so it was quite the eyeopener for me. Of course I knew about the trust but I still had no clue about the plan to disburse any of it. Coincidentally, I recently put myself in a financial bind by buying my first pc since my last one crashed about 10 years ago, and then obligated myself to a $200. a month contract for two years to allow me to keep up with Cobra, David Willcock, Ben Fulford, I UV, alt. media etc. I’m on mostly a fixed income ( SS) and small money I earn doing handyman stuff so I was sweating the immediate financial future. I said all that to say this, the hand of God is in all this and it’s no coincidence that I was led to this comments section today. I will pay my $1 a month and commit to help others like me who need help to secure their future. Have faith Harald and thanks to Caleb,Mark, Heather and all the behind the scenes lightworkers that are doing and being what I’m trying just now trying to get ready for.
HELP ME ANYONE to understand…after the launch of project 13 won’t we still have to wait until the “mechanism” is in place before we can access our value?…I read that a few minutes ago, I don’t remember that information being there this morning. I know project 13 will be like facebook with out the Harvesting, but will it connect us our value or will we still have to Wait…
Deborah, I don’t think any of us know how it will all work yet. The ‘stuff’ is there, from what I understand. We are just gathering the tools to make it accessible to use. I suggest visualizing and feeling how you think you will feel when the new tool(s) of exchange manifest. I hope this will bring some helpful thoughts to mind for you.
Tiffany Thank You…I have been having my BEing And DOing ready since December…I created something like a collage…yes I Know exactly what I want be DOing and BEing After I help People understand what’s going on. My Passion Is to Connect with those Embodiments who want to Farm Hemp and Herbs So that We Can Start Healing the People and Gaia So yeah I’m Ready..I just don’t want to give others the Wrong Information…….I Know CHANGE IS COMING VERY SOON FROM A LOT OF DIRECTIONS, and the Creator Promised Us That there Would Be A HEAVEN ON EARTH!!!! Namaste
My understanding is that we’ll still have to wait. Being separate from the Project 13 platform the i-UV will be accessible by other means (Project 13 will be only ONE means of doing so), but we will definitely have to wait a little longer until it goes live.
I do Love this and appreciate all that has gone int to get this project up and running for all of us. I have read most of the comments. I have not seen reference to Laptops only PC’s. I did download Silverlight last night. My Dell Inspiron is 6 years old and I was running Vista but when my hard drive crashed the person that installed the new one put XP Pro free on it with the drivers. I am wondering if this system will be ok for Project 13 and the IUV Exchange. like many others I am not able to buy the windows phone and my phone is a pretty cheap one. Thank You Caleb and your amazing Team for all you have done and continue to DO. I am living on social security and disability and I can pay 6 months over 2 months to cover the year. I hoe this is an option. Love and Light and Peace To All.
Hi Deborah, it reads in the article above ” The I UV Ixchange is totally separate from Project 13, although when it’s rolled out, Project 13 will be an access point for it.” which I understand to mean it will not be the only platform by which the I/UV exchange will be accessible.
This isn’t directed at you Deborah, just to be clear.
I am rather disheartened to see the snide remarks of the positivity police though at anyone who questions, being told ‘go on, go elsewhere’ etc., is NOT very unity based at all and reminds me of the religious hypocrisy I grew up with. It is not negative to genuinely question something, if no one questioned, no one would have ever woken up! Please try to remember that when you are ‘annoyed’ with people who have some issues or concerns with how they understand it.
I for one, would find it very difficult to afford the 12 dollars as I’m unemployed currently and raising two kids on my own, nor would I have a way to pay it online. It’s a valid concern for billions of people on this planet, so I know I’m not alone. What I gather is Project 13 is mostly a social platform, not a currency exchange, maybe I got it wrong. That being said, the jury is still out for me because I have no confirmation at the security of the platform other than what I’ve heard through heresy. I am willing to hope for the best but it is really sad to think those of my fellow beings would rather I just bugger off and shut up than voice my concerns because that’s just more duality crap at play.
I salute all you positive people for not having any doubts or concerns, please don’t judge me for my own reservations. My life experience has taught me to question everything and I personally think that’s a good policy with anything not proven absolute truth for me.
Thanks Lisa for addressing my question….maybe I should have asked will the I/UV ixchange BE UP and functioning with Project 13. Either way Lisa Great Change Is On The Horizon and it Will Be Coming from other directions…I’m DOing All I Can To Control my Energies…thanks again Love And Light
one question: why pay?
The new system is the goal. pay if you want it to manifest or if you want to wait for the world to change on its own dont pay no fuss.
May I ask a redundant question here? I heard heather mention R V’s What are they?
Jasper hello and I can shed some light on RV. RV= revaluation. A mass RV is supposedly planned for many countries if not all. What created the hype with RV is Bush jr. signed an executive order allowing Americans to invest in Iraqi currency. It actually created Dinarians which is people that invested and bought IQD currency. Some refer to them as Dinartards and I thought that was funny because it is! It is in a nutshell part of humanity and it’s problems. The love of money IS the root of all EVIL@@ so if you are chasing money your chasing EVIL so to speak. For future reference Jasper if you here RI vs RV it means a reinstatement of the currency. In other lamen terms Iraq’s currency was around approx. $3.55 for 1 Dinar. So an RI would bring it back to it’s old value before the war which what occured with Kuwait’s currency after that war with Iraq. I hope this helps Jasper! Take care!
I’ve been waiting since the 60′s for something like this and energetically it challenges me to think further and further outside the box. Heather’s spiritual leadership is so inspiring. She can simplify things that immediately expand me.
Does it lead to Unity or Polarity? Such a simple question.
Yes I am willing to contract with Caleb according to his terms and conditions and bless him and his colleagues. I am more than willing to lend my energy to this uniting program which will not harvest my data unknowingly.
I have patiently watched since Dec 2012 as this beautiful Tree of Life suddenly popped up from underground it’s first visible shoots although the roots had been growing underground for years. The lovely organic way in which it grows seems to bypass the disintegrating square and cubic structures and form beautiful golden lattices reminiscent of the weaving of dreamcatchers and lace.
Lucas2012 has a beautiful post up about opposites becoming synergy and I had a picture pop into my head of propulsion from rapid expansion and contraction.
I AM, I BE and I DO
and I AM BE and DO LOVE
Genius! Absolute GENIUS!!! Love you all for caring and Doing to this degree! I appreciate you so much that you are there to do! I thank you!!!
it seems to me that a lot of people are forgetting that project XIII is just a part of the transition phase, helping to get out of the old, without the immediate imposition of an untested replacement. The transition phase could take some time to
get through, as all people will need to be awakened, not only to what has been going on for some considerable time,
but to the changes being implemented and the impact it will undoubtedly have on their lives, families, & communities.
A lot of these changes cannot be bought, but carry true value, placing monetary considerations before social &
communal developments seems a backward step.
best to get the system up & running, as only then will the quirks be truly found & addressed. In love & light, Namaste!
Boomer.
Just noticing how interesting/varied all these perspectives are and it comes to mind that “pods” of innate capability (was that the term?) are forming even in this discussion. For instance, I would nominate “lisa” as moderator in this particular running commentary. I’ve learned a lot just reading these posts. Can’t wait for the full-on “exchange” coming up…
Will we have to wait another month before the i-uv exchange rolls out or will this be available for use a week from the project 13 launch? Also how does this work in tandem with nesara and its eventually announcement and roll out?
Of paramount importance is to commission new mobile phones that do not abuse our rights - as they contain the technology to track us wherever we are, are able to abuse the camera/microphone to see/hear what we are saying and doing, 24/7.
These should be sourced from new manufacturers by written guarantees that these devices cannot be accessed.
I would be interested to know the checks/security measures you intend to install/use.
Otherwise, I suggest that none of those currently abusing our rights should be commissioned to provide either software/hardware.
There must be thousands of people who are able to produce objects that do not abuse our rights.
We should start with a clean slate and bring in new players.
In my experience, there are software routines written into off-the-shelf software that is able to TRACK all your activity and also hardware embedded into computers which enables it to act as a listening device.
That also applies to all mobile phones, TV’s and cars.
Are you aware of this?
Is there any possibility that an agreement could be reached to ensure that all illegal surveillance is stopped by removal of unnecessary hardware/software.
Or if not how would it be possible to challenge abuses of the various Articles?
I’m a dedicated and proud fence sitter on this whole issue, (Don’t worry, I have a cushion up here so I’m comfy with it). When everything to this point is simply words on a computer screen or audible program, I’ll remain on my fence. I’d like to share one thing I’ve learned and know. Not feel or believe, but know from experience. The gift or reward for giving is exactly that, the process of having given. Took me a long time to learn that. No perceived ‘fiat’ money or some tangible, physical thing or item given in return for having given, whilst it may be appreciated and a nice thing to receive, it doesn’t go anywhere near the experience enjoyed of having given. I can understand that if someone is working hard to introduce something for the people, working from their heart and soul, that they may need some kind of help in regards to fiat money especially if it’s coming from their own pocket in order to get the thing done. This might come across as completely opposite to the collective here but, if Caleb needs ‘money’ to provide this thing then why doesn’t he just borrow it? Surely he can pay it back once he has access to his value. Or any number of the people involved with him could simply mortgage their houses and they’d be flushed with funds, then simply pay it back once they have access to their value. Someone mentioned the amount of money that Heather has spent, the sacrifice of safety etc. to herself and her family. So? Obviously a million dollars of fiat money doesn’t mean much to her and she lovingly and willingly proceeded to use it to advance her cause of giving. I mean it’s not like she only had a million and one dollars, spent a million freeing us and was left with one dollar. She’s been a career lawyer so it’s probably fair to say she has much more than that. I’m pretty sure we all appreciate that and we thank her for that. She has given and been rewarded with the experience of having done so. They all have. And as long as they desire to give, we all continue to thank them. Regardless of the length and breadth, both tangibly and emotionally, of their acts of giving, this is something they wanted to do and give and did/do so lovingly and freely. That’s wonderful and we thank them for it. So, in their continued acts of giving and doing, when they present project 13 to us, we can then decide whether or not we want to donate to it. But not before. I’ve been self employed all my life. I know I’ve never been given money for a job before I’ve completed and delivered it. I’ve never even thought to ask for anything up front because until I’ve actually completed and delivered the job in question, it’s just words.
Also, these people are the ones setting up the system for us all to have access to our value. Therefore it’s logical to suggest that they themselves already have access to it and control it. No? There’s your funds Caleb.
I apologise if all or any of the above comes across as sarcastic or lacking in faith or just downright uncaring. I also, from the bottom of my heart, don’t really care what anyone might think. Maybe I’m incapable of seeing the big picture. Obviously I’m an unascended being, trapped in a 3D existence. All I ever see in this world is two things. Words and actions. Words have no value until action is taken upon them. That’s why I remain on the fence…for now
…by the way, it’s June 1st.
Mark,
I hear exactly what you’re saying. But listen to my story and see if it resonates with you - I was in an automobile accident in 2004 and I woke up from my 8 day coma on my 27th birthday with the desire to be a better person, to give more than I receive. I didn’t have much of an idea of who or where I was but I had the overwhelming sensation that I had to express my gratitude, in one way or another, at having been given another chamce at life. I had to learn to walk, talk, speak, eat, drink etc. all over again but that’s another story.
Now I have faithfully completed that task ever since. I put my problems to one side and I make a conscious effort to make somebody else’s day every single day of my life - with my own money that I got from the insurance claim & I can’t work again. And just doing that one thing for somebody else, paying it forward if you like causes me to cry tears of joy, every single time. like you said in your post - that experience of giving, that experience on it’s own is remarkable - for everything else, there’s Mastercard…
In my humble opinion, you need to believe a little, come down off that fence of yours coz it aint so nad down here when you have a “contrite” heart - look it up if you don’t know what it means.
G
Mark, I don’t *think Caleb needs money. I think the system requires an exchange. Or at least there is talk of that as far as I can tell. I understand your fence sitting though. No one will be able to really know what is going to happen on the receiving side of the application until it’s launched. Granted, the claims are big. So if this piece of software doesn’t pass the smell test for the first folks who are in to try it, you can bet that it’ll be spread more quickly on the doubters side than on the side of those who are heavily invested.
Trust me. It’s not easy having faith all the time. But little things make it easier. Like thinking of your friend and them calling. Or imagining someone saying a phrase, then hearing it from another person. Well that makes it easier for me to get excited rather than skeptical. But don’t get me wrong. I wrestle between having total faith, to having serious doubts as to the motives of those involved.
Put it this way. If this is a hoax, these folks deserve Oscars. They altered the UCC. I can prove it over and over with about 172 pages of docs, And then some you have to purchase from the UCC website because they don’t show up on the download sites.
But sit on the fence, my friend. I totally understand as to why so many are doing so. It’s some scary stuff to believe such statements as the folks who did this have made. Big claims require big proof. Everyone’s waiting for the shoe to drop.
But if it helps. Check out some of the news outlets and what’s happening throughout the world. The IRS just put a freeze on ALL their computers. I was told by a friend that anonymous is hammering them bigtime. That’s only a small portion of the news, too. So stick around. Download the ap. Read the terms and conditions. Pay the 3.33 cents a day if you want to check it out, too. I’m going to pay for access. I want to know.
So do you have a link Scot, where I can download and search UCC files ?
Actually Mark, just pointing out that whilst it may be June 1st for you it is not June 1st yet for everyone.
It is still Friday evening for the West coast of USA & the early hours for the East coast & very early morning in Morocco as I write this.
Also you seem to be laboring under a misapprehension - there has been no request for payment for Project 13 BEFORE it is launched, in fact there is no facility set up or anywhere to go to enable payments to occur beforehand.
All that has been stated is that it will cost $1 per month for those who wish to use it. So they will in fact be delivering the “goods” before people have to make a decision as to whether they choose to use it or not.
The funds will be used to continue to develop further products that are requested by the users but the first stage of Project 13 will be up & running before any payments are made.
It has also been stated that the UV ixchange will be running some time after Project 13 is released & is completely separate to Project 13. The UV Ixchange will only be 1 option for people to be able to access their value so nobody has to use Project 13 & pay anything if they don’t want to.
‘Actually Mark, just pointing out that whilst it may be June 1st for you it is not June 1st yet for everyone.
It is still Friday evening for the West coast of USA & the early hours for the East coast & very early morning in Morocco as I write this.’
I was waiting for someone to point this out
I think it’s funny to see people are saying “discussions are healthy” when in fact it’s rambling “I’m not paying the 1 dollar!” blabla. This sounds to me, IMHO, very selfish and some will sit on the fence because of this little thing? This is all energy and to make things happen we need to support this or it will not go as smoothly as we want too, or worse take much longer than expected…
What is this nonsense about Caleb, Heather having access to the value without a system of delivery? If they did they probably would have used it already, but in the end it is about ALL of us, not about THEM.
They have been tempted with deals etc which could have ended our freedom indefinitly, but they didn’t and THANKS FOR THAT! and to me that shows the biggest heart of all where 99% of us would have crumbled at that point.
IMO we have a responsibility in the early phases to share this to people who sees the bigger picture and so it doesn’t end up in the old system, like paying mortgages, loans and taxes etc. People in general are going into a steep learning curve, and I will definitly share this BUT if people just see the money aspect of this I’ll be moving a long for the ones who are likeminded and see the bigger picture first, that’s me. Why would we want to have the Cabal-mess endure because people don’t understand? This is the transition we are going into, so let’s make this a BEAUTIFUL ONE!
That’s my IMHO, and I’m up for discussions, but please do it in a different manner than rambling about what is right or wrong, and on top of that having fun on others expense, that is not good in my book, right Harald?
We’re ALL in this together, and I want this to go as smoothly as possible, as probably everyone else.
I see the value in Project XIII, as Mark Hoza tells us, and I’ll gladly pay much more then 1 dollar for this.
For me this comes down to trust, and I TRUST Caleb, Heather, the team etc, but do you?
We can have opinions about anything and everything, but let’s not argue about the little things and instead use our energy on the BIGGER things.
Love & Light
Can you provide some links to those news outlets please Scot?
As Tom Petty said, the waiting is the hardest part. However in the interim, while I’ve been aware of the OPPT thing since about late January/early February, and don’t get me wrong, I’m attuned and aligned with the philosophy of it all, I’ve casually bided my time looking for a single sign anywhere in the mainstream of this whole thing. From worldwide to country wide, state wide and local sources. Maybe I’m not searching far and wide enough, maybe I’m not perceiving certain news events clearly enough. To my knowledge, and please someone inform me otherwise, I really mean it, I haven’t come across a single point of recognition of OPPT among ANY mainstream source of information. I think we all agree the mainstream is controlled, that’s pretty obvious. And it’s terribly easy to simply say, “Dude, of course you’re not gonna see a sign of it in the mainstream, it’s controlled man!”
What I do see is reports of it in the alternative and independent sector. I also see debunking in the alternative and independent sector and in some of those, it’s never been mentioned.
So I gather then that every conceivable square inch of mainstream is controlled right down to the warehouse guy or girl, nothing ever, ever leaks out unless it’s designed to.
Not a single perceived mainstream ‘newsworthy’ individual such and celebrities, sportsmen and women, entertainers, politicians (understandable), generally ‘famous’ people, and there are a lot of ‘famous’ people that work hard for genuine good causes. Not a single one has been reported in any medium to be associated with the words OPPT…unless of course I’ve simply missed it and would appreciate being pointed to the report. There is such a thing as legitimacy as well as simple faith or belief and truth. I’m far more inclined to lean on legitimacy than faith and belief, I’ve seen how close minded people can be when relying on faith and belief. I’m simply asking for an example of legitimacy in the mainstream. Preferably not an opinion or an interpretation of a known news event without it being backed by fact.
Since the beginning I haven’t made one single mention of OPPT, not a single share of anything associated with OPPT on my facebook. Admittedly for fear of being labelled as something but more so, because I’m waiting to see if ANY of my 300 plus connections on facebook have happened across OPPT without my sharing. Not a single one. Now that could mean that all of my connections are so ingrained in the system that they are completely and utterly blind to the mechanisms of the system. Maybe so. In fact some of them I know so just through their actions, statements and general demeanor. They’d be the last to come round. But I also have some very open minded, intelligent, spiritual, creative (not necessarily possessing of all those traits individually), connections that I would assume to be at least open to having heard of the OPPT. Not a single one of them. There are two or three connections I have that do but they’re recent connections through all this. I’m talking about all my connections before OPPT became generally known. Before you say, “Well what do you expect if you’re not sharing the love?” I haven’t not shared anything through a lack of wanting to, I’m simply just waiting to see if anyone I know is aware of it. No-one I know or talk to outside of my computer has mentioned OPPT. No family member, no friend, acquaintance, work colleague.
I am digressing I know. I apologise for that. I’m also not terribly good at economising my words. I’m also not seeking to argue any points. And I’m certainly not being negative. If anyone perceives it that way that’s more to do with you than me. Those that know me know that I’m a serial optimist. In the great scheme of themes, I’m simply asking for total transparency. And of course I know that no-one here really knows and we all have to simply wait and see.
Mark, you are quietly fence sitting and said ” I haven’t not shared anything through a lack of wanting to, I’m simply just waiting to see if anyone I know is aware of it. No-one I know or talk to outside of my computer has mentioned OPPT. No family member, no friend, acquaintance, work colleague.” It seems rather silly to expect it to be all over main stream media given the standard you yourself have set on the distribution of the information. Just sayin’….
I speak about it selectively, my partner knows but won’t discuss it. I told one of my sons but not the other. I have done thorough research about this all along so that I am prepared to move quickly when and if money is freed up for our use. So far I’m feeling very confident about Heather, Caleb, et al. Even if it doesn’t happen I haven’t invested any money into it up till now and I haven’t been asked to. Today I may drop my first dollar…:-)
I never said I expected it to be all over the mainstream media Trish. Just one snippet would satisfy my curiosity. One iota. One tiny little report. If we all agree that the main stream media the world over is controlled, then obviously it’s 100% across the board. That means thousands, millions of people that work in the media have had a gun to their head and told not to say anything. Or at least received a strongly worded memo. That’s a pretty mean feat considering the nature of humans. Sure someone might say well the majority of journos wouldn’t know, only the CEO’s would be aware of the foreclosures. That would be assuming then that there’s not a single journalist in the mainstream, in the entire world, that exercises a natural journalistic instinct to search far and wide for information (where they would of course easily find that the world had been foreclosed). And if they did, they were so concerned about their measly income, compared to the promise of untold freedom, that they thought it best not to say anything.
Anyhoo I’m just putting thoughts down on keyboard really. Curse my logical brain. And I agree with you, it would be wonderful to help the victims of natural disasters. And ideally I may even drop my first dollar today.
Ken, you said, “The people in the know aren’t telling all they know, so that leaves the rest of us to wait and of course speculate.” I agree with this.
If they’re so aware then they would be aware of the apprehension of people. Have they even said something to the effect of, “There are things that we are not telling you all on purpose because of the sensitive nature of the processes and we can’t afford to divulge some things”. ? I could understand that but I haven’t heard them say that. I’ve only heard them say, in response to questions from callers, “That’s all I’m prepared or able to say on that”. Transparency would be to add why.
Gary, I can only attempt to imagine your experience and would be a fool to offer that I understand what you went through (not suggesting that you would allude to that
But I can empathise with your feelings of gratitude of having been given another chance at life. I do need to believe a little and I’m working on it. That’s why I haven’t fully dismissed this whole thing. I mentioned earlier that the philosophy of OPPT resonates with me and I’m hopeful of a positive outcome from it. I’ll even be brave enough to admit that I want this freedom for selfish reasons, but also because I want every genuine, good and honest person on this planet to have a life of freedom. I so know..that this isn’t how life is meant to be.
In general, I’ve never practiced ‘faith’ in anything. I’ve only ever kept an open mind, as I do now, until full transparency is given and facts are on the table. Which hasn’t happened yet with OPPT. Only then can I decide to go with it or dismiss it and move on. Right at this point in time, OPPT is just another alternative promise of a new and better way, of which there has been countless. It’s still in the remains to be seen category.
Once again folks don’t mind me, I’m just blurting out loud whilst awaiting an outcome…I really feel like going and watching a funny cat video right now!
Mark, here is an example: A few days ago I watched this video Corruption/WorldBank/Whistleblower.mp4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4VGoXV5vYg&lc=I8hcjsDNuCDA54MyV09TAGwDx1i-aIhGyKte8c5MP9E created by Karen Hudes Senior Counsel for the World Bank legal department reports corruption to US Congress, the World Bank’s other member countries, and the public. She was quite passionate about blowing the whistle on corruption that she found in the World Bank. So in comments I asked her what she thought of the OPPT movement. She replied “Not much” so I asked her to elaborate. She replied “Because of who is behind this scheme and because it doesn’t work” which was a fairly lame answer I thought. Perhaps I will pursue it. Ironically though, one of the commentors asked “Why isn’t this all over the main stream media?”
I guess I lost affinity for her because her solution was to get her old job back and not to drastically change or improve the system. It is very interesting though that she knew exactly what I was talking about and who was involved.
“Can you provide some links to those news outlets please Scot?”
Mark, you can do a youtube search and find most of the original interviews with Heather, Caleb and there is even one from Randal.
So I’ll go out on a limb and make a prediction. Project XIII will not launch today as promised. They will come up with a reason to kick the can down the road for a few more weeks. And then a few more weeks. And…well, you get the picture.
This doesn’t make sense on its face. Caleb is using the commercial Internet, which is notoriously insecure, and Microsoft Silverlight, which they are weekly, and sometimes daily, having to patch to plug yet another security hole.
And, of course, to design a system to give access to our $10 billion, Caleb has to already have access to that value. So the whole $1 a month doesn’t make any sense at all. All I see is that if Caleb can get 10,000 subscribers to this thing at $1 a month, he’ll have $10,000 a month income in good, old FRN’s. Think about it.
John, you may be very well correct. But you may not. I understand your doubt but stop and wait for more than 5 minutes and realize that not everyone is going to do what some tricksters have done in the past. And $10K a month is NOTHING. I used to make $40K a month before the crash. Do you really think that this group would go this far, do all these filings - which I can prove exist in the government’s own website, just to make money? Money that is in freefall collapse right now? Good gravy man.
Why on Earth would you ‘hear’ anything from the Lamestream Media? They are on the Cabal payroll, so they are not going to jeopardise their salary are they. There is nothing ‘open’ about the media outlets. This is a time to follow your Heart and Be-Live, if your contacts on Social Media do not mention anything about OPPT, then they are not ready yet but when you ‘follow through’, you can then educate them, with Love and kindness. Love & Light
This is a giant leap forward… thank you Caleb and friends for what you are doing. The Ubuntu Planet service will definitely link to P13 and attempt to integrate with it as tightly as possible in the future…
Lamestream media… love it!!!
Ok, im gonna keep it short, whilst I appreciate the multi dimensionality of all this - really feel time for more practical data concerning how this access to our value is achieved (envisaged) via I uv exchange, feel light needs to be shone on the logistics of this and I am not afraid to talk about money like its some taboo… it is a necessary tool (evil) and stepping stone to kick start this ride!! So lets keep it real. Transparency Transparency Transparency ! Much Gratitude Chris and company!! Namaste. Steve UK
Well I guess that’s probably about the best answer I’m gonna get to ‘The greatest event in the history of humanity’ as referred to from the OPPT crew.
Apparently there is already a method of funding folks directly via their cell phones. Here is an article about it. http://www.givedirectly.org/chris.php GiveDirectly’s work is stunningly simple: accept donations from everyday people; identify impoverished households in Kenya; and then transfer money to household members’ cell phones via text message using the mobile phone payment system M-Pesa. The recipients can spend the money in any way they like. That’s right - the recipients can spend the money for any good without any oversight. GiveDirectly monitors the ways families use transfers and the efficacy of their choices, but it does not constrain their activity or impose conditions.”
Apparently cell phones in Kenya are far cheaper than they are in the United States. But to assist those without the means to afford a phone here at home we should be able to set up a “Free Fund” with the cell phone distributors here in the West so that folks may just walk in and get a phone to start accessing their value.
Trish, great idea - thanks for the info.
Think of the tremendous value of this in helping victims of tornadoes, floods, hurricanes, etc…
I’m not worried about the giving, that will just flow, its this access to unlimited funds I find mysterious ? just how what and where are these funds ? no one can seem to answer this with any clarity ! Namaste. Steve UK.
I am sorry to disappoint you Steve, but that is because there aren’t any funds. As we all know, currency is made up of people’s trust in it and it’s issuer, which is usually the state. There have, through millennia, been used various items as currencies, from grain and salt, to metal coins, printed paper and now, electronic fiat money, which all national currencies today consist of. For a new currency to be accepted by society, it has to be introduced through channels that people are used to and trust.
If I come to a merchant, telling him/her that the old currency SEK (Swedish kroner) is not valid anymore, and that I have this new currency, called ‘UV’, and he/she should just trust me and accept this through my iPhone app, how many do you think will do that?
If the ‘UV currency’ becomes widely accepted, I still don’t see the point in trading with it, as all people on the planet now have an equal amount of it, in the order of 10 billion dollars, or so. What’s the point of giving money to someone who already have exactly as much as you? And what’s the point of accepting money if you already have 10 billion?
What our job then amounts to is to spread information about this. What the OPPT in effect has done is to abolish money and trading. Accessing this ‘UV value’ and start spending it would be to deceive all the rest that doesn’t know about their value, which is basically what the rich have done for millennia.
Again, I’m not saying this to bring you people down, but to wake you up. There will be no new world unless we wake up. If we ‘spend our value’, we will only perpetuate the old world mentality.
Let’s just take a scenario where we do start to ‘spend our value’:
All of us ‘UVers’ somehow get access to this ‘UV value’ (which is the same as everyone else’s value) and starts to use it in the world. We of course would have to do this secretly, since if we disclose the UV to anyone we pay, that person will of course also want to access his/her value. But, let’s say we pay for stuff without disclosing the information. What would happen?
Firstly, someone would immediately get more ‘value’ than you, because you have given them of your value. Again, financial inequality is created.
Secondly, when becoming aware of the ‘UV value’ they would feel bad for not having been told about it before. Again, strife has been created.
Thirdly, when everyone knows about their value in the form of monetary currency, the currency will have no value. Because everyone having 10 billion each is equal to everyone having nothing.
What the OPPT have done is to reset the whole monetary system.
So, what is your ‘value’ then? Your value is You. Your abilities, your creativity, your intention, your knowledge, your willingness, your compassion, your love, your choices. And your unlimited eternal access to the Creator’s infinite power and intelligence. You are the Creator. That is your Value.
Now, again, I am not saying this to bring anyone down, but rather to lift us up. Up from the swamp, so to speak. The swamp of the monetary mindset with competition, commerce and trading, to a new world where collaboration, sharing and giving reigns. A world where absolutely everyone will benefit. Where no one will be left out. Where our motivation lies in creating the best possible world for all of us, fully aware that we are a part of that whole, and that we will benefit just as much as anyone else.
I know, I know, getting to this world isn’t easy as long as most people on the planet subscribes to the monetary mindset and system. But, as the OPPT has stated already, we are now all custodians of the planet. Paper ownership is gone. That’s a start.
One possible way I see the ‘UV currency’ to be used is to pay former (unknowing) corporations for resources to actually start to build the new moneyless world. They will then hand over resources in the belief that they get money. This is cheating, of course, but, I don’t know, it’s the only use I can see for any ‘UV currency’, whether it is exchanged into dollars or something else.
Anyway, it’s all going to work out. Namaste and Light and Love to all of us!
Good post Harald. I had wrongly assumed that this issue had been previously addressed by someone on this site. by this issue I mean the anarchy that would be created by turning everyone loose with some huge some of money, whether it was 10 bn or 50 bn, which is the number I was originally given, chaos would surely follow. And because of the obvious truth of that as Harald aptly points out, I had moved on from OPPT as I know of others that have also done. But in one of Cobra’s updates, at least I think it was Cobra’s, when he was giving details of the coming “Event”, he talked about a sum of $100,000 that would be made available to everyone in need. That makes more sense and it would buy everyone time as well as build confidence, so when I started reading these comments I again wrongly assumed that was what the disbursement talk was about. So, my question becomes, where the hell did the 10 bn number come from? Like someone before posted about the Morroco group, Lucy, you’ve got some ” splainin ” to do. But in the meantime, about the reality of the funds, according to David Willcock (Divine Cosmos web site) , the funds available will be closer to $200 trillion when the smoke clears. And I’m sure the disbursement thereof will be be handled in such a way as to avoid chaos and anarchy. IE. infrastructures built to produce the energy, food, transportation, etc.,etc.And as far as disbursement and availability are concerned, we have to remind ourselves, these guys are the greatest “hackers ” on the planet, I’m sure they have addressed that issue as well. Eventually, I believe the intent is to do away with currency but to do that without a lot of prep would be just as foolish as dropping 10 bn in our laps so once again I say, the hand of God is in this and I believe this time we are going to like our free will. so keep the faith and produce some light.
Harald, you said “Firstly, someone would immediately get more ‘value’ than you, because you have given them of your value. Again, financial inequality is created.” Though I like a lot of what you say your logic is off here - you prefaced this in part with “… but let’s say we pay for stuff…” I’d like to point out that if we have received “stuff” from somebody and paid for it there has been an exchange of value. The money we paid represents our energy and the “stuff” represents their energy. I don’t see and unfair exchange of value unless usury is involved. But, I have to decide if the item I’m purchasing has the value that is being asked for it. Given the state of the world I’m guessing that values are very skewed on almost everything. For example, yesterday I was shopping online for a pair of sandals, I found three for sale, one pair was lightly used and was going for $17 another was new and $35 and a third pair was exactly the same but came with the box and it was $85. I considered purchasing all three because that particular sandal is no longer in production and I LOVE it. At first I was turned off by the $85 offer - but then I thought “that is the value that person places on her item. It’s obvious that amount of money is important to her and given that I, today, will have unlimited funds then why not give her the value that she feels is important?” It is also clear to me that I won’t be able to inform every person in every transaction about the new value but I figure we will spread the word in other ways and often. I have my fingers crossed that all these things will work themselves out in time…
Hmnnn…. Sounds like a game of monopoly, so how exactly you fool these corporations with monopoly money im not sure ? sorry Harald call me thick but I still don’t get it, just have to wait and see I guess but thanks for your input.
I’m new to this site so a lot of the info about OPPT is also new to me. I had no knowledge of plans to give access to the trust money except from rumors and vague comments. So a lot of what is being talked about here is going over my head, but a lot of concerns that I’m hearing are addressed in other places that I have been monitoring. In particular, the concern of feeding the old system, if what I’ve been reading is true, when the “Event” takes place, there won’t be an old system to worry about. What that means exactly, I’m not qualified to say, but I believe “transition” will be a key word. How will we handle the logistics of moving into the new “system. The people in the know aren’t telling all they know, so that leaves the rest of us to wait and of course speculate. The one thing that i get out of it is that my role is to stay positive, spread the word and light when possible. I’ve been on an emotional rollercoaster for a while now and I expect than i am as antsy as anyone. Not easy at all but I’m convinced that we can speed or slow the process by the energy we are creating. IMHO
That’s a great start for freedom of speech and a new way of BE’ing. I mention there will be a FREE internet tv/radio station coming from David Icke and my message was not even posted. Good luck with Project XIII guys…
A mobile phone money transfer system in Kenya called M-Pesa means customers can deposit and withdraw money from a network of agents that includes airtime resellers and retail outlets acting as banking agents. M-Pesa is operated by Safaricom, a mobile network operator (MNO), which is not classed as a deposit-taking institution (such as a bank).
In April 2007, following a student software development project from Kenya,[3] Safaricom launched a new mobile phone based payment and money transfer service, known as M-Pesa.[4] The service allows users to deposit money into an account stored on their cell phones, to send balances using SMS technology to other users (including sellers of goods and services), and to redeem deposits for regular money. Users are charged a small fee for sending and withdrawing money using the service.[5] M-Pesa has spread quickly, and has become the most successful mobile phone based financial service in the developing world.[4] By 2012, a stock of about 17 million M-Pesa accounts had been registered in Kenya.[1]
The initial work of developing the product was given to a product and technology development company[6] known as Sagentia. Development and second line support responsibilities were transferred to IBM in September 2009, to where most of the original Sagentia team transferred.
SERVICES
Deposit and withdraw money
Transfer money to other users and non-users
Pay bills
Purchase airtime[10][11]
Transfer money between the service and a bank account (in some markets) [12]
The user interface technology of M-Pesa differs between Safaricom of Kenya and Vodacom of Tanzania, although the underlying platform is the same. While Safaricom uses SIM toolkit (STK) to provide handset menus for accessing the service, Vodacom relies mostly on USSD to provide users with menus, but also supports STK.[13]” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-Pesa
Very cool
Here is an article on USA mobile money systems http://www.bankrate.com/finance/savings/make-payments-by-cell-phone-1.aspx
today is June 1st has project 13 been launch as get?
Hello All! I want to thank everyone of you Wonderful Beautiful Beings who are co-creating our new Doing! I am just as anxious as the rest of you to have Project 13 launched and to have access to my value in this tangible way, although I do not accept it at the expense of Caleb’s health and well being, his family and loved ones or any other Eternal Essence’s Embodied! I choose to be patient and send love and well wishes to ALL! For the highest greatest good for ALL!
Maybe a key word here is “projected” as in projected launch date? Project (verb) as in to propose something, which I don’t think implies a guarantee. Correct me if I’m wrong here. Just a thought.
As I sit here awaiting the launch of Project 13 with I find myself pondering the responsibility of a blogger to his/her readers.
Of course it depends on the motivation or purpose behind the blog.
Is it to provide dialogue, information and maintain contact with the readers or is to entertain the blogger when there is no adventure to be experienced.
This is something for the bloggers in Morocco to ponder. I am very sure that you all are very busy. However, if the motivation is to provide dialogue, information and maintain contact with the readers, there are tens of thousands of supporters all over this planet who would like some form of communication. We all have done our part and continue to do our part in this enfoldment and the healing of the separation. As you continue to enjoy the experience please reach out to the folks who continue to LOVE and SUPPORT you.
I see a bridge being made to a moneyless society. At first we will trade our value for value/currency. Being to Being making individual contracts with every exchange. All that I see happening is that we are taking the unnecessary ‘middle man’ out of the equation and doing it directly with each other. You will be able to exchange the UV units with those who accept them for value. Don’t quit your day job just yet. Most people are only aware of one channel of exchange at this point. We (those that support the UV exchange) will be responsible for generating this system. I like how Heather put it in the last CI show. Merchants will start to see another channel of currency and open it up.
vi aspetto tutti a braccia aperte, sarò la mia scelta, io sono .,..
I DON’T want my $10 billion.
Really.
What I want is for life to be easier for everyone, and for the happiness factor of the planet to rise 10 billion fold. To hell with money… That’s where it came from, that’s where it should go back to.
Project XIII is just one of the jumping off points for humanity (for whoever wants to use it), if socks were the “currency”, I would gladly give 1 sock per month to pay Caleb and Co.’s efforts on this. (I’d wash them first, of course.)
Money Is the term /name given to something by the PTW to represent your value/energy. from your energy/DNA/ inherited creative ability they produced all the technologies we see and have today, so much so that the US Govt wanted to Paton your DNA, Human DNA making claim to it as their’s/ owners. your Birth Registration number # that’s In Red representing your blood,/straw Man, Is being traded daily as a security/product/slave/ on a selling block as in the days of slavery as we historically understands it to be or now the stock market as it is called today making Millions of Dollars/a representation of your value, that we never knew and were not told of by the PTW /Bankers Govts etc etc who exploits it/us on a daily basses while all dressed up in expensive suits giving the impression to the world as having a respectable career etc etc. that whole process tied us all / giving them claims/ownership over our Beings/body/person,etc etc legally unknowingly by us of course through the U.C.C filings making us through their warped/evil definitions in the U.C.C law their properties, but thanks to the awakening and the work of the OPPT, I have to say that were truly divinely inspired, severed us humanity from this bogus claims by the PTW of sole ownership over us humanity legally, by using their own rules of the UCC filings, but anyway the truth of the matter is we and were and always the value, the engine that drives there economy,we are the products we are the value, hence we have the UV, universal value, we the Embodied essence,creations, people of the planet and through out the universe choosing to exchange/trade not for profit, our energy value which we can choose a/any denomination/currency to represent a tangible version of this value we use to call money, we still use it because the world as we know it is still in that transition faze, so for now until that day when we would need no more representation of our value /money, we still have to use some kind of tool / paper we call money but in this case we chose the term value exchange. I am no expert on all of this but hope it brings some kind of clearer understanding to the many it seems who are just catching on/up Much love…….
Transparency….. why have we not heard anything about project 13 today? It would be nice to hear something from the ground crew about the status.
In Peace and gratitude,
Journey
As a former software developer I know that product launch dates slip ALL the time. A one line sentence can switch the energy from one of eager anticipation to one of focusing of energy to Caleb and his development team. Most of us are routing for them and for the delivery of an amazing product. Just let us know how to focus thoughts for the highest good of all. “All thought produces form at some level”.
with Love and gratitude
Hi, it’s June 2nd. Has this thing launched yet?
Anybody out there taken longer than than they thought they would to get something completed?
A projected date means: based on known and assumed factors, and if things go according to plans, a reasonable point in time is identified for delivery of the goods.
Hopefully there are people viewing and commenting here who have been in a lead role on a large, complex project, or perhaps been part of a team responsible for delivering something that breaks new ground. To me, what matters is that there are people doing whatever it takes to make it happen.
I’m not a coder, but I have worked on projects that relied on development of new software. It is a lot of work, and when things don’t work as expected, it can be very difficult to sort out.
This whole thing sound like a mighty big undertaking to me. I’m betting the people that are doing the work would be appreciative of some leeway re: “Isn’t this the day” and/or “What time is it, why I haven’t heard anything”.
BTW, I have no involvement in the project whatsoever, this is just my thoughts on the subject, as an interested outsider.
Future Economy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilY4hRgfC2Q&feature=youtu.be
Time is off on the last post of mine - it is 8:42 pm of June 1st here.
It’s 7pm here, Trish.
WHEN TODAY ENDS ON THE PLANET; “Anywhere on Earth (AoE) is a calendar designation which indicates that a period expires when the date passes everywhere on earth. The last place on earth where any date exists is on Howland Island, in the IDWL time zone (the “Hawaii side” of the International Date Line), and so is the last spot on the globe for any day to exist. Therefore, the day ends AoE when it ends on Howland Island.
The convention originated in IEEE 802.16 balloting procedures. At this point, many IEEE 802 ballot deadlines are established as the end of day using “AoE”, for “Anywhere on Earth.” as a designation. This means that the deadline has not passed if, anywhere on earth, the deadline date has not yet passed.
Note that the day’s end AOE occurs at noon Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) of the following day, Howland Island being halfway around the world from the Prime Meridian that is the base reference longitude for UTC.
Thus, in standard notation this is:
GMT/UTC−12:00 hour
Daylight Saving Time: DST is not applied, nor applicable” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anywhere_on_Earth
That was interesting facts Trish. Are we now 15 minutes before AoE of June 1 ?? Did I get it right ?
Love Bosse
HaHa…I thought everyone would be freakin’ the f@@k out about this. I <3 Caleb and crew. Keep up the good work and make it so you want to share it. We will hold off the 'dogs'
Thx Cris, nice message! (Cris’s above message: vi aspetto tutti a braccia aperte, sarò la mia scelta, io sono.) Here’s what I got from the translator: I expect you all with open arms, I will be my choice, I am . (Grazie, Cris!)
hey guys,
can you give us some information regarding the project?
A comment on the status of Project XIII from any of the principals would be very much appreciated…
If Project XIII came out WITH I-UV Ixchange it wouldn’t matter to me if everything took a bit longer
Love & Light
I’d be happy with just project 13.
We need to be grateful for what we already have…and stop worrying about what may or may not be.
Let’s see, 1. We are FREE because we now KNOW what has always been true…..we are ONE and we are Unconditionally Loved.
2. The UCC filings only confirmed what was already Absolute Truth and put the World on Notice to that effect.
3. Because we are One, the value is our “energy” the measure of which is infinite…( we can exchange our energy,skills,talents,abilities,food,clothing,shelter,learning,Love & Imagination without the need of money at all.)
4. This transition is different and unique for each Embodiment what we are experiencing right now is New and exciting, and not completely understood yet.
5. Because money, has been so deeply ingrained into our thought process it is hard to see it for the control mechanism it really “IS” and most will suffer cognitive dissonance and withdrawal symptoms as a result of learning the Truth.
6. I think we need to understand our fellow Be’ings. will need to withdraw from this Drug gradually…..so with love and understanding let us assist and understand them.
7. We will all get there in due time, we just won’t all be taking the same route.
With Love and Gratitude to all.
THE MOST SANE THING I have read in AGES!
The Clarity is Effervescent - thank you, Michael.
“Learning to Be the I AM Presence That You Are”
“Learning to Be the I AM Presence That You Are”
Dear Ones, we wish to communicate with you about how you can find the peace and reassurance within yourselves to carry you through this time of difficulty which you may feel as delays in the Great Plan. We assure you this is not the case. All is moving forward, with the enlightenment of individual souls taking precedence in this transition time.
Those of you who have found it possible to cultivate patience at the same time you have looked inside yourselves to find greater strength and resourcefulness are obeying the requirements of Cosmic Law. Your own Mighty I Am Presence is the resource you are beginning to discover and rely upon as your source of Power and Light.
It has long been the mystery hiding in plain sight that each of you has the Power of Divine Presence within you; you do not require a priest or minister or even a mystic channeler to allow you to experience the glorious and unlimited Light which is available to you personally. You have forgotten or you have been deliberately distracted from your own Power by the centuries of enslavement under Dark ideas and Dark controls. It has been lost to your conscious minds that the chains which bind all of you to the mundane frustrations and limits of daily life are an illusion.
Yes, there are earthly prisons made of stone and mortar, and in the incarnated physical body one can be imprisoned there, but this is the end point of a long series of deceptions and manipulations of the minds of mankind. What if the masons and carpenters had refused to build the prisons in the first place? What if the judges and police had refused to acknowledge criminality but rather had established Mystery Schools to retrain and enlighten the offenders who had slipped from their natural path of Ascension? What if there were no armed police because the population refused to allow any human cruelty or mistreatment of even one of their members, from birth until their final completion of the Earthly incarnation?
The conflict, ill-will and destructiveness in the behavior of your fellow humans is the culmination of centuries of accumulated feelings of hatred and selfishness. These feelings, which have reached a peak in this civilization, are the impulses behind all forms of devastation and thoughtlessness on the planet. For instance, consider the environmental devastation which, with direct conscious connection to the Source of All That Is would be completely unthinkable.
The abominable treatment of animals, which are then used as food, has been a powerful tool in the spread of Darkness; people have been convinced that the consumption of great amounts of animal flesh which has previously been tortured in vile conditions and then killed for food is actually good for them. It has been one of the ways that Darkness has been literally consumed and digested into the cells of the human body, in direct contradiction to Divine Law.
The human body is designed to thrive on much smaller amounts of nutritious food than you are accustomed to - vegetables, grains, nuts and fruits grown naturally and with Love are sufficient to sustain a healthy existence. It is the use of food as an indulgence for the lowest sensory experience which brings with it the associated illnesses and malaise. The feeling of being stuffed to overflowing with the lowest vibrational substances - greasy fried starch, animal flesh and sugar - all produced in the presence of poisons and toxins, has created a culture of disease and death in the human mind and body.
We have often tried in these pages to illustrate as vividly as possible how far you have strayed from the life of Light which is available to every single one of you. You believe that your world is incapable of rising out of its dark doldrums without the intervention of God and the Ascended Masters, who will “rescue” you from the habits of the past. This is not true. It is within your power to return to a life of glorious Communion with Divine Light even if no one else ever offered you a single moment of assistance other than to teach you these Universal Principles.
We are not suggesting that we would deprive you of assistance. We are currently sending you help in the form of Masters who teach the True Way and the joyful life of mastery, creativity and wellbeing which is possible when you recognize the Power Within. This, of course, is the Ascension process in action.
Let us explain: Many of you are under the impression that the changes which will be brought about by Disclosure, uncloaking of the ships, and sharing of advanced technology will overlay or impose conditions on Planet Earth which will recreate the Paradise in which you can then satisfy all your earthly appetites without the inconvenience of war, evil and death. This is not the goal, and will never become reality.
The goal of the Ascension process is to establish a new environment in which each individual soul may at last come into the responsibility and realization of the Mastery and Power of their own I AM Presence. By removing the Dark Entities who have created the self-hatred and hatred of all that is Love and Light, we intend to “clear the decks” for a new phase of elevated learning for our Earth Children.
This plan does not include the experience of Heaven which you have been introduced to by many of your popular religions: idly sitting on a cloud, surrounded by sexually attractive virgins and massive amounts of food while angels sing and play harps, or simply sitting idly watching the show that is life on the planet below. Of course, this is a caricature of the popular teachings, exaggerated to point out the elements of sensory indulgence which again appear as a seductive allure.
Do you see how you have been misdirected from the joy of being One with God to the seduction of believing in the indulgence of bodily sensations? We are not suggesting asceticism or imposed deprivation - this is no different from indulgence in its incessant focus on bodily functions. We are trying to point you in the direction of the Forgotten Promise which offers you all participation in Unconditional and Unlimited Divine Love. What could be better than that?
Would you really trade unlimited amounts of alcohol, “recreational” drugs, sex, cigarettes, Twinkies and hamburgers for the experience of Ascension into the glorious embrace of your Cosmic family of Light and Love? Would a megamansion really replace your soul’s hunger to reside in a Crystal Palace of Light where your own efforts to achieve complete consciousness lift you out of the mundane struggle to join with your own Twin Flame in the experience of unfathomable Love?
We understand that you have not been properly introduced to the glories of life in the higher realms which are available to all of you. In fact, the effort has been to turn your eyes away from the ever-present call of your Higher Self which awaits your simple attention and commitment to raising yourself up to the potential that is yours. We will work with you here to offer further lessons, and we will ask Kathryn to teach these principles and techniques in her workshops. Begin with the following practice:
Turn your eyes upward, Dear Ones, to connect your inner knowing with the energy and power that is yours if you will only receive it. Allow the warmth and acceptance of Unconditional Love to flow down through your center channel from your own I Am Presence which resides above you, like your own fountain of Life which will nourish and sustain your Vitality, Power and Creativity. You, yes you, are forever connected to the Source of Unlimited Power and Joy if you only turn your efforts to fulfilling the promise of Perfection of which you are capable.
Is the challenge we present to you easy to achieve? Is your current life of pain and conflict easy? Would you continue to choose it and perpetuate it if you truly understood the glorious alternative that life in the God Presence offers? Beyond the words we offer you here in the paltry form of intellectual communication these messages allow, we also send the energy of Love to wash over you, to awaken you in peace and clarity to the excitement that awaits you in higher vibrational realms. It is here, between the lines, placed here for your enjoyment and illumination.
This month we will also send unlimited energies of nourishment and Unconditional Love to heal and support you in your decision - to be or not to be? We invite you to embrace the I Am Presence which is your birthright. You will never regret belonging to the Higher Realms and working to lift yourself ever higher into the Light of Oneness which is your destiny.
Hi there Deborah!
Who the heck is the “we” you refer to when stating “…we wish to communicate with you…”, and “…we understand…”, etc.?
Re: your comments about dietary intake, it would then follow that the veggievores among us are all living lives on a plane that is superior to the omnivores among us, to say nothing of non-smokers existing on a plane that smokers simply could not even conceive of.
Only someone that thinks of themself as having an omniscient vantage point of the entirety of life on earth would consider making statements such as “This plan does not include the experience of Heaven which you have been introduced to by many of your popular religions: …”.
Hey, Deb, I can’t speak for others, but I don’t consider whatever your version of “the plan” is to be my version of any plan whatsoever, and what my experience of heaven includes/excludes is not up to anyone to determine for me. I’m not one to go for the megamansion, but what’s so great about a crystal palace? I guess readers are supposed to be swayed to believe that your version of a palace is better than their version of a palace. I’ve never really been keen on the idea of virgins hanging around, but def bring on the sexually attractive females. The way I figure it, bodily sensations come along with the deal when a soul gets connected to a body. BTW, are you a brunette?
My destiny here is to determine my destiny here.
XOXO — David
I have the sense of dependency checking and rechecking this page for new news. As if my destiny is in the hands of another or the release of this coming software…It is not…I am responsible for my thoughts beliefs and actions. I’ve been thinking about this for the last 30 minutes, what if there were no iPages…(not saying there won’t be) but if there wasn’t one coming, what would we/I be doing instead of checking when this ship arrives…iPages is an added bonus to what we already have and I’m struggling to actually know this. I’ve been trying to grasp the concept of how we transition to something different and I feel limited sometimes. Stuck in my own limited perceptions of what is possible. All this thinking lead me to say…NO EXPECTATIONS! Follow my intuition and my heart and all will be as it is. My heart wants to figure out a way to make sure those with out get the tools they need. I’m an IT consultant and am willing to fix old computers if needed and send them out to those in need.
http://lucas2012infos.wordpress.com/2013/06/02/removingtheshackles-updates-from-morocco-life-the-rv-and-everything-2-june-2013/#comment-23709
2 June 2024
American Kabuki interviews Caleb Skinner about Project 13,
Project XIII founder Caleb Skinner discusses the design philosophy behind Project XIII and how he based the design on Issac Asimov’s 3 laws of robotics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ddZT-2a3gE
Yup, a new social network ala Diaspora (https://joindiaspora.com), the free, donation based social network which does not sell your data. Except, Project 13 is not free. Here, Caleb say that the ‘app is free, but we charge for the user to access their own content’. Now, can that be called to ‘own’ your own data, if you have to pay to access it?
He justifies it by referencing to Facebook and other social networks that live from ads and selling the user demographic data. Since Project 13 is not going to sell this data or sell ads, they are in their right to charge the user for accessing their data. And he needs 20.000 users to get this off the ground. Basically, he’s using the followers of the OPPT as an asset in his own business.
And, of course, this has nothing to do with ‘accessing your value’ in terms of getting money, funds, ‘UV currency’ or the like. It’s rather, ‘he is accessing HIS “value” through gullible people thinking they need Project 13, and want to pay him for this’. If he made it donation based, I would have looked at it. But the way he describes it, count me out. But good luck to him!
I suggest forgetting Project 13 (well, do what you want with it of course), and focus on getting the OPPT claims verified by competent third parties. So far I haven’t seen any valid confirmation by any reliable competent sources. For me to actually use it towards a bank or any official, I want it confirmed.
The value in the OPPT/I-UV lies, at least for me, in the actual registrations they have done, if they can and will be confirmed, that is. If anyone has any proper confirmations by competent people of their claims, let me know!
In any case, as always, my value is within me, as it has always been.
I totally respect where you stand on this Harald. You are not going to be alone.
My thinking is:
A What is there to gain from this ?
If it all roll out as planned, massive ! Let me say, the money part of it is not that important to me.
B What is there to loose ?
12 bucks is my choice
Some ridiculance from my friends and relatives that I have informed about it
I go for B. See who gets the most benfit
Cheers Harald
Stay cool
I can tell you this much…..I personally contacted the Washington DC registry to verify the filings, and they were filed accordingly.
I never requested a complete copy of those filings but was told I could have them, no matter the number of pages for $4 ea. So far I have relied on the OPPT web site to read the actual content…..but as I said, the UCC File numbers and recording dates do check out with the Government source as being officially and duly recorded.
Anyone can get an official copy, by paying the four bucks per copy to confirm the content within those documents. Otherwise you only get access to the Index and filing dates.
Maybe it would be a good investment.
It looks good to me. Why can’t we get copies the Foreclosure Notices and present them directly to purported public officials and ask them point-blank do these filings negate your authority or not?
And demand a official written reply…..if it is not in writing, it did not happen.
Love & Peace ……Love Truth….for we shall know it and shall make us Free!
Yep. May launch this week or next. Not firm. Looks like it will be just a secure email or forum app at this point. He said he needs 20,000 subscribers to get enough money coming in for them to develop it any farther.
We have a I.T expert in out meeting group who says he has server space for free. So it shouldn’t cost anything or indeed people would not be charged. Is that not a solution to a simple problem?
Until people learn what it truly valuable, everything in the world shoud be one unit of money exchange.
What happens when people are so used to being fed, is that they continue to want a feeder.
People don’t appreciates what is given freely - yet.
Read: “The Glass Cupboard”, by Terry Jones
Namaste
I think Heather and Caleb are on different levels about this thing. Heather seems to think it is some new “5D” energy transfer platform. Caleb seemed pretty casual about the whole thing. Just seems like he is trying to find a way to make a buck. Twenty thousand buck a month, initially, it seems.
A great interview. Thank you for conveying things in a clear and concise way. It’s clearly a huge undertaking and if any doubters can’t hear the sincerity and pure intent of Caleb…. I’m really excited for this release. All good things come to those who wait and all that…
Dear Brothers and Sisters,
everything that happens now is soo big, so incredibly large.
Let’s not go into so much ego to us.
We are right in the face of time is important.
It is about our true, free being.
Deep thanks to all protectors and helpers………………….
Peace - to be free - love
Liebe Brüder und Schwestern,
alles, was jetzt geschieht ist soo groß, so unfassbar groß.
Lasst uns nicht so sehr ins Ego gehen.
Wir sind mitten im Wandel und das ist wichtig.
Es geht um unser wahres, freies Sein.
Tiefen Dank an alle Schützer und Helfer
Frieden - Frei sein - Liebe
Thank you so much for posting an update about Project XIII. It does really help to have a clue about what is happening. I listened to the YouTube interview of Caleb by American Kabuki and it was very helpful to hear Caleb’s perspective. He didn’t say exactly who was causing the hold up or why but he is expecting the launch to happen in the next week or two. At the top of this web page it is now said to be ready to launch tomorrow… Phew, it’s a bit like being pregnant and waiting for the water to break. Only good things will follow the wait! Thank you Caleb for taking the time to tell us what’s happening and thank you Obi-wan Kabuki for doing the interview. It is very much appreciated!
Hello
Is there any date for the launch the I-UV exchange ?
Did I understand correctly that it will only be available on the iPhone initially? Computers to come later?
I listened to the interview with Caleb and I will be the first to say he sounds like a good hearted person, who felt ethically pushed to do something due to his dissatisfaction with Facebook, and kudos to him for doing so. What I did notice as well though is this is very much a business venture as he referred to his company a number of times and the number of subscribers needed, etc, even delving into the possibility of selling particular subscriber information if subscribers were ok with it, at American Kabuki’s proposition on that question. Yes he did state he would be very wary about doing so but honestly, my spider sense was ok this is a good kid who wants to do something amazing and awesome and in addition grow his company.
Nothing wrong with that in and of itself. Where my eyebrows do go up that this young man is with Heather and the gang in Africa and wait just a minute….why is it important to grow the company and financially charge for it for further development if the I/UV exchange is to kick in shortly there after and as Heather said everyone would have their money or value in their account and could transfer it if they wanted to whatever currencies currently exist. I know because I listen for 2.5 hours to the latest show where she stated that.
Something is just not adding up for me here. My hunch is that the ‘value’ is not available in hard currencies or assets but that it will be a barter system of I’ll do a. for you and you can return it with b. Nothing saying there is anything wrong with that either. However, it isn’t exactly what has been communicated in data via the shows, etc. When people questioned this both Lisa Harrison and Heather at times during various shows seemed a little irritated, I get it, us people with no vision, etc. And Heather made it clear when the I/UV exchange came online the value would be there.
So my lingering questions are, is there actually any value or a made up ‘let’s say this is a value’ and it’s up the individual to find willing people to barter for what they can offer, or am I correct in understanding the value of 10 billion or 5 billion or whatever would be accessible and exchangable to the value of choice of the person via the I/UV exchange. And if so, how does this tie in with Caleb’s social networking secure site and his company? I mean, if we are all shortly to have access to this value which is inherently ours anyway, wouldn’t Caleb and his partners have more than enough value to upgrade and expand the network they are consciously trying to build? Furthermore exactly how long is it until the I/UV exchange will be up and available as from what I’m getting Caleb needs hard fiat cash to finance his site at this point.
I don’t doubt Caleb is a good person nor do I doubt he has good intentions, I just can also see intentions for a corporate or company success which has me a bit baffled as to why people are seeing it as some never done before thing as it’s already been pointed out it has, the only difference is that this particular project is being promoted via the One people movement and the I/UV exchange and I really think it should be viewed as a seperate tool as stated in the article. Too many people are thinking this is a gateway to the end of their problems on a three D level due to it’s close association with the I/UV. And if Caleb needs financial assistance to get it up and running, I don’t have an issue with that, but to me it does speak volumes about the I/UV and when that will happen and what it will look like. That being said, I wish the best to him and his crew with their network and I’m just left with more questions that I originally had.
Very valid points Lisa, think someone from the team should address them!! Steve.
I agree. These ARE VERY good questions which many are asking…
I do think that the make or break of this project, as perhaps with any future project where someone asks any kind of money, will be Transparency. In other words, how much is made at any given time with the product and how much is spent, and on what is it spent?
If income and expenditures are handled openly, and make sense to the greater community, then I can see it working.
So for now, i am more than happy to give the P13 team the benefit of the doubt…
As for the I/UV stuff, well I guess it will only kick in once a sufficient size of the human collective accepts this as the new way of doing things… until then, we are stuck in fiat land…
I don’t understand the point of the obfuscation. I develop Xcode apps and as part of the submission process YOU set the date the app will publish. The whole process is automated, so I don’t understand why Caleb didn’t seem in the interview to know exactly when the app would publish in the app store. It’s all very confusing.
What I thought I heard Caleb mention briefly in the interview with A.K was that it was something to do with the credit card facility that he was waiting on to be finalised - whether that was with Paypal or not I don’t know.
Sharyn, I set this stuff up all the time for clients. It’s all automated and dead simple these days. Besides, to test the system, he would have had to set up the credit card and Paypal stuff well ahead of launch. And he said in an interview that he had put it through an extensive testing process. Caleb is not being transparent.
John, don’t forget that you are setting it up in cooperation with the existing banking and finance system. I believe that this is something different.
Caleb said he is using the Apple App store and Paypal. Both of those require real world, foreclosed corporation, bank accounts. Believe what you like.
All,
I wish people would show some patience for what I feel ( I could be completely wrong for this speculation ) has likely been a much bigger project than was originally anticipated. If it was I creating something ( which I have not done albeit not software ) I for one would rather wait till something is right rather than disappoint with a less than satisfactory product ( It took me over 10 years for a simple item )…
I can’t wait for the day the full stories come out on what it has taken to get to this point of the UCC Filings being done, the I-UV Webpage up and live, the many other intricacies along the way and now Project XIII. I’m sure so much more work has gone on than is being let on with likely many personal sacrifices to assist and benefit all.
Seriously, If nothing else comes to pass, The OPPT movement has woken many up to question our current global predicaments and managed to rally the troops into awareness and for that I am eternally grateful.
My sincerest gratitude to not only the original trustees but all that are BEing and DOing to use the ” Heatherisms “..
Well done all !!
As a former Business Manager transitioned to Senior Programmer/Analyst, I find the Project 13 method of release totally backward. While there is an urgency to create a secure system, there is also the requirement to have the website and processes in place before hand.
I agree that the younger generations catch on much more quickly than my generation, there are still multitudes of people who will not. My beef with programmers since day one is that they want their programs out there but fail to provide the documentation and operating instructions before releasing and thus cause significant confusion and frustration.
Don’t get me wrong. I have much respect for coders. It has been my career-long experience that they know the system as a result of creation and much discussion around the design and development, but when it comes to showing other people, they forget the users lack the knowledge to read between the lines.
It appears in the case of Project 13, there is no project management. I certainly hope Project 13 has a call centre to field the questions and complaints.
This is from the http://www.activistpost.com/ website regarding Agenda 21.
Mobile finance and tracking, including programs rolled out across the developing world, such as M-PESA, and the ‘Better Than Cash Alliance’. Can we use our P2P Power to set up truly grassroots local currencies which commit to enabling truly anonymous transactions, without measuring ‘giving’ or ‘having’? (Community currencies tend to be based on measures of qualities such as ‘social value’ and ‘reputation capital’, which exclude those who are unable to give, or do not have).
I think we need clarification on whether these stated aims by I UV are in line with the aims of TPTB/W and whether there is any connection with these stated aims.
I don’t know y’all. It seems to me there is a lot of doubting and lack of trust which I certainly understand. I too have a hard time with trust but not as a result of what these folks are attempting to do, but because of the suffering endured in this life time. I’ve listened to all of the interviews with Caleb and Heather and even Randall. Heather and Caleb are certainly very different but both come from a pure intent. You know I’ve wondered how this thing would even get off the ground…there is a lot that the PTW could and possibly have attempted to do to prevent it from happening. Caleb and his crew were sick and hopefully fully recovered now. There are people on here presenting negativity that haven’t completely accepted the information and have little faith in the documents…haven’t sent a courtesy notice…basically haven’t done anything to attempt and claim their freedom…waiting for the money to claim their freedom. Heather is always saying imagine absent limits and then go DO and BE and I understand. We are free! We can manifest what we need and even what we want but it requires faith and oh that trust word again. I struggle with it and yet I’ve sent my courtesy notices…I’ve stopped paying all things non essential. I’m committed…no turning back now. Chase came and took my vehicle, but I basically let them. I filed my cn to them, but when I went to do that they were not giving out names and would not even give out a fax number. So funny…I knew they knew. Why else would they refuse to give out such information? I prepared myself…I went and bought a cheap used car that gets me from point A to point B $1500.00 so as a result I have cheaper insurance, cheaper gas and all in all in a better financial situation as a result. I had already made up my mind that I would NOT do business with one of the “four horsemen” which Chase is one of. Wells Fargo holds the mortgage on my house and they are another of the “four horsemen”. I did not buy my house from them..they bought my loan. I’ve also sent a cn to them and I’ve not been paying for several months and haven’t received an eviction notice yet, but I too have prepared myself for that possibility. The four horsemen consist of Wells Fargo, Morgan Stanley Chase, Citi Bank and Bank of America…they also own Chevron, Exxon, Shell and BP. I refuse to buy their gas as well. Now I will admit that it would be sooo much easier if our so called government would just go ahead and come out with announcements release all the debt etc. and certainly would be easier with $10 billion dollars, but even without any of that I had made up my mind that I wanted out of the rat race…I remember the fear of accepting the number of the beast in revelations (atleast my understanding of it) and for me when I found all of this out and understood what was going on that if I continued to pay into the machine it would somehow be damming to my soul. I could not bring myself to do it once I was truly aware. Judge Dale has offered so much information about the system and how it works..I read all I can from him. The OPPT site Malaysia has great information from Judge Dale explaining the straw man accounts and how the legal system works and how you can beat it. This information was available to use long before the OPPT, but we didn’t know about it. What the OPPT did was make us aware and provide the documents making it easier for all of us….because again they have opened the gate….GO CLAIM YOUR FREEDOM!!!! LOVE YOU ALL!!!!
Thank you for this. My faith is in MYSELF and at this point it’s unwavering. I agree with you - it’s an energetic thing first and foremost, just the bold act of claiming your freedom. Everything stemming from that is icing on the cake, really, but I remain optimistic about the future - all our futures.
Bravo! Thanks for the love. And I’m sending some right back to you!
Woooohooo!! I love you tonia lol
Wow, Tonia, I am impressed. You obviously live in the States as I understand from what you write. It is very inspiring to read. I totally get that when you are in a pressed situation like many in the US, you would go for it and use the OPPT for what it’s worth.
But again, there are so many questions. To me, this is not about Project 13 anymore. Or money. As far as I have understood it, The Trust has been foreclosed as well, by the One People. Thus, there are no money in the trust anymore, since it doesn’t exist. The ‘Public Trust’ in the ‘One People’s Public Trust’ is gone. ‘OPPT’ is now only ‘OP’, The One People. (Maybe ‘TOP’, would have been a better acronym…
) And the ‘UV exchange’ is so loosely defined that it can be anything; a gift economy, an ‘energy exchange’, a resource based economy, or yet another monetary economy, which I of course hope not.
Still, if all the registrations have done what they say they have done (I’m not doubting it, only analyzing), are ALL corporations gone? ALL ownership? Everywhere?
I can find ‘Kingdom of Sweden’ among the registered ‘foreign governments’ in the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (http://www.sec.gov), but not ‘Kingdom of Norway’ or ‘Kingdom of Denmark’, for that matter, among several other countries. So, there are many countries that are not registered in the SEC. Or, are they registered as something else?
I can see the point that if the US government, the Fed and many other countries, corporations and big banks are foreclosed, so will the governments, corporations and banks connected to them also be. If the Fed is gone, the US Dollar is gone, and thus the basis for all the world’s trade.
Still, who owns anything anymore? No one? How shall we conduct ourselves now? If you own a couple of apartments, and rent out one of them, if you are on ‘the other side’ so to speak, what to do now? Wait until the tenants discover the OP and refuse to pay you? Or shall you simply give up the apartments you don’t use. Do you have any right to throw them out if they don’t pay? Do the owner of the apartments still own her apartments?
The ramifications of this is so extremely huge that it is hard to fathom. Who owns what now? How to conduct ourselves? Who will rule? Who will make decisions? Will we go on with money, or without money? Will we continue to buy and sell to each other, or will we simply start to share? Shall we create a new system? A new kind of ‘common government’? Or just ‘play it by ear’? Just ‘BE’ and ‘DO’?
I love what you have done Tonia. I am looking forward to more and more people doing it. But this whole thing must also be seen from the other side. If you are rich and own a lot, what do you do now? Just give it all up? What about all the resources? All the land? The food? How to share it? How to distribute it? With money, as we have done for millennia, or with another method? Simply give to the needy what they need?
No more competition? No more stress of ‘getting ahead’? Can we shed our old habits of buying, selling and hoarding? Can we rest in the knowledge that there is more than enough for all of us, and when we put our minds and hearts into it, we can create an unprecedented abundance for all of us? Even the former ‘rich’?
I don’t know. This whole thing is very confusing. But in a good way.
Those are a lot of questions Harold that I certainly don’t have all the answers to. Good questions….thank you for presenting them here because I feel that we all need to be asking ourselves those questions and determining how we would like to see them answered as we move forward. I will say that I don’t see anyone being stripped of their properties or the items that they currently own unless ofcourse an individual is one of the perpetrators of the slavery system. I can speak for myself and say that I would certainly honor any arrangement that I made with an individual such as a landlord because it’s about standing in transparency and full liability for my actions and choices. I believe in “common law” which is to say if I harm someone then I rectify it. It’s my responsibility to do so. I do believe that there will be businesses as we go forward that will also be based on transparency and the betterment of all of us instead of those that would harvest our energy. I also believe that we will reach a point where money will no longer be necessary as we will all live in service of ourselves and others and a simple sincere thank you will be payment enough. That being said I would like to Thank You all for sharing your thoughts, feelings and sending me love too! BTW…have you all submitted your Declarations of Freedom? I enjoy watching the numbers climb!!
and I know for me there was something liberating about taking that step. Have a great day!!
So still nothing new under the sun in regards to Project XIII and oppt? I’m becoming doubtful. In other situations, this could very well look like a scam. So have we been lied to? Or is there actually work being done?
I’m getting very impatient.
http://www.projectxiii.com/
I have faith in Caleb, Heather and all people who have created this energy. Why anyone would doubt is no longer within my resonance. These are decent , love filled beings of light who feel the suffering of others and took the steps to end that. I am going with the flow and at this time in HUE MAN history I do not think deception is being served by any of these people. I give ALL my LOVE and energy to the OPPT . It took great courage and resolve to be able to see this created but they did it. Thankyou beloveds. Your service to HUE MANITY is honourable. Blessings
Here, here!
We are waiting for such changes for eons. What if some added days of patience is needed ? Its nothing. I wish to be able to help the ones who are working right now on making things go right. I am impatient as well but in a positive way only.
It is pretty mind blowing to say the least to see people still waiting and supporting and donating to this and moroccan holidays when they are being asked for fiat currency that they have been told has all been foreclosed on!!!! D has been saying for months that a new currency is coming and then in another breath she is also talking about accessing your own value!!!!! Can you no longer put 2 and 2 together and make 4 instead of purring 2 and 2 together and making star-light, imaginary sources of value that you are suddenly going to be able to access on your i-phones to buy anything you want. A few weeks ago they attempted to tell you that money is not the issue, Heather almost shouted at Lisa about money was not important!!!!!! They are creating illusion every moment even between themselves and yet you still wait and follow…………………………………
What I would like to see made available is a list of Corporation that are not connected to the Cabal. A comment earlier suggested that we boycott certain businesses and corporations, not a bad idea but I seriously doubt that we are going to buy gas and oil outside the Cabal. I haven’t needed medicinal drugs for quite a few years but if I did, where would I go outside the dark. The computer guys that connected the dots on the corporation ownership should be able to give us an alternative.
PS….Linda, why are you here? If you leave, should I follow you?
These ppl have put their time and energy for free to help humanity, and ppl r complaining about a dollar? But will give the PTW thousands, being robbed and not saying a word. And now got the nerve to complain about a dollar, ungrateful. Thanks guys, much love!
In the interests of being transparent, from a personal viewpoint I’d like to quickly explain why I appear as ‘ye of little faith’ or ‘the annoying negative lady, asking annoying questions’ to some of you perhaps. I grew up as a Jehovah’s Witness, which if you don’t know is a fundamentalist christian sect or cult (my opinion) started by a Charles Taze Russell a free mason, go figure. I was born into it, indoctrinated with it my entire life, convinced that anyone outside of it was ‘worldly’ and not following the bible correctly yada yada. Point being, one of their fundamental teachings is the New Order in which Jesus comes back and kicks butt and destroys all the evil doers, code for anyone outside the religion pretty much. I remember hearing I would never complete elementry because ‘the new system would be here’, I’d never graduate high school, because ‘the new system would be here’, all while promised eternal life in a paradise earth with no murder, no hunger, etc.
Now everytime something major happened in the world, for example a war, it was a sure sign, the end was nigh and our promised utopia was almost here. As an adult I not only woke up to the fallacies of it’s teachings and exited the cult, (losing all my life long spiritually superior friends I might add) I woke up to who I really was. I realized that KNOWING and following are two very different things and that any information should always be measured by your internal self devoid of fear of the outcome. Meaning if you are attached to believing something wholeheartedly you will not examine it against your own knowing because that’s scary, you might not like what you find.
Heather, Caleb, Randall, the other Lisa and Dee, have all done their questioning, which others may have found negative or wrong at the time. Still they pressed on with what they KNEW for them. I absolutely believe it’s my right to do the same with information I’m being told. I chose to have faith in that which I know, for instance, I know my space family is around because I see them in my skies, they do a little show for me if you will, if they are around and I telepathically connect with them, they will show up. This is a knowing deep with me. While I am not suggesting at all in any way that there is any nefarious plan with regard to Project 13 or the I/UV xchange, I have what I feel are valid questions and until those answers are provided I reserve the right to continue to question. I know the danger of not doing so on a very personal level.
While it’s fine to say set yourself free, manifest the future you want, the reality in my KNOWING is that manifestation doesn’t quite work smoothly if you are pushed and pulled by the manifestation of 7 other billion people on the planet. Which is why we can’t just manifest money trees in our backyards..would be cool though. The reason that the spread of information or data is so important is that people can chose to change what they manifest as a collective (much more rocket power if you will) if they have all the data. I believe this is exactly what Heather has spoken to many times and I am on the same page with that.
It’s counterproductive to not want anyone to ask questions because in doing so you are stifling the free flow of information or data and disabling free will ability to BE and DO by telling others you gotta BE and DO how I BE and DO or you aren’t ‘at my frequency’, really? I mean are we going to come to that as a species, exchange religious superiority complexes for frequencies complexes? Is that creating unity or creating division? I don’t think it takes a genius to figure that one out. I have not said in any comments that anyone shouldn’t believe or have faith in whatever they chose to, I have a vested energetic interest in how this plays out, as do you all. But to insinuate that I don’t have faith or that others don’t have faith or obviously aren’t at the spiritual level you are, sigh..if everyone thought that way, no change would ever occur, just more pious pandering.
Not all of us are in the same situation where we can just up and say I am getting out of the system, apparently Caleb is not at that point either, hence the need for fiat money. I can understand that, I have bills to pay that don’t just manifest a paid stamp if I meditate on them. All I would like is transparency and answers to help me to process the data in a way that will facilitate my knowing. Thank you.
“I mean are we going to come to that as a species, exchange religious superiority complexes for frequencies complexes?” ~ a beautiful point. x
Maybe this is the reason:
Benjamin Fulford June 3, 2024
There are also 11 members of the One People’s Public Trust, the people behind the so-called galactics pushing for their version of a new financial system
[Not sure what happened here between these two sentences... I've looked at two versions and they are slight changes - Looks like something was changed. Just saying. Angel].
on the run from both hitmen and law enforcement agents in Ethiopia, according to a CIA source. A senior Italian P2 Lodge member says the people in Ethiopia are there in an effort to find the “original Ark of the Covenant.” At least both sides agree that there is some form of high level intrigue going on in Ethiopia of all places. We will try to find out more next week.
I couldn’t help but chuckle when I read this earlier on another site. So much incorrect info, LOL, obviously done with a purpose in mind.
Anyone who has been following the conversations / radio shows know that several of the ONE PEOPLE ( the OPPT Trust was foreclosed on along with all other trusts after it had done its job) are all currently residing in Morocco to work together on various projects, including the IUV Ixchange, not Ethiopia. Ethiopia is on the other side of the country, so not even remotely close!
And they are trying so hard to hide that they announce they are in Morocco, Tangiers to be precise, in every conversation on air in the radio shows each week, write blogs & post them with photos of where they are staying & post photos of themselves out & about in Morocco.
Heather has freely made her phone number & skype name available on air for those who want to contact her - so, yes, she is certainly hiding herself away.
What I do not understand is how D and Brian were asking for donations several weeks ago to buy a computer and now they are sitting pretty in Morocco …..??
Heather and Caleb take care of their own wouldn’t you say ?? D packed up and flew her whole family to Morrocco…?? Something is fishy
Hey lisa with a small “l”, glad u were able to find u’r own pathway. It brings to mind that there are so many people out there who haven’t had the opportunity to discover themselves yet, but would under the right conditions. That’s not generally an easy task or a quick one either, unless u’r initially blessed with a home situation that allows freedom of thought (either on purpose or by default). Probably why this site isn’t overrun as yet. So I guess that makes all the folks here forerunners of sorts who will each decide whether s/he wants to carry forward tools and information that could free up a lot of people now caught in the thought-traps to which they have become accustomed. I look forward to the UV Ix(Ex?)change especially for that reason. I don’t think any of us would be commenting on this site if we weren’t all looking for the bottom line. Let’s face it, I and a lot of these other folks wouldn’t have bothered to search either oppt-in.com or i-uv.com. One reason I love surfing cyberspace is all the outlooks. I recall wondering way back when what life was all about in terms of what made things happen in society the way they did. In the 90′s I finally started uncovering a few things that made some sense. Since then, this appears to me the first “movement” so to speak that came about in an observably natural progression. All anyone can do is follow what occurs and see where it goes. It’s that “outcome” thing that trips people up sometimes, though. Yeah it’s an amazing idea whose time has come, but we just have to be all right with whatever happens. No regrets. Nothing wrong with an attitude of gratitude, nothing wrong with asking a lot of questions. With all the forthcoming information on this site, it would be very difficult, in my view, to make the assessment that this is not going in a good direction. I’m very grateful this was not a pre-fab all’s ya’ gotta do is sign on the dotted line kind of gathering because if they’re making it up as they go along, that, to me, has to be infinitely better than having all the answers. I’m relieved they don’t purport to have all the answers up front. Most groups offering something for public consumption or consideration do purport to have all the answers. I view this situation as more a cooperative effort than a ready-made panacea. I’ve paid for lots of ready-made so-called panaceas in my time, but none of them were anything like this. Believe me, it’s much better to see the “warts” if there are any, up front, so to speak. I have tech people in my immediate family and they’re always behind getting things done. It’s just part of the territory. There again, outcome. So what? No biggie. I went through my kitchen drawers and cupboards a few weeks back and came up with about $10 in change. (Don’t have a couch.) From tossing pennies, nickels, dimes into various handy recesses without thinking, just in a hurry. Don’t want the grandbabies to eat them when they visit. If we all pretended that $12 was a feather we found on the ground somewhere, it would have a much lighter effect on our reactionary brains no doubt. Also, thinking about what’s really fair, someone brings something to me of value that they labored over, I feel it actually would not be fair at all to simply expect that something to be totally gratis. Given the dedication to getting the job done exhibited so far by this group, and given the nature of the “job” itself, wow, this entire situation is unprecedented. Personally, I feel the charge issue is irrelevant b/c it’s not unwarranted, esp. if more tech tools are coming down the pike, and especially given the unprecedented situation and the immensity of it. (what’s a pike, anybody?) Not to discourage discourse, but when I see people getting their knickers all knotted up in advance of something this gargantuanly (is that word?) unique and spontaneous, it just doesn’t make sense to me, except from an individual point of worry. Just sorry for the individual worrying, people are having hard times out there. Hang in there folks. The fact that it’s happening at all bodes well.
Pike Origin:
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b. a road on which a turnpike was operated
2. an obsolete word for turnstile [1]
3. (Engineering / Civil Engineering) US a motorway for use of which a toll is charged
[from turn + pike2]
I think the $1 / month is reasonable if it is meant to pay for the development. If there are 500 000 users, that is $500 000 / month for Caleb and his team to get development done. I have no problems with that. However if there are the kinds of user count that FB or other social networks have this means waaayyyy more income / month to Caleb and co… And at that point I will certainly raise an eyebrow… simply because the economic value of their service will be misrepresented. At such a point my suggestion will be that the development team put forward a liberal budget, with liberal bonuses built in for Caleb for his initiative, and have the community share the cost of the budget… my 5 cents on the $1 issue
Just because Caleb et al is providing a service designed to ultimately change the way we operate in and interact with the world, just because it is meant to ultimately wean us off the way we currently perceive value it doesn’t follow that he should be expected to do it for ‘free’. I think people are perceiving this is in a way that doesn’t make sense. Even in the Golden Age people will still do what they love, still share with other people and still feel entitled to get an energy exchange for their service. It’s flow, it’s vital - it will always be that way. if one doesn’t see the service as valuable then one doesn’t pay for it. if one feels the energy exchange is fair and equitable then one will be happy to ‘pay’. We are not yet at the point where we have weaned ourselves off the old ways of doing business, and there’s nothing wrong with that - we need to get there in an organic way, taking as many with us as we can. And in order to get there it is still necessary to use ‘old’ tools. I don’t see anything wrong with that. It doesn’t mean that the old tools are indicative of the nature of the experience one will have with the new entity created with the aid of said old tools. But we have to get there and practically, if this is the most pragmatic and efficient way to get there, then I see no problem.
From the call last night, Project XIII seems to be just a business venture for Caleb. He has signed some kind of contract with Heather’s husband related to the business, I would suspect to run credit cards and such through Heather’s husbands business accounts (from what I’ve seen, Caleb seems to be threatening the IRS through UCC filings, so he probably doesn’t want them to know that he has money coming in). That is, unfortunately, called money laundering, but if he stays in Morocco, he’s beyond the reach of U.S. law. P13 will launch at some point (apparently Caleb didn’t intend to launch on June 1 or June 3, don’t know where that information was coming from) on the iPhone, then computers in a few weeks. Basic platform without much functionality at this point. The call was helpful in sorting out the confusion.
Oh, and I agree with the poster above. For some reason folks who were very poor financially a few weeks ago seem to have lots of money now, what with flying the whole family to Morocco. Becoming “5D” is apparently profitable.
If you want to make accusations, that’s ok, we do need those in a transparent world, but then we have to be able to substantiate what we are saying… else it is called trolling / disinfo”… are you a troll / disinfo guy?
Listen to the call. Take the wide angle view. If Heather, her husband and Caleb actually have access to unlimited wealth (value), which Heather has claimed, why are they creating a business model designed to harvest FRN’s?
There is a difference between value on paper and value in reality. You seem to be confusing the two… at the moment the only people on the planet that has access to unlimited funding are those who own the banks. The (X)OPPT has the value on paper only… huge difference. As for what is being set up in Morocco, lets wait and see… thus far I have only seen very very VERY good things coming from Heather and Caleb, I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt… you however, have not clarified your motives… why are you so suspicious? What are your motives?
My “motive” is simple. I’ve been involved in seeking remedy for decades. There have been many fine sounding promises by many groups over those many years. None have delivered. None. So I’m very skeptical of any group promising remedy. As for your assertion, you’ve apparently not been listening to Heather since the beginning. She said she foreclosed on the banks, corporations and governments. She said she took all their money and put it somewhere for safe keeping. She said her intent was to return it to the one people. According to Heather, neither banks nor governments nor corporations have a penny. They are just pretending. If what Heather said is true, she has access and control over all the gold, silver and precious metals in the world. Cabel, as one of the original trustees, would have the same access. As for Morocco, I’ve seen nothing but talk come out of Morocco.
John,
You seem to cherry pick what you want out of what is reported on the show & use it for your own agenda.
In today’s show Brian, Bob & Mark Hoza were on the call from Morocco. I can’t remember who said it, maybe Brian & I’m going from memory paraphrasing here - that Heather had just written a 1 page (I think) 2 party contract / agreement in clear language as part of the first stage of the IUV ixchange. This is to replace all of the old ways of doing contracts used in the UCC etc.
No more corporations to hide behind etc. These 2 party agreements/contracts will be between person to person outlining their agreed “terms” to transact business etc with each other.
It was stated that Heather had written this one for her husband & Caleb - nothing else was mentioned.
It is a huge leap to then make the supposition that it could possibly be for Caleb to do something illegal & be involved in money laundering. You have absolutely NO basis for that comment & I have to wonder why you would even suggest that knowing how easily things are taken out of context & misinterpreted on pages like this.
We are now in the realm of self responsibility, self governance & being responsible for all of our own information & the information that we distribute about others so I find that your supposition re Caleb’s actiivities reflects more on you than on Caleb.
What radio show?
Trish,
Here’s the link http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thecollectiveimagination/2013/06/04/the-one-people-34-june-2013
THANK YOU! Tonia, for the help and care.
Sharyn, once again, why are people who have claimed to have access to unlimited wealth (value) creating a business model designed to harvest FRN’s?
Sharyn, if YOU had access to unlimited wealth, how much would you charge for the work you do for the good of humanity? And what kind of contract law is Heather creating? Who will enforce these contracts?
Hello People,. Ever since oppt came on the scene with ALL the Drama of Fear and Truth Manifesting in the Now. I have never heard anyone discussing the fact that we are FREE officially but not really MENTALLY and Spiritually, and what it really means. I cannot believe I am seeing and feeling petty Fear of individuals low vibrations of paying 1$ a month for the SERVICE provided by Caleb. Whats that all about? Remember a Fool and His Money are soon Parted. The more Money you have in Fear the MORE FEARFUL you WILL BE. Ask the FORCES THAT WERE right now. If you are not FREE from Within you are not really FREE. I manifested the OPPT and The partnership between the OPPT and Keshe Foundation before they happen in my consciousness.
Love Truth and Life
Time test only
Hi John, The answer to your own question is like the Invisible Elephant in the Room. “YOU” will enforce the contracts. That is your responsibility. The Courtesy Notices and Declaration of Freedom are an interim tool for you to use. Just Do it and stake YOUR claim to FREEDOM from the Slavery System. You will feel more empowered. With Absolute Love. PJ
The “One People” [meaning you and I] have the power to initiate our own value to the universe in what ever form that you choose. It is not decided by any external authority because YOU are the author of your own destiny. Love to all. PJ
The absolute data is within each of us. No external force is needed. That’s is the prime that OPPT is tyring to communicate with all those souls that look for guidance outside of there own mind body and soul. Love Ya all.
Well, once you understand that the entire financial system was based on us - our souls and our bodies - then the matter becomes quite clear – we are the value.
Now, if you see our souls as the gold and our bodies as the silver, and you read the filings and listen to the radio shows with this in mind, then you realize why heather said, that the gold was snatched away from under the noses of the powers that were, and whisked away to a safe place where they will never reach it again…
This safe place is our consciousness – our remembering self – knowing self and BE’ing self.
This cannot be reversed – it is the safest place there is.
Love to ALL your Eternal Hearts
Mikki
And what difference has that made in the 3D world? Most of us are not living in our heads. Billions are starving to death for lack of 3D food. What good, Mikki, is their “value” doing them? You folks are not living in the real world.
Thank you for your question John!
Well, these people are starving not because of lack of money to buy food. These people are starving because some of us who have not yet begun to know self, remember self and BE self feel, that we cannot share the plenty that we have without suffering lack ourselves. When we remember who we BE, then we will know that indeed, we will not suffer lack if we share, but ultimately will have more abundance, than we ever thought imaginable.
When you are everything, you have everything. When you are ALL, you have ALL.
Love
Mikki
100′s of thousands will die today. Will you help them today?
What?!! Help them die? THOUSANDS of them? What will you do to help thousands of people today John?
I guess that it is better not to charge the “rent” if the person does not use it during the month and no registration fee.
I am saying this will love and gratitude heather said last week that announcements would be made a “this week” on the collective imagination call (last weeks call ) No announcements were made. Caleb said that project 13 will be active on June 1 still not active Heather said in a Skype call that everyone will have $ 10 billion to start with their I page and it will be accessed through various tools including project 13 . Their are at least 10 to 15 members who flew to Morrocco in the past few weeks that could n’t afford computers and asked for contributions (D and Brian) it cost a lot of money to fly around the world and stay in Morrocco for several weeks (room and board ) Brian has told us he quit his job and has no income, but he flew to the Bahamas with his finance for a week then to Morrocco. Now I do not judge but am curious where this people are getting the funds ? Lisa has flown from Australia and has been in Morrocco for several weeks? Bob Wright is disabled with limited income and alledgely has asked for money through Skype and it was in his bank account within 1 hour? D packed up,her family and physically moved to Morrocco within 30 days? Where are these funds coming from unless Heather has given them the tools to access their value or sent her own funds? Lisa said that Heather has spent 1 million of her own funds on filing fees and investigating for OPPT ?.
I don’ t care about all these things but is Heather and Caleb withholding information that the priveged few have or do we have to use project 13 to access our value the flaunting of the few and their unlimited funds is very sad to us few that are scrapping by and just ask for complete transparency lets stop all the BS and tell us the truth NOw thank you
Yes, this is very troubling. Apparently an “elite” class of The One People have been created and they are partying in Morocco while others suffer.
These are important questions and, to date, as far as I am aware, no-one has been able to give a cohesive answer, yet if all is bona fide, these should be simple matters to clear up.
I just listened to the show - have to say I love the idea of the contract. It kind of made the whole ‘you are the value’ thing finally click into place. I really like that.
I also THINK I’m understanding what Caleb is doing a little better. It sounds like a very similar concept to the way cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin work (except those guy/s aka satoshi Nakamoto just went and developed the code and put it out there gratis - no one supposedly really knows who he/they are - but there are lots of rumours and conjecture as to his/their collective identities).
Anyway…you probably all already know, my understanding is….with Bitcoin/litecoin etc you download the client software and (which would be what project 13 potentially ‘equates’ to) and this acts as both a repository (your online ‘wallet’) and encryption platform for your bitcoin addresses - you can create one or unlimited bitcoin addresses which are essentially not dissimilar to a unique email signature - and a new one can be created for each and every transaction you ever make which is pretty cool. These (numerical) addresses are then encrypted so as to (in theory) be impenetrable and anonymous (there are def weaknesses despite users diligently following encryption protocols, however, and so i’m hoping Caleb’s system is solid in that respect).
You do really need to ensure you don’t lose your password for the main client as only you have access to that (which is what Brian, Mark and AK have discussed, hence why i’ve jumped on the bitcoin analogy). YOu can also keep a copy of your wallet offline, on a USB or hard drive, as well as use cloud technology to store online if you choose…the offline stuff is like a back-up, much like keeping it in safe. I’m guessing this may be how you can use your phone to store things…which was also discussed in the recent call…so you’ll essentially be storing a copy of your ‘wallet’ (or equivalent whatever the team call it) offline, on your phone.
I’m also guessing (heavily) where project 13 differs from crypto currency clients is that, where they currently offer just a pure transactional/storage capability (albeit expanding the bitcoin type functionality to include the transfer of anything which can be transmitted as data over the internet) he’s basically created something which has all the social platforming functionality of fb/myspace/ebay/etc etc. A ‘one stop shop’?
I could be very wrong, but it sounds like he may be pulling all these things into one ‘hub’, if you will, to allow us to interact socially and possibly also from the perspective maybe as a showcase in terms of our own personal storefront/portfolio/value etc which then also provides us with the tools/functionality to trade ‘our’ value as we perceive it, in whatever electronically transferable means of data we see fit, ie in a way that is not limited to fiat/cryptocurrencies. Even if we aren’t ‘trading’ as such, we can swap stuff as in traditional p2p platforms and as such, free of censorship and being watched…so the moral compass swings a bit potentially, but there ya go…that’s my take thus far…
So…i’m probably barking TOTALLY up the wrong tree,but seeing as Caleb specifically mentioned a ‘peer to peer’ transaction type platform in that interview previously..and from what the guys said on the last call in terms of API keys and secure, encryption etc….so that’s kind of where my brain is going with all this..techie folks care to elaborate?
Obviously this is just conjecture…i’m ‘having fun’ with all this…i’m not hanging on to everything these guys do as if my own life depended on it…but you know how people like to fill a vacuum : )
I still anticipate lots of exciting things, regardless of any wait or $1 charge, i think it will be a ‘cool’ thing to use. I will approach it like anything else in this regard, it’s not the answer to everything (and lord knows why people actually think they’re gonna get a lump sum of money given to them, I mean…seriously?????..it’s potentially just one very cool tool in a brave new world.
: )
Here it is: http://www.projectxiii.com/ !!!
I wish I could explore but have to wait for Silverlight
There is nothing to explore. It’s mainly just a splash page. No real content. No access to anything.
Thanks Rhoda!!
Ha ha ha ha ha HA! Project XIII is LIVE! http://www.projectxiii.com/
DAMN! THAT was worth the wait!
Quote from their data policy page “We have no idea what you are talking about and will strive to make every effort to do so.”
Well right back at you guys!
Can’t wait for phase II!
Trish, the project is not live, it’s just a website splash page, like a shop window.
Thanks Sam, that’s evident, though it is promoted as LIVE right at the top of this page…
I went to the http://www.projectxiii.com/ page I don’t see anywhere to sign up to it, nor do I see it’s up and running. Also, dear Caleb, the grammatical errors in the pages are horrific. Spell check might have been a good idea when presenting a website/social network. I mean this critique in the best of ways, as it’s the front line presentation of your website/social network.
I’m sure if you email the crew, you can let them know about the grammar errors. That way they can repair them. I’m sure if they’re working as hard as they say, spelling errors might happen. I don’t know if HTML generators have spell checks, personally. But I don’t like the errors either. I’m nitpicky that way.
Hey Scot, nice to see you here! I did email them with the corrections so they could find them easily and correct them if they have the time.
If you are asking yourself, what is it that will really make a change in this world, then I highly recommend your viewing this. If you want absolute truth and transparency – here it is:
http://youtu.be/qOmIkg2H4fg
With absolute love, peace and gratitude for your BE’ing
Mikki
Thank you so much for sharing this. This is a major key.
MASSIVE RESIGNATIONS 5.0
https://eclinik.wordpress.com/2013/06/02/massive-resignations-5-0/
Without prejudous? How many times is this written properly in the OPPT filings? How could you get that one wrong? We’ve all been anxiously awaiting the release of this website but didn’t want to see something just thrown out there like this with elementary grammatical errors. We are all behind you guys and your efforts 100% but these are the kinds of things, however small, that make it appear that there isn’t a great deal of attention to detail. Please take this as constructive criticism because I am much harder on myself when I make mistakes than anyone else possibly could be and I am guessing some of you are too.
LOL, thx Trish, i thought it might be some ref to Pike’s Peak
A bit of perspective:
“….
Optimists
Optimists explain positive events as having happened because of them (internal). They also see them as evidence that more positive things will happen in the future (stable), and in other areas of their lives (global). Conversely, they see negative events as not being their fault (external). They also see them as being flukes (isolated) that have nothing to do with other areas of their lives or future events (local).
For example, if an optimist gets a promotion, she will likely believe it’s because she’s good at her job and will receive more benefits and promotion in the future. If she’s passed over for the promotion, it’s likely because she was having an off-month because of extenuating circumstances, but will do better in the future.
Pessimists
Pessimists think in the opposite way. They believe that negative events are caused by them (internal). They believe that one mistake means more will come (stable), and mistakes in other areas of life are inevitable (global), because they are the cause. They see positive events as flukes (local) that are caused by things outside their control (external) and probably won’t happen again (unstable).
A pessimist would see a promotion as a lucky event that probably won’t happen again, and may even worry that she’ll now be under more scrutiny. Being passed over for promotion would probably be explained as not being skilled enough. She’d therefore expect to be passed over again.
What This Means
Understandably, if you’re an optimist, this bodes well for your future. Negative events are more likely to roll off of your back, but positive events affirm your belief in yourself, your ability to make good things happen now and in the future, and in the goodness of life.
Fortunately for pessimists and realists, these patterns of thinking can be learned to a degree (though we tend to be mostly predisposed to our patterns of thinking.) Using a practice called ‘cognitive restructuring,’ you can help yourself and others become more optimistic by consciously challenging negative, self-limiting thinking and replacing it with more optimistic thought patterns.”
http://stress.about.com/od/optimismspirituality/a/optimismbenefit_2.htm
So what about Pessioptimists ?
I do not understand how the whole I UV will work. I just pray that it will be a REAL, tangible way to help those who are suffering. People need homes, vehicles, food, clothing, medical, dental care, etc. etc. I have heard it was said that there would be 10 billion in your own personal account. Ten billion of what? This is where I get confused. Is it gold, silver???? Can it be used the same as we use “money” now? Will this value be recognized by grocery stores, other vendors, etc.? So many questions. I just want to see the suffering END in this world.
Ppl r so shell shocked, by the manipulation, being lied to, lied on, beat up, beat down, robbed, used, on and on by evil doers. So many ppl r just plain tired, life has been so cruel to some and so plentiful for others. Many children’s lives have been taken without the opportunity to experience the beautiful life God granted them… just like he granted all of us, such an unbalance. Because someone wants the whole WORLD to themselves, NOT for U OR US but to “themselves ” and it’s not many, trust me. And ur going to get what? We have been taught to be suspicious, heartless, racist, my team is better than ur team, my race is better than ur race, my religion is the right one, etc…to only care about me and mine. And only a “chosen” few get to shine, but u don’t need anyone else to make u shine, u already are shining but not aware of how to turn up the light. I don’t know really what anyone want from us? We r shown, right in our face all the lies, revealing they r not only spraying us with toxins, (all over head today). And a million other things that have been partly purposely put in our face. When I saw the jets I just stood there and watched this VERY thick stream of chem-trail coming out of the engine ALL the way across the sky. Headed over the water to suck up moisture. So the next damage can be done. I knew they were spraying anyway, all the clouds disappear and the sky turns to just blue.I looked at all the ppl walking and riding by and I… well just say ALMIGHTY GOD I wanted to fly to the plane go inside turn the pilot around and ask the MILLION dollar question WHY? What r you? R U human? If so? Why r u helping to tear up and destroy ur own habitat, ur world and HUMAN BEINGS? What the hell is wrong with u ppl? I KNOW what is in it for the said, Elite. But what the hell is in it for u? The future of ur families to come, serving a bunch of homicidal maniacs for eternity? Excuse me? Not only r they revealing they r killing us and have always done so through medical, food, vaccinations, creating diseases and holding back technology, the list is endless. Not to leave out the fact we were all born rich, with rights from our creator, and they have taken a pen and manipulated all that, with words,that say one thing and mean another, going around the true law trying to act if it’s not there. It’s there for those who research, OPPT made everything we already had much more powerful, combining the two, common law and OPPT is very powerful and many don’t have a clue, and that’s what they have been banking on. The mind control, is a hold back, all these ppl aiding in this is the murders, even if they didn’t kill anyone they r the accessory and just as guilty, because some know or they think they know. The ones that has past on, never to even know about the life they should have lived. I know we have to educate ourselves and keep pushing on, I mean these ppl have shown who they r, and u still see them on the stupid box/ Smiling, spending money (they took from us), accepting AWARDS, indictments all over the place under common law, which is being ignored and meanwhile back at the ranch, the drones continue, the madness continues, the struggling continues, the newspapers and media continues, with the robotic news telling u EVERYTHING but the NEWS, either alien or just some thirsty money hungry I’m following the purple situation cuz I’m special, and they r coming in all colors. Who feels special right now? R U breathing the air? Even detoxing is what? Madness to even have to be done, Yes I do know I AM Embodied Eternal Essence, I have definitely did my homework and along with so many sharing with me and I am eternally grateful to all for the knowledge. And that’s a part of the hard part once ur eyes have been opened ur whole being is jump started and u just keep on charging only this time ur not giving ur energy to them but harvesting it and manifesting it all with in u and the glow is amazing. I really do love the world, humanity, the vast beauty it possesses. And deeply hurt for all the helplessness many feel. And all anyone wants to do is just live, survive, not own mansions, just a home. Just to be able to give ur loved ones just the basics is never ending battle for many.. With the “break” them system in place. If ur not properly programmed into helping the “break” u system. Ur blocked by the “break” u system. Being paid and patted on the back for murder and giving humans hardships. I see the birds over head, no decent food because of the aluminum, dead wildlife on the side of the road, so many r dying and I cry, because I want to help them all, feed them all, just STOP all the harm that is being done to them, and all life around the world. We all r just a needle in a haystack but with many needles it makes a comfortable bed. Sorry sometimes it just needs to be said, because it’s there, even with all this going on. It’s not going to stop as long as they r still there, and all the anger, hate, fear, the madness, the insanity u just have to empty it like waste, hold on to ur wisdom, and love and all plz turn up ur light and GLOW. And I can understand if u don’t want to glow, we do have free will. Peace and love worldwide
I also agree with you….Thank you for bringing this discussion here!!
What most seem to be focused on here is the value “money” which is only 1 piece of the puzzle. We have got to truly come together just like those in Turkey and realize that we are on the same team and what the OPPT has done and what the ground crew with PROJECT XIII and the UV Ixchange is doing is leveling the playing field. They can not give any of us our freedom. All the money in the world is not going to automatically give you that unless you are able to know it, feel it and understand what that means which is why taking simple steps NOW can help you move in to that place of BEING. The decision is internal and it’s that voice that says NO…I will not give you my value…NO I will not allow you to continue killing us…..spraying us with chemicals…filling our water with flouride…feeding us GMO’S or starving us…harming our children with your vaccines trying to sterilize us…, imprisoning us etc. etc. etc. It’s saying “I DO NOT CONSENT!!!!!” You say those things by taking ACTION NOW..They have succeeded this far because we have allowed them to. All of this information has been around for a very long time. It’s part of the design that they have to tell us everything they are doing, but they use code. They present it in such a way that we don’t pay attention or we have been desensitized to it or it’s so ridiculous that no one would believe it’s true and they beat us because enough of us don’t stand together and say NO so they automatically get to accept that as our consent. I read something recently that said something like 6% had to stand up to Monsanto before they would realize that they have little chance of success…someone please correct me if that percentage is wrong We CAN NOT continue to sit back idly waiting for our brothers and sisters to do all the work…THEY NEED US AS MUCH AS WE NEED THEM and despite what we have been taught by the ptw WE DO COUNT!! EACH AND EVERYONE OF US truly has the potential to make the difference. All of the fear, the doubting, the chatter in your head that makes you think you can’t do something or you shouldn’t do something or that we are different or that we can’t trust each other is the PROGRAMMING!! TURN IT OFF!! Turn it off and listen with your heart…your heart knows the answer…we are all in this together!!! I LOVE YOU ALL!!!!!!!!
Thank u, I love u too!
To all who are waiting for the Project XIII here it is…
PROJECT XII Website LIVE! http://www.projectxiii.com/
TRUTH, LOVE & LIGHT WILL SET US FREE…
GOD BLESS…US ALL HIS CREATION.
Also just want to say, if there r aliens, I know they r not all bad. There r some beautiful ones, and I mean in heart and being. Thank u
Wow, Sherayx I could not agree more with your post. I too just want ALL this Suffering to end. I don’t know how much more my heart can take. I pray so deeply that this I UV value will be a real tangible way to help others who desperately need it right now. Love and Peace
Thank u, hopefully it will. I know I would luv to be able to help. I have always helped if I see a homeless person, ext…I share what I can spare which in this system they leave very little to work with. But I still do, it is a must for me, so I can’t imagine being able to DO like I want to. I have followed this, and went to PJ13 site, looks like cover page does nothing and I have Silverlight, don’t get it, I can check out about, ect… but that’s it, am I missing something anyone? But thank u for ur reply and kind heart, much love and peace.
No, that’s it. You are not missing anything. Still no iPhone app, either. Promises, promises.
A progress update from the PXIII team would be much appreciated.
I’ve just noticed that IM Power Absent Limits gives an acronym of IMPAL(E)? Is this just a co-incidence?
4 June 2024 Last updated at 05:00 ET Help Surviving the recession communist-style in Spain
The economic downturn, and in particular the Eurozone crisis, has raised questions about modern capitalism.
In Spain unemployment is at record levels, with record numbers of homes repossessed after the property market crashed.
However, a small communist-style town in the south claims to have no unemployment and no repossessions.
Tom Burridge reportshttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22763464
I have an iphone 4,just what should I be downloading?? OSI, SILVERLIGHT or Windowsphone etc…please help
There was supposed to be an App on the Itunes app store available Monday, but it has not appeared. I don’t think there is a projected date, now.
Hey Steve, pessoptimist? Dunno - what about pessoptimist/pessioptimist? (“Pessioptimist” not found.) Neither is in a dictionary. Wasn’t addressing satire though.
I like the Project XIII site front. What’s wrong w/spontaneous? So it has a few misspellings? What’s that song, “u n’ i travel to the beat of a different drum,…can’t see the forest for the trees…etc. etc. good song…
Do you know when an attorney and software designer are lying ??
When their lips are flapping and moving !
Heather, just split Jesse’s value between the rest of us, we love ya’ll soooooo much. Lighten up Jesse, there’s already enough darkness.
Love - Blessings and Gratitude Kenny
Show me the value
For the value, you will need to look inside, for the money, you’ll have to be patient like me.
I UV exchange, CVAC, Project 13, RV - so many promises but nothing yet materialised…. I feel very sad to say this but it’s starting to look like more of the same old, same old, same old……. (fill in the blank).
“If only God would give me some clear sign! Like making a large deposit in my name in a Swiss bank.”
(Woody Allen quote)
Ha! Good quote Lisi.
Based on the progression of info that’s been coming out, it looks as though a clear sign from the self-appointed God of earth would be a large withdrawal from your Swiss account!
if that’s the project 13′s website it’s wonderful, it don’t look like much from the outside but the beauty is in the inside…I know it will be even more wonderful when complete A BIG THANKS this is a great and bold step in taking back our freedom much love
Those who are impatient please read this link it will help a lot.
http://peoplestrustsaskatoon.blogspot.com/2013/06/i-have-dream-it-is-same-as-your-dream.html
TRUTH, LOVE & LIGHT WILL SET US FREE…
GOD BLESS…US ALL HIS CREATION.
Hi all, I am being a realist here by saying that “There is no such thing as FREE”. We all put energy into what we do and that creates your value that no one can take from you. But (I hate that word because it sounds like an excuse for not putting in the work) each of us is worth what we are worth according to the energy we put into each other and this makes both of you more valuable to exchange value to meet each others current needs and future imagined needs for all od US.
Be patient and your value will soon be revealed only if you have earned it?
Will there be room for nitpicking (and humour) in the new paradigm? If not I’ll get it off my chest now. I hope in the new paradigm there is a dramatic improvement in grammar and spelling. I’m just not sure if I can ascend beyond the misuse of the word ‘loose’ in place of ‘lose’ and vice versa.
The thing that is puzzling to me, as a web developer, is why Caleb is using Silverlight as a platform. Except on Windows phone (which is quickly moving to HTML5), Microsoft has pretty much abandoned Silverlight. They closed their developer area last year, and have moved to HTML5 and Flash on their desktops. While they say it will be supported for another 10 years, development seems to have completely stopped. I can only guess that he is using a dead technology for desktop computers because he can port the Windows Phone app to PC more easily. Bad idea to depend on Silverlight (which basically has the same kind of functionality as Flash) for what is supposed to be a cutting edge application.
Still no news on project xiii? At least the comments from some have changed from having to pay a dollar per month to hire Caleb and his crews energy (smile).
Hang in there brothers and sisters and remember “great things come to those that wait”
W-h-o-a! Talk about inviting ridicule! Wow.
1) After numerous proclamations such as “It is already done” and “The value is already there, you just have to access it”, and “The finale is eminent”, the ring leader/spokesperson takes a powder and “quantum jumps” out’a here.
2) A crack team of super-brain, code-speak programmer types have been laboring tirelessly and thanklessly on a web-based new paradigm of connectedness and “Exchange of Value” (that, well, doesn’t actually have anything to do with the $10 bn in gold and silver that’s somewhere out there waiting for each of us to come and play nicely with or it will get miffed and go away, but don’t worry this software thing will eventually lead to some other software thing that will somehow have something to do with getting each and every one of us into all that precious metal) and it actually “launches”, Yeah, Hooray, Woo-hoo, and it’s…, well…, it’s nothing (and that’s putting it kindly).
3) The I-UV group announces a plea for $$$ (whoops, why not a loving energetic exchange???), because a vital member of the crew is out of dollars; you know, the kind that people generally use to get food, pay bills, that sort of thing, and if people don’t get some $$$ to her really fast, she may just have to ditch the I-UV thing and get a job.
Yikes.
Did we hear the same radioprogram?
1. They set up a date for launch, and one of the things they hate to do is just that! Caleb wanted so bad to finish this project until june 1, but didn’t make the date. So does it make it any worse? No. Will it launch on a date not currently set? Yes.
So what is the issue here people have exactly? It’s like saying a date NEVER has been missed before in human history, so it is not that bad as you think.
2. It was highly VOLUNTARY, and Chris was also saying things like “maybe give her a hand or maybe someone had a room to spare” etc.
So the money thing wasn’t the only thing mentioned, so thanks for the one tracked info dude.
Some people have a strong urge to take things out of context, so thanks again dude…..
Love & Light
I think some of the problem is that the expectations were set high by Heather herself. “All Launch May” she said, and then said it a few more times. More than her promises, though, is a bit of a disconnect. Heather and Caleb were part of a threesome that have claimed that by a bunch of UCC filings they took down every corporation and government in the world, bankrupted them, took all their money and gold, and stashed it away somewhere. For people with that kind of savvy and power, the rest should have been trivial. But nothing they promised has come to pass. Six months later and the governments and corporations are still operating exactly as they were before December 25. Billions are still starving, millions are still losing homes, the PTB is still making people’s lives miserable. All that has resulted from Heather’s filings and aphorisms is zillions of words on blogs, on Internet talk shows, and on thousands of CN’s that have been sent out with little effect. And where are we now? A group of once impoverished new-age bloggers are now partying in Morocco, along with the kids. And now it looks like another guru is about to rake in a lot of FRN’s from contributions from lots of folks are don’t themselves have much. And we have the promised Project XIII that only amounts to a splash page on a $7 a month hosting service. Is it any wonder that the bloom is coming off the rose?
We manifest that in which we focus on the most…I focus on positive energy and a positive outcome and an understanding that things don’t always go MY way, but that does not imply or mean that it’s not happening or is not going to happen. For some of us believing is seeing…not seeing is believing! The government, the banks and the corporations are all in it together. The only ones that can bring them down is We THE PEOPLE, but there are soooo many that are still asleep in the program and no shortage of those beings that appear to prefer to be negative instead of positive which in no way helps our cause. More people believing and spreading the word would get it done a lot faster. Love & Light
The governments and corporations are either foreclosed or they are not. They either have no money to operate or they do. Heather either took all their gold and money and hid it in a safe place or she did not. She either has control over that wealth or she does not. And if she does, she has chosen not to restore it to the one people. If she does not have control of it, then we are lost. None of this is ambiguous. None of it requires our input. If Heather had done what she claims, none of these governments and corporations would still be functioning because no employees would be paid and none of thei infrastructure would be functioning. There is no logic in the idea that we have to personally now take down hundreds of thousands of governments and corporations, one by one. They would surely have discovered after six months that all their money and gold was missing and that they no longer existed without our having to tell them.
Just got around to reading Judge Dale’s “The Great American Adventure etc..” Gives you a new appreciation for what they(OPPT) have done and are doing for us. Help the cause by shedding light instead of dark.
The governments and corporations are either foreclosed or they are not. They either have no money to operate or they do. Heather either took all their gold and money and hid it in a safe place or she did not. She either has control over that wealth or she does not. And if she does, she has chosen not to restore it to the one people. If she does not have control of it, then we are lost. None of this is ambiguous. None of it requires our input. If Heather had done what she claims, none of these governments and corporations would still be functioning because no employees would be paid and none of thei infrastructure would be functioning. There is no logic in the idea that we have to personally now take down hundreds of thousands of governments and corporations, one by one. They would surely have discovered after six months that all their money and gold was missing and that they no longer existed without our having to tell them.
They are using fiat money like they have been doing for years. Federal reserve notes. They do not have the gold, silver and precious metals. It is a MUST that a SAFE way be in place to distribute the value back to the people so that it doesn’t just get stolen again. A new way for us to exchange our value is also necessary so that we don’t just pay it all back in to the very system we are trying to collapse. It’s not as simple as one would think when you stop to contemplate all of the variables. It’s also just as important that we change our slave mentality so we all continue to take the necessary steps to move away from the slavery system. Love & Light
I think that you do not understand what it is your saying . Heather never said any of what your saying except about the foreclosures. We have been trapped as slaves for 13 millennia so have some patience as the dark leaves the planet John. There is no need for your negative attitude and words. Heather is a spark of the Creator as you are and should be respected for what she has done as well as all the people who have courage to stand up to the corrupt? Lets give PEACE a chance ok?
Heather did, indeed, say those things.
Here is a part of an interview from January with Brian, AK and Heather. Heather is talking about the new government the trustees created (cvac) with $500 million from every person on earth to fund it. No such new government was ever put in place, so I would like my $500 million back.
B: yeah. A question from AK, right now, the CVAC mentions 500 million per person, is that a separate sum?
H: In order to get the temporary government, you have to have backing, right?
AK: Right.
H: So 500 million from every person on the planet was appropriated to be able to fund their government to start the repossessions, start the systems of treasury, of protection, of education, technology, so that was the number we chose. It can always be changed by the people.
AK: Ok.
H: So we took the money out of their holdings to start the systems or keep the systems that they already thought were running.
AK: So this is for the organic government.
H: yes, but I had to register the government in a commercial system so the old commercial system couldn’t run anymore.
AK: Ok, got it. So this is the one that is taking hold of the assets.
H: This is the one that collapsed all of the other corporations operating under the guise of government. This is temporary so the people could establish their governments, if any.
AK: so we are removing a legal fiction?
H: Yes, we had to collapse the legal fictions by stating the fictions as the property of the people individually and collectively.
AK: Got it.
B: that makes sense.
John, I believe all of this is still going to take place. It’s the entire purpose behind the UV Ixchange. It’s also the reason Heather has been drawing up the person to person contracts. We will all decide if there will be a form of government. Caleb has made it very clear that he wants nothing to do with being governed or governing anyone else. Heather has made it clear that she does not choose to pay energy into a system of judgement. I think it’s been a general consensus to return to common law. As far as the government that still pretends to exist well that’s nothing new. We haven’t had a true government or a legal constitution for years and it is up to each of us to say “hey we know what you’ve been doing, we don’t like it and we no longer consent”. That’s the entire purpose behind the courtesy notices. Yes it is up to us to come together, educate all that is not aware and stand as one and collapse the system….just like our brave brothers and sisters are doing in Turkey right now. Peace & Love John to you and all of us that are suffering and still in the dark and to all of us that have been made aware and have made the choice to be here in support and to do our part.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/118062106/One-People-s-Public-Trust-Official-Announcement-on-12-26-2012
“The people, all people equally on earth, have an individual duly verified sum certain of FIVE BILLION (5,000,000,000.00) in lawful money of the united states of America, GOLD and SILVER… over THREE QUINTILLION, FIVE HUNDRED QUADRILLION (3,500,000,000,000,000,000.00) just in duly verified EQUITY DEBT against the DEBTORS. There is an additional duly verified sum certain of FIVE BILLION (5,000,000,000.00) in lawful money of the united states of America, GOLD and SILVER, for each of those people damaged by the actions and systems of the DEBTORS…over THREE QUINTILLION, FIVE HUNDRED QUADRILLION (3,500,000,000,000,000,000.00) lawful money of the united states of America, GOLD and SILVER, in duly verified DEBT OF DAMAGES against the DEBTORS…”
Well said Roxanne!! Peace and love to you!!
Wow, LOL, what a double-edged quote. I was actually being facetious, just for grins. Actually, if they all went to the Sahara, I wouldn’t blame them one bit. I went to Morocco twice in 1984 (before children!), and to the Sahara both times. It’s really not worth your plane ticket if you don’t go all the way to the desert. Can’t we just cut them some slack guys? A boss I had in ’01 said it best. Don’t be a whinebag! ‘K? Luv2all, even the crabdoodles…
Lol Lisa…I would personally love to be in Morocco right now. I read something today that some believe Morocco was or is a part of Atlantis. I can’t even begin to imagine what the energy would feel like, but its clear something magical is happening there and I can’t wait to hear all about it.
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ProjectXIII anyone?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret-program/2013/06/06/3a0c0da8-cebf-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story.html
When I’m approaching the end of a particular project, I’m always conscience of the next project lined up. The person I’m doing that next project for has an expectation of my starting it and is quite possibly organising other aspects of their project based around my projected start date. Now as is quite common in the building industry, all manner of things out of one’s direct control can play havoc with end dates and start dates etc. It’s quite prevalent and natural. In fact it would do a lot of clients good to understand and expect the erratic nature of the building industry and not be too demanding of an exact start date. I suspect other industries are similar, such as code writing or implementing a new world order of sorts. However! In order to facilitate calmness in my little ol’ industry, I’m ALWAYS in contact with people to let them know of the current status of things. I do it out respect and it’s an ingrained thing in me not to let people down…actually that’s probably quite rare thing for a tradie considering the general consensus!
My point is, I always inform people of the current status, daily if must be, because I respect their need to know so that they can be organised etc. That way I’m respectful and mindful of others and totally transparent.
The ‘powers’ that we all are currently hanging on have a very simple tool at the top of this page to exercise the same standard of respect I afford others in my business, that is, give us a simple daily, clear and precise update! In written form on this website. Seriously, anything short of that simple kind of DOing is disrespectful and deserving of scorn.
Simple, precise, regular and written update on this page. Most of us don’t have time to sit through two hours of audio that is predominantly waffle and silent airspace waiting for someone else’s connection to be clear. If anyone wants to complain about that comment, you obviously have far more free time on your hands so maybe you could be useful and transcribe the entire show and post it here, preferably without the waffle and down times.
The above sounds like a whinge doesn’t it? How about reading it as simply, Do unto others as you’d have them do to you’.
Mark, I agree it would be nice to have an update. It’s my understanding they are all currently in the desert. I did read an update from Mark H in the removing the shackles forum if any of you are interested in creating an account to check it out if you don’t already have one. I also asked if I could copy and post it here from the person who shared it from a Skype conversation. I will post it when and if I get the ok. I just feel it’s a matter of respect for the individual that shared it, but anyone can join and see it for themselves. It’s a good resource anyway.
. Peace and Love.
I just think that this site is the hub. It’s the very page created for this whole thing and of course the link for project 13. The creators of the page, admin or whatever should conduct a regular update, if not daily. My question is probably the simplest. I’m not asking about the mechanisms of the project or exchange, just an update of the process. Would have taken 5 minutes before heading into the desert.
And to anyone that might want to tell me to be patient, please don’t. I’m patient as far as the mechanisms and use of the project and exchange goes. Updates don’t require patience, I expect them just as I would do for another. For example, hey folks I’m about to jump in my van and go to my brother’s for the weekend and see my sister for the last time before she relocates to the US for three years. And now you’re up to date!
In case no-one notices, I am lacing my comments with humour and healthy sarcasm and a dash of good will. Just want what I would give. Cheers all.
I’m with you Mark, for me it is a matter of professionalism and manners to keep those with whom I am sharing a project of any kind informed of my actions that may affect them. Definition of manners ‘Good manners’ sum up to (a) granting importance to the other person, and (b) using two-way communication. Whatever motions or rituals are, these two factors are involved. Thus, a person violating them will find himself and his program rejected.
Definition of Professional;
The main criteria for professionals include the following:
Expert and specialized knowledge in field which one is practicing professionally.[7]
Excellent manual/practical and literary skills in relation to profession.[8]
High quality work in (examples): creations, products, services, presentations, consultancy, primary/other research, administrative, marketing, photography or other work endeavors.
A high standard of professional ethics, behavior and work activities while carrying out one’s profession (as an employee, self-employed person, career, enterprise, business, company, or partnership/associate/colleague, etc.). The professional owes a higher duty to a client, often a privilege of confidentiality, as well as a duty not to abandon a genuine client just because he or she may not be able to pay or remunerate the professional. Often the professional is required to put the interest of the client ahead of his own interests.
Reasonable work morale and motivation. Having interest and desire to do a job well as holding positive attitude towards the profession are important elements in attaining a high level of professionalism.
Appropriate treatment of relationships with colleagues. Consideration should be shown to elderly, junior or inexperienced colleagues, as well as those with special needs. An example must be set to perpetuate the attitude of one’s business without doing it harm.
A professional is an expert who is a master in a specific field.
Well I must say that for me just having the tools of the CN’s is a fabulous gift from all who participated in all that Do’ing….I have used the CN’s and so far they have worked…no response from them, they default again! The Value in understanding/comprehending is the gold for me. Hateful, ungrateful, people never have any peace and they seem to have to focus on every negative aspect that could possibly come into a mind bent on finding fault with a gift they can’t figure out how to open, and even if they get it open they don’t know what it is or how to use it….
I don’t know if the link above was referring partly to me? But when i said removed, I mean from the power to harm ppl. What good is this, if some ppl r free, have value whatever and drones r still killing children and ppl ect…? I am all for love, but ask the parents of those children, if the dead could speak what would they say? Lives mean nothing anymore? All this goes on…u see I know my heart is different, and I know some others r too. I am happy for this, but I also can’t put all the negative around us in the backseat and act like it’s not there. Animals r dying, ppl r dying, our planet is dying, what good is all this if our world is falling apart everyday, because the ppl r still ordering the chem-trails, poisons, still growing GMO’s ect… MANY ppl lost their lives and their souls r screaming, j-u-s-t-i-c-e what ever that may be, these “ppl” do not love anything or anyone…only themselves. The pictures and videos I have seen, especially children, I can’t get them out of my mind. I am grateful eternally, but the games, mind control, mind manipulation, build u up to let u down, (something satan truly gets a kick out of). Has me on guard about all things, I have an abundance of positive energy, and I try to do what I can when I see someone in need to the best of my abilities. We all have been in need of something at one time or another, the world we live in was geared to do that. if it’s nothing but a shoulder to cry on or someone to talk too, that’s value, or contributing a beautiful paintings to the world, helping the elderly and sick, or share ur special talents and gifts from ur creator with the world.. And IF u can measure the goodness you’ve done towards someone how high would it be? And I also know we all have value no matter what u do or don’t do, but the other version builds the value and u feel real good inside. IF that is the measurement of value I know I have more than 10 billion. But it’s not as important, equal too, or can ever replace the uplifting value u bestow on another and within yourself. When u care and share, it multiplies, they r right, it’s infinite. Feed the hungry birds, put apples out for the deers, ect…their food is being taken away, I don’t even see worms in the ground anymore? Get involved in animal cruelty, Care2.com, dogs are being eaten alive. ect…(Sorry) not to be a down-low of vibrations, it’s not that, it’s an awareness that needs to be shared to help heal the planet before we can even enjoy a beach. With chem-trail over head, oil spill, and dead fish Spraying like they did here all day to bring bad weather and it came, white sky and rain. if anything bring the caring to within and manifest it towards helping what ever u chose, building value. Not hating PTW, but being aware they r still there, reeking havoc.This is my thoughts on value, what I was getting from Heather, as well as to DO & BE, DO something positive, in ur life towards helping humanity and our one of a kind beautiful planet. As well as DO for OPT, and BEing who u R while ur DOing it. (maybe I’m wrong) This is just my thought, I am sure u have urs, and I respect it. It’s a vast world with vast problems and it needs vast ppl to become not only aware but to move forward. No ones saying not to forgive, but plz get away from the controls and seek help.( ya know)? Loving, peacefulness, yes DO all those good things. and again eternal love and gratitude
I was interested in the butterfly logo and decided to look it up and found the following webpage: http://unscenesgoodoldays.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/mind-control-tats-and-surroundings-bird.html
The name MONARCH is not necessarily defined within the context of royal nobility, but rather refers to the monarch butterfly. When a person is undergoing trauma induced by electroshock, a feeling of light-headedness is evidenced; as if one is floating or fluttering like a butterfly.
Is this another co-incidence or is there something more sinister at play here???
How odd? One of the hypnotic gestures, was a butterfly. As well as the color purple, now Gold, and “Somewhere Over The Rainbow”.. “Sinister?” “U down with OPT”? Yeah U Know Me”. But I do understand the emotional transformation u r referring too. Butterflies r such a beauty from God, and should not be used in their way. Sinister? I know it means something evil is brewing But I always sum it up to “sneaky”. Also, it wouldn’t be “known” if it were sneaky…Peace to u always.
p.s.
There r a lot of coincidences, but so far, “I’m down with OPT”song or not. : )
There was a song I think back in 80′s OPT Yeah U know Me? So to those who don’t know, they r not my words but a coincidence Many Blessings
hahaha, you mind reader!
but i think the song says OPP, not OPT.
I agree with John i’m afraid..i’m absolutely hunky dory with waiting on this project (I personally think it will simply function as just another ‘cool tool’ rather than the panacea some believe). But, Caleb has made no bones about the fact he is approaching this from a business proposition, albeit one with altruistic foundations. We, therefore, are Caleb’s ‘clients’ if you will, and the people who took it upon themselves to create this i/UV website (i mean this one not project 13 or the eventual i/UV exchange) and have the time and energy to create a post requesting good old fiat currency donations for members, should, collectively, find the time to contact Caleb and get a brief update, if only to manage our expectations a little better. It’s basic, good old fashioned respect…indeed..do unto others.
I personally am not looking for cash, and although I wholeheartedly resonate with much of the energy and good intentions of many, I am finding it harder and harder to swallow this bizarre new ‘energy speak’ - it feels as though it’s replacing the deliberately vague legalese of lawyers and these, frankly euphemistic references to value etc which increasingly seem to pan out to mean cold hard fiat cash every time.
A spade is a spade as we say in the UK, the patronising attitude of some people here towards those who, rightly, have valid questions rather than blind faith smacks of what is rapidly taking on cultish undertones. I appreciate what Heather and all the team has done, but I believe there are a lot of political machinations going on behind the scenes relating to a potential currency reset and possible world prosperity programmes.. I think Heather is a cog in a big wheel and could be a good reason this release has not only stalled, but the communication is utterly absent. I think there is some truth to the idea that humanity will be credited financially, but in managed programs and not as a lump sum for individuals. So I think people should not expect that.
I think Heather et al were hoping for more traction on political movements against the cabal to coincide this release with all that..it’s not happening and who knows if it ever will, but i’m guessing the ‘radio silence’ is less about being up to their necks in sand, camels and crystals and more to do with the PTB doing what they always do. It’s fun to watch it all though, like a soap opera playing out. I am just losing the faith somewhat and I’m guessing so are many..they are asking questions, just as Heather did originally of the system..that’s called due diligence in my world, but others are interpreting this as ‘negative energy’ and thinking their flowery language to bash those who question.. that’s a passive/aggressive technique in itself. I’m sure Caleb is holed up and barely aware of what’s going down here, but there are others who have access to this site and can act as a conduit and perhaps should once again go above and beyond for the altruistic reasons which first lead them to this in the first place, and give the world an update with some grounded info. Thanks : )
Honestly, my impression is that Caleb is just doing his software development thing and is more interested in his project than the whole I-UV thing. He seems to see it as just another development project and a business model, and not in the way Heather sees it. I question his approach (he is kind of ripping off the bitcoin concept) and the platform (Silverlight is a dead technology, and no platform to build a next generation website on), but I suspect the decision was made to make it easier to port the Windows Phone app to the PC. But, he seems to think he can make some money off of it, so more power to him. As for the whole OPPT/I-UV business, I think Heather has lost interest in the thing she started. She seems to have moved beyond the actual 3D remedy all of us have been seeking to being more interested in the spiritual aspect of her quest. The activities of the group of gurus who have joined her in Morocco and now traveled to the desert with her, are focused on new-age spiritualism. The whole movement seems to be adrift at this time.
Scientists Prove DNA Can Be Reprogrammed By Words And Frequencies – 7 June 2024
http://lucas2012infos.wordpress.com/2013/06/07/scientists-prove-dna-can-be-reprogrammed-by-words-and-frequencies-7-june-2013/#more-55602
(Above article - one reason a little patience and positivity go a long way… )
Just b/c original docs were thumbprinted in blood doesn’t mean there’s a formal contract on each and every project that spontaneously arises regarding carved-in-stone deadlines. There’s a distinction btwn questioning and grousing at every turn. I could understand the demanding attitude if folks had already paid an exchange of value into the project, which they haven’t. As for the contributions to BZ, Bob and D, those were freely given, so unless someone here donated to those requests, why the sad face? BZ’s not even in N. Africa. Perchance do humans tend to overanalyze things a bit? Incidentally, dear Mark, I spent my entire 30-yr. career transcribing, but retired, so yeah, I have some free time now. Also have major arthritis and I’m done transcribing, so I’ll pass on your offer to transcribe for the masses. I think someone’s already doing that. I don’t see a positive outlook equating with faith in a particular outcome. To me, it seems less grounded to pin one’s faith to any particular outcome, especially when everyone knows they’re playing it by ear, than to simply have a positive outlook in general, which is just healthier for the individual. So much has been accomplished already just with the filings. What if they had never been done? No legal remedy to anything. Now that would definitely be a bad outcome for everyone, here and elsewhere. They’ve done a great deal already, sometimes people just need a rest. In TX there’s a saying, “…like a turkey on a junebug.” Guess the I-UV crew is the junebug.
What, exactly, has been accomplished by the filings? The corporations are still rocking on and making money hand over fist, the governments are still rocking on and increasing their surveillance of us every day, people by the billions are still starving, homes are still being taken from people. What actual, 3D, effect have the filings made?
John, hi, have you not found the need to utilize the filings as yet? Many have, and are doing so successfully. The UCC undermining of the corporate structure will take time to disseminate, but people are slowly putting it into action and it’s working, hence the “share your story” section of this site. Have you given up B4 firing any shots? Nobody said it was a SILVER BULLET. Maybe it’s a generation gap thing. Folks my age for the most part don’t expect instant gratification. Se la vie.
Lisi, I’m 62 years old. I doubt it’s a generation gap thing. With seven billion people in the world, most who have no access to the Internet, a “person by person” approach could take a thousand years. We don’t have 20 years. We may not have five years. This whole idea that each person must fight their own battle is just silly. It’s an excuse, not a reason. Either Heather’s UCC filings collapsed the world’s corporations and governments, or they didn’t. Group after group has promised remedy over the years. None have delivered. But all of them made excuses for months, or years, while accomplishing nothing. And were defended by their followers until the end.
I have seen so many of these groups rise and fall over the decades that I have little patience with them. I pay attention to them, but once I see the pattern of promise and obfuscate that always arises, I step back and start examining them critically. Heather, despite her mostly unintelligible 5D speak, is acting just like all the other failed purveyors of remedy over the years. We have been messed with so many times. We must demand results, not vague, new age rambling.
The end of what, John?
Usually, the end is when the guru goes to prison. Heather, at least, was smart enough to go to Morocco who doesn’t have an extradition treaty with the U.S. Tim Turner, with RuSA, is now in prison. Charlie Miller (one of the original OPPT trustees) went to prison for promoting UCC remedy stuff - and writing $30 million in bogus checks. Group after group’s leaders ended up in prison. I don’t think it will take years with Heather, though, because she really does seem to have lost patience with her followers questions.
I think a lot of folks who got into this after 2012 don’t have the whole story of where OPPT came from. Charles Miller, though a UCC filing back in the year 2000, foreclosed on the UCC and took ownership of it. He didn’t do anything with that for about 10 years; but, around 2010, he, through another UCC filing, gifted ownership of the UCC to Heather. Heather had been involved with the UCC redemption movement for a few years, which is why she knew Charlie and some other UCC redemption gurus. Heather took Charlie’s gift of the UCC and ran with it, with Charlie as one of the original OPPT trustees (he is listed on the original OPPT UCC filings as a trustee). But, Charlie had all this unpleasant baggage, i.e., the prison stay for helping people avoid paying taxes and for having written that $30 million in bogus checks. So Charlie withdrew as a trustee so as not to pose future problems for the OPPT. And the OPPT as we know it was born.
Thank you for this info John. Really good to hear where this came from in the first place. The one thing that has always bothered me about the OPPT is that no matter how many laws, codes, registrations, filings, foreclosures, etc. etc. there are, it doesn’t matter, as long as it is not heeded by the one’s in question. Which of course are most of the population on this planet, including the so-called ‘Powers that were’.
There are two reasons the OPPT filings are not heeded. One is that the ‘powers that were’ don’t give a shit about this. If you have power (or force, if you like), you make the rules anyway and can make up any new rules to fit you. The second reason is that the rest of this planet’s population has not heard about the OPPT, nor will they ever hear about the OPPT, and thus they can not do anything about it.
I’ll go on with my life now. Take care all you wonderful people. Just for the record, I do believe and experience that my thoughts and feelings DO affect my life in mysterious and wonderful ways. And my experience is that the more love I spread, the more simplicity I exercise, the more information I accumulate and process and the more peace I feel, the better I and those around me have it. So I will continue to meditate and give and receive freely my power from the one infinite source.
The OPPT never stood for simplicity too me as it was rooted in a lot of cryptical filings and registrations. But now that I have processed the information I have again found peace in regard to this.
Take care and much much peace and love to all of us! The future is now.
And also, for the record, this whole discussion again only shows me that the only system that I can see that can ever be incorruptible, is a moneyless system with custodianship (which btw, OPPT mentions as well) instead of ownership, with free giving and receiving instead of buying and selling and with local and global collaboration instead of competition. As far as I can see, this is the only system and mindset that can create a peaceful and just world for everyone on this planet. You can call this system whatever you like. I call it a resource based gift economy. http://www.theresourcebasedeconomy.com/
Take care again people!
Guess we all have our own little “spidey” senses. I worked in legal for a long time and keep up with news on as many fronts as possible (meaning non-mainstream), so while it’s certainly understandable people would want to be cautious about this sort of thing, maybe transferring frustrations from earlier failed attempts projects a sabotaging effect onto the current object of one’s attention. Just a thought. I’m not demanding any results, but I can see this UCC tool showing some effect on institutions. Vagueness isn’t helpful either, but people do have to learn discernment on their own. Try telling your 20 year old son or daughter something they’re not ready to absorb yet. They get it when they get it. Even with groups rising and falling, I never looked into anything I didn’t get something out of. So maybe it’s an expectation thing. That reminds me of “est”. One thing I did hear from est was “take what you get”, but I didn’t actually “get” it from est. I blew it off when est said it. I internalized it a couple or decades after that. People don’t mess with me because I don’t let them. I just look @ the info and see where it goes. Pay u’r nickel, take u’r chances. Or, we can all just wait for the rapture…
Well, having it all figured out ahead of time is certainly the cost effective way to go about things. There again, it’s an individual choice, so what I don’t get is other folks projecting past failures onto any new idea, then categorically denouncing it. No offense, just smacks of sour grapes.
It’s not a new idea. Read my post above about the origins of OPPT. I think what is confusing people is that Heather isn’t being completely transparent about where this version of commercial remedy came from. Heather has a story, but it is inconsistent with her earlier involvement with the UCC redemption movement. A lot of us hoped that perhaps she had found a new twist; but, her approach hasn’t been any more successful as any other.
Hi John, Your EGO seems to be seems to be steroids in a Total State of Turmoil and Fear, if you want to be Free of it, its SIMPLE, you need to Let it Go from within. What you believe you are seeing on the outside 3D world is merely a reflection of your perception. Love and Peace will Do.
Kendrick, the ego was beat out of me a long time ago. I’ve been fighting this battle for decades. I’m tired of promises. We need actual remedy. We need results.
Your argument, Kenrick, to be valid, must surely also apply to you. Therefore, doesn’t it follow that what you believe you are seeing in John is, also, merely a reflection of your own perception?
Smart move on Charlies’ part, withdrawing as trustee. I’m inclined to watch individuals and see what s/he does, as opposed to what that individual says. I worked with lots and lots of attys over the years, some are so honest they practically squeak when they walk. Others, not so much. Takes years to figure this out by getting to know them. Not all attys know the BAR is what it is. Our entire world is discovering that every institution on the planet is corrupted and compromised. Some worse than others. If attys are the “worst of the worst” as some would depict them, then the average joe on the street is likely calibers less corrupt(?) only doesn’t know the law, so can’t manipulate so much??? Maybe we’ve all been brainwashed to believe what institutions would have us believe, which is whatever they want to tell us. One rotten apple may potentially trash the entire barrel, but not if you catch it in time. One thing i’ve internalized is nothing being carved in stone. People go to jail all the time for not paying taxes, does that make the debt slavery system OK? Actually, all this stuff on Charlie Miller is available for one’s reading pleasure, plus the I-UV crew has brought it up in their interviews. Undoubtedly a lot of people saw the potential to undermine the UCC system and have tried to do so in a BIG way, while others have learned to use it individually to their advantage by filing individual papers, etc… I applaud all their efforts. At least someone’s still in there fighting the fight. “When u got nothin’, u got nothin’ t’lose.” So it is….
Yeah. I was originally not too concerned about Heather’s lack of transparency. Willing to give her the benefit of the doubt to see if she had really come up with a new twist that might actually take down the PTB this time. As far as I’m concerned, whoever could take down the PTB would have my blessing. But, that didn’t happen. Lots of words, not much with results. So Heather’s story becomes more important. And her background is inconsistent with the story she tells. Heather was not an attorney that worked in finance. I’ve talked with people who knew her as an attorney (in an effort to do due diligence), and she was a family and personal injury lawyer. Now, we all imagine ourselves in the best light, so I really don’t care what kind of fiction she tells herself when she looks in the mirror. In this case, though, where taking down the corporations of the world is concerned, it kind of makes a difference what kind of lawyer she was. So her lack of transparency is troubling. I don’t want to see more people damaged by those claiming to be helping them. People are damaged enough, already.
I want to add that those I’ve talked to say Heather was a very good personal injury lawyer and they hated that she left the field.
I have followed this thing since December last year when it first appeared on the internet. When I first read about it I did get a huge ‘energetic’ response. Since then, like many others, I have avidly and enthusiastically followed the developments, articles, radio shows, etc. It seemed exquisite that the PTW had been defeated by their own system of slavery. Sweet justice indeed.
I say this to illustrate that I’m not some sceptic unable to respond to something positive.
However, and sadly, I am now feeling increasingly uncomfortable about this whole thing. Certain things are jumping out at me and seeming just not to add up.
Me too, am sorry to see people on this thread being criticised and put down for not being ‘positive’, because they are questioning things. Just want to remind people that that’s a typical cult dynamic. Criticism is not welcomed in cults. To those critics of the critics, I would ask them why they are not respecting others’ free will to question, doubt or disagree? What is it which makes them feel the need to assert their own opinion as superior and demean those who don’t share those opinions? Is that their understanding of ‘eternal essence absent limits’, of acting in love and respecting ‘free will’?
Ironically, some seem to believe that ‘oneness’ means ‘uniform’ - ie. that we should all perceive things in the same way and have exactly the same opinions, and those that don’t, just don’t understand and are therefore treated as inferior. That is pretty dangerous thinking, imho, and is exactly what the alleged gubberments of this world and trying to impose by force on the peoples of our world at this very moment.
(I keep losing my text from the comments box so I’ll post this in sections, lol.)
A teaching from the Buddha (paraphrased):
“Never rely on blind faith, heresay or the opinions of others or the herd mentaility. There are three steps to the development of faith. First, there is a positive intuitive response to something or someone. One feels drawn to it. The second stage is to then submit it to rigorous intellectual scrutiny. If you are satisfied that it holds up to rigorous intellectual scrutiny, and it still seems sound, then test its validity out in your experience as scrupulously as a goldsmith tests metal for gold. If it still seems sound, then and only then do you put your faith in it.”
Maybe definitions are askew. Criticism’s not the problem, criticize away. The trend of criticism, however, seems to be hitting a groundswell b/c the folks working directly on the projects took a break. Question everything twice if u like, more’s the better, the more individually the better, but doesn’t it remind u a bit of Xmas approaching and kids going through closets to find the goodies beforehand? It’s obvious it’s not quite “open for business” just yet, and they did say they were going to the desert for a few days. No doubt everybody’s chomping at the bit, but they did say they were going to the desert for a few days. I held a lot of garage sales when moving a few years back, and people would come up and see what you had, then gripe about it b/c it wasn’t quite what they were looking for. Several just stuffed things in their bags and drove away real fast B4 anyone could get a handle on what they were doing. I guess it’s human nature to want to “control the flow” so to speak, and it looks to me like the process here just bogged down for a few days, so everyone’s not a happy camper. So it goes.
Once again, consider: faith and positive outlook are two totally distinct things…
They can be distinct, but are not necessarily so. Perhaps it would be more relevant to define ‘negativity’……if we were to do so we would surely find that most often it is only one’s own perception which defines something as negative. Often people will define as negative something they don’t want to hear, and imho they may not want to hear it because it makes them uncomfortable or it may trigger a fear response in them. Is that a reason to suppress expression?
From the point of view of ‘absolute data’, and according to Heather’s own stated principles, and if if OPPT is genuine and of pure intent, what harm can it do to anything if some people express doubts in it or criticise it or question it?
It seems to me there is much more harm to be done by attempting to suppress honest, harmless discussion.
Once again - not necessarily, lol <3
Here’s something I don’t understand. During the radio shows, whenever anyone has asked about ‘tangible’ value - ie. hard cash being available to prevent their foreclosure, feed their children, put a roof over their head, the response seems invariably to have been that when we know we are eternal essence absent limit, and when we are ‘BEing and DOing’, we simply manifest what we need. I have in mind something Heather said quite recently in this regard, and when I have time I will search out that quote.
So - that being the case, why is it that there have been requests for donations of hard cash for AK, D’s computer and now BZ and also a subscription for Project 13
It’s not that I mind donating and/or paying for a service, I don’t and I would willingly pay more to allow others to access something valuable…. it’s just that this anomalous to me. Doesn’t this suggest that Heather and the crew seem to be saying one thing and doing another?
I hear what some are saying regarding the need for there to be an exchange of value - but the only people who seem to be requesting hard cash as part of that exchange of value are the very people who are also saying others shouldn’t need hard cash because if they know who they really are, they will manifest everything they need.
I accept that I may have missed an important point here - but please don’t ask me to override my common sense. Remember there is an intense war against common sense being waged across the planet by the cabal as part of their mind offensive.
This is just one question I am pondering and which, as yet, has not passed my scrutiny test……… and an airy fairy ‘you don’t understand eternal essence absent limits’ just won’t cut it for me. Perhaps I do understand, and perhaps that is why I am pondering this question.
I’m wondering if the timeliness of the situation with Swissindo may have some direct bearing on that(?). There’s a lot still to be revealed, so while I’m waiting, just trying to have a positive outlook, I’m not investing in any specific outcome one way or the other. I’ll take whatever I get. If the only thing that materializes is the potential to stave off the system with the CN’s, then so be it. I don’t think the I-UV crew can predict those sorts of things either. Does the guru make the guru, or do the people make the guru?
Yes, I’m still open minded - and nothing would make me happier than to see the PTW toppled and an end to the terrible and un-necessary suffering in the world, but as yet I see no real sign of that happening. We have seen the odd success story from people using the CN’s - and that’s excellent, but still just a tiny drop in the ocean compared to the scale of suffering which needs to be remedied.
I wouldn’t put much stock in Swissindo. They have been writing checks they can’t cash for years.
Again, I’m not putting stock in anything. Just watching and wondering, along w/the rest of u. What I was wondering is if that may have some bearing on there not being a specific announcement about actual money being available when the questions about it were posed earlier. None of us has all the answers, and I’m glad of that. For me, questions have been more helpful than answers for a long time.
I’m not sure how the Swissindo thing would explain why Heather et all seem to tell people that they don’t need cash - that they need to BE and DO eternal essence absent limits and they will manifest what they need, while at the same time they are asking (and in the most recent example asking with an ‘URGENT’ tag) for cash to help once again rescue a member of the crew.
The argument put forward for asking for donations was that if BZ doesn’t receive the cash, this website will fold. I mean - with all their powers of manifestation, and with the alleged ability to underwrite a global RV to the tune of billions of dollars, I find it hard to believe that they would have no choice but to let a website, which they perceive as core to the initiative to change the world, fold and therefore jeopardise the initiative because they can’t manifest what they need for it to stay active.
Am I missing something here?
When there was a groundswell of positivity, that was fully and totally embraced as valid. If there is now a groundswell of questions and/or criticisms, shouldn’t that be embraced as valid too? Until there is irrefutable tangible evidence one way or the other, like you, I will be holding both and watching to see how things develop.
I don’t personally agree with the ‘xmas’ analogy - there are many people who are suffering terribly and who desperately need help, and a carrot has been dangled in front of them.
If we are each to take responsibility for our actions - and again, Heather claims to do this - we can’t ignore the important point that many promises have been made, some of which, when questioned, have been obfuscated - and people who believed in those promises and who desperately needed the assistance promised are feeling disappointed. Heather and crew did definitely raise those expectations, they didn’t come from nowhere, and so they are answerable……and some of that same crew are now asking for financial assistance from the rest of us. Something is just not adding up for me right now.
If Heather can allegedly underwrite the RV to the tune of billions of dollars and thereby make it happen, why can’t she underwrite BZ’s rent on a supa dupa apartment for her?
I read on facebook:
I UV: Oh it is coming alright!!! There were some technical glitches (this is to be a worldwide system) but it is coming to your fingertips any moment.Big project,few people.Unexpected happens. Patience….
I hesitate to stick my nose back in again this am because I have a commitment to babysit that will force me to put it down. But nevertheless here I go. The age revelations struck home I guess, I’m 66 and like John I’ve been engaged to some degree since JFK was assasinated.in this conspiracy theory turned reality mess. In my “hippie” days I was made aware of the corruption at all levels by my brief contact with 2 different drug cartels. I learned that there was no such thing as smuggling, at least , not for the big boys. All shipments were walked, driven, shipped, or flown thru customs on previously arranged schedules. Obviously the cooperation had to reach the highest levels, up to and including the executive branch. Congress, judicial, law enforcement and even the military (CI? and air america shipping drugs to USA in body bags) were involved. For me,. too big to fight and I couldn’t get my heart in joining so I took a semi-passive stance and kept my mouth shut. The american dream became at worst, a nightmare, and at best, uneasy sleep. I almost got rich one time when I worked myself into a position of minority stock ownership in 2 oil field service companies but that was taken away when the Cabal manipulated the oil prices and took the Austin Chalk field independants out of the game and my companies along with them. Price of oil dropped from $42 barrel to $17 barrel in 30 days and stayed there long enough to teach the little guys their lesson and me along with them.Of course, back then I had no idea of the size of the conspiracy, but again, it was too big for me to fight. Since then, I’ve never allowed myself to dream too big. My saying became,”As long as the public supports pro wrestling, there will be no hope for major change in status quo”and I preached civil disobedience in the form of non voting. I figured if , one day, there was an election, and no one showed up, that we might get their attention. Stupid huh. Just thoughts of an impotent slave as it turns out. But in 2013, something changes, I start receiving info from my disillusioned exbanker cousin about UFO’s, bank scandals, governments whistleblowers etc., etc. Maybe there’s hope. He sent me post on OPPT filings and plan to disburse 50 bn to every one on the planet, got my attention, but I even if it was true, I could only see chaos and confusion coming from that kind of move and put Heather and group on back burner. UFO’s and disclosure got my attention and I saw another wedge taking shape. The Cabal and the Illuminati stories were coming from mutliple sources and tying everything together. St Germain trust, Neil Keenan, Cobra, ET’s, OPPT, Ascencion all got connected.Now there’s real hope. My point, OPPT alone would never have had a chance, but now we have a conspiracy ourselves and I believe it has the teeth to make the change. I think any move that Heather’s group makes needs to be done in conjunction with the rest of the movement. Maybe they are ready, but according to Cobra, the “Event” will not be triggered by human beings . John, we’ve waited over 40 years to get some payback, a few more days, weeks, months, or even years are doable. Positive energy is important, so if you have trouble manifesting the positive, at least respect everyone else’s need. Once again, spread the light.
Sonya It was not an argument, that’s ego. Its an observation which could be wrong. At the end of the day what will be will be. That statement validates it self. The choice is a state of balance is necessary in to be in harmony. Or you can Fight the Illusion. Relax and be at Peace.
Ok, it wasn’t an argument, it was a statement. But I think my point is still valid….in that what you perceive in others is also a reflection of your inner self.
I do agree with you that balance and harmony are necessary, I just don’t agree that people expressing questions our doubts, courteously an respectfully, is ego or negative or an indication of lack of balance or harmony.
Relax and let others’ be.
My point was simply that, now the I-UV crew has gone for a bit, everyone’s piled up @ the gate, so to speak, getting somewhat bent out of shape about this and that, when, why don’t folks just save the crabby stuff for when someone comes back that they can address directly? I never said anything was wrong with Q’s. God forbid. Sure it’s a carrot of sorts, but my examples were to illustrate just that - when somethings wanted or expected really badly, people tend to project ahead of time, and when the do that, they wind up disappointing themselves. For me, it remains to be seem whether the I-UV crew is going to disappoint anybody. They haven’t disappointed me so far, and they haven’t made any hard & fast promises, but I do see folks interpreting what they say as hard & fast promises. Sorry if my examples weren’t as clear as they could be. Just saying, human nature is such that, this is what happens. That doesn’t mean (to me for a fact) that this entire exercise is not valid. Everyone has their way of looking @ things, but people as a whole do tend to behave in certain predictable ways. Not knocking that, except this temporary lull is to me, just a time for people to be checking back, not raising the roof with their objections, esp. when the I-UV crew isn’t readily available to address their concerns just now. Super we’re all exchanging thoughts about it, but my view was that this was a place to exchange thoughts amongst ourselves, not the complaint dept. I’m not 5D yet, and don’t claim to be, although I am an empathic person, only I’ve learned through the years to hold the emotion at bay for a bit and assess the situation. Glad for all the constructive comments, though, 4sure.
Ken, thx for the uplifting thoughts. Have fun babysitting! I did that all LAST week!
In time we’ll see how it all pans out.
For me the good thing about a situation such as this is the interactions with some lovely, genuine, sincere, like-hearted people. Thanks Lisa and John, I’ve enjoyed and appreciated your interactions and your energies very much.
Love to you both - and to everyone
Please God, give me patience, and I need it right now before I go babysitting.
Lol!
Sorry, Sonya, just caught one earlier reply of ur’s, and I may not have been as clear as I could have. The faith I meant, was faith in a particular outcome (don’t think I specified faith in what…). One can believe a particular outcome is imminent and that’s faith in that particular outcome. What I’m talking about is positive outLOOK. Not the same thing. If you go look in a dictionary, u’ll find different definitions for those 2 things. I don’t have anything INVESTED in however this entire I-UV situation unfolds. I am grateful for what has unfolded to date. My outlook is positive because I don’t really care if money manifests or not. I have to stake in the outcome. Maybe that’s where the misunderstanding lies… Enjoyed u’r feedback, though. I always get some little nugget from just about everyone’s comment.
Please don’t apologise, Lisa - lots of things aren’t clear right now for most of us, lol, and we’re all doing our best, and most of all we want the same thing because we really are coming from our hearts. I appreciate your openness and kind energy. Thanx.
Sorry, Sonya, just caught one earlier reply of ur’s, and I may not have been as clear as I could have. The faith I meant, was faith in a particular outcome (don’t think I specified faith in what…). One can believe a particular outcome is imminent and that’s faith in that particular outcome. What I’m talking about is positive outLOOK. Not the same thing. If you go look in a dictionary, u’ll find different definitions for those 2 things. I don’t have anything INVESTED in however this entire I-UV situation unfolds. I am grateful for what has unfolded to date. My outlook is positive because I don’t really care if money manifests or not. I have no stake in the outcome. Maybe that’s where the misunderstanding lies… Enjoyed u’r feedback, though. I always get some little nugget from just about everyone’s comment.
Thx Sonya, appreciate your tenaciousness!!!!!
<3
If all the genuine different alternative truth groups came together and acted as one on a solution which could truly provide real remedy, it would be fantastic.
I’m just not sure whether I currently believe we are at that point with OPPT. However, I remain open and hope my doubts prove to be unfounded, because nothing would make me happier. I absolutely believe, however, KNOW even, that one day that WILL happen.
Interesting. I just came across this on the Nesara website!!!
Subject: == NOTICE TO PROCEED ==
To: [email protected]
Hello Every One and Good Day, trust all is well,
Thank you for your due diligence.
NOTICE TO PROCEED
NOTICE TO ALL / OFFICES / LEVELS / OBSERVERS
NOTICE TO AGENTS / PRINCIPALS
I AM, hereby,
I AM
RIGHT NOW
SIGNING FOR THE ‘RV’ AND THE ‘RD’
AS ONE UNDERWRITING FOR THE HIGHEST GOOD OF ALL
=SIGNED, ED LANSING=
=ALL RIGHTS RESERVED LIMITLESS HEART ETERNAL=
=ABSOLUTE DATA RECONCILED
Thx Sonya, fun debate. Hang in there Ken, it’s DOable, right? Have a great day both of u!
With all due respect, I am surprised you are all still here debating this matter no wonder the last call was Heathers last? Show me the I page with 10 billion to start with ? Heather could have been kidnapped or lost in the Sahara without FRN s We pray for her speedy and safe return
Love and Peace
Oh well, maybe they can catch a water truck back into civilization…
Or, perhaps, a horse with no name.
I’m always a little concerned when a bunch of new agers desiring to ascend head into the desert. Seriously.
Imaginary scene; Principal rides into town and shows up at a slave auction. He says “I have paid for your freedom and on this early date I will come and release you.” Slaves cheer with relief, plan their futures of freedom, pack to leave! Principal never returns…
Get ready
I see you survived, lol.
Not done, but good so far. Can’t type well anyway, but really tuff, one handed.
I was talking to a man, he told me his name was Godot - he seemed very informed and said to just keep waiting…..
Come, Come, now Children, with the exception to those positive once like me and many others who believes in the project 13 who are very grateful for the work done by the op-pt and the people associated with it and has chosen to make the chose to keep believing knowing that all will be done in the right time. but listening to all those vicious and negative comments though they be valid, do reminds me of the story in the bible of Moses going up in the mountains to receive the 10 commandments, but while away the people started questioning and murmuring, and questioning, why this and why that? why are we not in that promised land yet why didn’t he built it this way or that way?. used this or that? etc etc sometimes things happens to give us the opportunity to judge our won readiness our own journey, this is not about project 13 alone it’s about our readiness our growth, project 13 is us, we are building it as well, with our energy our love, our hope our prayers as well, so lets not find our-self turning back to Egypt or the old system that only wants to continue enslaving us,lets continue to build this ark together, so send love and light. much love to all……you continue to build Caleb you have our support to the end… much love.
With the greatest of respect, questioning IS positive. What have you built so far with the energy and love and hope and prayers you refer to? How many people has that fed? How many people’s lives have you saved? How many wars have you stopped? And please show me ONE poster who has suggested they want to retain the old system? You use the word ‘return’, and my use of the word ‘retain’ here is deliberate, because as of yet I haven’t seen the old system’s demise. I wish that were not so.
I have to say I’m quite bemused, even a little shocked, that so many people who profess to understand and support the OPPT initiative do not wish to allow others their free will expression of questions and doubts, and at the same time claim some kind of spiritual superiority. Can’t you see the paradox in that?
Why do questions and doubts bother you? What fear of yours does it touch on?
Can’t you see that those of us who have expressed questions and doubts ARE acting in love and coming from the light.
Can’t you see that the desire to suppress honest dialogue and different points of view is all about a wish to control others - which is the very essence of the current slavery system?
Consider this quote by Voltaire: “I disagree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” ?
Isn’t that more in keeping with the spirit of true freedom and love?
Can’t think of a more classic analogy, AL50. Actually from their latest video, it appears they may have joined up with the “French Foreign Legion.” Ya’ll’s comments are a total hoot!
Hi Sonya! As a total worrywart (wort?) myself, or rather a former one, I used to spread my worries all over the place. My dear little 80′s+ mom would look @ me and smile and knit on her latest pair of bizarre colored socks she was making, and tell me that she’d prefer to not think about certain things she couldn’t directly or indirectly at the moment do anything about, that she would pray about those things. For months I thought she was being irresponsible by relegating those things to prayer only. She prays for hours every night. I’ve caught her doing it when spending the night @ her house. Off and on, she prays. I began to notice over those months the news was getting more noticeably transparent, things were beginning to happen behind the scenes and then all the global protests broke out, most of the peaceful. A new picture was emerging of the people coming together everywhere. I was such a worrywart in my earlier years, that I think I may have adversely affected my oldest child, who now suffers acute anxiety. Having been a worrywart for so long, and now, having exchanged the worrying for doing research and learning about things, I can honestly say, I hung up my worry hat for both myself and my fellow BE’ings. I realized that the creator designed the Universe to take care of us, no matter what. Not from a religious angle (which I now see as not transparent), but from a “mechanical” angle, if u will, the Universe simply takes care of us. If we have a tough time here in this realm, we go to a place to rest, then come back and try it again, at will. (See the late Dr. Ian Stevenson, University of Va.’s research, or Dr. Jim Tucker, U of Va. also, he’s still there I think). There’s not any need to worry about things, one can only do what one is capable of doing at the moment, so the DO’ing and BE’ing for the moment doesn’t have to max out a person’s anxieties, which only feeds back negatively to that person and others. Course, everyone gets total hung up on the ego’s desire to preserve everything as it is here and now, but that’s not higher self doing that. If one can make that distinction, the one can free up from the anxieties created by this “illusion” we are in currently wherein we think we have to “survive” as we are. Probably not what most people want to hear, but if one were to delve into the subject matter, it might help a person relax and stop worrying, or at least exercise enough patience to see one through for a little while when patience is helpful. It’s so admirable to care about one’s fellow man to the point of anxing about getting out there and “gettin’ ‘er done” for all those folks in a bad way, but there again, many of those people chose their situations (hard as that may be to comprehend), and the 3D point of view is to “save the world”, while at the same time, the 5D point of view could be said to need those very challenging situations people find themselves in for their own chosen spiritual growth. Speaking of Godot, one could very easily extrapolate the waiting period there into a spiritual growth opportunity from a 5D vantage point. Some folks “get” this without all the “new age” perspective stuff, as they mature and get older. I thought I had more relevant info than my mom did as I was researching all of this stuff over the decades, but I have to concede, she was spiritually right on from the beginning, even though we don’t see eye2eye on the religious angle. What occurs in the spiritual realm is what really matters, this 3D outward “illusion” we see is just that, so we don’t need to take everyone’s problems onto ourselves. I did that for years, and would up with ulcers and my oldest child has anxiety issues. It is a way of BE’ing that just doesn’t serve very well, even if its intentions are good. Hope this doesn’t sound like I’m trying to control anyone’s perspective. This is just my personal research coming from a broader perspective that I wish I’d had decades ago… Best to u all…
Good god! People put all sorts of spin on what others write. Lisa, I am not worrying or anxious. I am simply asking questions and expressing reservations. Why does that bother you so much? What fears of yours are being triggered?
Hey again, well it’s actually Lisi with an “i” (short for Elisi)…but to answer u’r Q. Not aiming all that info @ u directly necessarily, Just putting it out there in case u or anyone else might like to check it out. I’m all for asking Q’s, I ran across “Summerhill” my first yr @ college, working in the Ed. library, and it so strongly resonated w/me that I actually brought my kids up on that basis, even though my predecessors were all strict authoritarians. I’m only saying, what’s wrong with “wait & see”? I’m glad everyone’s asking Q’s, although I get the impression some folks are taking out their anxieties on the I-UV site, which is okay I guess, but some of them (not sayin’ it’s u, so pls. don’t read this as being pointed directly at any one person), actually make me feel “down”. Maybe I’m just defending myself against that sensation. I’ve been empathic forever and it wears me out unless I counter it by either ignoring things or rebutting them. My apologies if my responses seem unfriendly, not meant to be that way. I think though that reservations perhaps could be more effectively answered by the I-UV folks when they return. Any time anyone asks a Q, it makes me curious also, but I suppose I’ve satisfied my curiosity about a lot of things, so I’m okay with waiting during this interim of seemingly not a lot of activity where we’d all like to see activity, so not sure what else to say there. If I have any immediate fears they would be along the lines of wanting to stay positive just for the sake of not taking on any anxieties myself, and wanting to do what I can to reassure anyone who may be anxing themselves. If u’r not anxing, that’s great, but I haven’t seen anyone from I-UV answer directly into these threads regarding substantive Q’s, so just sayin’. Sorry if my response was offensive to anyone.
No offence taken, Lisa, thank you. I can genuinely empathise with you being an ‘empath’, and taking on other people’s energies. Believe it or not, lol, I used to have the same experience, had been like that all my life. However, a few months ago I read an article which explained that empaths need to be able to switch off their empathy in order to stop it ‘running amok’ (no criticism intended), - and since I learned to do that it has made a huge difference to me. Before that I felt like a sponge - absorbing all the energies around me because my ever-present tendency to empathy, which I had no control over, left me wide open for that. The difference has been amazing.
I agree, nothing is wrong with ‘wait and see’ and that’s exactly what I am doing….. and in the meantime I’ve engaged in some enjoyable dialogue with some lovely people on here, and am also defending my right to express questions and reservations because a few posters have wanted to suppress that dialogue.
I have no problem at all if people disagree or don’t share my views - but, when I have the time and energy, I will always rebut any suggestion that I should remain silent because questions/reservations are ‘negative’. Frankly, I think that’s nonsense, and I agree with you that questioning is how we learn and understand, and it’s also how we sort out the wheat from the chaff. Reservations I have expressed may prove to be unfounded, which would be excellent, but they may also yet prove to be valid….at this point there are few, if any tangibles to rely on, and I also believe that it’s through dialogue that we learn to think for ourselves instead of relying on others.
For sure, some of the I-UV crew would be in a position to give informed answers to some of the questions, but, as you say, at the moment they aren’t doing that - and I also find it very valuable to discuss things with others, and see what questions, if any, they have.
With love.
Thanks Lisi. I am so with you. I too spent a great deal of my years in the worrying and trapped in fear spinning myself into fits of anxiety. Fortunately by the the grace of God I was able to start breathing, waiting it out and noticing that 99% of the time I spent precious energy and valuable time worrying about what if’s that never came to pass. Now when I battle the fear I too start researching and sometimes have to look inside to determine what is triggering my fear that leads to the worrying.
Thanks to you also Sonya for holding the space for those who need to ask questions and should be free to do so and to express their concerns.
I personally am committed to holding the positive energy and the light for the crew and all of humanity engaged in bringing in the changes we are all seeking. That being said there have been quite a few allegations and comments not questions that have also brought me down so I have had to purposefully turn away from the blog and seek other avenues for insight and positive reinforcement. That’s ok because it’s not here just for me but had to speak the truth as it applies to me. I love you ALL!!!!!
ps. Apologies for mis-spelling your name - again, Lisi.
Thanks, enjoyed your comments, Tonia & Sonya. (wondering if u’r names rhyme??).
O, forgot to mention, enjoyed John’s comment about the “horse w/no name”. Good laugh!
OK, confused? We all have Trusts? Correct? The ppl’s wealth has been returned? Correct? The point I am trying to make is I understand the fee, but what is this, put in value to get some? Now we r on another page, plz bring me back to the page we r suppose to be on? I really would appreciate it.
Oh yeah, and overlooked mentioning got a big kick out of Ken’s typing w/one arm LOL!
Love the phenomenal energy of the discussion u’ve been having lately! Just got done watching a movie that really surprised me with its depth; never expected the Metaphysical to show up so blatantly. It’s called “Cafe”…sort of Matrixy with a diff vibe. Screenwriter is Marc Erlbaum (2010). Has anyone seen it? If not, I recommend it highly. Love/Compassion/Courage and so much more…WE ARE ALL CONNECTED. Luv u all:)
Just ran onto this, which you many of u may already have seen, but if not, might find interesting:
Fix the World Founder and CEO Naima Feagin HopeGirl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5QXy3RiLyoo#!
I love this…thanks for sharing it here. Very inspiring.
This is a discussion on how CVACs might work. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB6KD0420pk
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1929252/2013-06-07%2021-24-36%20SkypeCall_muxi.mp3 info from 7 june
Thanks for posting.
This has devolved into a cult.
I injoyed this Michael. Thanks for posting it. Moxie reminds me a lot of D. Lol
yawn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B71_u0JVtyM&sns=em
Sam
(Aquarius, with leo rising).
yawn.
I prefer this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B71_u0JVtyM&sns=em
Sam
(Aquarius, with leo rising).
Hi All, Before you lose heart have a look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B71_u0JVtyM The awakening is unfolding before our eyes every where for the whole world to see clearly through the mainstream media now. I admit there have been moments when I have felt dis-heartened by The One People but I think we should not lose hope. It is already happening without any further TOP Do’ing.. Like Heather has said ” It is Done”, Well I say “Hear it Comes” So please refrain from expecting/needing Project xiii to be the saviour of your souls. They have already done that. We just need to wake up from a deep sleep/coma. Love Ya All Absolute Cheers xooxoo
Peter - that’s exactly the same link I just posted! (twice - sorry folks).
And please refrain from telling other people to refrain!!! Ha ha. Let them BE and DO man.
I envision this site like a porthole though the Matrix and many of us are so blinded that we can’t see the forest from the trees? You and I and everyone is creating the new world vision that “The One People” speak of. Please fill it with positive energy NOW so that it can manifest into the Universe for all Eternity.. Love and Light.
I think that June 7 audio linked above is pretty revealing. These gurus have lost interest in in the 3D world and the problems of 3D people and are out in the desert trying to open some kind of portal into other dimensions and to call down space aliens. The whole thing has become just another new age cult.
And what is really sad is that hurting 3D people, with very little 3D money, have donated a lot of FRN’s to the formerly impoverished gurus, only to have them go into the desert and try to call down space aliens. It’s beyond despicable.
Are they hurting you personally John?
Yes, they are. I’m not so egocentric that I don’t care about what is happening to others. The Internet is full of crooks and scam artists. If you claim you are no longer interested in money, you should not be accepting donations of money from others. That goes to the very definition of dishonest.
Good grief you’ve summed all that is wrong right there in that sentiment….
How very ’80′s of you ; )
I hear you..and the irritation and circumvention of direct questions when confronted by the likes of listeners such as Isa.
I think we need to ‘let it go’.
I would think this is natural progression happening here. If it doesn’t resonate entirely, perhaps people pay more energy to people like Chris Hales who CLEARLY treads on eggshells around Lisa’s MONSTROUS ego. Heather slaps him down all time too when he’s simply trying his darndest to make their guff intelligible to the 3D hordes they purport to want to ‘free’. I won’t be signing up to Project 13, however ‘cool’ a tool it is.
As a final aside, people, if it does launch, I would STRONGLY suggest you consider the issue of child pornography. It’s been touched on before and rather alarmingly, and somewhat naively, brushed aside. Any web based platform that allows for totally secure transfer of data of any kind is going to be a honey-pot for those that wish to transfer abusive imagery, videos and the like.
It’s a SERIOUS concern, and altruistic libertarians cite the fact these types of people will use any and all other means regardless to traffic porn…that said…to knowingly create a secure encrypted system in the name of our liberties, which will absolutely become a conduit for this material with a nanosecond of it being released, as a community, I would urge folks to press caleb to consider this and ask if there are certain remedies to combat that from an administrative perspective. Yes it sounds like the ‘Nanny state’ mentality we all hate (and i’ll get accused of trolling no doubt too - or ‘negativity’) but it was my immediate concern and I was going to wait for release to bring it up.
I see how ‘woolly’ the thinking is of some of the followers of this movement, and the outright good hearts of the many who simply fail to see how this would “attract those types” etc etc…that’s dangerous. It will almost attract ‘those types’ and none of you will be any the wiser because they will be doing it without your knowledge. Please please I’m asking from a good place..not telling….just consider this issue down the line as a potential abuse that none of you will want to see.
It would also be a magnet for terrorists. A means of communicating that the governments of the world cannot access. Which is one of the reasons it will not be tolerated by them (and I’m no advocate of government snooping).
Sam, I listened to the audio and while I appreciate the willingness of all of them to take the time to talk to us I was not impressed with Moxie whose tone was harsh and scornful most of the time, but also her & their data was not helpful to those of us who were uplifted by the earlier promise of a return of our energy that has been stolen. What was needed was a status report on that energy; where is it?; when will we have access to it?
My interest in that energy is that it can provide me with power that can help me level the playing field against those who now use position and violence to maintain the status quo. This keeps me in a slave state to some degree. I am very willing to communicate to others that to be free of this oppression we must band together and cooperate with each other to create a system outside the existing one that will gradually starve off the one we don’t want. But there is so much suffering being experienced by so many because of the way things are that a means to speed up the process via access to the energy that has been stolen seems important and vital.
In earlier radio shows Heather had promised that that energy was secured and was ready for release. It now feels like a sabotage of my energy & my good intent of helping others that she & the other trustees withdraw all communication of knowledge about that subject and to now ignore us, or berate us, for having expectations of them. My energy feels blocked and festering. Was it the intent of Heather, Caleb and the other trustee that started this to create this effect? If so, what was the point? If not, then why not continue to be responsible for those whose energy they engaged with their story of hope and change and do what they can to keep that energy clean and strong with true data about what is happening? If they don’t know what is happening and have lost control of the situation then telling us that would also be maintaining responsibility for the character of our energy and our trust in them.
Apologies - I hadn’t seen your response Trish till now. I completely feel the same. I think all of us here are really of similar mind in terms of a common ground, we just come at things from a different perspective. I like your openness and willingness for discourse. I hope those managing this website can get the message through that some people would like some meaningful updates regarding the movement that was set in motion and the tools that were promised to those that are neither inclined through free choice, or lack of some perceived insight, to care about 5D levels of being right now. Basic respect.
The only reality that the OPPT “leaders” are responsible for is their own. As are the rest of us. When each of us realizes that fact personal and group progress will speed up”.Questioning “, that Sonya, John, and others refer to is indeed alright. I have questions of my own, but unlike you, I ask them of people that have the ability to answer them. So, my question for John and Sonya is this, why are you here? What are your expectations ? Do you actually believe that someone here can help you? Do you realize that the questions you are asking can only be answered by people that obviously have no need,desire, or ability to answer them. Do you actually believe that by asking these “questions” that you are “helping” the starving 3d masses? Ask yourself what your agenda here is, then let us know. Finally, negative energy is negative energy no matter what guise it comes under. BS yourself if you must but spare the rest of us that are just trying to grow.
Ken, I’m “helping the starving 3D masses” by making a significant donation to Oxfam International every month and to our local food bank, not giving my money to new age gurus who claim they no longer have any need for money. I gave Heather the benefit of the doubt back in January, six months later it is becoming abundantly clear what she is.
Again, why are you here? Move on and put your help where it’s wanted.
Ken, John explained why he is here in earlier posts. I am glad for you that you are in a position to make significant donations to Oxfam and your local food bank. That must make you feel good. Not all of us have such luxuries or security. You are ignoring the fact that the OPPT “leaders” engaged our energy by promising a return to us of our energy that has been stolen. We, like you, want to help end suffering. If questions are being asked here of other posters it is because we don’t have access to those that created this game. My hope is that by posting here the message will get through to the creators of this web site and they will do something to provide us with data that will allow us to make a right decision about what to do with our energy now. Your lecture at the end of your earlier post has also created judgement and negative energy. Please be kind to those without your advantages.
Woops! I just realized that it is JOHN who is making the donations to Oxfam and the food bank. Well done John!
The rest of my comment stands.
Trish you’re right, I’m new here. But I’m not new to OPPT or the “Ascencion” movement. I came here to see if if anyone could shed”light” on OPPT development, but instead I found people spreading dark and others defending their faith in the light movement. The answers that I’ve gotten and the realizations that I’ve had come from a great number of other sources. Most of those sources’ at least, the credible ones have dried up to a large degree. Intentionally, I’m told. Gives me time to join this thread and share my thoughts and opinions. It’s intentional that I am directing my questions to the members here that are asking the most questions, knowing full well that no . one here can give them an answer that they can accept. My questions specifically are to people that can but won’t address them. The answers to the questions that are being asked do have answers, some of which I believe I have, I’ve spent something like 75 gigs in downloads to get them. But in the end, I was directed to them from the most unlikely sources. I believe that all answers are available to the sincere seeker. If they sincerely believe that they will come from here, so be it. I personally believe that they are not sincere seekers and in fact have another agenda. My question remains to them, why are they here?
Help me out here Trish, I scrolled through posts to top of page. Can’t find John’s explanation. Can you repost it or at least direct me to it?
I am one of the 3d people that is in need and I definitely don’t want your help. Anyone else here need John’s type of help?
So, it’s Heather’s kind of help you need?
How’s that working out?
My understanding of the process that the planet is undergoing allows me to appreciate the part that OPPT has and is playing. But it’s just a part and it’s a significant part.but there are others players involved all the dominoes must fall. My belief is that by the time access to value is given, the need will be dealt with already in other ways. But to answer your question, it’s working out fine, Rome was not torn down in a day.
I agree with you Ken. There are many others working on this process too. I also know that no one can save my soul but ME. I am a victim of the abuse you all are speaking of and I suffered and endured any made my choice to rise above. The things I read and hear about the abuse that runs amok on this planet mostly at the hands of the ptw is angering and heart breaking and the one thing I know for certain is we can’t beat the dark with dark energy. It has to be love and light. We are all responsible to ourselves first and foremost and there is a battle raging on our planet between the dark and light right now and the message I got from my dreams was to ENGAGE and so I have. Peace, love, compassion, understanding and cooperation is what will get us there…in my opinion. I love you ALL!!!
I agree that more and more people are waking up to the reality of the way our 3D world is controlled, and to other dimensional possibilities.
It concerns me, however, to see it suggested that this is all thanks to the OPPT. Many thousands of dedicated individuals have been working tirelessly for decades in whichever way they can, to sustain and further that process of ‘awareness’ (I don’t really like ‘awakening’ , it tends to create a ‘them and us’ division). The OPPT initiative may well have helped make some more people aware, but, Peter, please speak for yourself. If you believe TOP has saved your soul, that is great, but I do not subscribe to your view that they have saved mine.
The rising collective awareness is the result of a massive and sustained effort by many dedicated people over decades. To write that off as insignificant is, in my opinion, to deny the truth, nor do I yet see any tangible evidence that anything has been ‘saved’.
Although it has been stated that the governments, banks and corporations have been foreclosed on - to all intents and purposes they still seem to be functioning as before … so it seems, from my vantage point at least, that very little, if anything, has changed so far in our 3D reality.
It seems to me that many people have totally bought into this despite a lack of any real tangible evidence, because they want it to be true. That’s their free choice which I respect, but wanting something to be true doesn’t make it true, and if we want it to be true badly enough we may override our common sense and ignore anything which doesn’t fit with our hope-based belief. I respect everyone’s right to do that - to believe whatever they choose. I just don’t accept their claims that they are right and others who see things differently are wrong.
Hope is not fact.
At the moment I personally sense there is something of a collective ‘guru’ projection going on - and a ‘herd’ mentality which says that anyone who is questioning or has concerns/doubts are just spiritually inferior because they don’t get it. In my experience that kind of dynamic is unhealthy, it’s what happens in cults and has nothing at all to do with genuine ‘spirituality’ which sees each embodiment as equal, precious and absolutely free to have their own unique experience and express themselves freely, as long as no harm is done to another.
If people don’t like seeing questions and concerns raised, or criticisms made, that is their stuff and it’s up to them to deal with it.
Again I ask, what is it about questions and criticisms that you are afraid of? If you had total faith in this project it couldn’t affect you in any negative way.
As it stands - no-one has been able to answer some extremely simple and very important questions which have been raised on this thread, which is interesting in itself.
From a basic level of simple courtesy, at least an update should have been provided.
If someone invited you to dinner and they weren’t home when you turned up because they had gone away on a jolly and hadn’t bothered to tell you - wouldn’t you say they should have let you know?
They had the time and enough access to the internet to write asking for donations for BZ - so there’s no reason why they couldn’t have taken 5 minutes to post an update, as basic courtesy says they should have done?
I don’t know where they are nor what they are doing……nor indeed who is funding all this for them because it isn’t cheap to do what they are doing and, according to what they themselves said, they were all broke just a few weeks ago. And clearly, despite what they say to others, they cannot manifest hard cash because they have to keep asking their ‘followers’ for that when they need it. I think there have been requests for donations for at least 4 of them now.
Hi Peter, With all respect it’s great that you believe TOP has saved your soul, but please speak for yourself because I don’t share your view that they have saved mine.
It’s always good to be aware of the Delphi technique.
http://www.vlrc.org/articles/110.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rjoI7-esOw
In observing these fair open and honest exchanges of opinions, everyone is entitled to their ideas and beliefs and Ken should not be judge mental of others open ideas and beliefs.
If you don’t like others opinions then maybe it is you who should leave this blog I enjoy everyone’s opinions and respect them for their contributions to this conversation as to whether heather and Caleb Brian D are frauds or not Time will certainly give us the answer , and we will have to wait and see So far their statements as to the I page with value and a safe environment for free and open exchanges have not materialized. We need the original 13 th amendment back into our constitution that lawyers cannot hold public office and be bidders for their bribe paying masters I have much empathy for Chris Hales who tries to make this movement respectable and honest Heather and Lisa have been very hard on Chris whom I respect very much Time will give us our answers so let’s let this thing play out I love you all for your contributions to this movement : )
Judgemental? Yea, I am. Are you, is John, is Sonya? Is anyone here not?
Ken,
I don’t know whether TOP is genuine or not, that’s one reason why I am here. I’ve never said it wasn’t, nor am I completely persuaded it is. At first I was 95% behind it. Since then questions have arisen in my mind which have created reservations - for me, in my own mind.
You ask why I am posting here. Here is my reply to your question:
I am posting here because it is an open forum for open comments/discussion about the specific subject I’m interested in. I also chose to write my questions and reservations here because I thought that ( a) Heather et all might read this thread and address people’s issues, or (b) that comments made here may be passed on to them, and replies passed back, or (c) one of the moderators may have more information and be able to provide some kind of relevant information, or (d) one of the other readers may be able to provide some of the information or present a different angle which would either resolve an issue for me or take my thinking on it further.
I have not tried to force anyone to agree with me, nor have I criticised anyone for having different beliefs.
At this point I have no expectations of Heather and crew, I am interested enough to choose to stay connected to the process and observe the developments to see how it all unfolds.
I also very much appreciate reading other people’s views and the exchanges I’ve had with many other lovely people of like mind and who I resonate with.
After my first couple of posts, for the most part I’ve defended my right to express my questions and doubts here, in response to comments made by one or two.
So, Ken, since I’ve answered your question, and since you suggested I should leave this forum, let me now ask you a couple of questions:
Why do you consider your contributions to this thread to be of greater value than mine?
Why do you think you have the right to express yourself, but wish to deny me that same right?
Who am I harming by expressing my questions and reservations?
“You are ignoring the fact that the OPPT “leaders” engaged our energy by promising a return to us of our energy that has been stolen. We, like you, want to help end suffering. If questions are being asked here of other posters it is because we don’t have access to those that created this game. My hope is that by posting here the message will get through to the creators of this web site and they will do something to provide us with data that will allow us to make a right decision about what to do with our energy now.”
For the most part, after the first one or two, my posts have been more about me defending my right to express my questions and reservations.
Today I read your invitation to John and myself to leave this forum. So I now have a question for you.
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Save souls, child pornography!!! OPPT found and claimed usurped money, recognized the method of theft, created documents to correct the problem, and filed them. They are not courts, they are not police, they are not banks, they are not Congress, they are not the military, Recognize them for their part and contribute if you can and want or realize that there’s other scenario’s that need to be played out. The good thing is that there actually are people that have both the desire and ability to put the teeth in the filings. And they are indeed working on it. There are subtle hints available. But there will be no media coverage or even internet coverage until the timings right. OPPT’s part is indeed done, but it’s just one part and actually a fairly small one. I say again, try to create positive energy and get ready.
Regarding the concern of child pornography and other negative elements using Project XIII’s platform for their nefarious activities; I believe that when we have freed people from the system of slavery they will ultimately choose better options. This long history of humanity living in a slavery system has created insanity in many of us. We have all been practicing aberrant behavior by living as slaves and our culture is saturated with long established habits and traditions of a master/slave society. It will take some time for us to reprogram ourselves to living as free beings. I believe that the majority of us, at least 80%, still have good impulses and will work to help each other make a better world for all. Many do so even without the restoration of our stolen energy and even though it is difficult to achieve in a culture that is still mostly dedicated to people surviving as slaves or masters.
What we have now is a system that pretends to police child pornography, drug trade, and terrorism while allowing it to continue, and while covertly creating an environment that fosters such behavior. I believe that our best hope of changing our culture for the better is through freeing the slaves and containing the masters. Free people will police their own environment and will cull out or repair those that are addicted to aberrant behavior and can’t stop even though they are living in an environment that is free of the pressures that drove them to do what they do.
But, Trish, what entity is going to label child pornography aberrant, create laws against it, and enforce those laws to “repair” those who violate them? Most of us are opposed to child pornography, but what about other behavior that we don’t consider bad, but other’s might? You are heading down a slippery slope back into slavery.
Do you have answers? You won’t even answer my questions yet you require OPPT to answer much larger and more difficult questions.
John, those of us who believe that child pornography is based on harming children will enforce them. The children will be protected and the harmers will be shunned or contained. A free society cannot be so free that it permits some to harm others without restraint. A free people have to be responsible enough to be willing to restrain those that hurt others if they will not be repaired.
“The Law of Chaos is that Law which states that chaos exists when the observing mind can NOT accept what is. The Law of Order exists when the observing mind can accept what is, regardless of the appearance of chaos.”
“When the individual, the entity, the vibratory rate, the force, begins to move toward its own personal growth and fruition, in expressing itself through its own Will and volition, through its own creative energies, there comes a time when that force becomes aware of resistances to its energies whereby the force becomes aware that its energies and its expression is being hindered. This is the beginnings of the Law of Cause and Effect.”
“The Law of Gratitude is that sense of satisfaction where energy that has been given receives a certain reward. Energy that is given moves out on that curved and unequal line and, when extended far enough, can only return to its source bearing gifts. The Law of Love and Law of Gratitude express the action of generosity and affection and allow entities to cast their bread upon the waters of life without knowing where, how, when, or if it shall return to them.”
“The Law of Co-Creation - The Law of Co-Creation states that two working in co-creative action have the power of four working individually; and three working in co-creative activity have the power of sixteen; and one-hundred and forty-four working in harmony can change the world. When large groups of entities believe and agree on certain images as being real and being stable, this agreement does hold the power of many times that number of energies, if such energies were held by individuals working separately. When groups of entities agree upon certain images, these images do tend to manifest and hold their being in a magnified manner.”
“The Law of Patience - The Law of Patience states that all things must have their time and their season whereby they may work their action to proper fruition.”
“The Law of Thought - Energy follows thought; those who wish to energize, need only to direct their thoughts toward that target which needs energizing.”
“The Law of Vibration - The Law of Vibration states that any vibration which is sent out for good and service, increases into higher frequencies as it moves through space, until it returns to its origin, bringing gifts of those higher frequencies. Forces drawing on vibration for selfish purposes…drawing these forces into themselves, will receive vibrations that decrease in their frequency level, moving into lower frequencies as they enter into one’s Being, requiring that the Being get another “fix” of incoming vibration and energy, then another and another, as though one were addicted. Magnetism, the drawing of energy, decreases the vibratory rate, while Radiance, the giving forth of energy, increases the vibratory rate. When entities radiate good, those energies increase into higher frequencies and bring back good. When entities send forth selfish energies, those energies bring back lower vibrational forces.”
(from The Universal Laws)
Reading all this comments are great, it just shows where a lots of us are in our awakening, awareness, our prospectives, they are all Valid, and part of the wonderful process, this forum is helping us more than much of us knows,or realize lol, because it is giving us a reflection of who we are, the many personality constructs, many different prospectives and believe systems, that we as souls in a Human body on this planet has gathered to form this image we call ourself, our me, our opinions, our selfs in the now moment.. soon it will bring us to the place in our awareness where we can recognize, we are all talking to ourselves, there is really no one else here but you, by whatever names you choose to call your self, john Lisa, ken, Trish, etc etc we are all part of ALL THAT IS /God manifesting himself. a returning from darkness/ignorance to the light/knowing who we really are, the truth is we all want the same thing, we all will realize it soon enough. just think of the joy we feel looking at kids in the play ground trying to sort out what game they are going to play and why,and who’s going play this part and that part, dose it not make you smile to see how to them is seems so serious at the time?…then one day they all grows up look back at those moments and have a good laugh ?………so just let this moment help us shed some of all this weight we are carrying around thinking it must be this way or that way, you are wrong I am right, we or them, this or that. it’s really this and that, we and them, your point of few and my point of few,,, it’s all valid,,, we are just growing up together, waking up together, discovering, and discovering, we are all on this journey together heading in the same direction, and that , we are all ONE…….Much Love…..
I’ve enjoyed my time here but I believe It’s been counterproductive to my own personal growth so I’m moving on. Don’t pin hopes of your future on any outside entity, you must look within. I truly believe that our future is bright and full of light. But manifest it for yourself.
Hey Ken. I so understand how you feel and have to support your decision but want you to know some of us miss you here!!! Love & Light to you Ken.
Ken, the world is full of darkness and light. Never hide from the darkness. Without darkness, light would not be visible.
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“Sonya” initially entered this discussion on June 5th, TEN DAYS after it had started, and hasn’t let up since. If you read these replies sequentially without stopping, they’re easier to analyze. Do these responses sound to you like someone who does NOT have a stake in denouncing the I-UV’s potential? Note also the self-contradictions throughout. For example, if this person “avidly and enthusiastically” followed the developments “since December of last year” (5th reply), then WHY is this person only jumping into the conversation nearly two WEEKS after it had already started??? Any person as genuinely interested as this person purports to be would have been keeping up with the site before this discourse began.
This person vacillates between insisting s/he is “open minded” (10th reply), and declares that s/he “absolutely BELIEVES” that real remedy one day “WILL happen” (20th reply), and nearly every reply being a diatribe undermining the “I UV exchange, CVAC, Project 13, RV, etc. - “just not sure we are at that point with OPPT,” “sadly, I am now feeling increasingly uncomfortable about this whole thing.” - “so many promises but nothing yet materialised…I feel very sad to say, etc…” “If you had total faith in this project it couldn’t affect you negatively.” Also, this person is likely of British origin, note the spelling in “materialised”. The technique seems to be to DISS everything connected with this site specifically, then to rebut any responses to the disparaging remarks with heavy duty negative statements or to induce guilt and continually reference fears, in one breath bashing “oneness” by implying anyone who disagrees is instead practicing “uniformity”, while in the next breath quoting Buddah. Lot of inconsistencies. What’s also interesting is the heavy laying on of guilt about others not relaxing “and letting others BE” or of anyone asserting “spiritual superiority” while then going on to psychoanalyze responses in very negative terms (ex: “passive-aggressive, etc.”). In its entirety, this reads like an unrelenting, unnecessarily argumentative, campaign. But notice when an apology is forthcoming, how this person then “makes nice” for a bit. (Very disingenuous.) Only to return with further barrages on new incoming comments. Notice the vacillation between agreeableness and disagreeableness which appears to coincide with playing along with the other commentators, and harping on and on about “being suppressed”.and others not “respecting free will,” Does not appear to realize OPPT has been retired. Also, the languaging throughout seems contrived and overemphasized. I’ve not heard many people use the term “bona fide” unless they worked in a law office. (Not included is the “NESARA” announcement - an attempt at believability?) Taken altogether, this seems very TROLLISH. What do you all think?
[entries are in date order]:
Very FIRST entry from “Sonya” (TEN DAYS after the thread started):
sonya says :REPLY
June 5, 2024 at 7:08 am
“A progress update from the PXIII team would be much appreciated.
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2nd entry from “Sonya”:
sonya says :REPLY
June 5, 2024 at 8:19 pm
I UV exchange, CVAC, Project 13, RV – so many promises but nothing yet materialised…. I feel very sad to say this but it’s starting to look like more of the same old, same old, same old……. (fill in the blank).
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3rd entry from “Sonya”:
sonya says :REPLY
June 7, 2024 at 10:34 am
These are important questions and, to date, as far as I am aware, no-one has been able to give a cohesive answer, yet if all is bona fide, these should be simple matters to clear up.
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4th entry from “Sonya”:
sonya says :REPLY
June 7, 2024 at 8:20 am
Your argument, Kenrick, to be valid, must surely also apply to you. Therefore, doesn’t it follow that what you believe you are seeing in John is, also, merely a reflection of your own perception?
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5th reply from “Sonya”:
sonya says :REPLY
June 7, 2024 at 7:21 am
I have followed this thing since December last year when it first appeared on the internet. When I first read about it I did get a huge ‘energetic’ response. Since then, like many others, I have avidly and enthusiastically followed the developments, articles, radio shows, etc. It seemed exquisite that the PTW had been defeated by their own system of slavery. Sweet justice indeed.
I say this to illustrate that I’m not some sceptic unable to respond to something positive.
However, and sadly, I am now feeling increasingly uncomfortable about this whole thing. Certain things are jumping out at me and seeming just not to add up.
Me too, am sorry to see people on this thread being criticised and put down for not being ‘positive’, because they are questioning things. Just want to remind people that that’s a typical cult dynamic. Criticism is not welcomed in cults. To those critics of the critics, I would ask them why they are not respecting others’ free will to question, doubt or disagree? What is it which makes them feel the need to assert their own opinion as superior and demean those who don’t share those opinions? Is that their understanding of ‘eternal essence absent limits’, of acting in love and respecting ‘free will’?
Ironically, some seem to believe that ‘oneness’ means ‘uniform’ – ie. that we should all perceive things in the same way and have exactly the same opinions, and those that don’t, just don’t understand and are therefore treated as inferior. That is pretty dangerous thinking, imho, and is exactly what the alleged gubberments of this world and trying to impose by force on the peoples of our world at this very moment.
(I keep losing my text from the comments box so I’ll post this in sections, lol.)
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6th reply from “Sonya”:
sonya says :REPLY
June 7, 2024 at 7:31 am
A teaching from the Buddha (paraphrased):
“Never rely on blind faith, heresay or the opinions of others or the herd mentaility. There are three steps to the development of faith. First, there is a positive intuitive response to something or someone. One feels drawn to it. The second stage is to then submit it to rigorous intellectual scrutiny. If you are satisfied that it holds up to rigorous intellectual scrutiny, and it still seems sound, then test its validity out in your experience as scrupulously as a goldsmith tests metal for gold. If it still seems sound, then and only then do you put your faith in it.”
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7th reply from “Sonya”:
sonya says :REPLY
June 7, 2024 at 8:15 am
They can be distinct, but are not necessarily so. Perhaps it would be more relevant to define ‘negativity’……if we were to do so we would surely find that most often it is only one’s own perception which defines something as negative. Often people will define as negative something they don’t want to hear, and imho they may not want to hear it because it makes them uncomfortable or it may trigger a fear response in them. Is that a reason to suppress expression?
From the point of view of ‘absolute data’, and according to Heather’s own stated principles, and if if OPPT is genuine and of pure intent, what harm can it do to anything if some people express doubts in it or criticise it or question it?
It seems to me there is much more harm to be done by attempting to suppress honest, harmless discussion.
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8th reply from “Sonya”:
sonya says :REPLY
June 7, 2024 at 9:12 am
Once again – not necessarily, lol <3
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9th reply from "Sonya":
sonya says :REPLY
June 7, 2024 at 7:54 am
Here’s something I don’t understand. During the radio shows, whenever anyone has asked about ‘tangible’ value – ie. hard cash being available to prevent their foreclosure, feed their children, put a roof over their head, the response seems invariably to have been that when we know we are eternal essence absent limit, and when we are ‘BEing and DOing’, we simply manifest what we need. I have in mind something Heather said quite recently in this regard, and when I have time I will search out that quote.
So – that being the case, why is it that there have been requests for donations of hard cash for AK, D’s computer and now BZ and also a subscription for Project 13
It’s not that I mind donating and/or paying for a service, I don’t and I would willingly pay more to allow others to access something valuable…. it’s just that this anomalous to me. Doesn’t this suggest that Heather and the crew seem to be saying one thing and doing another?
I hear what some are saying regarding the need for there to be an exchange of value – but the only people who seem to be requesting hard cash as part of that exchange of value are the very people who are also saying others shouldn’t need hard cash because if they know who they really are, they will manifest everything they need.
I accept that I may have missed an important point here – but please don’t ask me to override my common sense. Remember there is an intense war against common sense being waged across the planet by the cabal as part of their mind offensive.
This is just one question I am pondering and which, as yet, has not passed my scrutiny test……… and an airy fairy ‘you don’t understand eternal essence absent limits’ just won’t cut it for me. Perhaps I do understand, and perhaps that is why I am pondering this question.
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10th reply from "Sonya":
sonya says :REPLY
June 7, 2024 at 8:47 am
Yes, I’m still open minded – and nothing would make me happier than to see the PTW toppled and an end to the terrible and un-necessary suffering in the world, but as yet I see no real sign of that happening. We have seen the odd success story from people using the CN’s – and that’s excellent, but still just a tiny drop in the ocean compared to the scale of suffering which needs to be remedied.
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11th reply from "Sonya":
sonya says :REPLY
June 7, 2024 at 8:56 am
I’m not sure how the Swissindo thing would explain why Heather et all seem to tell people that they don’t need cash – that they need to BE and DO eternal essence absent limits and they will manifest what they need, while at the same time they are asking (and in the most recent example asking with an ‘URGENT’ tag) for cash to help once again rescue a member of the crew.
The argument put forward for asking for donations was that if BZ doesn’t receive the cash, this website will fold. I mean – with all their powers of manifestation, and with the alleged ability to underwrite a global RV to the tune of billions of dollars, I find it hard to believe that they would have no choice but to let a website, which they perceive as core to the initiative to change the world, fold and therefore jeopardise the initiative because they can’t manifest what they need for it to stay active.
Am I missing something here?
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12th reply from "Sonya":
sonya says :REPLY
June 7, 2024 at 8:32 am
When there was a groundswell of positivity, that was fully and totally embraced as valid. If there is now a groundswell of questions and/or criticisms, shouldn’t that be embraced as valid too? Until there is irrefutable tangible evidence one way or the other, like you, I will be holding both and watching to see how things develop.
I don’t personally agree with the ‘xmas’ analogy – there are many people who are suffering terribly and who desperately need help, and a carrot has been dangled in front of them.
If we are each to take responsibility for our actions – and again, Heather claims to do this – we can’t ignore the important point that many promises have been made, some of which, when questioned, have been obfuscated – and people who believed in those promises and who desperately needed the assistance promised are feeling disappointed. Heather and crew did definitely raise those expectations, they didn’t come from nowhere, and so they are answerable……and some of that same crew are now asking for financial assistance from the rest of us. Something is just not adding up for me right now.
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13th reply from "Sonya":
sonya says :REPLY
June 7, 2024 at 8:41 am
If Heather can allegedly underwrite the RV to the tune of billions of dollars and thereby make it happen, why can’t she underwrite BZ’s rent on a supa dupa apartment for her?
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14th reply from "Sonya" (replying to Kendrick):
(Kenrick says :REPLY
June 7, 2024 at 8:54 am
Sonya It was not an argument, that’s ego. Its an observation which could be wrong. At the end of the day what will be will be. That statement validates it self. The choice is a state of balance is necessary in to be in harmony. Or you can Fight the Illusion. Relax and be at Peace.)
sonya says :REPLY
June 7, 2024 at 9:05 am
Ok, it wasn’t an argument, it was a statement. But I think my point is still valid….in that what you perceive in others is also a reflection of your inner self.
I do agree with you that balance and harmony are necessary, I just don’t agree that people expressing questions our doubts, courteously an respectfully, is ego or negative or an indication of lack of balance or harmony.
Relax and let others’ be.
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15th reply from "Sonya":
sonya says :REPLY
June 7, 2024 at 9:10 am
In time we’ll see how it all pans out.
For me the good thing about a situation such as this is the interactions with some lovely, genuine, sincere, like-hearted people. Thanks Lisa and John, I’ve enjoyed and appreciated your interactions and your energies very much.
Love to you both – and to everyone
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16th reply from "Sonya" (responding to Al50):
sonya says :REPLY
June 7, 2024 at 6:11 pm
With the greatest of respect, questioning IS positive. What have you built so far with the energy and love and hope and prayers you refer to? How many people has that fed? How many people’s lives have you saved? How many wars have you stopped? And please show me ONE poster who has suggested they want to retain the old system? You use the word ‘return’, and my use of the word ‘retain’ here is deliberate, because as of yet I haven’t seen the old system’s demise. I wish that were not so.
I have to say I’m quite bemused, even a little shocked, that so many people who profess to understand and support the OPPT initiative do not wish to allow others their free will expression of questions and doubts, and at the same time claim some kind of spiritual superiority. Can’t you see the paradox in that?
Why do questions and doubts bother you? What fear of yours does it touch on?
Can’t you see that those of us who have expressed questions and doubts ARE acting in love and coming from the light.
Can’t you see that the desire to suppress honest dialogue and different points of view is all about a wish to control others – which is the very essence of the current slavery system?
Consider this quote by Voltaire: “I disagree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” ?
Isn’t that more in keeping with the spirit of true freedom and love?
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17th reply from "Sonya":
sonya says :REPLY
June 7, 2024 at 6:53 pm
Good god! People put all sorts of spin on what others write. Lisa, I am not worrying or anxious. I am simply asking questions and expressing reservations. Why does that bother you so much? What fears of yours are being triggered?
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18th reply from "Sonya":
sonya says :REPLY
June 7, 2024 at 7:58 pm
No offence taken, Lisa, thank you. I can genuinely empathise with you being an ‘empath’, and taking on other people’s energies. Believe it or not, lol, I used to have the same experience, had been like that all my life. However, a few months ago I read an article which explained that empaths need to be able to switch off their empathy in order to stop it ‘running amok’ (no criticism intended), – and since I learned to do that it has made a huge difference to me. Before that I felt like a sponge – absorbing all the energies around me because my ever-present tendency to empathy, which I had no control over, left me wide open for that. The difference has been amazing.
I agree, nothing is wrong with ‘wait and see’ and that’s exactly what I am doing….. and in the meantime I’ve engaged in some enjoyable dialogue with some lovely people on here, and am also defending my right to express questions and reservations because a few posters have wanted to suppress that dialogue.
I have no problem at all if people disagree or don’t share my views – but, when I have the time and energy, I will always rebut any suggestion that I should remain silent because questions/reservations are ‘negative’. Frankly, I think that’s nonsense, and I agree with you that questioning is how we learn and understand, and it’s also how we sort out the wheat from the chaff. Reservations I have expressed may prove to be unfounded, which would be excellent, but they may also yet prove to be valid….at this point there are few, if any tangibles to rely on, and I also believe that it’s through dialogue that we learn to think for ourselves instead of relying on others.
For sure, some of the I-UV crew would be in a position to give informed answers to some of the questions, but, as you say, at the moment they aren’t doing that – and I also find it very valuable to discuss things with others, and see what questions, if any, they have.
With love.
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19th reply from "Sonya":
sonya says :REPLY
June 7, 2024 at 8:01 pm
ps. Apologies for mis-spelling your name – again, Lisi.
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20th reply from "Sonya":
sonya says :REPLY
June 7, 2024 at 9:19 am
If all the genuine different alternative truth groups came together and acted as one on a solution which could truly provide real remedy, it would be fantastic.
I’m just not sure whether I currently believe we are at that point with OPPT. However, I remain open and hope my doubts prove to be unfounded, because nothing would make me happier. I absolutely believe, however, KNOW even, that one day that WILL happen.
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21st reply from "Sonya":
sonya says :REPLY
June 7, 2024 at 12:34 pm
I was talking to a man, he told me his name was Godot – he seemed very informed and said to just keep waiting…..
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22nd reply from "Sonya":
sonya says :REPLY
June 8, 2024 at 9:53 am
I agree that more and more people are waking up to the reality of the way our 3D world is controlled, and to other dimensional possibilities.
It concerns me, however, to see it suggested that this is all thanks to the OPPT. Many thousands of dedicated individuals have been working tirelessly for decades in whichever way they can, to sustain and further that process of ‘awareness’ (I don’t really like ‘awakening’ , it tends to create a ‘them and us’ division). The OPPT initiative may well have helped make some more people aware, but, Peter, please speak for yourself. If you believe TOP has saved your soul, that is great, but I do not subscribe to your view that they have saved mine.
The rising collective awareness is the result of a massive and sustained effort by many dedicated people over decades. To write that off as insignificant is, in my opinion, to deny the truth, nor do I yet see any tangible evidence that anything has been ‘saved’.
Although it has been stated that the governments, banks and corporations have been foreclosed on – to all intents and purposes they still seem to be functioning as before … so it seems, from my vantage point at least, that very little, if anything, has changed so far in our 3D reality.
It seems to me that many people have totally bought into this despite a lack of any real tangible evidence, because they want it to be true. That’s their free choice which I respect, but wanting something to be true doesn’t make it true, and if we want it to be true badly enough we may override our common sense and ignore anything which doesn’t fit with our hope-based belief. I respect everyone’s right to do that – to believe whatever they choose. I just don’t accept their claims that they are right and others who see things differently are wrong.
Hope is not fact.
At the moment I personally sense there is something of a collective ‘guru’ projection going on – and a ‘herd’ mentality which says that anyone who is questioning or has concerns/doubts are just spiritually inferior because they don’t get it. In my experience that kind of dynamic is unhealthy, it’s what happens in cults and has nothing at all to do with genuine ‘spirituality’ which sees each embodiment as equal, precious and absolutely free to have their own unique experience and express themselves freely, as long as no harm is done to another.
If people don’t like seeing questions and concerns raised, or criticisms made, that is their stuff and it’s up to them to deal with it.
Again I ask, what is it about questions and criticisms that you are afraid of? If you had total faith in this project it couldn’t affect you in any negative way.
As it stands – no-one has been able to answer some extremely simple and very important questions which have been raised on this thread, which is interesting in itself.
From a basic level of simple courtesy, at least an update should have been provided.
If someone invited you to dinner and they weren’t home when you turned up because they had gone away on a jolly and hadn’t bothered to tell you – wouldn’t you say they should have let you know?
They had the time and enough access to the internet to write asking for donations for BZ – so there’s no reason why they couldn’t have taken 5 minutes to post an update, as basic courtesy says they should have done?
I don’t know where they are nor what they are doing……nor indeed who is funding all this for them because it isn’t cheap to do what they are doing and, according to what they themselves said, they were all broke just a few weeks ago. And clearly, despite what they say to others, they cannot manifest hard cash because they have to keep asking their ‘followers’ for that when they need it. I think there have been requests for donations for at least 4 of them now.
Hi Peter, With all respect it’s great that you believe TOP has saved your soul, but please speak for yourself because I don’t share your view that they have saved mine."
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Well, this is my "honest, harmless discussion." Who are you really, "Sonya"? Do you have a "cohesive answer"? "Questioning is positive." "What is it about questions…that you are afraid of?" Perhaps Godot can help you answer all those questions you keep repeating over and over and over ad nauseum, even though you already know nobody on this thread has the answers for you. I think u'r a troll and not a very good one at that.
LISI:
“Sonya” initially entered this discussion on June 5th, TEN DAYS after it had started, and hasn’t let up since. If you read these replies sequentially without stopping, they’re easier to analyze. Do these responses sound to you like someone who does NOT have a stake in denouncing the I-UV’s potential? Note also the self-contradictions throughout. For example, if this person “avidly and enthusiastically” followed the developments “since December of last year” (5th reply), then WHY is this person only jumping into the conversation nearly two WEEKS after it had already started??? Any person as genuinely interested as this person purports to be would have been keeping up with the site before this discourse began.
SONYA
Where is the contradiction?
It is possible, Lisi, you know, to follow this site daily, and all the others relevant to TOP, read all the articles and comments and not post anything…… why does that escape you?
Are you seriously suggesting that if someone enters the discussion today, it’s suspect because they didn’t participate in it from the beginning? What kind of logic is that?
Lisi - I have questions and reservations which I have expressed. I’ve participated in a lively dialogue with a few others about those concerns and I have found that enjoyable and enriching, and I’ve also debated the reactions of some people who perceive my and others’ questions and reservations as negative and want to suppress them.
If in your world that makes me a troll, so be it, lol. You’re entitled to your opinion. And yes, although I felt very enthusiastic initially, I do now have reservations about TOP. That’s not a crime, unless I am harming someone. Am I harming you or anyone else Lisi?
As I’ve said already - I hope I am wrong.
Yes, I do absolutely believe that we will see the demise of the Cabal and their control one day. If I didn’t believe that I would probably be feeling the deepest despair. I find it extremely painful to contemplate the terrible suffering they inflict on others - have you seen the terrible photos of the tragically deformed babies now being born in Iraq as a result of the use of DU weapons? It is utterly heartbreaking.
I believe there is a rapidly growing awareness of how our world is controlled by these perpetrators of the vilest crimes against innocent people, and in all sorts of ways, in all sorts of contexts, millions of people are doing what they can to push back, say no, and bring about their demise, and along with hundreds of thousands of others, I’ve been doing what I can for years, decades even, since long before the OPPT initiative was ever launched. I believe passionately that with or without the OPPT/TOP initiative, the people of this world will topple the Cabal one day. I see no contradiction there. If this OPPT/TOP initiative is genuine, and is successful, that would make me one of the happiest people on earth. For now I have reservations about it, and the fact that I have expressed those reservations does not suit your liking. It’s as simple as that. Make of it what you want.
Hey Lisi…how are you today? Just wanted to say “you rock”!! It took an incredible amount of courage, heart and transparency to post this!!! I love reading everything you share because It’s genuine and straight from the heart and not the head where the ego lives and rules. Big hug to you!!!
O yeah “Sonya”, i forgot on thing: maybe u’r disgruntlement with this site and everything it stands for is simply “a perception of your inner self.”
Lol, Lisi. That wasn’t my statement - it was Ken’s, and I was simply pointing out to him that to be valid, the statement HE made had to apply as much to him as anyone else. No doubt there is some truth in what you say, perceptions are ubiquitous little beasties - and by the same token, the same must be true of your perceptions of John and myself, no? That’s the trouble with throwing out criticisms of that sort - they kind of boomerang back at you and you go round in loops.
But to be clear, I’m not disgruntled with this site - it’s actually not a bad site and there are some lovely people on this thread. I simply have questions and reservations about OPPT/TOP - and you really don’t like that, lol.
And by the way, yes, I’m from the UK - my spelling makes that very obvious to all…..no brownie points there, Sherlock! But what does that have to do with anything at all?
Point taken, Ken, sorry 2 see u go…
Perhaps “Sonya” simply wasn’t aware of this thread until June 5. I’m not sure it really matters, though, what her agenda is. There are only a few of us posting in this thread. What difference will it make in the great expanse of the universe? I would suggest that most people are not following this thread.
“I am just a poor boy
Though my story’s seldom told
I have squandered my resistance
For a pocket full of mumbles such are promises
All lies and jests
Still a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest”
Simon & Garfunkel - The Boxer
No shiitakes Sherlock. Who wants to converse w/a bunch of downers? Why are u making excuses for “Sonya”? RU a troll too? Sure nothing matters. In the great expanse of the universe, SOME people may actually figure out that their unabating GARBAGE will return one day as their very own dinner. Have fun with that. I think u’r a troll too, u seem to show up about the same time “she” does. Have fun talking to yourself.
And that is you shining your light and love???? ROFL
Light and love to you, too, Lisi.
U’r full of green beans.
It would be nice if those of you partying it up in Morocco would take a few moments to provide some kind of update about what is going on. It doesn’t take this long to get merchant accounts set up. I’ve been a businessman all my life, mostly self employed and if I ever over promised and under delivered I would always provide detailed reasons why there was a delay.
Ok, I have to say that the attitude of the so called positive people is a little disturbing. It reminds me of the way the people in the cult I grew up acted. Angry, annoyed and judgmental to anyone who dares to question things. The ‘go elsewhere’ police are mad that people are making them question things they do not want to focus on. Because it obviously must strike some chord in them that they’d like to ignore. I do not believe anyone has been emailing any posters personal email address with questions, it’s a blog online with the intent of sharing viewpoints.
If I wanted to be scolded for questioning things, I’d go back to the Kingdom Hall thank you very much. It doesn’t matter how long I’ve been on this blog, or when I started commenting or why I am here. My opinions are just as valid as any other beings and I AM within my rights to express it. I’m not attacking anyone, I’m not spamming anyone and nor is anyone on this blog. If the questions raised by certain posters bothers so much, perhaps you should ask yourself why is it striking a chord with you that makes you ‘retaliate’.
As for the skype session with Moshi or Moxie, however it’s spelled. I did notice she ran right over all the others on the call and was rather in my humble opinion heartless towards the suffering of the many. Her viewpoint that it doesn’t matter what anyone is suffering “I’m only responsible for me, they chose that” I do not personally agree with.
That is not being the change you wish to see in the world. Nor is it Be’ing and Do’ing it’s Self’in. As in ME MYSELF AND I, tough titty for the rest of you. I do not believe the pushed dogma that the innocent chose everything that happens to them, because that would negate the free will of others right at the outset. There are 7 billion people on this planet, many of who are oppressed. If this was exactly how it was supposed to be, nothing would be broken and there would be nothing to fix. I have no idea where she got that this has been a 2000 year old experiment. Suffering has gone on a lot longer than 2000 years.
From what she said, the focus has swung to service to self first, versus service to others. I don’t and didn’t need Heather or Caleb to show me my eternal and internal value, shittakes sherlock is right. I already KNEW what my value is. However my eternal and internal value does not PAY MY BILLS OR FEED MY CHILDREN, nor does it help me to help others. It’s hard to focus on meditating and raising your vibration when you can’t hear anything but the rumbling of your own stomach, go tell some child starving to death, look them in the eye and say you ‘you chose this, you can manifest food whenever you believe it’.
Anyone who can’t feel the import of the words above has lost touch with their spirituality and recognizing we are all connected and should HELP each other. They’ve replaced it with a cabal pushed pile of dogma that states ‘hey we aren’t responsible for what we are doing to you, you chose this, yeah that’s it’. I see a new twist on an old trick. Place blame and responsibility with the innocent and do everything you can to not enable them to actually be humane to each other, care for each other, help each other cause they are all too busy thinking of ME first. I suppose my perspective is different than some here, because I’ve seen this song and dance before, I lived it. I remember being told the bible was the only hope for mankind, while children starved and people didn’t care.
I’m not that kind of self serving being. I care deeply what happens to my fellow man, woman and child. It’s about my feeling I am taking responsibility for them, it’s about my love for them. Inaction and self reflective spirituality does nothing to foster unity, love and peace, it fosters ego and greed and worse of all, a callous disregard for the suffering of others.
Heather and Caleb and trustees and the gang should be held responsible for their words and actions or lack there of. I never forced them to say that the value was to be returned to the people, that the I page would be transferrable, etc. etc. Heather and the gang declared they did the most amazing thing on behalf of all humanity, they did it for all of us. That’s a HUGE claim to make. Therefore it is a HUGE claim to uphold and manifest into reality. I do hold them responsible for that. Just as I hold myself responsible for my actions and words. I do many things to help others in a variety of ways, I walk the walk that I talk, I’m only asking the same of people who say they held and hold the power to the freedom and redistribution of value for all of us. If they are not responsible ‘now’ then I have no reason to contribute financially or energetically to what they say and do. If I’m on my own and I should ‘have known that all along’ and should never had paid attention to the promises they made. Well, ok then, that’s fine, I’ll still continue to be me and do all I can personally to the be the change I want to see and being a loving human being. But don’t come asking me to support your trips or members of your movement financially because I’ll take a note from your book and say ‘it’s not my problem, good luck with that’.
I really don’t get your point Lisi. I am one of those who have been following this thread for over a week, waiting on news re Project 13. This is my first post. If I was easily intimidated, I wouldn’t post at all for fear of being called a troll by you.
I have also been following the events surrounding OPPT since the end of Dec.
At first I thought it was hogwash and too good to be true. However, after reading as much as I could on the subject (though I admit I never did totally understand it all) I began to get excited about the potential prospects and ramifications.
For me, this built to a crescendo when I listened to the show from May 27 (or perhaps the 28th). The was the show that ran to almost 3am in Morocco.
A caller, who was obviously frustrated by not seeing real tangible results, asked a simple question. When will we all see undeniable proof that this movement is moving forward and there would be financial relief for those hurting the most?
As usual, as first Heather answered by going on and on about Being and Doing. When the caller did not take this as an answer and asked again for a direct answer, Heather said we all would have proof by the end of that week. The caller said “really?” Heather answered yes that there would be announcements made by the end of the week.
That conversation took place almost two weeks ago and other than the plea for help for BZ, as far as I know, no one has heard from them since. Oh, and Heather announced that was the last show she would participate in.
We all know they have access to this forum. If there are people here (myself included) who are getting their panties in a twist for nothing, I would think that one of them would pop on the board to give some reassurances. However, the silence is deafening.
That leaves me to conclude that either none of them care enough to see what we are thinking and discussing, or that they do know what we are thinking and discussing but don’t care enough to respond. Either way, it sucks.
I’m glad you weren’t intimidated…
That’s truly from the heart, Lisa, and I feel deeply moved by what you have written. And I feel the same as you. And, truly, you are not alone….. there are lots of us out here. Big hug, sista. <3
Big hug back at ya sonya and to everyone. Questioning is not darkness, it is shining light on any area an individual does not feel is fully lite with data. I have broad shoulders I can take the heat of people not liking my lamp focused in certain directions. It’s all good, I know who I AM. Much love to you all, don’t hide in the shadows of fear of asking for light to be made clear. ♥
Absolutely - and thanks for cutting through the dross and putting the essence right out there.
P.S. I’m so over hearing ‘duality’. It does not take any guru or genius to see that the very few oppress the many. We have been bombarded with a ton of new age beliefs which I do not see as truth but belief and told that it is fact, if you don’t agree you aren’t spiritual enough, your vibration isn’t enough, blah blah blah.
Is this not just new religion, a pink glitter encrusted turd is still a turd! I do not doubt that positive change is happening, I don’t doubt that things are going to get better, but I do doubt words that do not follow with transparent actions are the ‘way’ it will happen.
With regard to project 13, I’m not bothered that it hasn’t rolled out because a new social platform isn’t really of that much interest to me, especially when it was explained. If others think it’s great, good for them, I hope they enjoy it and I truly mean that. I don’t feel the need for a encrypted social platform as I do not care if anyone is spying on me on facebook, fill YOUR boots, listen to me talk about my kids or love life. Whatever works for ya! I have nothing to hide, I am transparent, Lisa is my real name.
I was and always was much more interested in the OPPT UCC filings and following that progressive story. I have been on my own spiritual journey for a number of years so that’s not my angle either. I saw the potential for equality as promised by the power Heather said the filings had. I was excited for the end of suffering for everyone, I was hopeful that someone had finally found a way to do something that will help those that cannot help themselves, say the billions who have no access to a computer, or any knowledge of any of this.
Hope is a very precious thing, when you build it in others expect that they will have expectations because you created those expectations by your Do’ing, Be’ing and Claiming. If you say you can and are doing something on behalf of all humanity, all of creation even, those are pretty big shoes to fill and alot of hope that’s fostered. Responsibility for that surely rests with those who make the claim.
I don’t care one iota about payback, vengeance or retribution. I just want to see life lived as it should be, beautifully and blissfully, creatively. We don’t need darkness, darkness needs us to believe we need it though. Just a thought.
haha, I’ve read all the comments now and it took me a while, I must be crazy (or just in love with people BEing!):)
lisa is clearly refeering to my comment far up there somewhere “go enjoy yourself elsewhere etc”, and that was with full respect of making some one stop or go elsewhere where to end the rambling. Because I like to say “sayonara” to people who just go on and on and on…. I like to see people make a statement and be done with it, and perhaps wait for a reply (from the ones who actually knows!?) before rambling some more, and making others continue rambling even more, and then it never ends. It feels like a blame-game suddenly of who’s right or wrong, this and that, downward action etc.
I will not write anything long (I’m to simple that way) and throw all my thoughts out there because I don’t believe it’s necessary to blab away all kinds of stuff which will put people down (stealing energy? A thought). Because people can put themselves down with pretty much anything, and what’s going on here can be very disheartening for some.
We need to stay positive, and not go on and on and on with this rambling because it’s all the same energy, but in a different “wrapping”.
Questions are nice, but isn’t it a bit feutile discussing this among ourselves? when none of us can actually have the answers but the “team” itself? Maybe just doing a simple thing as WAIT for them??
This has been ongoing for a while now and some “desert time” will do some good, for me and for you
Lack of light or not, is not the issue here because there is always light (in a manner of speaking), but we can’t perceive it at this “level”. That’s duality for you believing good vs bad, light vs dark etc.
Everything IS and everything shall BE, and it is up to YOU to make a difference with any circumstance you may have.
If this didn’t make any sense, no worries, hehe
Crazy little me, with my TRUST and FAITH in some people I never met
That’s just me, and proven otherwise I will stay POSITIVE and see this thing through regardless!
Love & Light
Rene, this is already over.
Just read this on David Wilcock’s site. The headline caught my attention. Of course - I have no idea if this is true, and I’m not sure what to make of DW, so I wait to see whether things unfold as he suggests, but it’s pretty up-beat and for that reason alone, I have to say, was a really welcome read this evening. Maybe it was just a pleasant, distracting, half hour journey into a nice fantasy, and if so, that’s ok. It was a good read. We shall see.
http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1131-nightmare-almost-over-part-1
“The Law of Chaos is that Law which states that chaos exists when the observing mind can NOT accept what is. The Law of Order exists when the observing mind can accept what is, regardless of the appearance of chaos.”
“When the individual, the entity, the vibratory rate, the force, begins to move toward its own personal growth and fruition, in expressing itself through its own Will and volition, through its own creative energies, there comes a time when that force becomes aware of resistances to its energies whereby the force becomes aware that its energies and its expression is being hindered. This is the beginnings of the Law of Cause and Effect.”
“The Law of Gratitude is that sense of satisfaction where energy that has been given receives a certain reward. Energy that is given moves out on that curved and unequal line and, when extended far enough, can only return to its source bearing gifts. The Law of Love and Law of Gratitude express the action of generosity and affection and allow entities to cast their bread upon the waters of life without knowing where, how, when, or if it shall return to them.”
“The Law of Co-Creation – The Law of Co-Creation states that two working in co-creative action have the power of four working individually; and three working in co-creative activity have the power of sixteen; and one-hundred and forty-four working in harmony can change the world. When large groups of entities believe and agree on certain images as being real and being stable, this agreement does hold the power of many times that number of energies, if such energies were held by individuals working separately. When groups of entities agree upon certain images, these images do tend to manifest and hold their being in a magnified manner.”
“The Law of Patience – The Law of Patience states that all things must have their time and their season whereby they may work their action to proper fruition.”
“The Law of Thought – Energy follows thought; those who wish to energize, need only to direct their thoughts toward that target which needs energizing.”
“The Law of Vibration – The Law of Vibration states that any vibration which is sent out for good and service, increases into higher frequencies as it moves through space, until it returns to its origin, bringing gifts of those higher frequencies. Forces drawing on vibration for selfish purposes…drawing these forces into themselves, will receive vibrations that decrease in their frequency level, moving into lower frequencies as they enter into one’s Being, requiring that the Being get another “fix” of incoming vibration and energy, then another and another, as though one were addicted. Magnetism, the drawing of energy, decreases the vibratory rate, while Radiance, the giving forth of energy, increases the vibratory rate. When entities radiate good, those energies increase into higher frequencies and bring back good. When entities send forth selfish energies, those energies bring back lower vibrational forces.”
(from The Universal Laws)
Actually Rene, I wasn’t referring to your comment. Just so you know. As for the Universal Laws written by a person, here in the 3D, doesn’t really mean much to me as eternal essence embodied absent limits. I follow one Law if you will only, do no harm. I do agree with you however Rene on the energy stealing, I certainly do feel like my energy has been zapped by all these grand declarations with no action visible.
I’ll try to keep this hooked on phonics short….I am able to use telekinesis, help people connect with their deceased loved ones, do energy work, etc. So while many might point a finger at me and say ‘that’s low vibration or bad or negative’ by questioning, really that says alot more about the spiritual evolution of the person pointing the finger as I haven’t pointed my finger and deemed anyone spiritually lesser or lower or beneath me. I simply have questions. Good thing isn’t not burn her at the stake time or I’d be toast already. Peace and love to you all.
“The Law of Patience states that all things must have their time and their season whereby they may work their action to proper fruition….
The Law of Gratitude is that sense of satisfaction where energy that has been given receives a certain reward. Energy that is given moves out on that curved and unequal line and, when extended far enough, can only return to its source bearing gifts. The Law of Love and Law of Gratitude express the action of generosity and affection and allow entities to cast their bread upon the waters of life without knowing where, how, when, or if it shall return to them.”
We can never be sure that the opinion we are endeavoring to stifle is a false opinion; and if we were sure, stifling it would be an evil still. ~John Stuart Mill, On Liberty, 1859
The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen. ~Tommy Smothers
Censorship reflects society’s lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime. ~Potter Stewart
The peculiar evil of silencing the expression of an opinion is, that it is robbing the human race; posterity as well as the existing generation; those who dissent from the opinion, still more than those who hold it. If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth: if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth, produced by its collision with error. ~John Stuart Mill, On Liberty, 1859
I think the problem is much more fundamental than opinion vs opinion. The problem is one of different world views, and I think the gulf is too wide to breach. The beginnings of OPPT, for most people, were in the UCC filings and commercial remedy. And while there was new age language throughout Heather’s initial UCC filings, the emphasis in them, as the emphasis in the earliest interviews done with Heather, was on collapsing the corporations and governments, and returning the wealth to the people. Over time, though, Heather expressed less and less interest in the commercial aspects and her language become more and more “5D,” more and more difficult to understand, and she seemed to lose patience with those who were seeking actual 3D remedy for their financial problems. That observation is to preface this observation. Those in the new age movement who have been attracted to Heather are, like her, unconcerned with outcomes. They seem to see themselves as observers watching some cosmic plan play out without particular attachment to how all of this ends, only convinced that the universe is completely benevolent and heading toward some kind of nirvana. This, of course, is a matter of faith, and you really can’t debate with people who operate from faith in a system they acknowledge even they don’t understand. The problem for this movement, though, is that there seems to be an acknowledgement, now, that Heather and her crew in Morocco no longer have an interest in 3D things like debts and mortgages, and feeding the kids, and are focused totally on “energetics.” I assume, from the interviews I’ve listened to, that they are all in Morocco seeking to bring about the “finality,” to through their energetic intervention, bring the “new age” into existence. It will not happen. That will be of no concern to those who do not care about outcomes, but my observation is that they have already lost the majority who are desperately concerned with outcomes.
Wrong John. They have not lost the majority of us. They never had you to begin with and all you are trying to do is to silence the rest of us. You have attempted to divide us but you have not succeeded. The majority has just chosen not to engage in your one sided conversation.
What’s all this talk about “new age” movement? For your information, to be spiritual is a STATE to BE rather than being a meatsack waiting to die because you don’t believe in anything than yourself and what for some reason your whole life appears to be coincidental, and a perspective just beyond the tip of your nose.
There is no new-age, it’s in reality rememberance of what was, which disbelievers and scientists have labeled this for the purpose of making it false/unrecognized. There is nothing new about it, it is and has always been energy and spirituality.
If you can’t get passed that barrier, then you really need some “desert time”
That’s right Rene and can I say I would love to be in the desert surrounded by and basking in positive energy and love!!!!
I just hope they weren’t smoking out in the desert what they were smoking when they saw each other flying and with green hands while signaling space aliens to land at a cricket pitch. Chemicals and the desert don’t go together well. We learned back in the 1960s that smoking the purple drapes was not a good idea.
what is heather s email ? i would like to ask directly instead of speculating, its not getting us anywhere !
[email protected]? please share her contact. thank you all
I tend to agree with you, John, that the problem is one of world views, or maybe different paradigms and I think the observations you have made seem to be an accurate synopsis and analysis of the process so far.
However……lol,
If Heather and the crew in Morocco indeed no longer have an interest in 3D things like debts and mortgages, and feeding the kids, and are focused totally on “energetics”, that is their choice, of course, and, frankly, in and of itself that choice is none of my business… except that I still see an anomaly in as much as they are able to be in Morocco precisely because others, many of whom were still acting from a different paradigm to theirs, financed their trips, in part at least, through donations of the very commodity (tangible currency) they seem to purport not to need. I can’t help wondering what they would now be doing if they didn’t have the money to feed their own kids or keep a roof over their own heads.
Oh yes, we’ve just had some examples of that - if they need a computer, or if one of the team is about to become homeless, or whatever, they ask their followers to donate that same hard currency which they purport not to need!
So why are their needs more important, to the point of asking the public for donations, than any Jo Blogs’ desperate need to feed their kids and stop their home from being foreclosed? Aren’t we all supposed to be equal?
Is it because Heather and crew deem themselves to have a special ‘mission’ to complete to save humanity?! If so, doesn’t that suggest we have an ‘elite’ control group or clique which has formed, whose needs are clearly considered to be more important than others’? If so, what happened to the ‘we are all equal’ principle they expound. I don’t remember subscribing to that!
At the same time, it can’t be ignored that they publicly made certain statements on the basis of which many people engaged with the process initiated by the OPPT filings. If, subsequently, they made the choice to abandon the 3D initiatives they launched, based on the very transparency and self responsibility which they claim to be the sine qua non of their eternal essence absent limits embodied in 3D, and any and all other ‘D’s, they would be morally bound to be up front and transparent about that….which so far does not seem to be the case.
And what has happened to the world’s wealth which they claim to have taken ownership of, if they have now abandoned the project to return it to the people? I mean, come on Heather, where is it?
In case it is a simple question of needing to ask, I am hereby formally instructing that Heather return to me, within 14 days, my share of the world’s wealth which she has acquired on behalf of the one people of this world for the purpose of returning said value to the one people, of which I am ONE!
Anyway, I guess all this is just going round in circles, and I’m becoming flippant, so I’m gonna stop there and just wait for the next instalment!
It IS really sad to see people tearing themselves apart, about what is going to happen and what IS, the energy of doubt and fear will not change the final outcome of what will BE. Accept all the outcomes as potentials. For example one day we will DIE accept it and FREE your MINDS. I am also disappointed that things never happen, worrying about it is not going to change anything.
Remember we are all responsible for what we Believe and conceive as co creators , that is what got US in the mess WE were in, in the first place. CHILL OUT know Peace. LOVE & LIGHT.
Thanks, Kenrick. I agree, there’s no need to sweat about this, or be anxious, and I’m not. I don’t have any investment in a particular outcome from this initiative, so I’m really not tearing myself apart, but I do appreciate your kind words.
My view is that it is blind faith, not asking questions and not expressing doubts that got us into this mess in the first place. The essence of the term ‘sheeple’ suggests blindly following without engaging in critical thinking. That’s why I consider asking questions and expressing doubts to be neither dark nor fear based, but of the light and vital for a healthy society.
As I’ve said a few times already - if this initiative proves to be genuine and successful, that will make me deliriously happy. If not, I do believe completely that the demise of the cabal will take place at some point, because of the ground swell of awareness and the will for positive change, and because all sorts of people are doing all manner of things in all areas of the world, to that end.
I know I will die one day - obviously,
And that doesn’t scare me, on the contrary. But while I am here embodied in this 3D plane, the suffering I witness does distress me, and if I can do something to alleviate that, or end such widespread suffering, I’ll do what I can.
Basically, everyone here wants pretty much the same thing for the world, there are just differing views about whether this particular initiative is going to fulfil its promise and help us to get there, and that’s ok.
Love to all. <3
Here here Ken. Couldn’t agree with you more!!!!!! Love & Light to you as well.
Kendrick. Sorry bout that. I’m with you!!!! Love & Light.
What ever they are doing where ever, it’s their choosing, it’s them as individuals doing what they feel led to do, I have learnt that i must stop depending on someone else to do it all for me/us we/I am a part of all of all this as much as heather,D, Lisa, and who ever is in the desert, we have been so conditioned by the PTW to be servants/slaves we have become so accustomed to being told what to do, or how it must be done, and where to go, we wait for THEM!! the so called leaders/ Govt etc etc to baby sit us, so in some sense we keep looking to the Heather Caleb, Oppt, to do and act in the same way to us, as our leaders our Govt, saviors, to give us access to our value/ $10 Billion Dollars, so we can Pay Mortgage/death pledge, put billions back in the very bank /system that’s been ripping us off, making money from our money,/energy, the same bank who is making money out of nothing, having us pay for a mortgage that dose not exist. in a little time from now we may not have any need for money, but through it all we made it, and we will make it to the end what ever that end may be, lets just start tapping into our god given powers and like heather, and the rest of them where ever they me be, start calling on the universe/God what ever you may call him to help in the battle of good over evil cause we know we shall win, cause we are confident in the victory, of good over evil. lol,lol so come on you beautiful, powerful, loving people my brothers and sisters, even though we question and feel a bit angry, abandonment, left outside in the cold with no answers, if you will, no one telling us whats going on, etc etc, what to do? but remember, the power is in us as much as in everyone else, lets remove the bad guys ourselves who are blocking our access to financial freedom, see them gone, see yourself having the means to go and do what ever you want…. lets do this…… much love..
You can count me in!!!! We will see them defeated. We are free and we are one and we have the organic ability to do this with LOVE & LIGHT!!!!!
The Law of Divine Proclamation
The Law of Divine Proclamation states that the
ability of an individual to express, speak or proclaim in behalf
of the Divine Forces is in direct proportion to the ability of
the individual to cease expression, speech or proclamation in
behalf of self.
When one learns to express, speak or proclaim as a Divine Being, and to avoid expression, speaking or proclaiming
as a self-centered being, at such time the entity becomes the
Master of the Language of the Divine.
The Law of Divine Proclamation
The Law of Divine Proclamation states that the
ability of an individual to express, speak or proclaim in behalf
of the Divine Forces is in direct proportion to the ability of
the individual to cease expression, speech or proclamation in
behalf of self.
When one learns to express, speak or proclaim as a Divine Being, and to avoid expression, speaking or proclaiming
as a self-centered being, at such time the entity becomes the
Master of the Language of the Divine.
(from the Universal Laws)
The Law of Motivation
Entities following the Law of Motivation, wherein the motivation is the means and the end, may discover the Law of Gratitude returning more quickly to them, with greater abundance, the energy that has been given.
(from the Universal Laws)
Much gratitude Tonia, Al50, Will & Rene K. Wonderful to see a little balance!!!!
Right back at you. WE are in this together!!!! Much love to all of you engaged in holding the space needed to allow our desired changes to manifest in our realities. Love & Light.
Kendrick, thx for the balance to U 2!!!
Kenrick, I mean. Sry for the misspell…
Hi Eve, my point simply, going on and on about something in the face of no constructive feedback, is there a point to that? It’s not the jumping in point i was objecting to, i did say “taken altogether”, and was referring to the unrelenting harangue about something nobody here can answer. I notice Will offered an email contact. Good idea. Logic may be 3D to some extent, but what’s wrong w/using it, like a lot of other tools? The endless haranguing does, however, demoralize other people who’d like to exchange constructive ideas rather than beat one point to a pulp.
Well said. Exactly how I see it and that’s exactly how it felt for me too.
Thx Tonia. On another note, speaking of the desert, i found myself going back to the desert in my mind several times since Rene first started mentioning “desert time”, and it was nice! I usually go to a big beach whenever i’m sort of meditating (I don’t get down in the floor to meditate, but seem to kind of switch over to a meditative state off and on during the day), and what i noticed was that i liked the dry sand sensation better than the beach sand. It was extremely relaxing! One thing i recall of the Sahara were the huge slabs of fossil rock being pulled out and the locals would make these gorgeous tables out of them, they were incredibly heavy, but so beautiful. Hotels near the desert, in the summer, would turn the carpets over upside down so that the sand would spill onto the floor and not accumulate in the carpet fibers. Little memories, but fun to recall. The desert @ night was wonderful. Kinda scary but so immense and almost like what i would imagine being out is space feels like. How’s that for 3D? Cheers!
Beautiful. Just how I’ve imagined it the many times I’ve connected to and felt the energy. I loved that Moxie said they created a landing pad. I’ve used it. Lol. I’m also intrigued that a group believes that Morocco is a part of Atlantis. Just calls me in even more. Have a great day.
I LOVE what’s happening in the forum at the moment, I feel the love!!! thanks Tania let’s just keep it sweet like that and much will happen. much love. need some tips on Meditating, my mind seems to be going all over the place, sex sex sex lol lol lol help help help …..
I LOVE what’s happening in the forum at the moment, I feel the love!!! thanks Tania let’s just keep it sweet like that and much will happen. much love. need some tips on Meditating, my mind seems to be going all over the place, sex sex sex lol lol lol help help help …..
much love
http://theempressoftime.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2013-06-01T00:00:00-04:00&updated-max=2013-07-01T00:00:00-04:00&max-results=1
lol every one is forgiving each other, thanking each other, helping each other,sweet!! just sweet!! Sonya don’t feel no way, your, fears and concerns are valid, and pure, you just want like all of us to be free from the evil grip of poverty, and to see the real bad guys go to jail, know that there are so many souls from all over the universe that has come to this planet to aid us in this process, and as we speak, things are being change in our favor, just keep sweet, and trust that everything even though you don’t understand it at the moment, is working on your behalf………that goes for everyone here even me. Much love.
i try to call heather s number 12535094597, but the number is not accepting any calls at the moment, does anyone have heathers contact details, so we can compile a list of questions. i respect all the “ground crews”, but personally i prefer to digest informations myself, also, we are all at different stage of understanding. so i would like to ask heather myself, if you know heathers email or contact, please share. thank u, i can be reached @ [email protected]
I’ll look on show notes…
Also, below article may be relevant to some:
http://peoplestrustsaskatoon.blogspot.ca/2013/06/the-event-from-my-perspective.html
Been gone but not asleep. The energy on this thread is being mirrored elsewhere. Things are ramping up. Indicators are that banking reset started this weekend. Not a coincidence that Bilderberg Group is meeting this weekend in England. Obama meeting with Chinese. David Willcock updates tentively predicts June 24-July 2 for “something’. Stockmarket tomorrow is supposed to reflect something that’s over my head. Bigfoot is exposing him or herself again. Media reporting on things never before mentioned. Supposed to be increased daytime sightings of ufo’s, but have not seen any evidence. All this means something. Don’t expect 10 billion. What would happen if everyone in the world suddenly got their hands on that at the same time? But help is coming, Keep the faith and don’t eat each other. And yes, I caught up on all posts, thanks to the light, no comment to anyone else. I’ll be back. Love and light.
i agree ken, thank you. alex jones got on bbc, well, as usual, the ridicule ! but i am sure alot of people are aware and conscious already.
Only one e-m addr in notes: [email protected]
A site for Questions regarding Courtesy Notices, but maybe someone would see it & relay the msg(?)
Has anyone tried commenting on AK, RTS or BK’s blogs?
hey lisi, i think thats another ground crew email, their blog r all comment blocked atm ,but thanks
foropaq email has changed
[email protected]
cheers
Thx Tonia on the site ref. The harmony angle certainly follows… Thx for u’r kind presence.
My pleasure
You will not get any answers from Heather, only unintelligible “5D” rambling.
why are you here john? its very time consuming to read all the comments and reply them
That’s ok Will. John knows they are in the desert admitadly and yet he continues to attack them. There is no integrity in such an act. They will be back and we will be here. In the meantime I just read some interesting data and watched another hysterical video at Streets of Love blog with Angel Lucci. Love & Light Will.
Seriously… I was taught a long time ago that if you had nothing good to say.. Then to say nothing at all…
What is your purpose here John.. Your negativity carries no weight with those of us looking at this from a correct perspective.
If you think it’s all such a load of bollocks then why don’t you move on elsewhere..
Besides, Heather and all the bloggers are in the Sahara desert. I doubt they are reachable by phone.
Wow Tonia, u’r patience simply amazes me!
Patience is continuing to support a group of people who report they were flying around a cricket pitch with green hands while waiting for space aliens to land.
LOL Lisi..thanks..at this point John is just hysterical. He keeps singing the same old song and when he thinks he’s got an opportunity he will try and drive it home again just like he did before when he said “It will not happen. That will be of no concern to those who do not care about outcomes, but my observation is that they have already lost the majority who are desperately concerned with outcomes.” That comment made it crystal clear to me!! We are all concerned about the outcomes..why else would we be here? He was targeting those who were or are in the most desperate need which honestly kind of sickens me. I’m not well off and I’ve shared enough about myself on this blog in transparency to show that. I am however more concerned with the overall outcome and all of humanity being freed. That will have a more profound affect on us all and it will happen!!!! I know it will happen…I know that’s why I’m here and when we are able to turn off the chatter (like the nonsense John is projecting) everyone else will know too!!! Much love & light to all of us engaged in this battle working toward the change we all want to see!!!!
Won’t somebody think of the children?!
Hey I’m back from being and doing stupid/fun stuff with my family. Did anything happen while I was gone? Apart from Human Nature’s penchant for arguing that is?
No. The gurus are apparently still in the desert. No Project XIII.
Yeah… Because you would know wouldn’t you John….
Well, Jason, I would assume that if the gurus were back from the desert, they would be sharing absolute data with us, and Project XIII is still just a splash page on a cheap hosting site. That seems to be what is knowable in this moment of now.
arguments aside, i would like to know where is the evidence of all the purported holdings ? show me
The latest Skype session I heard said Heather was no longer interested in money, or funding or anything else. She was focused exclusively on “energetics.”
share the link plz
Because John she has already done the work (her part)…project XIII is Caleb’s baby and then it will be up to the rest of us to determine where we want to take it. What she is focusing on now is bringing absolute data out for all to see and to discern. I love how you are CONSISTENTLY bashing the group of people that have done this work You haven’t come here to ask questions and you’re not seeking understanding. The only Love & Light you have offered anyone on this page is Lisi and that was sarcasm at it’s finest. You remind me a lot of Keenan John and in fact you would probably feel more at home on his blog since it is also his intent to try and divide us…that’s the epitome of the very SLAVERY SYSTEM most of us are trying to do away with. Everything you say is negative and fear based and I gotta know why you are trying to feed that crap to those of us who have awakened to this reality and have made the choice to move past it? It really feels like you would prefer to keep us all locked up and distracted from all the positive Being and Doing going on around the globe and there is a lot of it. That being said…thanks “John” for the CONTRAST which drives me even harder!! Love & Light!!!
Tonia, you can’t do away with the slavery system without some kind of critical mass, and this whole movement is losing that quickly! Most folks who responded to the OPPT did so because it seemed to offer them immediate, financial remedy. That is what we desperately need. Most folks are not looking for New Age platitudes. It has become very clear that there is no financial remedy at hand. Love & light don’t feed the hungry kids (unless, of course, you are one of the gurus and can get donations in good, ole FRN’s to party in Morocco for weeks).
Always Do Your Best
Keep doing your best — no more and no less than your best. When you overdo, you deplete your body and go against yourself, and it will take you longer to accomplish your goal.
If you do your best always, over and over again, you will become a master of transformation. By doing your best, the habits of misusing your word, taking things personally, and making assumptions will become weaker and less frequent with time until they completely lose their power over you.
John, we CAN do away with the slavery system one person at a time. Spreading the word and educating each and every one so that they too can awaken to the programming and the fact that we are indeed slaves to the system. That’s the goal isn’t it? Spreading Love & Light and EMPOWERMENT to each soul that we come across will get us there much faster than constantly dogging the attempts being made!!! Heather has always hated referring to our value as money or funds…she has stressed that many times because the truth is it’s an illusion. The ptw placed the value on gold to coax us into believing that we have no value without it. The ptw feed us fear over and over again which is how they have managed to entrap us to begin with. They made us believe that somehow we needed them to take care of us and look where that got us? We are all stronger and more creative than we give ourselves credit for because again we have been taught not to think for ourselves. I won’t do that anymore. I do my part to help anyone in need whenever I can. I am currently taking care of 6 people on my own. I am in no way rolling in money. I live paycheck to paycheck just like most folks in this economy, but I do believe in change and I do believe that we can do it together and I REFUSE to give up and go backward into the doom & gloom they have also preached at us for years again in another attempt to control us! I believe that positive energy in mass will have a huge affect and it’s happening. I will not feed the dark any longer!! Love & Light John!!
Of course, since Heather said she took all the money and precious metals from the PTW, and hid it in a safe place, and clearly must have access to it, SHE doesn’t have to worry about money anymore.
i think its great if heather can access it john, it will be a big problem if she cant , haha
The link is somewhere in this thread, will. It is the one where they are talking about seeing each other flying with green hands while they were preparing a cricket pitch as a landing pad for space aliens.
Oh wow, so funny, thank you John, you are awesome! You are staying calm in the face of much criticism, it seems the “love and light” crew is getting really frazzled and upset. I am all for everything going as planned, but The One People have not followed through on anything they said they would. That is just reality.
Lol. Frazzled? By John? Hahaha. It has been said that the ptw infiltrate every group to promote their own agenda. Just saying….there can only be one reason why someone who doesn’t believe in what Heather and ground crew have done and are doing to be investing so much time and energy on a blog inspired by them. When I don’t believe in someone(s) or things I turn and walk away. Love & Light to you!!!!
http://oraclesandhealers.wordpress.com/2013/06/09/poofness-an-historic-week-9-june-2013/
Here’s Poof and Fulford back in 2010…sound familiar?
http://archive.feedblitz.com/715643/~3908782
http://gaiaportal.wordpress.com/
http://lucas2012infos.wordpress.com/2013/06/10/lucas-from-old-to-new-clash-of-perceptions-clearing-the-path-for-new-perceptions-and-you-in-the-new-10-june-2013/#more-55955
Oh how this applies…lol
The point still stands that from our vantage point, project XIII hasn’t moved from what we can tell. That people then are defending them inspite of them having nothing to show, well that’s their problem.
I’m just concerned as to when the project will be up and running; As it was told it would be. Why you go out on a limb to defend them so much, Tonia, I have no idea. John is simply expressing a, in my opinion, very valid concern as to whether or not anything is happening and if it is, why are we not being told anything? I am quite intrigued as to why so many are willing to spring to their defence when so far no progress on project XIII has been seen?
You talk about shifting energies and not projecting fear and doubt, but not everyone lives in surroundings that allows such a carefree existence. Survival is still a subject. That being said, I sincerely hope to see this project become, but I will not simply relinquish my concern.
Words without results are just clanging cymbals that shout “look at me!” I’ve heard enough noise in my life.
Years ago, when I consciously committed to improve my character and work on my personal flaws and overcome the baggage I was carrying around, one of the realizations I had was that I was to easily influenced by negative people. I could be angered or depressed by insignificant events. I started a campaign to remove them when identified in my everyday life.Some of these were family members, some were friends of family members, exwives etc. There were repercussions for my avoidance of these people. I was perceived as antisocial and the problem in a lot of cases. Point in case, my children’s mother, I avoided contact when possible and refused to help out when she had needs that I could have addressed. The kids did not understand and still don’t. Recently, i have felt that I had grown enough to change that policy and have taken steps to reengage so to speak. Funny thing, now that I have gone “crazy”, a lot have people have withdrawn from me and aren’t interested in reconciliation. What now, huh? Patience I think. But my point here is that we’ve been guilty here of allowing outside influence to affect our consciousness. We can continue to engage and empower or …….. we can disconnect . I choose to disconnect but that’s my personal need. We all have different needs. Ask yourself what your’s are. Rumor has it that Heather has asked for meeting with White Dragon Society,new Wells Fargo owners, but I have not been able to find any confirmation. What would it mean if true?
hey ken, sources of the rumor?
My personal source was the same source that put me on this phase of my journey back in January, a family member and loved one. He monitors a different group of sources from me and we try to cross reference each other for consistency and credibility. Our system works to a degree but not 100%. I asked for his source but he hasn’t responded as yet. I will say, he monitors sources than are more critical of OPPT than mine. Some of our shared sources have gone off the radar just like OPPT. Some are making public mistakes now about their true agenda. Alex Jones stated on camera that he has no belief in ET’s and associated government coverup. Hard to discrimate. BTW Alex Jones is not one of the sources I consider reliable, I only mentioned him because you did.For the record, the battle for financial control is not over. Funds of any kind are not necessarily secure. Hackers on both sides are still doing their thing. Speculations are unavoidable I guess but we must stay positive for our own sake,
I agree with you Ken…thanks for sharing!!
John’s right..that was an old post, but I will tell you what I read most recently was that Caleb is planning to launch Project XIII for free and worry about the payment facilitation issue after it’s up and running just to get it up so I’m sure as soon as they return from the desert (as it was very important that they all participate and they ran out of time) they will launch it. I also read recently that Heather is indeed in touch with the principals and that her underwriting the RV was very significant. I think things can occur that alter and change plans, but I in no way believe that they have just collected donations, ran off and abandoned us. If they do John I will give you a big apology, but for now I remain positive in what I feel in my heart…not my head!!
Negative is very different from Realistic.
I guess that would depend on the individuals perception of reality. Mine is just not directed by negativity. I won’t allow fear to rule my thoughts or actions. That’s my choice and my inspiration. I’ve been ruled by fear, controlled by worry and unable to get out of my own way. I’m just past that now.
The rumor comes from a three month old post quoting Heather that has made the rounds today. Of course, nothing she said came to pass. The original poster acknowledged that she didn’t realize it was an old post. But, once these things have wings…
It would appear that most of the follows are very new to any of the higher energetic work and are completely oblivious to the ‘Monty python sketch’ played out in morocco and now being played out in the desert!!!! For goodness sake go research on the energetic side and what is needed to integrate these energies in a real way. Also many are concerned for those following these people who have been funded by people who trusted them. They are all completely inexperienced in not only the spiritual side of things but also the financial. People are coming on here to assist but there is a huge hypnotic trance going on where people are now in fear of letting go of their expectations.
WE are all beautiful beings of love and light!!! Each and every one of us. I believe in every one of you!! I believe in me! Survival is key for me too…don’t think it’s not. I never said it wasn’t, but I have overcome much in my life and I’ve shared some but I will share more so that you can all appreciate where I come from. I was taken from my real mother at the age of 3 where I ended up being physically, sexually, mentally, and emotionally abused DAILY until I was 12 years old. An opportunity presented it’s self to me (oddly enough the fear of not speaking…you know Speak now or forever hold your peace as I was threatened with death or the eventuality that I would live to regret it if I ever said anything) and I took it. It was an inner knowing that gave me the courage. This man wasn’t just abusing me..he was also abusing others….I had to speak and as a result I was removed and it was nothing short of a miracle!!! I was then placed back up for adoption so I have been adopted twice..I traveled through foster care homes where I was again subject to abuse..but I did finally get out of that and moved in with a very controlling individual which ultimately pushed me to lose control and self destruct and landed myself in rehab for cocaine. It has taken me years to let go of my past and to forgive what has happened to me BUT I AM the example that I need to know that change is possible. So I am all about change and believing in people and their abilities to be the change they want to see in the world.
As far as Project XIII..I believe that it will be launched as soon as it can be. I also believe the UV IXchange will be launched and the value will be there. I also believe the reset of the global economy is going to happen. I believe that the absolute data is being presented to each and everyone of us right now if we choose to look for it. I BELIEVE!! I can’t help it…I just do…it’s in my heart!!!
Tonia, do not put too much faith in people you meet on the Internet. Heather is not what she claims. And that is about to become abundantly obvious.
We will see John…but I will make that decision for myself and not because of what you keep trying to convince me of and either way John…my eyes are open and I will still believe and be the change I want to see in this world! Plain and Simple…NO ONE CAN KEEP ME DOWN Unless i allow them to.
I look at this thread as a precursor to what’s to come with the I UV Exchange, and by extension, the post-collapse. People are beginning to look towards each other for consensus about moving forward into a post-collapse existence. No point just starting up after the fact. Anyone can NOW see what’s happening in the world, unless that person doesn’t want to see what’s happening. This thread is a precursor to the whole idea of an I UV Exchange (or UV Ixchange). People have been awakening at very individual paces, but it’s clear from the many alternative news coverages @ this point in time that the awakening factor is becoming exponential. The outcome of any one “movement” isn’t the point really, b/c any and all movements that further the awakening and stimulate humanity to reach out to itself in a constructive creative manner is the point of this and any other movement, whether that movement purports to include sustenance for the masses or only encouragement and inspiration. Individuals harping about this fine point and that fine point clearly miss the real point, which is something Barbra Streisand made famous eons ago, about people needing people. All this other stuff is simply manifestation of individual endeavors towards creating a new way of BE’ing. We already know the entire world has progressed past the point of return towards the future and that the institutions are on their way out, but only if we have ears to hear & eyes to see. Those who don’t will yammer on and on ad infinitum, and their energies will eventually have to either pony up to what we’re moving toward, or dissipate altogether, as per this excerpt: “We know that as the positive vibrational frequencies rise the ones that thrive on negative energy (that won’t change) won’t be able to survive & this is why they are scared & trying everything they can to keep people in fear through mis & disinfo!” - from a recent article. When someone continues communicating but in a negative manner, the reasons are few. It’s either deliberate for disruptive purposes, or it reflects back onto that individual. As weird as it may seem to some of us, lotsa folks actually DO thrive on negative energy. Everything I’ve read about that indicates it’s healthier to avoid people like that when their negative energy begins to override. If anyone’s done any reading at all about what’s up the road for humanity, it’s also obvious that the shift we’re going through is a gradual one. Most with eyes to see/ears to hear already know that, so that’s why we’re not “yeah, butting” everything around us. I had a childhood friend once who developed into the kind of personality that would say “yeah, but…” after anything anyone ever said. Yeah, but this, yeah but that… Always some negative comment. Sad to say, in spite of the childhood years we spent together, I finally had to get out of that person’s life. The drain was just too much. Perhaps there’s a spirit attachment involved in cases like that, or maybe it has to do with brain wiring, or just paid trollish, either way, same result. Total drain, if u let it. Tonia apparently knows that from the far side. God bless U, Tonia. I can’t think of anything worse than experiencing that as a child. I had post-divorce stepparents who were energy vampires, so I got enough of a taste of the possibility of that kind of childhood, I let my kids come up with none of that negative parental garbage. They continually thank me for it, now that they’ve had a chance to see what it looks like in their own experience. It can be very debilitating to have to go through even the lesser types of abuse. Hats off to U Tonia!!! U remind me of my sister, who experienced a lot worse than I did. U’r attitude is extremely enlightening and uplifting. I know there’s a divine center to everyone that comes from the Creator, and I wish I could assist those who can’t connect with their own center to do so, but that apparently is not my strong suit(!). I sincerely hope people who aren’t really “getting” what’s going on in the world enough to calm down and stop niggling the bejesus out of everyone else will eventually find their divine center, but in order to function, I choose to no longer engage with those types b/c unlike some, I have not been able to shield myself from that sort of thing successfully. Ken & Tonia & Will & everyone else here who’ve tried to express positivity are looking to the big picture and not just this thread on this site. But we all need to come together (per the Beatles’s lyrics) to re-create this world as the old collapses, and that’s what most folks on this thread are all about. That’s what matters, and that’s where my energies are going. Anything else is just distraction and attention seeking. “Here Comes the Sun”…
Wow…Thank YOU Lisi…that was amazing. I can feel your energy (love) and that was a wonderful exchange which is much appreciated!!!
Right back at ya!! I am also sorry for the pain you and your sister endured and the rest of the world. I once again agree with everything you’ve said. Love & Light!!
Tonia, Caleb is having a problem figuring out a way to get payment because he can’t let the IRS know he has any income. In 2011 he tried to run a 1099C scam on the IRS, alleging he had $2.5 billion in canceled debt and using that to offset money he owed to the IRS. Here is the link to a very long pdf. Start on page 44 to see what he was up to. He is basically trying to hide income from the IRS. http://ronmamita.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/2011119645.pdf So, he is going to have to find someone who will run the payments through their business account and then pay him in cash. It appears, from the contract Heather talks about, that perhaps he is going to run it through her husbands business to accept payments.
The first 43 pages is the elaborate process of the UCC redemption scheme. You need to understand that Caleb and Heather were deep into the UCC Redemption movement. Her story that she was a lawyer in the financial realm is simply not true. She was a personal injury lawyer who got into this Redemption movement where she met a really bad player, Charles Miller. She, Caleb and Charles Miller hatched this scheme that they named OPPT, based on the very scam that put Charles Miller in prison.
that she was a lawyer in the financial realm is simply not true
http://www.cdrex.com/heather-ann-tucci-jarraf/2680707.html
This has been linked. before. This appears to be some kind of shell company that has consistently lost money each year.
LOL John…so he practices what he preaches…YES..that’s good news!! He’s not the only one sick of the IRS and the fraud that surrounds the so called voluntary taxes. If it is indeed the truth I certainly wouldn’t believe the IRS!! And what’s more good news is atleast he’s obviously in your own words planning to launch. PERFECT..THANK YOU!!!
I don’t think he is about to launch anything. We shall see.
whats the significance of a fee charging social networking site ?
I’ve just been taking everyone’s opinions and replies into my cerebellum.for the past 2 months. Conclusion: Nothing on here makes one ounce of sense and scratch my head wondering why anyone would be a part of a worthless,
nondescriptive blog such as this. This is typical 3-D, spoon feed me crap so that I am comfey in my little world of make
believe in Mr. Roger’s Neighborhood.
Won’t you be mine, Won’t you be mine. Won’t you be my neighbor. Hi neighbor.
Lisi, your energy is incredible. Are you of scottish descent by any chance? Not important, just wondering.
Yup.
Me too, nice to meet you, having sinking spell, going home to nap now.
Sinking spells, fun huh? Astragalus good 4 that! (Adaptogen)… (Might ck; Swanson Health Products online - lotsa BOGOs! Very very reasonable…good stuff). Naps R great 2 tho’!!!!! G’day!
Hi neighbor! Some may not see it or understand it, but Mister Rogers was modeling something even the most cynical ,hardbitten misanthropes can now be shown actually had an uplifting effect on the populace:
“15 REASONS MISTER ROGERS WAS THE BEST NEIGHBOR EVER
by Mangesh Hattikudur
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Back when I was in 7th grade I stood up in front of my English class and delivered a tongue-in-cheek, poorly researched presentation on why I thought Mister Rogers should be the next President. I ate up the first few minutes zipping up my cardigan, and putting on some sneakers, and then I proceeded to mock him roundly. It was a riotous success. Fourteen years later, I’m using this post to repent. The following are 15 things everyone should know about Fred Rogers:
1. EVEN KOKO THE GORILLA LOVED HIM
Most people have heard of Koko, the Stanford-educated gorilla who could speak about 1000 words in American Sign Language, and understand about 2000 in English. What most people don’t know, however, is that Koko was an avid Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood fan. As Esquire reported, when Fred Rogers took a trip out to meet Koko for his show, not only did she immediately wrap her arms around him and embrace him, she did what she’d always seen him do onscreen: she proceeded to take his shoes off!
2. HE MADE THIEVES THINK TWICE
According to a TV Guide profile, Fred Rogers drove a plain old Impala for years. One day, however, the car was stolen from the street near the TV station. When Rogers filed a police report, the story was picked up by every newspaper, radio and media outlet around town. Amazingly, within 48 hours the car was left in the exact spot where it was taken from, with an apology on the dashboard. It read, “If we’d known it was yours, we never would have taken it.”
3. HE WATCHED HIS FIGURE TO THE POUND
In covering Rogers’ daily routine (waking up at 5; praying for a few hours for all of his friends and family; studying; writing, making calls and reaching out to every fan who took the time to write him; going for a morning swim; getting on a scale; then really starting his day), writer Tom Junod explained that Mr. Rogers weighed in at exactly 143 pounds every day for the last 30 years of his life. He didn’t smoke, didn’t drink, didn’t eat the flesh of any animals, and was extremely disciplined in his daily routine. And while I’m not sure if any of that was because he’d mostly grown up a chubby, single child, Junod points out that Rogers found beauty in the number 143. According to the piece, Rogers came “to see that number as a gift”¦ because, as he says, “the number 143 means ‘I love you.’ It takes one letter to say ‘I’ and four letters to say ‘love’ and three letters to say ‘you.’ One hundred and forty-three.”
4. HE SAVED BOTH PUBLIC TELEVISION AND THE VCR
Strange but true. When the government wanted to cut Public Television funds in 1969, the relatively unknown Mister Rogers went to Washington. Almost straight out of a Capra film, his testimony on how TV had the potential to give kids hope and create more productive citizens was so simple but passionate that even the most gruff politicians were charmed. While the budget should have been cut, the funding instead jumped from $9 to $22 million. Rogers also swayed the Supreme Court to allow VCRs to record television shows from the home. It was a cantankerous debate at the time, but his argument was that recording a program like his allowed working parents to sit down with their children and watch shows as a family.
5. HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE MOST TOLERANT AMERICAN EVER
Mister Rogers seems to have been almost exactly the same off-screen as he was onscreen. As an ordained Presbyterian minister, and a man of tremendous faith, Mister Rogers preached tolerance first. Whenever he was asked to castigate non-Christians or gays for their differing beliefs, he would instead face them and say, with sincerity, “God loves you just the way you are.” Often this provoked ire from fundamentalists.
6. HE WAS GENUINELY CURIOUS ABOUT OTHERS
Mister Rogers was known as one of the toughest interviews because he’d often befriend reporters, asking them tons of questions, taking pictures of them, compiling an album for them at the end of their time together, and calling them after to check in on them and hear about their families. He wasn’t concerned with himself, and genuinely loved hearing the life stories of others. Amazingly, it wasn’t just with reporters. Once, on a fancy trip up to a PBS exec’s house, he heard the limo driver was going to wait outside for 2 hours, so he insisted the driver come in and join them (which flustered the host). On the way back, Rogers sat up front, and when he learned that they were passing the driver’s home on the way, he asked if they could stop in to meet his family. According to the driver, it was one of the best nights of his life—the house supposedly lit up when Rogers arrived, and he played jazz piano and bantered with them late into the night. Further, like with the reporters, Rogers sent him notes and kept in touch with the driver for the rest of his life.
7. HE WAS COLOR-BLIND
Literally. He couldn’t see the color blue. Of course, he was also figuratively color-blind, as you probably guessed. As were his parents who took in a black foster child when Rogers was growing up.
8. HE COULD MAKE A SUBWAY CAR FULL OF STRANGERS SING
Once while rushing to a New York meeting, there were no cabs available, so Rogers and one of his colleagues hopped on the subway. Esquire reported that the car was filled with people, and they assumed they wouldn’t be noticed. But when the crowd spotted Rogers, they all simultaneously burst into song, chanting “It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood.” The result made Rogers smile wide.
A few more things about him…
9. He Got into TV Because He Hated TV. The first time he turned one on, he saw people angrily throwing pies in each other’s faces. He immediately vowed to use the medium for better than that. Over the years he covered topics as varied as why kids shouldn’t be scared of a haircut, or the bathroom drain (because you won’t fit!), to divorce and war.
10. He Was an Ivy League Dropout. Rogers moved from Dartmouth to Rollins College to pursue his studies in music.
11. He Composed all the Songs on the Show, and over 200 tunes.
12. He Was a perfectionist, and Disliked Ad Libbing. He felt he owed it to children to make sure every word on his show was thought out.
13. Michael Keaton Got His Start on the Show as an assistant — helping puppeteer and operate the trolley.
14. Several Characters on the Show are Named for His Family. Queen Sara is named after Rogers’ wife, and the postman Mr. McFeely is named for his maternal grandfather who always talked to him like an adult, and reminded young Fred that he made every day special just by being himself. Sound familiar? It was the same way Mister Rogers closed every show.
15. The Sweaters. Every one of the cardigans he wore on the show had been hand-knit by his mother.
I can’t sign off with out citing Tom Junod’s wonderful profile of Fred Rogers and his obituary for him. They are two of the most lovely pieces I’ve (re)read in a very long time. Our researcher Kara Kovalchik also deserves credit for digging them up on an internet archive located here.”
http://mentalfloss.com/article/16416/15-reasons-mister-rogers-was-best-neighbor-ever#ixzz2VqJuqaab
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Its very simple you know, Heather and Brian both ‘woke up’ about 18 months ago, D was an aggressive activist, Lisa was someone who had been dabbling in lots of things and spent a lot of time around different financial schemes in as recent as February 2013 - although she denied it on line the proof is still on the internet - Dee also very involved with financial schemes like Nesara. They all went along with Heather’s soaring dragon affect - (where she was awakened to the spiritual side and more energetic side by Charles C. Miller and Randall and instead of grounding herself and learning the real skills of how to use this energy with disciplined meditation) she rose into the totally illusionary side of thinking she could muster up 5D whilst we are in a physical body. Unfortunately she already pulled in the others, Lisa was disappointed because 21/12 and the culmination of her countdown shows amounted to nothing much and was looking for something to quickly fill the gap! But what about the 200,000 they say were on the shows in the beginning what were they all following! Because certainly none of lisas crew did any research and certainly none of these 2nd rung of followers did either - UCC filings only apply in the US - check out the paperwork for yourselves. UCC filings are filings in a commercial uniform code system they do not make new laws, foreclosures or anything like that. Did heather spend $1 million as lisa said on one of the recent shows. No, she did not. Did she put up her house as a test. No, she did not - when she met Charles miller who paid all the $28 dollars for each of the filings and still has the receipts, her house was nigh foreclosed on then. he tried to help her but it was too late. Total outlay for filings probably aroun d $280 dollars at the most. She went to Morocco because she lost her house, why do you think she went! You think they believe in their value but how many of you paid for Brians so called new computer when he asked for donations, who paid for D’s tickets for herself, her five children and her husband, Lisa’s ticket was paid for by a healer because she couldnt pay it herself. Bob’s there because donations were asked for. The person running this site is now moving house and being looked after by donations. WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO WAKE UP!
hi linda, can u elaborate more on charles millar?
Charles C. Miller is a big advocate of the UCC Redemption scheme. He taught people how to file UCC financing statements (it’s all pretty complex), supposedly get the IRS to pay our debts, etc. Numerous people he taught went to prison. Ultimately, he himself was convicted of just these things, and writing $30 million dollars worth of “sight drafts,” bogus checks with which he bought luxury homes, cars and boats.
If you spoke to charlie miller personally, which I have for hours, you will find that heather’s house was foreclosed on at the time she met him. He has told me that she did not use it as a test case, she actually asked him for help but it was too late to do anything about it. you also mentioned that he just gifted heather the ucc control that he had thru his filings - according to him he did not gift it to her and also they did not part in a good way. I know the details and he certainly was not happy over heathers behaviour at the time. Heather actually didnt wake up to anything spiritual until fairly recently and this is why she is so dramatic and over the top in a spacey kind of way - Randall one of the trustees said that when he met her about 18 months ago she was very much the left brain lawyer - it was through randall and charlie millers influence that heather began to pick up the other side but as you know she certainly isnt adept in fact i would call it totally pseudo new age speak and she has no idea how to retain the higher energy in a real way.
the blogger crews…. i wonder why heather picked them, we all listened to the shows, so you know what i mean. however i do believe the ucc filings are valid and applicable worldwide
check out the oppt-truth site on facebook. all the research is there on the fact that ucc filings are only relevant in the US. the scheme they set up did influence other countries to set up there own systems, or most countries but they are all different. wikipedia is a very basic start for those who have done no research at all for themselves!!!!!!! the UCC filings in the US are only filings, you dont make people bankrupt by just filing a financial statement! as someone on here said , they have all been removed because they were fraudulent and heather thinks that is ok, pity nobody listened to that, people are so hypnotised by the idea of getting money and being so called ‘free’ that it all passes over them.
I called the Chamber of Commerce where she practiced, and talked to some nice folks at a couple of professional organizations there at the suggestion of the Chamber. She practiced law a total of about 10 years, specialized in personal injury cases and the consensus was that she was pretty good at it. Apparently the financial crash hit the area pretty hard, which eventually effected her business, and she ultimately lost her home to foreclosure. The people I talked to said that in their interaction with her, she never brought up the “5D” language I described to them. One guy said he was glad I had called because he had no idea where they had gone. I have him the phone number she has published online.
If you spoke to charlie miller personally, which I have for hours, you will find that heather’s house was foreclosed on at the time she met him. He has told me that she did not use it as a test case, she actually asked him for help but it was too late to do anything about it. you also mentioned that he just gifted heather the ucc control that he had thru his filings - according to him he did not gift it to her and also they did not part in a good way. I know the details and he certainly was not happy over heathers behaviour at the time. Heather actually didnt wake up to anything spiritual until fairly recently and this is why she is so dramatic and over the top in a spacey kind of way - Randall one of the trustees said that when he met her about 18 months ago she was very much the left brain lawyer - it was through randall and charlie millers influence that heather began to pick up the other side but as you know she certainly isnt adept in fact i would call it totally pseudo new age speak and she has no idea how to retain the higher energy in a real way.
UCC filings do not only apply in the U.S:
Re: UCC
http://euro-union-court.org/info_ecclesiastical_deed/edp_ucc.htm
Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) , is a private collection of commercial, financial and transaction laws first presented in draft form by the American Law Institute in 1943 with its 1st official publication in 1952. Its ongoing development is now administered by the National Conference of Commissioners on Uniform State Laws (NCCUSL) and has now been enacted in all of the 50 states of the United States as well as the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, Guam and the US Virgin Islands.
AS ALL NATIONS and states are registered in the state of Delaware through the SEC system of 1933, UCC applies to all nations and their “employees” when treated as corporations and registered commercial “vessels”.
There is some deliberate ambiguity concerning registration of foreign entities such as nations and states with the State of Delaware through the updated definition of “registered organizations” under Article 9 stating registered organizations includes “corporations, limited liability companies and limited partnerships”.
For registration and notice of debts within the domestic United States or territories, the state of the debtor is the state in which a filing must occur. However, when dealing with a non-United States location, the filing must be through either the State of Delaware when the nation or state is registered or the District of Columbia which is the second point of registration for “non registered organizations”.
The reason this system was introduced and its purpose is to provide the legal mechanism for the International Monetary Fund (IMF) as a collector and manager of debts and repayments owed by various nations registered as corporations through the State of Delaware. These conditions were established as part of the bankruptcy administration of countries since 1933 and subsequently updated for the benefit of all nations, states and private/public registered corporations to ensure significant debts are paid.
As a result, should a legitimate debt be owed by any nation or state/province in the world, the UCC system may be utilized as a means of giving notice within the global banking/legal/corporate system of a valid debt being owed.
In all cases, the existence of a valid debt being registered through a UCC filing is a prerequisite before pursuing additional remedy of the global banking/legal/corporate system such as a ruling from the International Court of Justice (ICJ) at the Hague which can then be collected through the Bank for International Settlements (BIS).
All the legalese is difficult for me. I recently struggled thru Judge Gale’s ” Great American Adventure”. etc.Painful read for me. What I took from it was that by the time americans are 7 yrs old, they are assumed(declared) dead and reinstated as a corporation, therefore having no human rights. Also, we were never a republic as such so in effect, constitution and bill of rights were meaningless. The UCC, court systems, and corporate reality is explained in detail .The depth of the conspiracy is revealed in detail. The last part explains in detail how to counter the legal system. Problem is still, width and depth of the conspiracy, Until disclosure takes place, we remain enslaved. I don’t know or care who Heather was unless she is not responsible for the filings. If she did in fact create the documents and file the filings, then she is a heroin, if she didn’t, then that’s another matter. As to Miller going to jail, you have to ask yourself, who put him there? IRS another corporation filed under and responsible to Vatican. The complexity of the issues we are now facing are mind boggling. No wonder we are all confused and in each other’s face, but the fact remains, we are are part of the greatest struggle in human history. Pick your side and give your support, it’s just that simple. Anyone confusing the issues is suspect in my opinion. Spirituality also creates confusion, a part of the white hats are not embracing the conscious elevating side of this war. A good heart and the right intentions I think are enough to put on a white hat, but it doesn’t overcome communication issues. I believe it will come to a head very soon and tolerance will be easier to manifest. Personally,I think the Fourth of July would be a perfect venue to declare our new freedom. Love and light.
By her own acknowledgement, all of Heather’s filings have been removed from the UCC system by the PTW because, they said, they were fraudulent…not valid documents. She says that it doesn’t matter, though, because they still stand because they stand in “universal law.” But, Heather also says that whether they stand or not doesn’t matter, that the filings were only a tool to make people conscious. Supposedly, the purpose of the gurus going into the desert was to bring about the finality, and reveal absolute data on their return. We shall see.
The filings are still available via the Washington portal: https://gov.propertyinfo.com/dc-washington/
Just checked yesterday
Lots to consider…..Lisi, you should write some more, i really like your candid style. and you are so right about people who live on negative energy. the others of us just need to be aware of the effects of this negativity and continue… be what we know to be and do what we feel is needed. it’s a learning process and requires patience and tolerance for others and ourselves. in response to Linda’s question… we will wake up when we hear the alarm of TRUTH. if people have said they were acting on behalf of humanity, in transparency, and have not, we will know. in the meantime, let those who would offer support, in whatever form, do what they are lead to do. it’s their energy, these are complicated times. it’s a good idea to take in as much info as you can get your brain around and sit on it. let it simmer. act on it when it feels right to YOU. also Lisi, i’m from Mr. Rodgers “neighborhood”! i live near pittsburgh and sent him artwork as a child. i have a hand written thank you from him that i cherish. he and my dad were born the same year. i love his studio and there is a museum room in pitt. with a trolley kids can sit in and all the puppet friends, his sweaters etc. really cool! he lived in pain the last years of his life but continued to work. love that man!!!!!
Lstening to the One People’s Radio show. The ground crew is on a bus on their way back to Tangier. Bob Wright has walked 20 meters. Project XIII was suppose to launch for windows phones today. The desktop within this week I believe he said and the IPhone will launch with the next iTunes release which they said happens once a month. So any windows phones out there? If so can you check it out and let us know?? Thanks. Love & Light
There is no Project XIII app on the Windows Phone app store site at this time.
Unfortunately mr Chris hales has no clue as to what the others are actually doing in the desert. Are thefy now healers or fighting for the people of the world? Why wouldn’t they give a clear message to Chris as to the IVU exchange and project 13 for the show tonight This truly reminds me of Jim jones and the magic spell he put into his followers in the jungles
I do not doubt for a minute of Chris hales motives but I sincerely doubt heathers Caleb Lisa Brian’s and bobs and D motives and their sincerity about IVU exchange this is not being judgemental but only my opinion what’s yours ? They show no interest about the oppt or anything they told us what would happen on June 1 st evidently KP has given up posting these
Summaries on his web site I wonder why ?
Tonia, your comment below,
“Lol. Frazzled? By John? Hahaha. It has been said that the ptw infiltrate every group to promote their own agenda. Just saying….there can only be one reason why someone who doesn’t believe in what Heather and ground crew have done and are doing to be investing so much time and energy on a blog inspired by them.”
Obviously you’re suggesting that John is a PTW spy, because the one and only reason someone would challenge Heather is because they are a member of the Elite, Cabal, 1% whatever.
Umm, let’s see…Currently I am 100% in John’s camp and this is the reason why: My thought processes are ruled by logic, reason and rational thinking. Hey look at that! That suggests I’m stuck in my brain and not allowing my heart to ‘feel’ and over rule. I have instinct, I have gut feelings, and when I recognise any particular instinct and gut feeling, I listen to them and decide with my logical, reasoning and rational brain what has merit and what action or none that I’ll take.
Aside from that, the fact that I’m 100% in John’s camp, that is I too challenge and question Heather’s motives, by your logic must mean I am also a spy, sent to infiltrate and cause division and confusion. OR, that you might simply suggest that I’m weak enough in the brain to be swayed by John’s superior powers of manipulation and I’m Baa-baa-ing at his feet.
It’s actually quite cruel to suggest, as you do, that someone might have an agenda of division simply because they question something, which just happens to be something that you feel strongly about and choose to believe in whole heartedly. Why is John still participating in this forum? Why am I? Because we want answers, simple as that. You can’t and haven’t been able to provide answers. So in this interim in the absence of the people that can provide the answers, what’s happening here currently, is a bunch of people simply waiting, biding their time, and spewing forth their own personal beliefs. John in particular is at least providing some factual evidence of people’s past doings.
My gut feeling or instinct is that some would take my line of questioning as a personal attack toward you. That’s up to them of course. But I can reassure you that I’m simply taking you to task on what you have stated and that it’s not personal. I can’t think of anything I would have to gain by personally attacking you anyway.
So in the interim, I’m curious. In your opinion am I too only here with the same agenda you accuse of John of having?
Second point: Below you state,
“As far as Project XIII..I believe that it will be launched as soon as it can be. I also believe the UV IXchange will be launched and the value will be there. I also believe the reset of the global economy is going to happen. I believe that the absolute data is being presented to each and everyone of us right now if we choose to look for it. I BELIEVE!! I can’t help it…I just do…it’s in my heart!!!”
Can you please clearly explain what you believe the ‘value’ of the UV IXchange is that you refer to above and also, what the result is of the resetting of the global economy? I only ask because I have no idea what either are or could be. As you have a strong belief about them I might learn something.
A general comment to anyone and no-one:
We are all so obviously a result of our experiences in life. More so than what we hear, see or read, our actual experiences provide the true position from which we project our thoughts, beliefs and actions. Some have survived utter disrespect to mind and body, had trust shattered and all manner of harsh and cruel acts perpetrated against them and I so highly commend any of those people coming through that not only surviving but also thriving in goodness from it. Some have had no more than a severe wood splinter or paper cut to deal with in their lives against the grand scheme of things. Either way, each persons conduct is a result of those experiences.
When you look at the division of this forum from the accepting faith camp to the reserved and questioning camp, it’s not hard to see who may have suffered more than others, generally speaking.
very valid point mark.. we question, because there is no data !
I’m a simple, linear thinking guy. I evaluate peoples words based on their results.
Heather said, and posted a lot of UCC documents supporting her words, that she had foreclosed on all the corporations and governments in the world, that she had taken all of their money, all of their gold and silver, and safely hidden it away for the one people. She said that because of her action, all corporations and governments are dead, that they can no longer function.
Now, here we are, six months later, and they are all still functioning. And Heather is in Morocco preparing landing strips for space aliens. Heather’s claims and the situation in the real world do not match up. Yes, I’ve heard all of the excuses. But the simple, clear fact is that whatever she claims to have done has had no effect on those who she claims to have put out of business. All of her actions have had no effect. In Heather’s case, there have been lots of words, but no results.
Simple equation:
Heather said she shut down the corporations and governments of the world.
Six months later they are still functioning.
Heather’s claims are not true.
Thank you Mark for your being candid…I do not feel like you are attacking me in any way. I actually feel that you have legitimate questions and are keeping your mind and your heart open……waiting…..just like the rest of us. My point to John is quite different. Every comment and every statement he has shared here has been negative. To the point that it actually pushed people to turn away and THAT is why I am so intent on keeping the balance. Am I disappointed that Project XIII didn’t launch on June 1st? Yes I AM! However I also work in business and have seen the best of intentions and the best laid plans not roll out on schedule so for me that is not enough for me to throw in the towel. I’ve also sat and listened to words being twisted and things being intentionally left out from people aiming at the ground crew. I’ve also stated and wondered how Project XIII would even get off the ground when it would be very clear that the ptw would try and stop it. We know that just by all the people they have killed to silence them. Also Caleb was seriously ill for 7 plus days and feels that it was an attack and if you’ve ever had that happen to you then you know it can be quite serious. As far as the value that I believe will be in the UV IXchange…I believe it will be the $10 billion that Heather stated would be there. The entire purpose behind Project XIII is to provide a safe and secure way for us to access our value…Project XIII would not be necessary unless the UV IXchange follows and as John stated that must be what the contract between Caleb and Heather’s husband is for…I don’t know if that was the purpose for that particular contract or not but it’s not the only one she created. She also worked on one for Bob Wright to be able to buy a property person to person without the middle man and it will be an example of what we can all follow going forward. As far as the financial reset, I’m talking about NESARA…there are too many different groups talking about this and how it’s moving forward…The original NESARA was suppose to roll out on 9/11 and you know what the ptw did to stop that from happening. That being said I believe it’s going to happen and I believe it’s going to happen soon. At this point too many people have too much at stake.
Back to John…he hasn’t offered me any concrete proof of anything. He contacted the Chamber of Commerce…hmmm…and I would trust them? He posted something stating that Caleb attempted to scam the IRS and he’s not in jail…Really? He also has stated that Heather & Caleb followed Charles Miller and he’s now in prison..well then why is it that Heather and Caleb and Randall are free? Heather was arrested and yet they let her out??? Why???…..she clearly stated “If I didn’t do this right, I would be dead”. Someone posted something about her being the director of some company, but she also already explained that there were shell companies started during their investigations to be able to follow the corruption…could it be one of those? Idk..but neither does anyone on here, but I do know what she said when asked about a company started by her and Caleb…and I’m not convinced by the the idea that she may have specialized in a specific field while practicing law…so? Is that to say that she didn’t have the brains or ability to understand the entire legal process?…and what about Judge Dale? He is a retired Judge that has affirmed these documents as valid…he has shared so much information about the system and how it works which completely substantiates everything I had already found on my own as well as what Heather has stated. John himself has told me not to believe everything presented to me on-line..well? What happened for me here Mark is that I had come across a lot of this stuff on my own and quite by accident while researching the federal reserve long before I even heard of the OPPT…I had pieces of a puzzle based on my own inner knowing that something was seriously askew with our government which caused me to start seeking….I stumbled on the OPPT again quite by accident and I listened as pieces of the puzzle I was missing started fitting in to place and making sense. The other part of this for me was religion…I have shared quite intimate details of my childhood on this blog in transparency so that all could understand who I am and why I believe and yes I agree we do become products of our experiences and as such I made many mistakes throughout my life and the church was telling me that I was going to be punished and possibly go to hell for the mistakes I made after God thrrw me into these awful circumstances as a child I had no control over and it riddled me with fear, but it never resonated with me! It never made sense that I could be punished for making my mistakes while attempting to make my way out of the hell I was dropped in to…and for the past several years now I have believed that “religion” was just an attempt to control the masses and that inner knowing set me free if you will…all my fears started to dissipate and anger took it’s place because I knew there were LOTS of people out there needing healing and were too afraid to seek it because they were sure they were going to be judged and sent to hell!!! I have offered my support to all that have come to me in this life in an attempt to set them free from their self judgement and judgement of others and imploring all to forgive because forgiving sets your soul free and I once believed it was the best revenge…living free and being happy in spite of those that would steal your energy and your love. I refused to give my abusers that satisfaction Anyway I’m past that now and believe that we are all one and that God/Creator is inside each and every one of us and THAT is what they have tried so desperately to keep from us in a successful attempt thus far to coax us all into seeking outside validation and value rather than opening up and accepting that we have all the ability we need already to overcome this!!
Brothers/ Sisters… my observation is, you are not questioning but debunking and trying to sway belief that what you are saying is the absolute data, have patience.
TRUTH, LOVE & LIGHT WILL SET US FREE…
GOD BLESS…US ALL HIS CREATION.
I’m struck by Mister Rogers quote “God loves you just the way you are.” (TOTALLY KOOL about Mister Roger’s neighborhood in Pittsburg! I once spent an afternoon looking for Captain Kangaroo at a fairground, but barely missed him. I was in my 40′s! Taking my daughter around to introduce her to him, he was my early childhood favorite TV guy! But by the time I got to his booth, he had left and didn’t come back, then I heard a couple years after that he had passed - it was so sad! Wish I’d had a CK souvenir!)
Guess everyone’s patience threshold is different for different things, individuals R selective about when to exercise patience (i know i am!).. I recall having so much patience as a child, one day in 3rd grade, we were all sitting on the floor in Ms. Peoples’ class (that was really her name), and she was having problems w/the projector, which I was sitting directly in front of, supporting myself w/my arms sprawled backwards to one side of it. The room was dark, and she comes clomping down the aisle in her royal purple high heels and big royal purple skirt, and fiddled with the film for a bit, then mumbled something, sounded like she was having ongoing technical difficulties. Somehow, she pivoted one of her heel spikes right onto my left outstretched ring finger, and kept a good part of her weight on it (i can still feel it, thinking about it), but i was extremely shy and totally afraid to say anything. Like I thought my face would explode B4 she got off of it. Then of course, when she did, she sort of ground it more into the floor than when she was standing on it. Wut the heck, i guess personalities are just very different. Had I been in my 50′s (was an activist then) when that happened, it would have been a totally different story. Maybe Mister Rogers is a throwback to earlier times.
Just B4 running errands, ran across this book, it was sliding out of the hall bookshelf, forgot it was there…Life Without Stress, The Far Eastern Antidote to Tension and Anxiety, by Arthur Sokoloff. Had to pick it up B/C one day I walked through the hallway and didn’t see something that fell off and suddenly wound up w/my nose buried in the carpet. Where the pages opened up, it starts off, “Let us pause for a moment, and consider the nature of genius. One of its qualities is the ability to observe something seen by countless others, but to draw from it a viewpoint hitherto unknown. Sir Alexander Fleming in the 1940′s saw mold growing on bread, a common sight to all, and from this continued on to the discovery of penicillin. Sir Isaac Newton, as the humorous legend goes, was sitting under an apple tree; when an apple fell on his head, he “discovered” gravity. As Sherlock Holmes remarked to Dr. Watson, “We see, but we do not observe.” The chapter goes on to talk about Lao-tzu, “a wandering teacher and philosopher,” what he taught about, and “keeping it simple.” It says the Chinese have an expression, “painting feet on the snake”, which refers to situations made more complicated than they need to be. “We can be happier people if we reduce the complexity of both our outer and inner lives.” …”When our inner selves become more and more complex, when we drift further and further from our basic nature, which is, in fact, simple and childlike, there is a penalty to pay. For it is the child-nature that has the most fun, that looks out upon the world with wonder and awe, that enjoys life. How many times have you seen a child discard a complicated toy and play for hours with the box it came in? Simple does not mean foolish. It means returning to the basic values of life which are plain and self-evident. It means acting spontaneously and intuitively. Sometimes our wonderfully logical Western mentality can lead us astray, giving us false values. At times we should try thinking with out hearts rather than our heads.”
It goes on to talk about “wu-wei”, which means “nonaction” or “doing by not doing.” I remember reading this book over and over in spare moments back when working 12+ hr days and juggling kids, traffic and everything else (desperation?!!). Since leaving all of that some years back, and having difficulty recently getting hired in a very dead rural economic area, it struck me a couple months ago to just see what it’s like after all those years of rat-racing to try doing nothing at all in this perfect opportunity, and it’s really not very easy. Maybe our “go-getter” programming is impossible to get rid of completely. I do think a lot of us here are going on our intuition rather than totally on logic (that would be me), so it’s interesting to watch the dynamics of that. It’s enjoyable to compare notes, though, while attempting “doing by not doing.” Mark’s “general comment” makes great sense, to me anyhow & it’s humbling to see patience coming from folks who’ve had great adversity to deal with, it’s a wonderful example for me. Since I’m mostly interested in the human potential angle, though, that probably does seem incredibly “faith campy” to some, but to me it’s the key to this whole thing. Anyway, drinking Mountain Dew here, not Kool-Aid, so think I’m okay for the time being. Guess the travelers may have data forthcoming… Ditto nbakay’s comment.
Oops, that should read, “…thinking with ouR hearts rather than our heads.”
Tonia, I do Xcode development (that’s iPhone stuff, among other things). There is no “regular” Itunes store update. When a developer creates an iPhone app, part of the process of approval, etc, is that the developer sets the date it will release in the app store. The entire process is automated. The app will become available in the store on the date the developer chooses it to become available. What you are hearing from the “team” is an excuse, not a reason. The problem likely is, if they even have an iPhone app completed, that Apple is balking at approving the app. If you think about the purpose of Caleb’s app, you can understand why they would balk at it. Beyond all of that, though, is the absurdity of this. Android devices have 75 percent of the mobile market, iOS devices 17.3 percent and Windows Phone, 3.2 percent. It makes no sense to release such an allegedly world changing technology first on a phone that only a tiny percentage of the population might own. Apparently, Caleb is releasing it on the Windows phone first because it is the only platform he knows how to write for. Which makes sense, since all of his experience in the software development world appears to have been specializing in Microsoft Customer Relations Management (CRM) development. Caleb is not being transparent.
It doesn’t really matter to me John…I don’t understand everything that is going on there and perhaps they aren’t telling everything and perhaps they have their reasons for that. I’ve said it before….there is a lot that the ptw could and are possibly doing to try and prevent this from happening. The bottom line is it’s purely speculation and you are intent on smearing them. It’s been a smear campaign for you since you started sharing and again my question is why are you here spending all of your energy and time tearing them down? If you don’t believe in them, great! THAT IS YOUR RIGHT but what are you accomplishing? I’ve made up my mind John…I know who I am…I understand how energy works and I know first hand nothing good can come from maintaining a negative outlook on life. I also understand that fear comes directly from the EGO…not the HEART. It’s my intent to empower people and to let them know that they are not alone and that they are stronger than they give themselves credit for and can do amazing things when they turn away from the EGO and most of all that they are genuinely loved and that together we can move mountains!!!! I’m also intent on not allowing this blog to be taken over by negativity which is what feeds the ptw..it’s exactly how they’ve managed to entrap us to begin with and like it or not THERE IS A VERY REAL BATTLE GOING ON HERE AND WE ALL NEED TO ENGAGE AND UNDERSTAND HOW THEY MANIPULATE US AND HOLD US IN FEAR SO THAT WE BECOME PARALYZED AND DO NOTHING unless ofcourse you would just prefer to let them wipe us out John which they are intent on doing. I CHOOSE TO FIGHT!! I CHOOSE TO NOT CONSENT TO WHAT THEY HAVE AND ARE STILL ATTEMPTING TO DO…IT’S SO MUCH BIGGER THAN JUST THIS BLOG AND WHAT HEATHER AND THE GROUND CREW ARE ENGAGED IN DOING FOR ALL OF HUMANITY. They are not the only ones working for the betterment of us all and I AS I HAVE ALREADY SAID I AM INTENT ON DOING MY PART rather than just sitting back letting someone yack me into depression so I give up all together. NOT GONNA HAPPEN! Love & Light!!!
Doesn’t it strike you as odd that Caleb has to have the approval to publish an iPhone app from a corporation that Heather claims she foreclosed on? Why wouldn’t the all powerful Heather simply tell Apple to publish this world changing application?
I LOVE WHAT THE OPPT, /OP, HAS DONE, AND IS STILL DOING, A LOT OF PEOPLE DO AS WELL, IT’S MOVING JUST BEAUTIFUL, IT IS DONE THE BATTLE HAS BEEN WON ALREADY, IT ONLY TOOK A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE BELIEVING IN THE MOVE TO LIBERATE HUMANITY, ALL NEEDED IS A SIMPLE FAITH, JUST PLAIN BLIND FAITH IN KNOWING WE WILL AND HAS COMPLETED THE TASK………..WE THE PEOPLE ARE THANKFUL THANKFUL, we the people are happy we the people are love we the people has won, we are winners we has won, all were successful we the people has won………MUCH LOVE……
I agree with you and stated yesterday “Why does this group even exist anymore?”
Lets give the I-UV exchange and Project 13 and whatever else goes with it some more energy. We already have the space for them. Now lets finish what we started. How will it function? Lets get cooking. Push through. Push through.
Love this Tiffany!! YES…lets get cooking, push through and finish what WE started!! Awesome!!
P13 needs open and honest discussion.or the energy created will be lost. Updates from the ground crew would help to keep things on track. Lets all stand in the light together…
I’m standing with you Wayne!! Love & Light!!
Yes!!!!
Wayne, most of the ‘love and lighters’ on this thread don’t want an open and honest discussion, they only want to hear from people who support the initiative like they do.
agree
I don’t mind open and honest discussion. I do support the progression of the I UV exchange and all that goes with it to come into being. I am not interested in personal attacks on other beings. But if it has to do with the mechanisms, I think honesty and openness can be a key tool. Leave personal beliefs about the people out for now. I think could help us stay on point. Let’s give it a shot, ya’ll.
I’m all for OPEN and HONEST discussion. I’ve been nothing but Open and Honest about myself and why I see the things I see the way I do. I don’t talk out of both sides of my mouth and I don’t attack people who are not present to defend themselves. I believe in the power of love and light and I send it to everyone including John and you Sonya. As I recall prior to me re-engaging Sunday this blog was being over run by the non believers and the believers being run off..seems to me you might be contradicting yourself.
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Contradicting myself how, Tonia?
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June 9, 2024 at 9:34 am
Thanks, Kenrick. I agree, there’s no need to sweat about this, or be anxious, and I’m not. I don’t have any investment in a particular outcome from this initiative, so I’m really not tearing myself apart, but I do appreciate your kind words.
My view is that it is blind faith, not asking questions and not expressing doubts that got us into this mess in the first place. The essence of the term ‘sheeple’ suggests blindly following without engaging in critical thinking. That’s why I consider asking questions and expressing doubts to be neither dark nor fear based, but of the light and vital for a healthy society.
As I’ve said a few times already – if this initiative proves to be genuine and successful, that will make me deliriously happy. If not, I do believe completely that the demise of the cabal will take place at some point, because of the ground swell of awareness and the will for positive change, and because all sorts of people are doing all manner of things in all areas of the world, to that end.
I know I will die one day – obviously,
And that doesn’t scare me, on the contrary. But while I am here embodied in this 3D plane, the suffering I witness does distress me, and if I can do something to alleviate that, or end such widespread suffering, I’ll do what I can.
So questioning and doubting is of the light?..and yet those of us who have already done our internal questioning and have come to this place of understanding and knowing aren’t capable of critical thinking? Is that a judgement on your part? and are you truly for Open and Honest discussion because if so then all contrast would be of the light and there would be no reason for you to label us “The Love & Lighters”. You also state that “I do believe completely that the demise of the cabal will take place at some point, because of the ground swell of awareness and the will for positive change, and because all sorts of people are doing all manner of things in all areas of the world, to that end” What does that mean? What awareness are you talking about? What positive changes have you witnessed? Please share it with us…I would like to know…I would like to hear your take on how the demise of the Cabal is taking place? and how you don’t consider me a part of the WILL FOR POSITIVE change?
Tonia - this is what you said:
“As I recall prior to me re-engaging Sunday this blog was being over run by the non believers and the believers being run off..seems to me you might be contradicting yourself”
I am non the wiser as to how I am supposed to be contradicting myself.
You are non..you mean none the wiser and again not answering direct questions….Just like John. You always reply with some uplifting nice words and then reaffirm every negative thing John says. You are in this together and I agree with Lisi…you are both trolls and You are only here for 1 reason and it is to discredit Heather, Caleb, Randall and the rest of the ground crew as well as breed doubt and discontent How is that for critical thinking??? Let me say that there are other avenues that the followers of the OPPT take to discuss and share information and most of them refuse to come here because of the trolls and you can be assured that they won’t be sharing their information here so everyone will be left to eat the garbage you and John are feeding them and when Heather and crew come through where will that leave them when they decide to run off because of your garbage? Exactly where you want them…destitute and without hope. Happy to say you will not succeed!!! THE CABAL WILL FALL!!!! Love & Light and just to be clear….I do say it and mean it with the purest of heart and intent to send you love and light as it’s the only way to defeat the dark!! To the rest of you…Good Luck..please go in your hearts and use your own discernment…it’s your God given right and ability…don’t be fooled by the fear mongering and negativity,,,,it’s only used to trick you and to harvest your energy. Peace
Yes, I spotted the spelling mistake but had already pressed the button, so it wouldn’t let me correct it.
With respect, Tonia - you are the one who won’t reply to a simple question. I asked how I was supposed to be contradicting myself but you still haven’t told me.
This question is to John
I basically agree with all of your postings You mentioned above that all of Heathers UCC filings have been removed by the PTW because of fraud and that Heather acknowledged this but it doesn’t matter because of universal law?
When did she state this and maybe this is why Caleb took down the onepeople1776.org web page with copies of all the filings. Why did they change the name from OPPT to one people?
If this is true the movement is over and done it was based on the truth of the slavery system and non disclosure to the people of the world thanks for your contribution with the facts, John
Jesse, if I get time I’ll track them down for you. It was when a number of letters were published from the UCC folks telling the trustees that the filings had been removed from the registry. Heather acknowledged that they had been, but said it was too late, she had registered them in “Universal Law,” whatever that is. (I think it must be some new age concept).
Heather took her filings out of the legal realm herself when she filled them with incomprehensible “5D” language that was more about religion than law.
Hey John — Several of your posts have been informative and provided solid back up. For many, many reasons, this “OPPT” cum “OP” cum “I-UV” cum “CVAC” cum “Project XIII” is loosing credibility by the minute.
To paraphrase a certain technology mega-visionary, connecting the dots looking backwards can be difficult, but connecting the dots forward will not work. Everyone who has become interested in OPPT-related things (this includes me) owes it to themselves to now look backwards for the purpose of putting puzzle pieces together.
Participating in a world released from money-related control is an exhilarating notion for sure, but I for one do not want to be excited by the concept of “what will happen” to the point that I don’t see clearly “what is happening”.
John, I haven’t seen that either (about the UCC filings having been removed by the PTW because of fraud). Do you have a link, please? Thanx..
John - we must have posted at the same time. I’ll have a look for them. Thanx.
I don’t see what all the fuzz is about, the “truth seekers” will not get the answers faster then the believers
so hush down children and let it unfold first.
Love & Light
Tonia, people have their own minds and can think clearly for themselves. You are making many accusations about others that you have no idea about. I think both John and Sonya sound intelligent have have valid questions, so do I.
There has been many things that have been said by The One People that have not actualized. Of course any rational person would want to question that. I happen to be very spiritual and heart centered and only want the best for all of humanity, but do not want to be led astray by false promises.
I also think that people will choose for themselves what to believe and John and Sonya are not swaying anyone. I am thankful that there are people out their with a different view and can speak that even through constant accusations and harassment.
http://integratingdarkandlight.com/?cat=20
The universal law of attraction is an essential part of advancement. By concentrating on dissatisfaction with governing systems’ injustices and nefarious activities, the populace is sending forth energy that is prolonging situations they want to end! They need to know that by focusing instead on what they want, they generate the energy that will manifest it. They need to be discerning about information from all sources by asking within, where the truth is known as to whether something is fact or fiction, true or false.
Its sounding more to me that you, Tonia, are in fact the one exercising personal attacks on anyone who does not blindly believe in this. And that you label people as trolls, simply for disagreeing, well that puts it a bit more in perspective. Please refrain arguing on behalf of love and light when you don’t accept what others might feel. This is looking more and more like an argument that each side takes personally instead of an open-minded discussion as to the case that is project XIII and OPPT. Know this, I am not out after you, I am not a troll, I am simply trying to find out whats happening with OPPT and project XIII. Faith proves little more than your credulous expectation. In some cases, faith is just what we need.
I didn’t label the trolls RSTNM….I simply agreed after days of reading the same crap over and over and watching others defend themselves against those same individuals and having to choose to stop talking here because the negativity was too overwhelming (read back to find who I am agreeing with) and it was addressed to two specific individuals, not all…there are many people on here honestly searching for answers and being transparent. I called on two people to answer direct questions which they have not. I don’t intend to continue on in this debate with those seeking to tear down Heather and crew. I am certainly not the only one who has asked and or suggested that perhaps they should go somewhere else and all that has happened is most of the people that do in fact believe and have hope have quietly gone away. I don’t see the justice or balance in that. I disagree with you suggesting that I have a credulous expectation. I have faith, I have hope and I have overcome way too much in my life to accept that from you or anybody for that matter. I know first hand what negativity can do to us…lived it…been there done that and if others can’t appreciate that or find some lesson in it or garner some empowerment from it then so be it. Doesn’t mean that I should stifle myself and my passion when I know the damage it can do and has done on this blog. For me BELIEVING is seeing instead of SEEING is believing. I would rather live in a world of hope than a world of doom and gloom.
Could you tell me what it is that you know about Heather that isn’t based exclusively on claims she has made online?
I actually made phone calls to her hometown, talked to people who knew her personally and discovered that, far from an elite lawyer working in the financial sector, Heather was a personal injury lawyer that fell on hard times because of a bad economy, lost her home and got involved in the UCC Redemption movement.
Why do you chose to exercise a positive attitude toward Heather, who you only know from her own words on the Internet? You choose to believe her because you want to believe what she says is true. You have nothing to base that on, though. Heather has done nothing but talk. Nothing she has said has made a bit of difference in the world. “All launch May” she boldly proclaimed. Project XIII, access to your value, and on and on. Didn’t happen. Yet, you still hold her up as savior. She and her zany group of gurus will return from the desert, having blown through a lot of other folks FRN’s, with…nothing. Nothing will change. But, you will still hold her up as a pion of transparency.
John, first and foremost Heather is not my savior. Nobody but me can do that job and I accept that. Secondly, she is not the only source of information. As I said to Mark I had come across information prior to the OPPT that Heather happened to substantiate for me. She is certainly not the only one talking about “The Event”. Many sources talk about it as well as the New Financial System. Too much going on for there not to be some validity to it. I’m insulted by those that suggest that I am gullible or acting on blind faith because I believe. I didn’t just accept it right out of the gate. I had to take my time and digest it all. Thirdly, Judge Dale seriously educated me on how it all worked (and I’ve said this before in this blog) these tools have been available for use all along for those that knew. The OPPT just made it visible and simplified the process. I knew prior to the OPPT that we were enslaved with our birth certificates and I already knew that our constitution had been usurped I also believe that our government is so corrupt that it’s hard to tell the good guys from the bad guys. I also believe that we are beings made up of energy and light. There are too many claims out there that substantiate it. I also believe that our government has intentionally attempted to block us from accessing our inner knowing. I also believe that they do in fact use programming on us. Hell after an update they say “now back to your regular programming”. Lol. Sad but true. Heather was not the first one to mention the game of duality to me. She did however make sense of it all for me. All told I know not to trust our so called government at any level. I also know that they control our media, sell us propaganda and will do most anything to keep us from the truth. I also know that our government does not have the gold, silver & precious metals. That’s obvious….so where do you suppose it is??? I’m betting Heather is telling the truth. That’s where I stand and I’m sorry but none of the things you have presented here have caused me to feel differently and don’t feel like proof or truth. We all have an inner knowing and mine has guided me well and I can not abandon myself. Thanks for asking John.
All of this adulation is doing nothing but feeding Heather’s huge ego.
Thanks John for the information
It’s unfortunate for all those of us who put faith in the OPPT as the filings with the UCC looked as though the PTW were taken down by their own system now it is time for the one people (ground crew) to step up to the plate and admit it was built around heathers false filings..
We have sent out courtesy notices and flyers all around the world that we believed to be legitimate, and we know now why many people have been laughed out oif banks and financial institutions. This is very sad And my heart and prayers go out to all who have put their faith in this movement. I truly believe betters days are ahead of us and that we keep faith that those in power will be removed for the crimes against humanity. We need each other more than ever!
Thank you for this blog for allowing me to state my feelings and opinions love to all
Hi Jesse, Did you find a link to the letters from the UCC to Heather/OPPT? I’ve been looking but still haven’t located them.
Thanx.
Here’s a link to a document about fraudulent UCC filings. Please note that I’m not saying that the trustees acted fraudulently, but what it does show is that, unsurprisingly, the PTW have a built in self-protection mechanism for dealing with filings they deem to be fraudulent’. (Note: The link takes you directly to the document download, not to a website).
http://www.nass.org/%20index.php?option=com_docman &task=doc_download &gid=1329 &Itemid=.
Jessy scusa ma ciò che hai pubblicato non c’entra nulla, lo volete capire “TUTTI” che ciò che è accaduto è accaduto in perfetta legalità interna ai meccanismi dell’UCC? Dalla loro fondazione l’OPPT ha usato l’iter burocratico legislativo dell’UCC , non so come spiegarlo in parole comprensibili a tutti ma ci voglio provare, ciò che hanno fatto lo potevano fare solo a stadi di avanzamento e non presentando tutto il malloppo in una volta sola, la prima documentazione presentata viene vagliata e convalidata, e così tutta la documentazione a seguire, già dai primi passi tutto il sistema sapeva cosa avevano intenzione di fare i trusters cercando di fermarli e rallentarli in ogni modo, cercando ogni cavillo immaginabile e possibile, il nass è parte integrante del sistema di formazione del’OPPT , se girate tutto il sito e i file a disposizione allora avrete un quadro completo di tutto il meccanismo usato dai trusters, che è pienamente legale, altrimenti non esisterebbe da diversi anni ormai, ma presentato e costituito di recente .
And yet all the ones who think the ones in Morocco are full of it are STILL using their website!!! Still hangin around ‘just in case’ hey guys? lmao. typical. people think they KNOW MORE than others. but when this all works out for the people in the end, those same naysayers will be bragging to their friends…’ya, i was involved in this hey…since the BEGINNING i faithfully waited’. AND WHO CARES ABOUT THESE STUPID UCC FILINGS ALREADY. Of COURSE they will have reports that it’s fake, not filed properly etc etc etc. I think I trust what Heather says, since she DID have experience in UCC law, over some random report on the internet. Bet all you disbelivers will be tuning into the show too hey!?! lol. ya…
Love that!!!! Hey!!!! Reminds me of Duck Dynasty and I love those boys. They are even revealing truths. Absolute data If you will about prime time networks. If not…still very much enjoyed your post.
Hey Cris, excuse the “mechanical” translation, but here’s wut I got from u’r post:
“Jessy sorry but what you posted has nothing to do, you realize “ALL” that what happened happened in perfect internal mechanisms of legality UCC? From their founding the OPPT used the bureaucratic legislative procedure of the CCO, I don’t know how to explain it in words understandable to anyone but we want to try what they did I could do just to advance stages and not presenting all the cash at once, the first documentation submitted is assessed and validated, and so all documentation to follow, since the first steps the system knew what they were going to do the trusters trying to stop them and slow them down Anyways, trying every conceivable and possible quibble, the nass is an integral part of the education system ‘ if OPPT turn the entire site and files available then you will have a complete picture of all the mechanism used by trusters, which is perfectly legal, otherwise it would not exist for several years now, but presented and formed recently.”
Again, sorry Cris, if this isn’t right on point…
Nice job Lisi.
Check this out guys:
New “Surveillance-Proof” App To Secure Communications Has Governments Nervous
2013 06 09
From: slate.com
http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=25535
i had a look this morning lisi, its great, better ad than project 13 lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yJpCW3DOmiY
Sweet! Well done those guys..
the Uniform Commercial Codes were designed as private laws then applied to all 50 states of the United States as well as the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, Guam and the US Virgin Islands. As all nations and states are registered in the state of Delaware through the SEC system of 1933, UCC applies to all nations and their “employees” when treated as corporations and registered commercial “vessels”.
There is some deliberate ambiguity concerning registration of foreign entities such as nations and states with the State of Delaware through the updated definition of “registered organizations” under Article 9 stating registered organizations includes “corporations, limited liability companies and limited partnerships”.
For registration and notice of debts within the domestic United States or territories, the state of the debtor is the state in which a filing must occur. However, when dealing with a non-United States location, the filing must be through either the State of Delaware when the nation or state is registered or the District of Columbia which is the second point of registration for “non registered organizations”.
The reason this system was introduced and its purpose is to provide the legal mechanism for the International Monetary Fund (IMF) as a collector and manager of debts and repayments owed by various nations registered as corporations through the State of Delaware. These conditions were established as part of the bankruptcy administration of countries since 1933 and subsequently updated for the benefit of all nations, states and private/public registered corporations to ensure significant debts are paid.
As a result, should a legitimate debt be owed by any nation or state/province in the world, the UCC system may be utilized as a means of giving notice within the global banking/legal/corporate system of a valid debt being owed.
In all cases, the existence of a valid debt being registered through a UCC filing is a prerequisite before pursuing additional remedy of the global banking/legal/corporate system such as a ruling from the International Court of Justice (ICJ) at the Hague which can then be collected through the Bank for International Settlements (BIS).
I’ve tried to refrain from posting here at risk of being attacked and called a ‘non-believer’ or a ‘troll’ or worse yet a paid shill. But really if you choose to see me as an ‘enemy’ because I’m one of them, aka have questions you don’t..that is your choice. Really, I’m glad I’ve seen the exchange here because it’s made me recognize how far we are away from true unity, even now those who are awakening will attack anyone who doesn’t subscribe to what they believe to be true and scream ‘negative’, ‘dark’ at those who dare to stand up for what they believe. Then have the audacity to act spiritually superior and positive.
I’ve seen this before, alot of you would make great Jehovah’s Witnesses, just saying. You are all right and anyone who disagrees is to be shunned and should leave. How far we have come. Same old, same old. I bow to no one and I will ask whatever questions I want and I will not run hiding in a corner because you are afraid of what I might have to say. I respect your right to disagree, but I only wish the sentiment was returned with equal value. It is not.
Lol, its difficult for me to narrow down whether stereotyping or complaining has taken over as the new American pastime, but seriously, some people ignore that sort of stuff and pull out the want/needs that remain in the data set of comments to establish marketable ideas just the same. Who ever said governments are necessary for money, anyway ? You see? When you all seriously quit the old regardless of a replacement system the old will fail and collapse. So now tell me that’s what you demonstrate you actually want…. You see? Every last one of you actually wants the old system to continue because you live in fear of yourself in the unknown rather than having any faith in your own collective species to save you. Yes, I do actually live on the street, in case you were wondering, lol. So am I free while you are “homed” or am I homeless and you are owned? Lol. Think about it awhile then go back to your bickering, please, because its practically the only thing that distracts you from the truth enough to keep you all from marching together in the streets with your militias that are afraid of you.
Higgs.
Mark was so “right on” from his earlier post: …
“A general comment to anyone and no-one:
We are all so obviously a result of our experiences in life. More so than what we hear, see or read, our actual experiences provide the true position from which we project our thoughts, beliefs and actions. Some have survived utter disrespect to mind and body, had trust shattered and all manner of harsh and cruel acts perpetrated against them and I so highly commend any of those people coming through that not only surviving but also thriving in goodness from it. Some have had no more than a severe wood splinter or paper cut to deal with in their lives against the grand scheme of things. Either way, each persons conduct is a result of those experiences.
When you look at the division of this forum from the accepting faith camp to the reserved and questioning camp, it’s not hard to see who may have suffered more than others, generally speaking.”
I might add only that adversity seems to garner wisdom. Thanks to everyone here for all of their FACTUAL contributions! Sunshine, Butterflies & Rainbows! (Pls. no snarky feedback on that - it wuz one of my favorite songs ever!)… Best to all!
Myself and several others are in the design phase of a workable solution rather than caring about apparent credibility of others based on old paradigm judgmental values. We could use somebody like heather on our team who could write up a simple legal promiissary note in the old paradigm style. Feel free to drop me an e-mail if interested. AK and D already know they cannot participate and the reasons why, however we still love them as we love all, so when they can both finally use real names and get back to what they originally intended months ago if they would like to carry the story of where the real wave went after they fell off it would certainly be fine of course. The race is on to fulfill htj’s dream and this old boy always says what he means, and does what he says, so beating the NSA to the punch now is the name of the game and challenges always excite me.
who are your team please and what are you DOing with such documents?
I am very interested to move beyond the present impasse.
Desktop author is a commercially available software I have used for a number of years to develop DRM packs (tight control of digital content can not be harvested in the usual sense) the team are able I am sure to help develop a system for dialogue where a common sense can be determined by the fast evolution of great orators who speak the common language and a CLEAR CONSENSUS is evolved through DIALOGUE. WE ALL NEED TO HAVE transparent yet private input to ANY GROUP DECISION PROCESS.
So I offer a tool that has potential (I believe) to facilitate this process.We call it “PEOPLES CHOICE” and it simply allows a constant referendum process..
Out of due respect to this forum, continuous discussion on this topic specifically, is out of scope to the intention of this thread/discussion. Therefore, please contact me via e-mail directly if interested; thank you in advance. Sine.metu.ri at gmail dot com.
Oops, make that, “Sunshine, LOLLIPOPS & Rainbows.” (Butterflies are WONDERFUL too though!)
Sine Metu - WOW, I’m no techi, but u’r posts are right out of Kurt Vonnegut! Great sense of humor, luv u’r stuff! Thx for all u’r posts!
Careful Lisi, there are several out there that are certain I am a whole list of things from three letter alphabets to full fledged illuminati and even that I believe in satan or like guns, but fortunately for me the state of California considers me mentally ill, so somehow that makes it all okay to be a member of practically anything except reality to which I am totally estranged so yes I Lubbs you too even though we just virtually met but I will be the first to let you know that judging people by whom they associate is rather moot since even cops associate with criminals or perhaps you have a better example in mind, you know?
“As a result, should a legitimate debt be owed by any nation or state/province in the world, the UCC system may be utilized as a means of giving notice within the global banking/legal/corporate system of a valid debt being owed.
In all cases, the existence of a valid debt being registered through a UCC filing is a prerequisite before pursuing additional remedy of the global banking/legal/corporate system such as a ruling from the International Court of Justice (ICJ) at the Hague which can then be collected through the Bank for International Settlements (BIS).”
Two points. As stated above, a Ucc filing is a “notice.” It is not a lien, which is what you would need to foreclose. Heather, in responce to, I believe Drake, who said that her filings were invalid because there was no debtor, and you could not have a lein without a debtor, stated that her filings were not a lein.
Secondly, the U.S. has never been a member nation of the World Court at The Hague, declaring that to recognize its decisions would be a violation of US sovernity.
Why is this important if 75% of the world decides to back the foreclosure then its what the population cares to back that matters. She could have written it all on the back of a milk carton for all I care, but if you choose to keep hanging on and supporting a system of any criminal design then hey! More power to you and remember the French Revolution and these words when your world starts spinning around and for some reason trying to move your arms feels somehow like somebody left them behind for you, you know?
Yes, it is all a matter of letting go and taking that step into the ‘seemingly dark’, unknown abyss ….. and the path will magically appear before your feet
All the ‘bickering’ and the ‘what if this, what if that?’ and the criticism of others and their DOing and BEing …. or apparent not DOing and BEing (an impossibility, by the way) …. whether a person feels the criticism is warranted or not …… it is all completely irrelevant.
Make a choice - freedom from the illusion of man-mind-manifested slavery, or remain within the illusion …….. pretty straightforward really.
Scary letting go … yes, it can be …….. but once you do, you will wonder why you didn’t let go when it first came to you. Your world will change before your very eyes …… perception, intent and equilibrium = key words
♥ group hug ♥ G ♥
Oh my gawd ma, does that meaning I must make a decision again or not decide to not make a choice between two possibilities that both do not exist since the future only is not ever here and now is only not the past which only can not change never no how neither or not? Or does it mean you already do know that now is always eternally certainly present and continuously changing for those that do choose to only be as they may and are always eternally happy to greet the current place they exist with appreciation as they stand there experiencing it with what to some appears as patience and waiting but to them is an ever connected realization of the living conscious universe that allows them the moment and each breath of life to enjoy? Wow sure wish I had an extra clue but the one I borrowed was leant to other people since I was busy or something I guess maybe kind of sort of possibly a little perhaps probably I think …. Or not. Lol love you Ri guard less you know.
Hahahahaha ……….. your travels have failed to dampened your repartee, Sine …….. in response I quote thee thy words of knowing ….. sans interrogation point ……..
………. ” already do know that now is always eternally certainly present and continuously changing for those that do choose to only be as they may and are always eternally happy to greet the current place they exist with appreciation as they stand there experiencing it with what to some appears as patience and waiting but to them is an ever connected realization of the living conscious universe that allows them the moment and each breath of life to enjoy.” Sine Metu
Many people are coming here to awaken those following a false claim. we are not here to waste energy but to give energy to assist. There is nothing like 75% of the world backing any sort of foreclosure and certainly nothing like that who even know about OPPT TOP or what ever you want to call it. This is a time to get real then the real renaissance can occur. There are many people who have been working for years and making a difference on all sorts of sides of the worlds issues. In order to make any sort of difference you need to be standing in truth not illusion and the real work is on yourselves. Many people who know that OPPT is a total lie in every way and everything that Heather has said right from the beginning, even how she got involved has not been said as it really was - BUT they are themselves involved with assisting the changes that are occuring. The real changes going on have nothing at all to do with OPPT. they only have something to do with oppt in the minds of those who knew nothing before OPPT appeared so in their ignorance they believe that OPPT was the start of it. Also ask the OPPT to be in truth and tell how much money - that you are not supposed to need you know how heather has said that money is not important and how she manifests everything - they have received in donations in hard cash - Dee, Brian, lisa, Bob BZ all involved in large donations some of them over a course of months also AK.
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Correction, it was strout she was responding to. It was also in this letter that she wrote:
“Attached to this email are the screen shots from March 3, 2013, from the international Branch of the Commercial Registry, WA DC, and they are still there. (https://gov.propertyinfo.com/DC-Washington/# ). However, if you search the WA State branch of the Commercial Registry ( https://fortress.wa.gov/dol/ucc/ ), and search by file/receipt number you will see that they are no longer there, and the attached letter to this email is the purported basis why they were “removed”/”cancelled”…I only included one of the letters, but all the same.”
The have since been removed the WA DC registry as well.
Link to original blog post:
http://americankabuki.blogspot.com/2013/03/oppt-to-all-people-of-planet.html
John, many thanks for that. I had searched and just not been able to find them.
Linda, your comments remind me of someone that first goes into the donut shop for the cheapest cup of coffee, then next door to buy a bagle, then finally walks into the restaurant while the maitre dee’s back is turned, sits down on the terrace to strike up a conversation among the smokers there about how the chef and the waitress staff of the place are all serving poison, which leads me to the obvious set of following remarks…
If you really feel you have some sort of data that can be referenced and corroborated with specificity and particularity such that your enormous conscience and good will for mankind deserves you to wake people up and save them then why are you posing yourself as a distractor, name caller, and general dissonant rather than creating your own web site filled with all the above mentioned data and conclusions where you would be the proponent saving grace of a voice and being helpful to “your” cause?
Since my statement regardng 75% seems to have gone over your head purposely or otherwise, and since you decided to consider it as a literal fact rather than a notion describing the reality of popular opinion always trumping anything written, especially in any immediate environment, my curiosity is then raised since that sort of error appears to be naturally below the intelligence level of the rest of your comments here. Are you seriously asking me to believe then that you can actually wake anyone else up when the majority of your remarks indicate that you, yourself, have yet to comprehend even the simplest notion that the govt is a corporation, that we have endured martial law since 1861, that our education system is funded and the curriculum controlled by the same long list of sociopathic warring liars and their propagandists that have purposely misconstrued history since the invention of bread and the circus?
Because you are also blatantly adhering to, and in support of the old powers that were, their illusions of commerce, and even their perversions Linda, your comments remind me of someone that first goes into the donut shop for the cheapest cup of coffee, then next door to buy a bagle, then finally walks into the restaurant while the maitre dee’s back is turned, sits down on the terrace to strike up a conversation among the smokers there about how the chef and the waitress staff of the place are all serving poison, which leads me to the obvious set of following remarks…
If you really feel you have some sort of data that can be referenced and corroborated with specificity and particularity such that your enormous conscience and good will for mankind deserves you to wake people up and save them then why are you posing yourself as a distractor, name caller, and general dissonant rather than creating your own web site filled with all the above mentioned data and conclusions where you would be the proponent saving grace of a voice and being helpful to “your” cause?
Since my statement regardng 75% seems to have gone over your head purposely or otherwise, and since you decided to consider it as a literal fact rather than a notion describing the reality of popular opinion always trumping anything written, especially in any immediate environment, my curiosity is then raised since that sort of error appears to be naturally below the intelligence level of the rest of your comments here. Are you seriously asking me to believe then that you can actually wake anyone else up when the majority of your remarks indicate that you, yourself, have yet to comprehend even the simplest
of “Law”, would you mind letting us all know by whom you are being paid even if you seriously believe your employer is completely askew to the topic or otherwise engaged only in business isolated from the topic, your transparency would be appreciated here among people who have applauded the one lady who “legally” foreclosed the same old octopus as Andrew Jackson behead, but this time using their own poison that was intended to be too compleximicated for even the average corrupt attorney to comprehend were he ever even inclined to shoot off his own foot.
Are you yet aware that OPPT was a nexus point re-establishment of the very same abandoned trust responsible for the failed republic many people refer to today as the USA? Therefore, if OPPT is a lie as you claim then so is the USA… failed or otherwise, its an apparent fact that the USA did exist as a republic almost 100 years.
I certainly hope you take these comments and suggestions as a courtesy to you, personally from me since it always disturbs me watching “system programmed” people such as yourself go through the “five stages of death” when their subconscious mind is presented with true factual data that threatens all of the work they have done constructing imaginary futures in their mind: “denial, anger, bargaining, depression…”.
In closing… Remember that fiscal cliff they started to build in earnest after Nixon removed the gold standard by decree? Did that due date come and go or do you see how propaganda really works? Bet YOU thought they meant we were on top of it approaching the edge to fall, right? LOL, so how long will it take for you and the rest that fell for that literary twist to realize we are near the edge, yes, and staring straight up at what we could have achieved had we been a little more trusting in our local communities and neighbors rather than allowing fancy split tongued money changers to represent us?
Huggs.
Simple truths here, I dont join fisherman wives type rants! My truth network was set up over 3 yrs ago. I pay for this from my own earnings and pension from my own value - I am 65 I havent worked for anyone else and have accessed my own value for 40 years.
The site info is posted by the members including myself and is certainly full of OPPT!
my radio show here has had Winston Shrout seen as the founding father of the sovereign / freeman movement on the show so that people realise how wacky the idea of foreclosing by UCC documents is. I also had the pleasure of having Charlie miller and his group talking on the show. I have interviewed Lisa Harrison 3 times. I have been part of the movement of educating ourselves on our the system really works for 10 years now and have real experiences of same.. I have been a 1to1 coach on levels of awareness and consciousness for over 30 years as well as workshop facilitator. I am also the author of two books on what is really happening on this planet and beyond. Your appraisel of me is sadly lacking. I am on my mission assisting those who need to come into reality. I had no need to give you all of this info right off since those who are using their intuition and sensing abilities will have realise I write from experience not malice. There have been many scams recently on the internet but this is one that has the possibility of hurting so many vulnerable people and already has. Namaste.
Kk, simple truths here as well..
I would rather sleep on a cold hard sidewalk with myself than continue to support the corrupt system in place in any way whatsoever trying to sleep at night knowing I was a hypocrite.
The UCC is corrupt in the first place so yes, a milk carton would have gotten my equal support as the means of foreclosure in reality is moot to people that REAL eyes that light from the sun that bounces off of little squiggly lines on a piece of paper can only change the minds of robotically programmed defenseless people that believe that little symbols on green folded cloth have some sort of edible or other value such as burning or cleaning one’s posterior after healthy defecation.
I applaud all of your efforts for whatever agenda you are supporting but then with all of that superior pedigree of activism under your belt, if it were truly of any value to even your own opinion, then why would you find it necessary to villainize, discredit, or otherwise set yourself into the contrary commentator seat on somebody else’s equally self funded media outlet?
Regarding the 75% remarks, it appears you miscomprehended my notion that I will personally defend the original constitution of the republic of states against 8+ billion enemies if necessary even if only ten or less remained to assist in those endeavors, and the restoration of the republic has already been declared while you were sleeping thinking others need to be awakened, it bears my signature along with others, and 75% always starts SOMEplace so where is your signature and what side are you on ( if that is too personal, then sure, I will comprehend your failure to answer since it could feel rather treasonous, depending on what sort of sleep one gets at night )?
Hope this helps to clarify how the comments about coffee were both serious and humorous simultaneously above and if you’d like to share a cup with me sometime then just leave one half warm on the top of a newspaper dispenser before you get on the bus like everyone else with so tight a schedule that they are forced to leave me my half behind… Lol, slaves such as they are.
Huggs.
I spent last nite fighting viruses. I know who you are and I don’t care. You’ll soon be as impotent as your reptilian master. Hang in everybody, it’s all over but the celebrating.
Yeah buddy. That’s what I’m talking about!!!!
refs?
Anytime anyone puts things in quotes, pls. note - how would u expect anyone to believe wut u’r saying with no refs????? Refs, pls.
” Who says anyone needs govt for money anyways? All they really do is impede the flow of commerce and charity in practically every thing they do. ” — Sine Metu
Just an example to proves I still Lubbs you even after all this time.
To those who have some question please listen to blogtalkradio show tonight, according to D of RTS she is ready to ROCK!!!
TRUTH, LOVE & LIGHT WILL SET US FREE…
GOD BLESS…US ALL HIS CREATION.
We learned that the gurus went to the desert and brought about the Finale. That Project XIII may launch July 1. And that we will be able to register contracts between each other on a spreadsheet on the Internet. Mark, who seemed kind of confused, is trying to pin Heather down and get some of this operating in the real world, but is not having much success. He seemed a little frustrated that he couldn’t tell us how we are going to actually use the value of our eternal essence to buy food and pay rent.
I have watched what IS manifesting in the NOW on this blog. My Question is this. Are You Free or Not Free. The ones who know or at lease believe they are Free are not attached to anything or promises and took RESPONSIBILITY for whatever they BElieved In . Those who are not Free are attached to the promises and is expressing Doubts Blame Guilt Lack Limitation and Fear and all that goes with ego. Which ONE are You? Love&Light
How have you determined that my Doing and Being is of less value than your Doing and Being? You actually are attached (very attached) to a particular world view. So much so that you devalue my Doing and Being. What’s with that?
You are no more an objective observer than I am. You are trying to make everything fit your world view.
I agree with you Kendrick…it’s all a matter of perception. I listened to the show and loved all of it, but again I believe in energy..I believe in energy work, love and the power of setting intent. The people on the show were exhausted…each and everyone of them but pushed through to share the information. I also loved that they had the channel for Bashar on the show. Really enjoy him!! What John left out is that Mark said that everyone has $5 billion unless we’ve been damaged by the ptw and we would have an additional $5 billion which I’m guessing most of us have been so I’m thinking it will be $10 billion based on that comment and Heather already saying $10 billion. Mark said that Heather has been in the process of teaching him how she sees things and how she would like to see things work as we go forward. John is more focused on what he calls Heather’s Huge Ego to pay any mind to his own. That’s okay…we’ve all been stuck in a rut during our own healing and growing process. Expansion can be painful!! Love & Light!!
And yet, Caleb can’t manage to set up a payment portal for his Project XIII. Don’t you see a disconnect here?
Mark said specifically that the value, whatever amount it is, is not in “gold” or precious metals, but in eternal essence, and he could not understand how that would be converted into some kind of medium of exchange. Clearly, any kind of “value exchange” has not even been really conceptualized yet and will be a long time off, at best. Folks need remedy now.
I’m not sure there is anyway to comprehend why, if Heather plans to release all of this “value” anyway, as she asserts, she is waiting for the creation of some kind of 3D technology to distribute it. These are people that claimed that while in the desert they opened the Eternal Essence portal! Why are these trivial 3D problems preventing them from acting?
P13 latest update as of 12/6/13
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thecollectiveimagination/2013/06/12/the-collective-imagination
Bullet points for those who don’t want to listen to the whole show:
Caleb has had trouble setting up payment portals.
Because of that, the first month or two will be free.
A Windows Phone app should launch over the next week or so.
The Iphone App, and PC versions should launch July 1.
AK notes that, after their stay in the desert, their DNA is changing.
“I find this interesting timing since we opened the Eternal Essence portal in the Sahara this past weekend and collapsed the old “souls for gold” energy that got anchored there so many hundreds of years ago during the slave trade in North Africa.
We also did a group healing on Bob Wright who couldn’t walk after the Illuminati attacked him in 2008. The next day Bob walked 20 meters (video will be forthcoming when I arrive home in the USA). He continues to improve and his nerves are now reattached to his muscles. He’s got some weeks ahead of strengthening his muscles but he will be moving about in no time at all. Nothing like seeing a 6’4″ tall man cry for joy!
We didn’t specifically do a healing on me, but my MRSA scars from 2008 are also healing suddenly. We are also noticing some bodily changes in all of us including eye color changes. We don’t quite know what this means but it appears to be a DNA change that is ongoing. -AK”
One can only what what it is they are evolving into? What kind of forces possessed them in the desert? Opening portals into the unknown is risky business.
I appreciate the updates re the radio show, John, thanks.
Hard to pick out the nuggets. The first half of the show wasn’t related to the desert trip. A discussion on channeling and ufos.
There will be a big crash for them all when they get back home and out of the group hynotic energy. In order to hold any higher energy when you meet others from your soul grouping you have to have done the inner work and none of them have. it wont be long…. you will begin to hear them talking more normally. They were also mutating and corrupting the possible higher energies if they are from the same soul group by drinking, smoking and hyping up on caffeine as the hysteria showed so no real work will come out of this. ask other seasoned spiritual teachers they will tell you the same.
There will be an even bigger crash for some of the followers if/when this thing doesn’t pan out as promised.
So I just got out of a meeting with our current payroll company in which this representative referred to our employees as “Human Capital”. I couldn’t believe it…she said yeah that’s the new “Buzz” word. Ofcourse I said really? Our human resources manager said sounds like cattle and I said or sheeple?? The representative continued to say well I play stupid with some things or they would drive me crazy and I said you can’t afford to play stupid with this because you too are an employee or as you say “Human Capital”. She was a great sport about it…laughed it off and made a note to herself to no longer refer to us as “Human Capital”. I am however certain she will take this experience with her and give it more thought.
Interesting.
https://i-uv.com/project-xiii-update-from-mark-hozas-perspective/
Mark is clearly frustrated.
“Vision without execution is hallucination.” Thomas Edison
Spyware on every site I monitor. Wonder why.
Extreme alerts encountered when replying to certain comments. Again wonder why. Sine Metu, any thoughts on this. Was sent a warning to stay off net completely on June 21. Any one here not worried?
Wow Ken…I am curious as to what that could mean. Perhaps it will be the financial reset? I don’t know, but please post any additional information you get I would like to know more too.
I have basically stopped using internet explorer all together. It would seem they do not like me coming to this site and other related sights. I’ve gone to using firefox and haven’t had any trouble since.
Ken, I read that a couple of days ago - as far as I recall, allegedly someone has leaked this info and it’s something to do with the PTW allegedly intending to send out a virus or something to fry our computers to reduce the internet capacity of the Western world. As always, make of it what you will!
Ken, there’s a pretty scary read that mentions June 21st on Veteran’s Today if you would like to take a look. I didn’t post the link as it’s pretty heavy, but I know that I personally will be focusing as much positive energy and love on this day as possible!!
…seriously… It’s more likely that poor service on the Internet is just the same old case of hiring insufficient numbers of barely adequately trained people to do far more work than necessary solving as few problems as possible while generating endless numbers of forms to spread around an over compleximicated bureaucracy providing as little service and support as possible to as large an ISP district as legally allowed for as much promised clean bandwidth they can convince you they provide with as little actually being available for as low a cost as they can lease their lines and satellites for as much as they can charge you while all during the entire scenario using every advertising trick in the book to keep you entertained enough such that the sexy redhead you think you are speaking to across the country is actually some fat bald guy that lives right next door, but if you want to feel that you or anyone else or even any topic is important enough to warrant anyone with any actual control over such a mess to seriously care about you and/or the topic, then that’s exactly the sort of entertainment value that the bread and the circus is about, so if that is the case for you or anyone else that reads this then please rest assured that you are simply too well predictably behaved for any sort of meany head NSA or other evil poopy head hackers to consider you a target worthwhile of their awesome elite tactical keyboard wizardry, either with only one finger or otherwise, so huggs now, tuck yourself in all warm and cozy with a hot tea and some cookies, please, because the mighty military industrial complex can still protect you from four patsies with box cutters as well as they have always been able to do, kk?
…. Now back to our previously scheduled conspiracy drama now that we all know that everything is still the same as usual…
Sine Metu I have no reason to even search for the last message you replied to my post with or to continue putting energy into attempting to throw light on what is actually going on here. Many have come here over the past weeks to do same but it will play its self out in all good time. When you get your $10 billion in value from any of The One People’s platforms come on the show and talk to us about it! Although it appears you just like to keep writing more and more words and answer everyones posts in the same analytical, inane way of a troll who has no other place to put their energy. Namaste
Linda! Oh my gawd! Your flattery overwhelms me! Thank you so much for caring but I had to give up that spot under the bridge well over a month ago to some guy that snored real loud and had a mean dog, so my caste got lowered a bit that day, but its been mostly dry here since so the overhead is unnecessary anyway, but on the other hand though, I might try the troll scene again in the future if the opportunity presents itself.
Also good to see you are still replying to my messages even without reading them because that’s obviously how you found out so much about 0PT and more than likely how you gleaned so much great information from HTJ without any due diligence at all. If you would like a job and I get another bridge spot in the near future, would you like to do look-out work? Pays free coffee in the morning five days per week and only need 4 hours per night. Let me know, please, kk? Kewlies.
Thanks for pointing out how consistent I am, but seriously, rather than a skill, its only as easy as just telling the truth all the time, even habitually so, because truth is always consistent, you know?
About that “money” or value thing you mentioned though, lol, are you kidding me? I am already so way novadigm that feeding a competitor is like, you know, breaking up some dry bread to the size the pigeons can actually fit into their mouths, but you can forget about getting me to feed your master anymore, lol, but thanks though, you probably meant that as a compliment, right?
P.s. your spell check is borkned because insane was missing an s. just letting you know
Will gave us a great platform software to check out called SILENT CIRCLE it is already developed and proven to a pioneer in confidential communications for all platforms Maybe someone can let Caleb know that his idea is not new and maybe if the Gurus from the desert could start accessing our value sooner? Mark seems to be quite confused about heathers idea about accessing our value. I hear that prosperity programs are almost ready to be introduced to the world. Maybe another hopeful rumor I certainly don’t need 10 billion that heather has declared everyone will start out with New portals healing Ufo’s DNA changing energetically all in one week from the Sahara desert..as George Carlin always said its all BS folks that’s all it is
If you have an iPhone, Wickr is considered the best.
and she only woke up herself 18 months ago!!!!!!! I am beginning to think that she actually needs real help on mental health issues and Im someone who has channelled higher beings for 20 years but she is so off the mark with everything she is saying that it is very worrying now. The most worrying thing is that people are believing her but only those who didnt know anything before hearing about OPPT. She is using pieces of other peoples knowledge in a very unskilled way and will never be able to come up with she says she can!!!!
Linda, I appreciate your concern. But I personally am not basing anything on Heather or any of the rest of them. People’s personal issues and history are not my concern. It has nothing to do with what I want to happen moving forward. The thing I can say is that I feel much better after hearing Heather and the crew speak than I do when I hear fear based accusations. Can you give any constructive information that does not involve criticizing and dragging people’s past alleged doings into it? When the situation works out in our favor then great. Otherwise, we are all in the same crap boat trying to get out together. Thank you in advance for any absolute data that you have to offer.
Well said Tiffany. I’d like to see absolute data too and for someone to tell me why all of this stuff is going on in the world with false flags, whistle blowers, the stock market, the Vatican, Turkey etc etc if there is no credence to what she’s saying.
There is complete credence to the info on the completely hoaxed money system that is in our world today, heather learnt that from charles miller and others when she got into money difficulties, nobody is saying any of that isnt true. Many of us have known that years, charles miller for 25 yrs thats how he ended up in prison when he was working on this stuff. What is hoax is that Heather has actually done anything at all, ask any of the great people who walked this path years before her. the thing she has done is run a marketing campaign which lisa quickly agreed to join when her other financial pay-out plan that she was involved with didnt suit her anymore and the huge hype she ran on 21st Dec by doing a countdown didnt come to anything. Heather picked certain blog sites, like AK and Brians to put messages on and people ran with it, without researching or checking the validity of the filings. Do your own research UCC only covers the US and filings do not foreclose on anything. Heather did tell people that there would be actual money to buy your bread and petrol, go back and listen to the shows! and then she tells you, you dont need it!
Sorry…I don’t believe that to be accurate information. I also believe that it’s a matter of opinion of “yours” and doesn’t provide the “absolute data” that we were asking for. As far as it being a “marketing campaign”…for what? For us all to join together as one and do something about the mess our world is in? I’ve said this many times…Judge Dale makes the case for me and yet none of you will even speak to Judge Dale and what he shares with all of us. Is he on a “marketing campaign” as well? NO…this will not suffice to provide proof!! As far as you stating that the UCC only covers the US..well that has already been rebutted on this blog if you do a little reading of your own not to mention that people in Australia are proving it’s working. Why is a law firm in Australia representing a bank broker who uncovered the truth? Why is a law firm in Germany taking it on the road to educate people? I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Thanks for sharing Linda
Ok, Linda, I like to change my mind often enough to at least convince myself I can still learn so now that you have convinced me for at least five minutes or so that you can both “channel” other beings as well as read HTJ’s mind retrospectively enough to display your words such that they resemble that one jealous upstaging lady that practically convinced me that allowing people to ask ad hoc questions live without preparation on a “radio show” that misconstrued the name of a band from the sixties with string theory because of some idiot on usenet that had racial hatred against anyone, including himself that disagreed with him such that now people claim to know a limitless integral to be the same as an infinite boundary which most count as high as five, please tell me with all of your genuine concern that is obviously spent here for my and everyone else’s benefit here out of the free goodness of your dear heart how much you think I am going to specifically lose monetarily from my wallet that has you so seriously concerned such that your continuous barrage of slanderous remarks about one if the nicest ladies I have ever had the pleasure to virtually meet can be even remotely justified… I am all ears now, and please feel free to read my mind as well if you cherish your insanity ( re: channelling is by lawful determination enough to get you “hooked up” to a permanent happy-time medical IV ) so I can budget my estate wisely after thanking you for your wisdom. Please remember that I can normally only find about a buck and a half per day on average ( but my cost of living is a bit less than that so I usually only need to do that if I smoke too much of my own sales stock ) while you are calculating what is more than likely going to save me from the next round of L.A. Riots, kk? Thank you in advance for all of your hard work on my behalf and I look forward to your reply.
Rumor, from seemingly reliable source. Rothschild signed off on fed, assets returned to “Republic”, IRS collections suspended, bank reset waiting on a couple of signatures, public announcement in 24 hrs. Obama confessions on July 4th. All bank info sources are quiet, all support pkgs to be launched at same time. Still just rumors at this point. But feels real and right to me.
Betcha nothing happens. I saw John pitching this on his Nesara blog, but in many years he has never been right.
I agree, probably nothing will happen.
John who John? Very curious now…LOL
John who John? Very curious now…LOL
Never mind…found the blog…interesting stuff…thanks for pointing me to it.
Sounds hopeful! Maybe this is the disclosure he is going to do? Not ETs after all. At least not now.
Regarding not using our computers on 21 June appears to come from:
http://lightworkers.org/channeling/183606/montague-keen-message-june-9-2013
Montague Keen . 9 June 2024
Continue to be strong, my dear, knowing that our plans will come to fruition. Occasionally, an attack gets through. Remember, it is nothing like it was when I first passed over. We are protecting you. There is a shield around you. You know at a soul level that we will succeed. You are seeing how those who want to destroy life as you know it, are being challenged by those of the light. The meeting of the cabal [in Watford, England], which they tried to keep secret, is being openly challenged by the irrepressible DAVID ICKE. What you are seeing is the dark (hidden behind locked doors); and the light, led by David, openly celebrating the coming together of the awakened masses. Even those who are paid to protect the cabal must be questioning themselves as to why, what this cabal does, is hidden and in secret, and is not reported by the media. Now, this shows you clearly that the cabal controls the media. They control the content of the news worldwide. You are only told what they allow you to know.
Who gave these people the right to decide the future of mankind? You must wake up to the subliminal control of your minds. Become who you are, and take back your power and your planet. These Archons have used every trick in the book to lull you into a false sense of security, and to persuade you to obey all their laws that have removed all freedom from you. You sleep-walked into this situation. Are you now just going to sit back and allow them to CULL THE POPULATION, and to create prisons for the rest of you, so that you can serve them.
You are Spirit and you are capable of so much more, if only you could put your minds to it. They have picked off every country that has tried to be independent and go it alone. They are getting quite desperate to bring Iran under their control. But the Iranian people will not play their game and give them an excuse to invade.
Keep calm ! You have witnessed what they have done in other countries all around you. You must not fall into the same trap as they did. Be strong. The cabal is watching all its plans being made public. They can no longer hide. They now find themselves fighting for their own existence, so they will take desperate measures to protect what they regard as their own.
THEY PLAN TO ATTACK ALL COMPUTERS ON THE 21ST JUNE. So, be wise, and have a rest day. Do not use your computers on that day. They know they were exposed by means of the internet, so now they want to destroy it.
Research the Archons and learn how they operate through mind control. You must be awake and alert. Come together as you have done with David Icke, this weekend, and show that you will not just stand by, and allow this take-over to happen. You are now fighting for your very existence. Stand up and be counted. By sitting back and doing nothing, you are allowing the cabal to destroy you and your planet.
Together, you are strong. The cabal controls everything: food, water, air, and the weather. But your souls are still FREE. So go into your hearts and souls. Then you will find the strength to prevent what the cabal has in store for you. They are not human, as you are. They are arch manipulators of minds and they can appear as anything they wish.
Since I passed to spirit, I constantly remind you that NOTHING IS AS IT SEEMS. This is so important for you to remember. You have trusted the wrong people and you have suffered for it.
The Vatican is now trying to survive as the rats leave the sinking ship. It is being exposed as the seat of evil that secretly controls your world. This is the game it plays; creating many religions and causing wars which destroy the lives of innocent children. It does this by creating FEAR. Now, it is itself in fear, as it fights for its existence. They, too, find themselves exposed and vulnerable. The light has to expose all the darkness so that you can be free.
The light of truth is spreading her wings across your world. Country after country is waking up and seeing what is being done to keep you docile and in control. When you fully understand that when you stand together as one humanity - all one - with no divisions of class, state or religion, then you will be free, as in ancient times. This was before Rome set out to create the empire in which you now live (though they do not admit that this is what they have done). The God they serve, bears no resemblance to the God of Love, who now awaits you. You have been cruelly deceived by those you trusted. Those who preach hell, fire and damnation, are lying to you. It is all part of the plot to keep you in fear and under control.
Do not be frightened of death. It is a beautiful experience. A returning home to where you belong, with those you have loved, waiting to welcome you back. It was a heartless thing to do, to make people fearful of dying. Life on Earth is but a journey of exploration which you chose to make, sometimes to learn and expand, and sometimes to bring about changes that are necessary for humanity to survive. Earth is a beautiful planet and it needs your protection. The cabal isolated the Earth from its sister planets which eagerly await its return.
Think with your hearts. Logic is what you were taught by the cabal, to prevent you from going into your hearts and seeing things as they really are, not as the cabal tells you they are. When operating from the heart, man would never kill another man or destroy countries just because they are different. You are encouraged to see others as less than you. But no one is better than anyone else; different, perhaps, but never better or less. The cabal sees all of you as FOOD.
Protect and preserve your sacred places. Value them, love and respect them, for they are an important part of your future. The cabal has tried to block the sacred energy of these places. This energy is still contained within them, and when you release it, you will see it changing your world, and all will become peaceful.
You are on Earth at this time to bring this about. It is your mission and you will succeed. You will then cease to be the robots - there, only to serve the cabal - and you will become loving, thinking, caring human beings, working together to restore your planet. The cabal has not managed to prevent the pole shift, though they did try, as it exposes the lies they have produced in order to make life difficult and costly for you. They are having to learn that it is not in their power to control everything, no matter how they try. In serving them, you are guilty of a crime against humanity. Think about that for a moment. Can you live with that ?
With love in your hearts, join your fellow man, in restoring your planet. When the cabal sees man coming together, it will realize that its game is over, and those within it, will leave your planet, never to return. So this is their last ditch attempt at a complete take-over with their New World Order. Look at them: they are parasites, living off of you. Is this what you want?
They cannot exist on Earth without you. Now, see who is really in control and wake up to this fact. Love, and love alone, will win the day. When you come together in love and harmony, nothing on Earth can stop you.
Veronica, my dear, we can show the way, but it is a matter of choice whether
people see the light, join together and move forward to a better way
of life for all.
This is mostly correct, but to insinuate that Iran is ‘free’ and ‘going it’s own way’ just shows that you are just as fooled by mainstream media as most. Iran is and has been under cabal control for a long time. The people there are not free. Women dream of riding bicycles with wind in their hair, but they can’t. Why? Because riding bicycles and not wearing a scarf is strictly forbidden in Iran and will put a woman who attempt it in jail for years.
The Iranian people has absolutely no control over their country’s destiny. This is all in the hands of the brutal priests, which were instated with help of the CIA decades ago. Any dissident is brutally imprisoned, tortured, limbs cut off and hanged. Everything that is broadcasted by mainstream media about Iran is controlled by the priest regime, and they design their ‘news’ to fit their agenda.
Sure, Iran might ‘go it’s own way’ in terms of torturing it’s population, discriminate woman, poor and homosexuals, ruin their own economy while the priests steal from it’s people, not helping earthquake victims, imprisoning dissidents and hanging rebels from construction cranes in public, to mention a few of their ‘quirks’ of individuality.
You might be quite awake Sucheta19, but this comment about ‘Iran going it’s own way’ just tore a big hole in your image.
You might be quite awake Sucheta19, but this comment about ‘Iran going it’s own way’ just tore a big hole in your image.
Image is a 3D concept! I did not write this - I just posted it to inform people about the 21 June virus attack.
Take from the article what you can/want…
Love and Light
Iran is free in the sense that it refuses to act as lapdog of the West. It is building alliances with other Eastern countries, including India.
There is a definite divide between Western (including Japan) developed nations and others.
If the cabal comes down, the people will be able to help each other towards the light - this is what we are working towards.
Just for the record, FUCK YOU john.
Thank you for saying what I was thinking.
Here’s an interesting read:
The Influence Of Neuroticism On Stress
Perception And Its Resultant Negative Affect
Irum Saeed Abbasi
San Jose State University
http://scholarworks.sjsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4963&context=etd_theses
Here is one that agrees with it:
http://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/pdf/publications/fa-142.pdf
Great information Sucheta19, thanks for sharing. It makes me wonder if the Cabal was planning some kind of attack/siege of the internet..why would they plan it to happen on any particular day ? This provides opportunity for info leaks, people to find out and stay offline. You’d think if they really wanted to take control it would occur randomly..when no one would have the chance to do anything about it.
My thinking exactly.
I love your name Moon Maiden. It’s a name I have used in the past being a water sign and ruled by the moon.
Very cool! So some information I would like to share with everyone pertaining to this day. June 21st is the start of the summer solstice and from what I have learned in my search for the truth is that the Cabal does nothing randomly. They are very methodical and plan things well in advance (years in fact) and manipulate energy for their own agenda and the summer solstice would be one of those energetic times of the year that they would certainly attempt to manipulate. I’ve read that they also attempt to hijack energy raised by us on those special occasions and so it’s very important for all of us to stay grounded in our hearts and desires for the change we want to see. I personally will be sending out lots of love and light energy before and after the summer solstice just to do my part to offset any damage they may be attempting to do.
Sucheta19…yes…thanks for sharing…It’s a beautiful message and one that resonates deep within me.
June 21st is the start of the summer solstice - 21 may also reflect Agenda21.
Sucheta19…yes…thanks for sharing…It’s a beautiful message and one that resonates deep within me.
You’re welcome.
Love and Light
Very good point..thank you for bringing that back to mind for me!! Agenda 21 had totally slipped out of my consciousness….Love and Light to you as well.
Maybe this is a clue. I do’t know.http://ascendingstarseed.wordpress.com/2013/06/12/maya-the-deer-whisperer-befriends-a-fawn-video/
I found this delightful to listen to, very soothing.
Published on 2 Jun 2024
Once these fractal patterns of sound interact with your DNA, resonance is established. And once resonance is established, any scalar emitting patterns of Oneness from other humans will move you into coherence, which means whether you’re ready or not you will be sending the patterns of harmony out into the world.
Grace Space has three layers of balancing woven together. The first layer is the music, which soothes the conscious mind, keeping it from interfering with the bicameral balancing of the brain. The second layer is the isochronic solfeggio effect, used to move the brain into synchronicity, which in turn allows repatterning of a harmonious nature. The third layer is the words. Russian research in quantum physics has shown that words themselves can alter DNA, not unlike the Emoto work with words altering the patterning of water into ice crystals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Mqh5npk654I
Thanks. I really enjoyed this!!
Love and Light
Glad you enjoyed it.
Wow, thanks!
Why do so many comments appear in the subscription to e-mail comment listings that then appear on this thread intermingled with much earlier comments? It would appear some of them are actually responding to certain previous comments, when in fact, they don’t show up in the thread until much later? Why is that?
I think that when you reply to a comment it attaches to that comment by date. Is that what you mean?
By the way, I posted this much earlier today, but it never showed up @ all…(?)
Neat! I noticed GW Hardin posted it (Grace Space) – his comments are interesting underneath that video about: “It’s come to our attention that isochronic tones are interfered with in mp3 format if the sampling rate is below 128bits. After checking with Amazon, we find out that Amazon uses variable bit sampling. Because of this, we cannot stand behind the music working like it’s supposed to with the mp3 downloads. At some point, I’ll see about creating mp3 files with hi-bit sampling that can be downloaded from soundsofwonder(dot)com…or gwhardin(dot)com”
“A=432 Hz [tuning], known as Verdi’s ‘A’ is an alternative tuning that is mathematically consistent with the universe. Music based on 432Hz transmits beneficial healing energy, because it is a pure tone of math fundamental to nature (as 528 Hz is). According to Brain T. Collins, a musician and researcher, the standard pitch (A=440 Hz) does not harmonize on any level that corresponds to cosmic movement, rhythm, or natural vibration. The greatest musicians, such as Mozart and Verdi, based their music on the natural vibration of A=432. It’s true that 432 Hz is only 8 vibrations per second different from the standard tuning, but this small difference seems to be remarkable to our human consciousness.” http://attunedvibrations.com/432hz/
It’s really interesting (to me anyway) how A432Hz tuning was changed to A440Hz tuning (the attunedvibrations.com site gives the history of that), and it says this about A440: ” Music based on 440 Hz represents stuffed emotions and blocked energy.”
Also http://jillswingsoflight.com/ (“dedicated the the remarkable powers of Sound and Vibrational Energy”) has some free healing downloads.
Enjoyed Harald’s insights & sentiments 2! Thx,
Wondering wut give w/the comments being rearranged or not posted @ all. Maybe it has something to do with length? That doesn’t exactly follow though, given the length of some of the earlier and even more recent postings. Anyone else notice the arbitrary posting on this site?
Anyway, regarding music, there was apparently a change made in tuning that affected harmonics worldwide, some info can be found below:
“A=432 Hz [tuning], known as Verdi’s ‘A’ is an alternative tuning that is mathematically consistent with the universe. Music based on 432Hz transmits beneficial healing energy, because it is a pure tone of math fundamental to nature (as 528 Hz is). According to Brain T. Collins, a musician and researcher, the standard pitch (A=440 Hz) does not harmonize on any level that corresponds to cosmic movement, rhythm, or natural vibration. The greatest musicians, such as Mozart and Verdi, based their music on the natural vibration of A=432. It’s true that 432 Hz is only 8 vibrations per second different from the standard tuning, but this small difference seems to be remarkable to our human consciousness.” http://attunedvibrations.com/432hz/
It’s really interesting how A432Hz tuning was changed to A440Hz tuning (the attunedvibrations.com site gives the history of that also).
I find this to be very interesting..thank you. Have you listened to the tones at the link Sonya posted previously? I had attempted to listen to that one on 2 different occasions since I saw it posted in information from AK and It makes me so tired and makes it hard for me to focus and I swear I can literally feel the two sides of my brain and I don’t understand what that could mean. I guess the best way for me to explain it is the area where my third eye would be represented on my forehead feels like it’s splitting in two. So would the purpose of the tones be to correct something or perhaps cause that and for what purpose…healing?…balance??..IDK…just looking for others to share their perspectives and experiences…thanks again.
Would it make more sense if you knew John and Sonya are connected?
Connected? Too funny. No idea where Sonya is. I’m in S.E. Texas.
Clearly, though, Ken, if we don’t believe what you believe, we must be evil. Right?
No. I think you are focusing too much on the problems. Could it be time to move in a different direction and use your knowledge of the issues to help propel us forward. Sometimes your comments feel like I am being pulled back down. I read them because I read everything I can in hopes of obtaining some absolute data that will push me up. I am sure you have some. Thank you and no disrespect intended.
South East Texas…Really? It’s a small world John. My husband has an uncle in a little bitty town in South East Texas and my dad just recently moved to another little bitty town there as well. It’s certainly a different way of life where they are. Back to the simplicity of life. I see a bunch of good ole boys who work hard and come home and hang around their trucks and drink beer til dark. Women who work and still cook them good old Southern favorites and children who love to spend their time outside in nature. They all love to fish and the men also hunt and even wrangle alligators. I always enjoy visiting and going to the ocean. Lots of fun!! I always get a big kick out of that town “Cut and Shoot” when we pass through it. What kind of name is that? LOL
Also http://jillswingsoflight.com/ (“dedicated the the remarkable powers of Sound and Vibrational Energy”) has some free healing downloads.
I would like the gurus that were in the desert to explain something to me. They said they opened the “Eternal Essence Portal” and collapsed the old slave trade system that once existed in Africa. Why, while they had that portal open, didn’t they finally and completely collapse the current commercial slave trade system that is oppressing us all today?
There they were, connected directly to eternal essence, and they didn’t do what we needed most! So, now we are back to waiting on Heather and Caleb to create tools for us to do every day battle with the PTW.
What could they have been thinking? They were connected directly to “god” (whatever that means to you) and they did not fix the current problems of the world.
Does anyone care what John wants? Maybe that’s why he doesn’t get any answers. I on the other hand have all the answers I need. Strange, huh?
What answers do you have? That Heather says stuff you want to be true? No problem, it will become perfectly clear what Heather is not.
I have all the answers I need too Ken. You know I’ve been doing my fair share of trying to share my thoughts, feelings and understandings of the circumstances at hand and why I’m so comfortable with all that is happening, but I did get overloaded and lost my cool..so I’ve just decided to not even bother with particular post as my energy is too valuable to be exhausted on anyone that is hell bent on trying to lead me astray and better spent on those people who are genuinely looking for answers and support and offering the same in return. I hope you’re feeling better and am glad you are here. I have enjoyed your post..some immensely…and appreciate sharing dialogue with like minded people which is what i thought this entire blog would be. I found out I was wrong, but that’s ok because it does still boil down to free will choice. Even with all the facts and data at hand there will be some that will still choose not to believe. While I’m waiting for this to all come to fruition I enjoy watching Bill Hicks..He was so damn funny and so right on top of it all…the sad thing for me is I was not aware of any of this back then or him while he was still here..I would love to hear what he would be saying today. I have always loved George Carlin, but had never seen the video where he tells us all about ” The Owners of the County” until just recently on integratingdarkandlight.com.
All done May then June now July ? Heather and D speak in unintelligible language what’s up with that I’m- BODY ments . Please explain in clear and concise language about imbodyments in Reno is about? Heather is awaiting the st Germaine trusts and pp programs would appear that heather funded the gurus to Morrocco for three weeks. She must have some access to her value ? Why the wait . Awaiting tools ?
They insist they are being transparent, but speak in tongues few can understand.
http://goldenageofgaia.com/2013/06/and-the-divine-feminine-in-action-in-turkey/#more-181354
Please show me one item of truth in the last 6 months that heather D Brian Lisa Mark Caleb has told us about our value, 10 billion in our image accounts, who are they to award these sums out of thin air?
I am sorry and do not want to sound pessimistic about this whole movement but I think it is another con ploy and false statements to get a following for their inflated egos I don’t believe one word from any of them their are jokesters and laughing and make no sense
I am gone from these false prophets please do not get your hopes up again they have failed you for 6 months and will continue to lead you on because of very inflated ego in bodiments Why waste 3 weeks in Morrocco without getting this all done . Makes no sense folks
Jesse, I’m sorry for your frustration and I’m sorry that you have been scammed before. I think we all have. However, I’m not sure I understand how you can say that they have failed us for 6 months or that this is a scam. They haven’t asked us for anything and in fact haven’t asked us to be here or to follow them. That has been our free will choice. Heather has said over and over again that we don’t have to follow her and in fact tells us to take ALL of the information and dissect it and use our own inner abilities to discern the truth for ourselves. If you have read all the information that has been made available to us, done your own research and it doesn’t ring true for you then so be it. I can appreciate that. However, what suggests that the time spent in Morocco was a waste? Do you not believe in or understand energy work? Do you not believe in the power of prayer and people setting intent to bring about change? The ptw absolutely know about setting intent and bringing about change as they have used it to control us for a very long time…just look at what goes on at “The Grove” and the “Cremation of Care”. I’ve done energy work and I know it works…I didn’t always understand it and was scared of it all for a long time until a situation manifest in my life and forced me to take steps to educate myself and learn to defend myself and now I’m a believer and I not only trust the work they have done in Morocco I know that it was necessary and many of us here were there in spirit and lent our energy to that work. For me I could actually tap in and feel it. I’m guessing I’m not alone in that as I’ve heard others talk about it as well. That all being said Jesse..it is your decision to make and I support that!!! I just wanted to share a different point of view and perspective with you. Have a great day!!!
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=430943173665146&id=164918753537287
Actually I did see the earlier posting w/the tones put up earlier, but my kudos for the post somehow didn’t make the cut.(?!) even after 2 separate postings. (Hmmm) So had to take out everything about that earlier post and simply post new info (monitored). Go figure… Speaking of tones, the tone on this thread seems less attack-oriented, and I GET what everyone’s saying - appreciate the referenced comments, some were difficult to make out though which appeared translated & hard to follow. This has been a very interesting thread to read, but the posting progression doesn’t seem to follow any logical deletion criteria. Anyway, thx for the info…
Are you using internet explorer by chance? I can’t hardly get to this site using it and if it does come up and load posting comments wasn’t really working for me either. I can’t even post comments from my cell phone anymore which is an android. I have had to move to firefox and since I have I don’t encounter those issues….just a thought…might help.
http://goldenageofgaia.com/2013/06/fix-the-world-documentary-due-out-tomorrow/#more-181438
http://2012thebigpicture.wordpress.com/2013/06/13/sanity-prevails-us-supreme-court-rules-that-human-genes-are-not-eligible-for-patent-protection/
One Peoples’ Public Notice Board https://i-uv.com/
Thanks Ines!!
Possibility of course. Thx for the feedback Tonia. I noticed Mark Hoza(sp?) put out a msg he’s aware of readers’ frustrations so perhaps they’re tuning in to these threads. Awful lot going on just now in different arenas…
And there is still no Project XIII.
Info….The viruses I was fighting were on my computer. Had to have help to get past. Direct replys to John sent my pc into shock. Wonder why? Again FUCK YOU john and sonya too. Your days are numbered. Your paychecks will soon start bouncing..
Ken, you are retrieving messages from the i-uv.com forum when you reply to my messages. There is no connection between our computers, so you can’t blame me.
It’s paranoid to believe that the only reason anyone would disagree with you would be if they were a government shill. Surely you have noticed in life that there are people who believe differently than you.
You are right, paranoia is an ego thing, its when fear sets in and the ego has no answers to the questions, confusion sets in, then the questions goes around and around. Why dont you try meditation and give your brains a rest. You Will feel much better for it. Trust me. Try LOVING Yourself Unconditionally,. Why? Because that is the Key.
Love$Light
Ken no need to get into any fight, there are more for the truth than against. the truth do not need to be defended it’s not insecure nor fear the oppt or project 13 or the one people, it just be what it is, and who it is, the most powerful force in the universe is LOVE !!! stay in a state of love….
Much love!!!!!!!!!!!
Now now Ken, that’s two “FUCK YOU”s to John. I understand how the counter views of John and others might cause one to have inner conflict, turmoil and confusion. I think in the interests of ‘Love and Light’ eternal essence beings, energy ascended consciousness…an apology should be forthcoming to John. Public of course..in the interests of transparency. Seeing as though he has eliminated himself as a possible source of your recent viral problems.
Oh I’m loving this forum. I guess it’s counter productive and negative of me to post in here without anything real to contribute but hey! You guys are providing amusement for me so that’s a good thing yeah? Besides, I’m still at a stalemate of advancement in either direction because I’m still waiting for answers to my questions from over a week ago.
Written and authorised by me, Mark, who has no connection to anybody!
Okay so it’s okay to be paranoid since after all is said and done, one was obviously mentally ill if one felt they were being watched but because insufficient numbers of people were “getting the drift” they started putting cameras on every street corner which was enough to pay for better optic engineering but still insufficient to get all the real coverage they wanted so they finally went ahead and gave everyone Dick Tracy’s watch so we could give them all of that coverage for free and yet the public is so poorly educated these days in even typical social engineering they still cling to the old sad and tired yarn that working on the chain gang shows they are “stable” even though pactically every trick in the book has been used now to get them to acquiesce to the real system so that the final insurance statistics can ultimately come true enough for socialized medicine to finally offer what they hav been waiting on for about eighty years now, complete with scriptures of pregnostication, which everyone truly realizes in their subliminal mind is of course the all free, ever amply supplied, elixer of society itself… you gussed it… everyone’s societal dream… coming to a street dispenser near you …. SOMA!!! So yes, as soon as you can all bicker up enough stress and paranoia, even if that bogus story about spy agencies spying fails to get you to finally admit it, enough people who you forgot to warn will all be telling the good doctors they think they are being watched which will allow the AMA to keep its unchallenged reputation in tact since rewriting all of those silly questions about who the current president might be or where exactly a voice is heard would cost them, the academic institutions, and all of their lawyers and secretary’s a major fortune and everyone here would cry all night long if such a sad state of affairs were allowed to ever occur, you know?
Face it, the only way to get rid of the booze, gasoline, and the rest of your sanity all in one fell swoop is to simply get you to ask for it. But you all go right on ahead owning things or thinking that you do while your water supply is still all pristine clean since the two concepts of owning and sharing are mutually exclusive and only one of them is associated with slaves, lol.
And be honest, did you really answer all ten of those psychiatric questions truthfully or did you just want that job instead? Lol
{ sine scans up at all the confessions in the above comments and knows why people use their fake names }
Sine gets the “run-on sentences award” for today.
Look, the world has serious problems. The U.S. has serious problems. But those problems are not an illusion. And pretending they are an illusion is not going to solve them. Magic thinking is not going to solve them. Fantasies about having collapsed corporations and governments while they clearly continue to exist and function as always, is not going to solve them. Real-world engagement with the world as it is will be required to solve them. We don’t need energetic portals into eternal essence to solve our problems. We need people, a lot of people, who are not constantly distracted by technology or religious fantasy, to engage in the political and social arena to bring about change.
We’ve been trying for years to defeat the “dark cabal” with the UCC and dozens of other redemption “systems.” And here we are. Still talking smack about the evil corporations and governments, and farther from remedy than we were decades ago. How many times do we need to bash our heads against the wall before we realize that all we are doing is making our heads hurt? If there is anything that the OPPT thing has taught me, it’s that there is no savior “out there.” The new “I-UV” is, in reality, the old UCC redemption movement repackaged in a shiny new box. And Heather, with all her high-sounding “5D” talk, has accomplished no more than any other UCC redemption guru.
So what is your solution John?
TRUTH LOVE & LIGHT WILLSET US FREE…
GOD BLESS…US ALL HIS CREATION.
You didn’t read my post.
John, why should anyone care about serious problems in the USA? Let me see if I can get this straight… You are trying to tell me that just because a bunch of clowns all wear fancy titles around their names and are able to convince a bunch of people that couldn’t defend their own property even if it were only made out of imaginary lines on paper that they will solve all those problems and because they wrote a bunch of squiggly lines on paper and call themselves elected and rich and famous and whatever you actually believe I rely on anyone else to survive and/or solve my daily problems for me and because I live in the same geographic area that these afore mentioned clowns claim to “own”, labeled the USA, you think I owe them or anyone that believes in their delusions some of my mental time and processing power to solve THEIR problems for THEM as if I were somehow liable for them but simultaneously when I provide a simple solution that every reasonable individual could perform, they all cling in fear of the unknown to their broken imaginary system then turn around in anger to blame practically anyone or anything other than themselves and complain once again about the afore mentioned clowns, right?
Kk, see if you can wrap your head around the following facts, please… If that system were merely broken rather than corrupt to the degree of detriment to the entire species, then sure, it might be worth some of practically anyone’s time to come up with a work-around, or perhaps even a real cure all mend and the system could then endure its bankruptcy and maybe even get back on its feet again someday, but those are all pipe dreams John. Just because the grocer hoards a bunch of food under lock and key and just because you need a little green permission slip from “your” broken government to get him to let some of that food fall into your hands so you can “own” it is exactly the same reason you think that system is still running, so who actually gave those clowns the right to give you permission to eat in the first place, huh? YOU DO because they own your heart and mind and rather than stand up and walk out all alone onto the street, you find them convenient to use, even if only to complain about them right?
That system is broke beyond repair though, John so even though the choices are the same as always, procrastination of starting to build something new is all most are doing nowadays, do what’s your rush ? You can help by pitching in, or just like the old system… Sit back all comfy and let everyone else determine your fate as you stand in line some place wishing you were anywhere else but reality, you know?
I think you must address your question directly to Heather, may be it’s not hard to reach her; she has an email address isn’t it?
TRUTH, LOVE & LIGHT WILL SET US FREE…
GOD BLESS…US ALL HIS CREATION.
Heather speaks in an incomprehensible language. Her intent is to obfuscate and intimidate.
Incomprehensible to you so how could you possibly know her intent? Makes clear sense to me and she creates her own choice of which plain English word groups she prefers rather than relying on habitual phrases which are easily misconstrued from one locale to another. So basically you are suggesting that you, yourself prefer the types of phraseology that are typically used in mind control and subliminal advertising instead. If its okay with you I will stick to just saying what I mean, and hopefully your busy schedule will someday allow you enough time to comprehend other people that do the same because I am certain you possess the mental stamina and capacity and are more than likely just irritated about other people demanding do much of your time, right?
So does she intimidate you? She doesn’t intimidate me. Just saying.
She is asked simple, direct questions, and her response is meaningless, rambling, “5D” nonsense.
John, why do you expect different responses than what you are getting from those that you do not resonate with. They seem to be giving you exactly what you expect of them. This proves the point to me that all is subjective. Thank you John for showing that.
Meaningless 5D nonsense only suggests that you don’t get it and are currently incapable of understanding it. However I’ve heard Heather say it isn’t about ascension John “ascend from what to what” I believe is how she said it and yet you keep stating 5D over and over again. There are many sites talking about ascension that I’m sure would be more than happy to educate you on it if that’s your real concern. Idk. Just trying to figure out what ur real issue is.
Hi Folks did you Know that the The Enemy is “Within” The reflection of the the Dark Cabal is your ego. There is NO Out there. Out There IS a Mirror reflection of your ” Perception” Which is manifested accordingly to the Law of Causes and Effect. What you Put in IS what You Get Out. That Is Why YOU are RESPONSIBLE for your thoughts and your Deeds your actions. STOP Blaming others. It seems that some people needs to understand the Spiritual aspect of TOP. Spirit IS the CREATOR. I presume the Money was the Major reason some people got intrested, and Freedom never got mention. Whats the point of having money and not FREE? Love&Light
Thank you, Kenrick. I needed this reminder. I resonate with this info so much. I envision the day when more/most people live in this kind of knowing, instead of trying to pull people back down the poop shoot with them unwittingly.
Exactly.
Normally when I do not accept a certain idea suggestion or belief,I reject it, as my free will choice and Let it Go. So I suggest, that if you believe something and it didn’t resonate with you then un believe it and Go about your business.
There is no opportunity for conflict as it takes two to CONTRACT or co create that is your Power.
Love&Light
For the record, John and Sonya I apologize. Also for the record saying and being are two different things. I am who I say I am, and yes I’m a little paranoid. Whether you want to acknowledge it or not bad things are happening to people that express their dissatisfaction with big brother. Luckily, I’m insignificant enough in the scheme of things that I can rationalize my fears away. Not worth their effort. But unlike some, I’m not naieve and the revelations coming out of NSA are real. We are being spied on and only recently have i been able to monitor the spyware and it may in fact be a coincidence that my protection software shut me down while posting a reply to John, but maybe not. It also bothers me that people can talk about and promote transparency, when in fact, I’m the only poster on here or on most threads that is willing to post under their real name. How about it folks, want to really open the discussion up to some honesty, come clean, take a chance and let’s see where disclosure takes us.
I’m wondering why the thread still exists. Any information available about the OPPT group seems to come from other sources. The information I believe in certainly is not available here. Do any of you really believe that OPPT is in control of the political and financial reset that is going on? They are not, it is in fact out of their hands, and it is in fact taking place right now.It is a huge and complicated process. Many players have to be brought in to the fold so to speak. The financial aspect of it is supposedly all but done. As of yesterday only one signature was needed and it was on the way. But political disclosure is also part of the package, and it is my understanding that negotiations are still under way. Until all pieces are in place, none will be revealed. This event(political and financial reset and disclosure) is a reality and bickering and what have you that is going on, not only here,but other sites as well , will be erased in an instant when it all goes public. Luckily this group has some warning and understanding, a huge percentage of my friends and family don’t have a clue. I don’t believe in coincidence, so I believe there’s a reason that this group exists. What is it? Maybe we will become conduits? Anyway enough rambling, love and light.
Ken, I don’t know how long you have been seeking remedy. I’m 62 and have been in this for decades. I’ve heard all the claims, I watched the forums, etc. The Dinar has been going to RV “tomorrow,” “this weekend - cash in Monday” for 10 years now. The financial reset has been happening “tonight,” “next week,” “July 4,” “Next year,” for at least as long. I can’t tell you how many times some guru or another has said that only one signature was needed, or two, or four.
It isn’t real. It’s the stuff of conspiracy theory and it has been going on for decades. Every promise that has been made to us about remedy has been broken. Every one. Every guru has been incorrect 100 percent of the time. I’m not trying to bring you down. I’m trying to tell you the truth, because all of this nonsense is a diversion. We have spent many years waiting for supposed “secret intel” to result in remedy. It never has. Never.
And now we have Heather. And six months later, we still have nothing. Has all of this been a diversion by the cabal to keep us busy…waiting? Who knows? But now we know everything that doesn’t work, and all Heather has done is repackage commercial remedy, and it has never worked.
Let me add, again, that I think that the only real solution lies with the people. But that requires enough of the people to pay attention to the very real failings of elected officials, and to work toward getting people in there that will not act only in their own self-interest. But this will take a lot of people. And, sadly, most of our population is so distracted by technology, entertainment and religion that they are NOT paying attention, and I’m afraid they will never pay attention. I have decided that the problem lies not in some secretive “dark cabal,” but in ourselves.
As Pogo says, “We have met the enemy, and he is us.”
Who are you John? You want to talk to me then come clean. Until then your words are rhetoric and thus meaningless. You have no answers. Heather is off the board, get over it . She is not your problem. .
John Fraizer. I’m a codeslinger…an independent programmer, working primarily with database applications both online and offline. I have no idea what difference that information could make to you, though.
the only thing i see happening soon is a war in syria
I’ve just come across this video via the David Icke site. This guy wants a revolution:
1. Financial collapse of the system.
2. Common law arrests for all the perpetrators.
3. Destruction of ‘their’ buildings.
4. Community based projects.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TunPWDBWrBY
This the blog that relates to my previous post:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=248042
A further discussion on the subject of revolution is:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=248093
Well this is weird. I’m no longer receiving email notifications of comment updates on this forum. It’s almost as if it’s by somebody else’s design. Like someone wants to oppress me. I feel violated.
Oh well, the conversation seems to be winding down anyhow… Just when it was getting entertaining again.
Let’s ask D and Brian to not be evil and stop harvesting data.
Brian Kelly’s blog is running Quantcast, a data harvester.
Lijit and Quantcast, by the way, are harvesting data.
removingtheshackles.blgspot.ca, for example, has 10 API’s running in the background, mostly to provide advertising and various functionality.
1. Facebook Connect
2. Google +1
3. Google Adsense
4. Google AJAX Search API
5. Google Analytics
6. Google FriendConnect
7. Google Tag Manager
8. Lijit – Provides targeted search and advertising benefits to niche publishers
9. Quantcast – measures and organizes audiences in real-time so advertisers can buy, sell and connect with targeted audiences.
10. Twitter Button
There are only two trackers running in the background on this website:
1. Facebook connect
2. Google Analytics
Since many websites run eight or 10 trackers, this one is very conservative in that regard.
Could the advertising be to cover the cost for their blogs?? Just curious.
Just to clarify…my comment is to Sine Metu.
Blogs are free. Full servers with web site capability cost about $250 per year. When HTJ said awhile months back that “tools would be made available” many people wanting to “rub two nickels together” construed on their own accord that she (HTJ) would be responsible for creating and dispensing them rather than comprehending instead that the work she had finished, her one sole cog in the machine, would now finally allow the creative entrepreneurs the lawful freedom to safely bring tools to market. If you are old enough to remember how cars that ran on “water alone” were villainized in the 70′s even to the degree that one could expect a visit from “Benny and Tony” to one’s garage if any sort of viable invention were made that threatened the oil industry then consider for a moment what HTJ was allowed to see in her visions ( which are certainly beyond English ). Then after she could finally go public ( over two years ago, by the way ) and finally then after last December, shoved into twenty minute maximum time slots among all sorts of hosts and questions presented ad hoc, from all sorts of people of every level of education, metaphysical persuasion, financial agenda, etc., most of which had previously already read or been told something enough to form ill-advised 3rd party perspectives, because she answered them truthfully in whatever pecking order they were presented, a lot of people formed the notion that she owed them something above and beyond all that she had already finished. HTJ may be a bit better now after six months of computer-user crash course training, but a savvy techno-geek wizard is far from her repertoire. Finally as the day is done, the old liars of the old system will continue to lie, cheat, and steal from the public at large as long as you all keep the convenience of their dollar a higher priority than the labor of doing without it. If your life depended on it, you WOULD find a way, but only your dreams depend on their dollar so they got you all hooked like a crack ho on Saturday night, lol. I already designed a new system, but it would take at least an office for me to roll it out, but that’s okay too because the ideas have all been given to some body else to take them on to whomever they end up. That’s the difference between the old and the new ways. Ownership is the major illusion of hell. The two sides in the war are actually “the state” itself and the “civilians”. The only thing they ever change over the years is the fuzzy gray lines between them
Wow…how did this happen?…this was two different post all together…LOL LISI…I can now see your point..what is going on??
John…could the advertising be to cover the cost for their blogs?? Just curious.
Sine Metu…Very good point…you’re so right!
Is how that was suppose to be…sorry if that caused any confusion.
Like we say in Greece… ” Το γαμήσαμε και ψόφησε…”. So much for the hype, for the 10 billions per “embodyment”, for the freedom from enslavement, for the project13 and the I U/V starting off May ’13.. ah.. sorry, 1st of June!!!
You guys just let us down. People are dying everywhere - especially in my country, end you’re playing “mystery novel”.
Why people misconstrue prognostication for a contract is beyond me, but clearly on a planet of such abundance as Ma, those that are deceived to believe they only have one chance to survive another hour all stomp on each others feet, push and shove to fit through the door of whomever they want to blame for withholding their chance of survival from them even if those people are only biding their time waiting for the prognostication to eventually take place on its own.
If I predicted that the sun would rise tomorrow to a group of people who had lived in a cave for the past two hundred years, they would all then expect me to create the sun in the cave for them even though I had explained they need to leave the cave to appreciate the sun.
The reason that nobody has succeeded is that the world is solid. You can pretend that it is not solid. You can imagine that it is not solid. But every time you run at that brick wall, you will end up with a headache and a bloody nose.
Heather’s plan cannot succeed because her belief of how the world operates, of how governments operate, of how corporations operate, even of what the UCC is, is fundamentally flawed. It has taken me many years to come to that understanding. You can talk about birth certificates, about straw men, about dark cabals, about white knights, about space aliens and channeling…and many, many people have. Conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory. System after system. Remedy after remedy. And if the world operated as they imagine, they would have succeeded. If any of these “theories” were correct, one would have succeeded. But they haven’t.
We MUST deal with the world we see, not a world we only imagine. We cannot change the solid world by refusing to acknowledge it is real. Heather, for example, put all the commercial redemption theory in a big pot, stirred it all together, and poured it all on corporations, governments, banks. She threw everything she had at them. And, declared them dead, bankrupt, foreclosed. Had her belief in commercial remedy been correct, all of these entities would be gone. Everyone would be free.
But governments and corporations and banks are still operating. They are still foreclosing on people. People are still starving. People are still being arrested and put in cages. And now, like every time before, the excuses have started. And the delaying tactics. Well, Heather is working on “tools” to access your value. But they never appear. Caleb has this amazing new technology for everyone to communicate with…but he can’t get them distributed. He is going to charge $1 a month…but he can’t set up a payment gateway. “All launch May.” Then June 1. Now July 1.
Fantasy is never going to make a difference. New age, “5D,” or UCC commercial remedy; it doesn’t matter what the fantasy, none of them have ever changed anything. Never. Not once.
John mentioned “heather’s plan”. You have a reference URL for that plan, John?
Dear “embodyment”, if you were to humbly lower yourself down to address human problems, you’d know you first and out most, have to speak to 7 billion poor and narrow minded fellow “embodyments” in a human language, a language they understand! You people, contrary to so many primitive cave people of us, who politely asked you to speak humanly, keep speaking the 5th dimensional “mambo-jumbo”. How in the world you’d expect those 7 billion primitive cave souls, to know how to break from the cave?… Just pause for a minute and reflect.
You guys, speak from the very beginning of “something” that “will” FREE humans from enslavement. The “something” WILL! Not he humans will…!!!
You also hyped us with anticipation, promising specific months and dates… Why you did that? You know perfectly well what the outcome would be if you weren’t delivering on your promises…
Now you blame 7 billion primitive cave people for not knowing (themselves) how to break from the cave…
I’d use several adjectives to describe your stance (yours and many others’), but I’d rather be polite and choose… “entertaining”;)
Very good point….you’re so right!!!
The analogy of the cave is very old and classic, however, to break it down for you, the sun was “predicted” to rise, out of sheer common sense to anyone already outside of the cave, but also that sun will rise of its own accord, specifically meaning: regardless that someone happened to predict so. To break it down for you further, that someone that predicted a new value-for-value system coming was HTJ. To break it down even simpler and because you and others complain about words that are perfectly well used yet still as of yet uncommon to the main stream propaganda reader, the reason to say “value-for-value” rather than “monetary”, “financial”, “fiscal”, “barter”, “trade”, “stock”, “accounting”, or any other term you might be accustomed is because until that system is designed and implemented, any one of those terms would more than likely be incorrect, misleading, etc. To leave the cave is simple: “Stop using dollars”. That is technically very easy to do since the physical labor involved in ceasing that action is certainly less than its continuance. The convenience of that, however, is more than likely too small compared to what most people are willing to enslave themselves. Put another way: most people prefer to wholly depend on the broken corrupt system, but most especially because they would rather leave grand plans and designs to other people; yes even though during those processes they love to complain about how long such things take even as if they are owed those labors. Back to the analogy then, again, in other words, they want the new system brought to them BEFORE they are willing to give up the old. They want the person who predicted the sun will rise to create one for them inside the cave. I presume you get the idea now and also please be aware that terms like 5D are fabricated mumbo jumbo artifacts from USENET nearly 15 years ago, so by using them instead of something like perhaps “eloquent”, or ” literal”, you actually set yoursellf into a stereotype of people that have failed to interact with the Internet over the past thirty years rather than someone who has.
Again…love how you simplify and break it down Sine Metu. Very nice!!
Thank you!
Beautifully expressed ……. can Sine repeat in Ri?
Sine Metu, you seem to climax a bold and destructive propaganda here, and I’d rather not maintain a “courteous” dialog empty of substance. We owe (at least I do), to be frank and respectful to all human beings around as, whether well groomed and educated like you, or simply struggling to survive people, as the 99% of humankind…
So let’s start from there, since that is the most fundamental question (issue) at hand, at least as it emerges out of your above stylish, elitish, twisting, legal-ish, arrogant comment.
So here is the question for you:
All people in this thread are more or less internet/community/social media savvy. If we take into account, just using common sense, the number of thread’s participants, number of OPPT social media (i.e. facebook, twitter, etc) followers, and all relevant OPPT web pages’ traffic figures, it is more than obvious OPPT (now I UV) movement has a “penetration” of 0,0001% within the world population. In other words 99,999% of humans, haven’t even heard of OPPT, I UV, or HTJ in their lives…
So how in the world you blame (better “accuse”) those 7 billion fellow human beings for deliberately choosing to support the old “dollar” based paradigm?..!!! (you cried “stop using dollars” **), instead of flocking into the movement???
Your train of thought is so arbitrary (e.g. “people want the new system brought to them BEFORE they are willing to give up the old”)… that I don’t know where to start!!
Just briefly, I’d like to introduce myself to the fellow discussants in the thread. Contrary to you, I am apparently a real person, with a face, a name, a family, and a hardcore 6-year long activistic activity in my country (Greece) and the world, against the corrupt local and world elite!
So I’m entitled to ask you this:
Have you any idea what it means (and what the implications are), of the fact that people’s personal, communal, nations’ and world’s Maslow hierarchies has gone FLAT?..!!!
Do you know right now, the majority of human race is struggling just to survive day in day out?..
Do you have any idea of the extent of human suffering due to lack of most fundamental human necessities, among them “time”, mental clarity (consequently cognitive suppression), and a such long list of mental and psychological burden?… We’re NOT talking about you, me, HTJ and the rest of this thread. We’re talking about the vast majority of the human beings in the planet!!!
And you still look and talk down at them (and us) with so much lack of empathy and such disrespect…
And you place so arbitrarily the blame on people for deliberately dismissing “grand plans” (which ones damned), to live with the old sun instead of discovering the new, real sun!
To cut a long story short.
If someone (say HTJ, yourself, myself, or anyone else), has a “grand plan”, he/she’d better’ve made a damn good homework (i.e. sound plan), and commit themselves to delivering on their promises! If they fail to address those, and if they haven’t provide any clue on fundamental issues/obstacles of their grand plan, i.e, how in the world are they going to educate (or un-condition) 7 billion souls, in a really short time (i.e. every one’s short future), then my friend no one else is to blame for turning a such inspiring concept as OPPT (still hopeful to many of us)… into a ridicule!
PS.
- If you’d rather address “selectively” any of above questions and issues I put forth for discussion…
- If you intent on using previously used elitish, twisting, legal-ish language…
- If you end up suggesting “higher force” (call it eternal essence, or whatever), will intervene to eventually “DO it”…
- or alternatively other “heaven friends” (aliens in UFOs) will “DO it”…
… please save it. Lots of sane people, myself included, absolutely don’t buy!
** In my country Greece, most attacked country at the moment by the global cabal, cohesive communities formed by conscious and determined people, introduced in full solidarity not one, but seven (7) different alternative “non financial” currencies to fight the “system”, as well as to address very urgent nationwide problems, i.e. 30% unemployment, food crisis and others. The currencies face extreme difficulty to break “mainstream”!
Are really Greek people (or citizens of the world), to blame for this, or the lack of a sound and realistic grand plan, with powerful tools and “weapons” put in everyones’ hands?
Fotis, your flattery is certainly appreciated, but if you have your own private roll of toilet paper, then you enjoy more luxury in life than me currently, lol. If you have a bed of your own, then that’s far more than I can even forecast into my own personal future. On the other hand, though, if you are in the trenches of this fight, then cheers to you, brother, but trying to share a bagel with you from this location is simply impossible as far as I can say.
Fotis, “stop using dollars” is the fastest way. It’s as simple as that.
Yes, I actually do have a design, but delivering it will either be on its own schedule or perhaps only others will take my bit of work to its ends with me smiling from afterlife. If my name is on it, though, its going to be my best work, so schedules and monetary gain are the least of priorities to me. But just because I can design a system that people would love, only means to me two things, namely that 1) so could anyone else that had adjusted their priorities IF THEY REALLY WANT TO; because even as you note, yourself, only the rich and power-suck-full like things as they are ( suck meaning they suck that power from all and everyone that uses the dollars [ energy leeches ] ) and 2) the people that are in control of the dollar already know it is possible and will do whatever is necessary to keep me or anyone else from using our brains to replace it.
It is convenient for you to say that 1% is in control but you still use euros which are tied to the dollar, yes? Anyone that uses their system is perpetuating that system. It’s as simple as that.
If all of heathers and the trustees UCC filings have been removed from the registry for fraud then all of the CN and flyers that we have sent out are void and nil and fraud. Heather has sucked many good people into her scheme American Kubiki Brian KP Gingersnap D (who has moved her whole family to Morrocco ? ) Lisa Chris Bob mark Vera Caleb Randall and all of us who believed in this scheme that has been used before by CharlesMiller who went to prison. Maybe this is why Heather has relocated out of the country? She has not been honest and open to our questions and seems to have lost patients with us by not coming onto ant more shows and leaves it up to D and Lisa and Brian Bob to giggle and laugh at us Very insulting to us that have been betrayed by a hustling attorney and member of the BAR ( British Accredation Registry ) a foreign corporation as Al Pacino said in the movie (Donnie Brasco ) FORGET ABOUT IT) Love and Peace to all anyway !
Wow John, u’r starting to wax philosophical. Maybe u should write more than code(?)…
Not so philosophical. I’ve just learned over many years that all the high sounding talk in the world won’t solve real-world problems. “Vision without execution is hallucination,” Thomas Edison said. And that has been my experience with the world. There have been many promises made from groups and individuals in the “commercial remedy” arena, including, now, those from Heather. Not once were any of these gurus able to deliver. Never. Just talk. Just delay. Just bigger does of hope-on-a-rope.
After all of these failures, I’ve learned to not get too excited until I see the promise realized in the solid world. Heather made the promises; but, like all the others, didn’t deliver. “Vision without execution is hallucination.”
Can u explain? What do u mean been removed from registry?
It seems I’m no longer welcome here. My last post was deleted , not the test post, the one before that.
More than likely a bug. Too many people pushed the little team too hard too fast but voilà, the site exists anyway, lol. I would suggest some Soma, but too few people have agreed publicly that they are being watched so we all still need to wait for the rest of the population to wake up before our masters will give us stuff to sleep for free. What are the odds it could have been human error in this day and age, right? Some day they will erase all the laws since they are too expensive to manage and replace them all with just a single line that reads, “Human error is abolished.”
Love this blog and diverse opinions
Light and love to all
It seem that Trust IS a serious Issue for most PEOPLE even when we know that we MUST change in order to experience a Positive result. Letting go is simple but seemingly difficult, like any addiction. Then again, that’s up to the individual perception.. Its simple to understand that the World we think you are living is a MIRROR image 180 degrees upside down reflection, Illusion whatever. . When that is Understood you DO the opposite to what you were DOing to put things right in creation. To KNOW why WE MUST change remove the negative thoughts belief or perception of OUR Self, is the Key to KNOWING WHO WE are.Our HIDDEN Higher self in plain sight. I’ve understood recently that its not that we don’t have TRUST. it is in Who or What we are Trusting in.
Love&Light
That’s happened to a couple of my posts already, Ken. I can’t figure out a consistent approach to the monitoring. Oh well, it is wut it is…
I want to thank this blog and all involved in the IUV exchange anything that I have previously said that had any negative comments I wish to withdraw them now I appreciate everyone involved in the movement and only positive thoughts and comments will make this a successful endeavor We are all praying and keeping our hearts open for success
Love to all
Jesse
Yayy that’s very nice of you…How about you John?
How about live and let live?
Light and love to you too, Jesse. <3
Update from Mark Hoza
I am going to start posting updates from me on my blog here: http://hoza.me and leave this (skype) room running to use for discussion when I have time to do that. So from now on those who want to just see updates can just watch that site. I will add a blog section for it. Not sure what it will look like, but it should be clear enough. I have not yet posted anything on this there.
Lisa asked for me to talk some on today’s The Collective Imagination show. I’m hoping that I will be coherent and on point so that I can give some idea of what the coming tools are going to look like and what contracting as Embodyments of Eternal Essence will look like, and why that is important.
I’ll have some sleep before then, as it’s 3:33am now.
Mark
Last post and this time I want to sincerely apologize to not only John and Sonya but everyone here, I’ve recently been led to new info that changes my position on some things. I still believe that remedy as John puts is on the way and that humanity is going to move forward but I now realize that there are still players, even outside the Cabal that aren’t playing fair. All will be revealed just not necessarily today. Good luck and God bless. I’m sure some of us will meet again. Love and light.
Hi Ken, Thanks for your apology which, of course, I accept - and I also very much appreciate your honesty.
The way is not always clear, but we will get there……
May your heart be peace..
Picking up the trust-ball Kenrick hiked… Right now, the reality sorta goes like this… When you swipe a card in a machine, you trust some credit card company to accurately trust some bank to keep accurate accounting on some disk drive someplace of whatever number of currency you have trusted them to hold for you for whatever country it is issued from which trusts the federal reserve to exchange it for dollars which can be redeemed for absolutely nothing whatsoever. So sure, they all trust you to do the work to earn some number while they all dip into that number via taxes, fees, exchange rates, insurance, graft, whatever else they can think off like piranha they even tear bits off of each other and let you watch that show on the evening news if the sports is too boring. And after you swipe that card, the grocer trusts that the machine can access the phone lines to make the call to that same credit card company before he gives you the tomato you wanted so that his fictitious number goes up and yours goes down by the same amount. Then, typically, you are handed a little piece of paper which eventually ends up in the trash. Yes, it’s up to you to store your secret history of successful transactions in some useless way that differs from vendor to vendor and all of which is your true credit history. Gold has something to do with all of this but if you are like most people, what little you might have is certainly impossible to use for much of anything but the reverse of what they all claim its for: value. One would think that especially after the bailouts and etc that people would see the light and stop trusting all of these third party middlemen whom beyond being mostly inaccessible, are all certainly happy to take their cut of your labor, but also whom as everyone knows are impossible to collect much of anything from except a statement or a bill. Would it really be so difficult to trust the grocer or even for him to trust you? The system has programmed that skepticism into just about every single local dealing with “strangers” whom we meet face to face. Here is the question now: why?
I will keep checking for updates in the hope that there is more that will be revealed. In the meantime, Love&Light to all here.
the ¨crew” havent got a clue of whats going on, and yet again talking to people on the radio like a 3 years old, some can hardly speak ! and that chris, what can i say, trying to educate the ¨masses” ? all i see is the blind lead the blind
where is all the purported holdings? can we inspect our purported gold and silver?
11 year old with an amazing voice and a wonderful message
Well actually, the TRUST that I am talking about is simply whether you trust in TRUTH/LOVE THE ONE CREATOR AND YOURSELF or the EGO representation of LIES and FEAR ILLUSION. IT is our Misplaced Trust in Fictitious entities, that is the cause of the negative experience. Its simple, the perceived War IS against TRUTH. Which ONE you believe will BE Done.
Clearly this project cannot proceed in the knowledge that our data is vulnerable if we continue with plans to use Microsoft.
It has to be done using a platform that ensures the safety and security of all humans that may use the system.
Various alternatives can be found on http://prism-break.org/
Hopefully this is the problem that may be fixed quite easily.
I, would rather have transperancy, actually. So what is the point of anti-harvesting? In the current broken system your “data” is held in check by experian and other credit bureaus, but what is the point of trusting some total strangers with only what some third party has to complain about you when the thousands of good business transactions you commit over your lifetime are all thrown away? And sure all the slaves have w4 or 1099 or whatever but how many business owners cook their books for one reason or another? So if they want to see my data, that’s fine with me, and to be fair, you see, why should we need to wait for years in suspense for whistle blowers to pop up at random just to create some over sensationalized new opportunity for some one or another group of crooks to cover up their data again? This whole set of propaganda called “national security” loses its wind when one remembers back at how the arms treaties were handled with inspectors etc. I would think that if a real war for resources were an actual threat to the world that rather than boasting some country had 15,000 fighter planes or whatever, that country could show the books right down to the payrolls. Just my opinion and analogy…
It is not the fact that business owners ‘cook the books’ or even that your data is being harvested. It is because it is being used to control the population - your ability to obtain justice, your personal freedom and security may be threatened if you happen to criticise your government or dare to challenge a decision. At its worst, your data is being used against you by your government to ‘shut you up’. People are being ‘disappeared’ and oppressed by the use of their own data. It is being used to break up families (they know where you are, what you are doing at a particular time) that they don’t want to succeed (could be based on race/religion/sexual orientation or even the fact they dont like the colour of your hair).
They can already see what you are doing in your own home but haven’t bothered to tell you yet. However, they want to make it ‘legal’ -
Watch out for the smart meters they want to put in your house:-
http://stopsmartmeters.org.uk/british-families-at-risk-from-smart-meters-ssm-uk-tells-mps/
that have cameras inside to be able to watch you. That’s not included in all the other gadgets that are able to listen/watch you.
Added to this they want to track your thoughts as well…
http://topinfopost.com/2013/06/13/nsa-director-admits-we-can-track-your-thoughts
Are you seriously telling me that none of this bothers you or is it simply that you are not aware of the big picture - agenda21 is a stated aim to reduce the world’s population.
Thank you Tonia ! I have always felt drawn to the moon and recognize the lunar cycle and how it affects the earth and all the life she holds. I was born on the summer solstice in 1967 when the moon was 100% full, and my spiritual path was created
We can all raise our vibrational energies to a powerful level..and then release that energy out into the universe for protection. A universal meditation/chant when we focus our intent at the same time will make us strong and keep us safe. Brightest of Blessings to all while on their own journey to enlightenment )O(
Has anyone seen the animated cartoon from IUV Exchange? The shoe store owner and customer, discussing using ur value. And using a bond, like a personal check then offering the bank a percentage to change ur value into digital dollars (US dollars)? What is a bond, and how do u offer it, and how do u write it? Plz clarify or has anyone else seen it, and might know? Peace, light and love.
From the transcript I’ve just read it seems that the way people will allegedly be able to access their value in hard currency will be by presenting a bond to a bank and asking/persuading the CEO of the bank to credit the amount of the bond to an existing account. Are they kidding? How is this different from the freeman movement trying to use promissory notes for the same thing?
And, as stated in the show, if the bank does agree to do this, it would be tantamount to admitting that all previous mortgages, loans, etc were fraudulent. It seems ridiculously ‘pie in the sky’ and naive to believe that banks will simply oblige…..I mean we’re talking banks here - the stronghold of the cabal, the ones who run the banking scam for the self interest of that same ruthless, evil Cabal. Do you really think they’re just going to cave-in because a handful of people ask them to? Where’s the leverage here?
The ‘bond’ would be backed by the value of the embodiment absent limits - not gold or any other commodity…..so, still the question remains, if Heather has ownership of all the gold and wealth, where is it and why can’t it be accessed?
Neither does the ‘team’ make any reference to the fact that the UCC filings have been removed from the register - and what effect that has on any initiatives individuals may undertake. Without the UCC filings at least, how has anything got any teeth, any more than if any Joe Bloggs went into a bank with a bond or promissory note?
Of course, we know that the banks are acting fraudulently and that we create the money, etc, this is absolutely not new information, but once they admit that’s what they are doing, they are completely finished….just.not gonna happen.
I still see nothing at all of any substance.
What is this removed from registry? Where’s one of the trustees or team, that has any info on this? Somebody needs to do some updating, explaining or something? PPl r using all their tools, plz show me where this has occurred? It is always something in this hell, I swear.
The info about this is posted earlier in the thread.
Thank u for ur reply, I know I saw it, but it didn’t give much info, so I was asking the team , would they reply to it. or of course anyone, and thank u again. I see Heather created a new video, haven’t had a chance to see it. Maybe she discussed it in the video. Peace, love and light.
To quote you….. “Neither does the ‘team’ make any reference to the fact that the UCC filings have been removed from the register – and what effect that has on any initiatives individuals may undertake. Without the UCC filings at least, how has anything got any teeth, any more than if any Joe Bloggs went into a bank with a bond or promissory note?”
What fact? I just went to the Gov. site and it was still there for me. Why would you say such a thing, do you really think people won’t take time to verify such claims? Rest easy people the UCC filings are still there…..but don’t take my word for it, check it out for yourself.
http://www.removingtheshackles.blogspot.ca/
Just listened to D’s interview with Caleb on Project 13, I’ll give a brief cliffnotes version on what I picked up on from it…Caleb and Dee made it clear it is seperate from the I/UV exchange again. Caleb explained that he is charging a dollar a month because Facebook and co. profit off of selling your information, he’s just cuttling out the middleman to direct profit. He would prefer people access it via pc rather than the Iphone as he will receive less money as the Iphone store will take 30% of the dollar. He basically said he isn’t doing an android app because most android users don’t buy apps so why would he make it available to people who aren’t going to buy his project 13. Ok I have to admit that made me go wtf? There are way more android users in my country. He also talked about Mac’s and Microsoft, Google etc. all having virtual stores in about 8 years and I thought, wait so Caleb one of the trustee’s is talking about the future of foreclosed corporations 8 years down the line?
It’s very clear it’s a business venture for him and I have NO issue with that, as I said before, fill your boots. But clearly when he refers to his company and where certain software companies and hardware companies will be in 8 years…only a complete moron wouldn’t be going, umm wait? So the companies you guys proclaim are foreclosed upon you expect will be running and prospering in 8 years. Food for thought people. He also said something regarding the information bouncing around and that technically he could read your information for three days (presumably anyone working for him as well) but he assures that he won’t. He never addressed the fact that Microsoft is bed buddies with the NSA at all. He also stated it is a peer share system, information would float through the cloud to be shared.
The focus was on Project 13 as that was the premise of the interview, it was made clear that anything to do with the I/UV exchange is in Heather’s court, pun intended.
I would like to add that one of my four brothers is a programmer and an engineer. He stated that what Caleb is stating is not possible as it will never be allowed to be completely unaccessible due to internet laws regarding child pornography, etc. There is no such thing as ‘totally secure and untraceable’ cloud activity were his exact words. He said that while Caleb might be able to get rid of advertising on the platform, the government can easily completely shut down his network if he refuses to comply with the laws and withholds information from them. I dunno, I’m not that tech savvy. But maybe that’s why he’s having issues with the payment systems? Wouldn’t they require access to end users information to process payments so Caleb gets paid?
Paypal is also a foreclosed company…….and paypal refuses to accept payments for Wikileaks…….but they will accept payments for a project which has foreclosed on its own company and all the banks and governments????
I wonder if Caleb has sent paypal and Microsoft a courtesy notice, informing them that those he is doing business with are personally liable because the corporations they allegedly work for have been allgedely foreclosed on by the project which his website is for?
That is a very good question indeed. But I would like to clarify that Project 13 is Caleb’s business venture and isn’t part of the I/UV exchange, however being a Trustee on behalf of the One People, you would think he would have done what you asked, wouldn’t you?
Like I mentioned in another post. I would be completely willing to buy the “Project XIII Lifetime Silver Membership” for one “Silver Eagle” (99.9% fine Silver) coin shipped to a location of Caleb’s choice. As a Mac and iPhone user that should cover the 30% one time fee that Apple charges for an “App” download and my “Lifetime” membership. Bare in mind that that 30% fee is only for the original download of the software if it has a price. Caleb’s fee of $1.00 a month has nothing taken out of it except for possibly a 2-3% processing fee if he goes through a third party because that transaction is between you and Caleb only.
Will there be something like the “One Page Contract” with Caleb for this service?
Also,it is my understanding, and I could be wrong here, that it is the concept of a “legal fiction” that has been foreclosed upon. A business can still operate but there is no longer any “Corporate Shield” for anyone to hide behind.
Does anyone have any idea with the “Corporate Foreclosures” if anyone contemplating opening a business, like for instance Caleb, will be legally operating as a “Trust” instead of a business that a foreclosed city can tax?
Caleb, under what business classification will your business be running under based upon common law?
Caleb, which foreclosed bank will you be keeping your assets in if you are even using a bank?
Caleb, I don’t mean to be personal here but as one of the original Trustees of OPPT I think you, better than most, might have a pretty good grasp of the ramifications of exactly what OPPT accomplished and how your are moving on in this world on your terms new found business venture, how it is structured and how one would best setup a business from this day forward. A little insight into your thoughts in this area would be of tremendous benefit to others around the planet who may be contemplating a business venture of some kind and the best way to go about setting it up.
Would still like to know what the behind the scenes reasoning was for using the number “13″ in the name considering all of it past connotations.
Thanks for all you gracious help all along the way.
If I am a Bank operating in full transparency, liability, accountability based on bonds certified by the I/uv exchange account in the same process as a regular bank why would they not want to play with me on equal terms with the same transparency, liability and accountability then we will do the exchange, I’ve got a pay it forward Bank plan and have only to chose a catchy name for my bank. This is my focus and only focus, where my energy resides. There are no and’s, if’s or buts, no doubt that there are going to be avenues to put our value to good use for the betterment of all of human kind. I could care less about these details because I’m sending out into the universe my own details and I am sure that those details are going to return to my consciousness better than I originally thought. No doubts, it increases the stamina for my law of patience.
Ladies and gentlemen
The OPPT is nil and void because the PTB have withdrawn all of heathers UCC filings because they were fraud and not approved to conform with UCC protocol So that means all courtesy notices and flyers sent out around the world are a fraud and nil and void So why should we expect the IUV and project 13 to be any different ? Do your research and do not depend on their spokespeople who know absolutely nothing what heather is up to with Caleb ? When they speak on Monday and Tuesday nights what do they talk about that we can learn from ? Nothing but laughs and giggles and unintelligeable garble please please do not put your hopes and dreams on heathers false statements research Charles Miller who founded the OPPT and heather pick up the fall and did her false filings that have been withdrawn from the UCC registry
Think about it promises of MAY JUNE NOW JULY ???? I am truly moving on because I do not want my hopes and dreams hinging on heather Caleb Lisa bob Brian or anyone who went to Morrocco to play in the sand with nothing to show for it ? Please be discerning about this whole thing thank you Love and light jesse
Please provide facts.
Re: sucheta19 comments
Rather than being “worried” which wastes time and energy accomplishing only fear and abysmal psychic trauma, I prefer to work on a ( perhaps the ) solution, and I advise you and anyone else to do the same in whatever fashion possible with whatever resources you deem necessary. As long as you allow the centralized “powers that were” to occupy your mind, simply recognizing them within your psyche conditions your creative independence from internal realization. The “real government” is collectively conscious and tuning into it means necessarily that one “changes the channel” and tunes the old stuff out of the picture. Yes, I remember the day the man came to our neighborhood and replaced the meter, and I remember his nod in agreement that he knew he was replacing his own previous job of reading them, and that was only a week or so before I abandoned that house, so who cares?
Collective conscious also means decentralized government means less individual ownership in every which way possible and more sharing in every which way possible as well.
I am working with a couple other people on a real total solution but guess what happens if I die? It will keep spreading because rather than being in least bit proprietary about the design, and instead of “worrying” about people trying to defeat it or steal from it or even steal the idea itself, all I focus on is the transparency, accountability, but most of all, the decentralization of authority in practically every aspect.
If you spend your time doing the same and get yours done first, then great! Because its more important to get the job done as high quality as possible than worry about anything egocentrically personal whatsoever. Try it, and rest your nerves. Do you actually see them knocking on your door, or have they now programmed you with propaganda to the degree of fearing what is only hypothetical?
Huggs, hope this helps.
Thanks for the huggs - much needed at this very stressful time. Just to give you an idea of what I am going through, I have started a campaign I hope you will be able to support. This is an abuse of Human Rights.
http://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/rip-for-whistleblowers-1
With respect, Sine, Jesse’s comment was specifically about TOP/OPPT. Of course, all of us can try to devise a different, new solution, and we can all remain ‘positive’, but this thread is specifically about TOP/OPPT and the alleged I-UV solution as publicised by Heather and the ‘team’. In that regard, the point Jesse makes is entirely valid. All the UCC filings have been withdrawn. As yet, I have not seen any statement from Heather et al about the ramifications of that on initiatives which individuals may take. They continue to state that the corporations don’t exist any longer - whilst common sense and observations show that not only do they still exist but they are fully functioning and operating full steam ahead to destroy us and our planet.
hey sonya, i can find all the documents there, just checked again
Hi Will - not sure which docs you’re referring to? Thanx.
all the ucc filings, they r all there for you to check, you have to register first. i checked it again yesterday, all there. but i cant check it on the washington department of licensing ucc searching website.
you have to go to the washington dc online record website : https://gov.propertyinfo.com/dc-washington/
Thanks for the reminder Sine….worrying is a waste of time and accomplishes nothing while adding misery to our own experience. I struggle with it too so I know it’s not easy, but allowing ourselves to be pulled in and down by certain people’s negativity and support of the negative thoughts and actions only serves their HIDDEN agenda.
We are the one people…always have been…we didn’t need Heather to tell us that…at the very least it is an idea worth spreading.
I support change…I support love…I support freedom…I support taking responsibility for our own choices and actions as well. I DO NOT CONSENT to anyone trying to feed me negativity or attempting to feed off of the negative thoughts and emotions they attempt to stir in me and others via this blog!
Tonia, No-one is trying to feed you negativity - people are simply expressing different views and questions. It is you who perceives that as negative.
Thanks for the confirmation Sonya!
No problem, Tonia.
I have seen the repostings of the UCC filings. However, I still do not understand why the so-called foreclosed entities of Microsoft/Facebook are being used. I would like an answer to this and other concerns regarding the security of everyone’s data. I am concerned that poorer countries that currently do not have this problem of their data being used for nefarious purposes (NSA, PRISM, etc etc) may be being enticed into a system that does not value them as human beings.
In the meantime, I understand if people are concerned that their all their thoughts and actions are being monitored by TPTB (as they continue in their operations) if they are too afraid to speak out/support their fellow human beings.
This is the first test of our true worth/love for each other. No new system/way of being can ignore this fact.
Love& Light.
Feel the love,
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=244366
Love&Light
D update: “UPDATE on Project XIII: Caleb is still waiting on approval of the apps from the iStore and Microsoft. IF they delay/continue to delay, Caleb will launch the Desktop version and to hell with them!”
Iphone charges 30%, microsoft phone is not as prevalent, why not just release the desktop version now?
This discussion really has my interest because heather has acknowledged in one of the calls that all the UCC docs have been withdrawn ? She also said it does not matter because they are now in pepituity and universal law ? What I cannot figure out is why all the delays by D heather Caleb and no status from Mark ? Do you think July 1 st date will be met to institute the iUv and the project 13… Listening to the 2 calls each week the crew has not a clue as to the real status going on and is spinning the issue to buy time if it will ever launch? I am keeping a positive heart and mind for the world to be released from the oppression from the greedy cabal
Love and light to all
Thank you Will for the link to the UCC filings - and to Sucheta19, for your reference to the ‘repostings of the UCC filings’. Does anyone have any background info on this? If they have been reposted, does this mean they are re-entered in the register? Confused, lol!
Thank You All! What Happened No More Comments After 28 June? Today Is July 1st And Where Is Project 13!
Promises Promises Promises how many launch dates has heather and her faithful flock put out in announcements? She is waiting for the government to give her the go ahead She has no control as she purports to have may June July and counting what is up with her and Caleb ?
I am very disappointed with false dates
Thank you Jesse! Heather does Not wait for Anyone! You Ask The Questions And She Answers Transparently! But is Your Question complete enough for the complete answer you want?
Anyway now Heather Is working on paperwork to give everyone their value - isn’t She?
Opinions opinions about what Caleb and Heather are DOing, if you ask you shall receive. If you ask in a negative manner don’t expect to receive an answer.
This is something many forgets, especially the desperate/money hungry ones.
Another point to raise is the RV/NESARA projects, if these projects suddenly releases at the same time as the I-UV and Project IIIX, then we will know RV/NESARA is the same girl, but with a different partydress as someone elegantly put it.
Stay tuned
Rene, that release has occurred as I received an email about it yesterday. Here is the link to the blog with the full story http://shiftshaper.org/freeatlast/2013/07/07/poofness-introducing-you-to-your-future-772013/ In it they talk about funds for projects being available within 6 weeks. They tell us to pay off our credit card debt and mortgages and to submit requests for funding for our projects by sending a business plan to the email address in the blog. They said they will take a cut of the profits from each project to further fund us as our projects continue.
This smacks of bad ethics to me. There is the willingness and encouragement to further fund corrupt banks by paying off debt and continuing to pay into their coffers. There is the fact that they are setting themselves up as an unelected government by deciding who gets funds and by taxing our efforts with a demand for a percent of the profits of our enterprises. This sounds like a continuation of the control system that we are trying to shed.
I sent an email to the address on the Removing The Shackles blog stating my suspicions and I got this reply from D “As i have been saying for months- it’s all about the contrast!! and this is the highest of contrasts. it has nothing to do with I UV at all. it’s a cabal plan to keep their power- just as I have been saying for months.”
So, be cautious about whom you support or we could find ourselves in a new version of the old slavery system - same girl, different party dress…
It’s never good when they set the rules that you must accept them or forget about future projects. That’s not freedom, that’s limiting the actual person (We the people!) in charge.
They’re not interested in getting the world free of the monetary-system, but continue sustaining it as long as they see fit, or moving towards something they can benefit from in the long run.
It smells!
I read the whole thing, and as Eagle says there are some redflags, and telling us that the PTW are getting flushed out? Strange, since they are supporting the same kind of system/business, where THEY set the rules… but for the fun of it I’m going to send an email by requesting them to fund Dr Greer’s and SEARS Free Energy projects, since they are well documented (as what they required) and ready to go!
If they are flushing out money, then it could be placed in projects that are just waiting for funds and get them going ASAP!
Just a thought since it benefits EVERYONE at least to we get this monetary-system out of the way.
What do you think?
I think you have to make sure that you are not unknowingly committing yourself to being their slaves. A portion of the profits will always go to the folks who are merely giving you what is already yours. Why don’t they just get busy using their own value instead? You would definitely have to sign everything “Without Prejudice” so you have recourse if they try to mess with you later.
Playing devil’s advocate here, but it is also possible that the ‘crew’ are waiting until the RV happens before releasing the document(s) that Heather is working on so they can assert that the RV was held up until Heather’s documents were made available. At this point there seems to be no way of really proving who is waiting for whom, or, indeed, if either initiative is waiting for the other at all. Until hard proof is available it still seems to me to be more smoke and mirrors from both camps.
Everyone, please see the Removing The Shackles blog for details of what is happening with Heather and crew.
Yesterday I sent this email to the address on that blog and I got this reply. My email;
“Hi,
Thank you very much for this important update. And thanks for taking responsibility for your part in the missed date. You must know that for us it has been rather like standing at the wedding altar with 300 guests and a priest staring at you and your fiance failing to appear with no word why. Ouch!
About energetics; in my life when working on major projects I experienced that the counter-intention of those opposed to that project would cause all kinds of weird phenomena like computers failing, people getting ill, and even accidents. One just powers through and gets it DONE. But I also noticed that when I’ve been working with a group of people with 100% positive intention magical things happen, keys that never worked suddenly open doors, obscure phone numbers for an office in Europe are suddenly found through a casual question to the most unlikely stranger, a friend whose help I needed but whom I haven’t seen in years is suddenly standing there and offers the help asked for.
What keeps me stuck to this project is the fact that it is RIGHT. And the fact that so much suffering can be ameliorated when we pull it off. I cannot give it up for those reasons. I love mankind, this planet, and the multitude of beautiful life forms that live here. I MUST support this project no matter what it takes or how long it takes because it is the right thing to do.
I implore you to let us (the audience) help in any way you can think of. Thousands or millions of us doing positive acts that support this project will lift your boats, will put wind in your sails and will make the journey faster and smoother for everyone.
Warmly,
Trish House”
D’s reply; “Thank you Trish- let me tell you- your energy in this email is awesome help to us! For all those people out there wanting to help, I just ask that you hold the energy as we push on through to get this out!!
…. and I return your energy and light with a hug and more light!
With Spirals of Light
D
In Eternal Essence Embodied”
Very nice email Trish…thanks for sharing it with us along with D’s response. I feel just like you…I have to support it because it is RIGHT!!
Rene…I am also suspicious of the so called “new financial system”. I have read that a lot of people that have been sharing intel are also frustrated and now feel like they are being lied to as it’s just one delay after another. I would not be surprised if they are waiting for Heather to release the I UV Inchange to release the so called “new financial system”. It would make perfect sense to try and over shadow what the crew is doing as the immediate relief may be enough to cause some people to accept it and go about their merry business forgetting that it’s far from over until the PTW are actually removed and we are free.
Be Loving! Exactly Right Said They Are Wanting To Keep The Old Sytem Going On And On! They Are Trying To Get A New Ponzi Money Scheme Working - Paying You From Money They Collect And Using Some Of Their ‘Value’ All To Make It Seem Like They Have Money - In Order To Get Back The Power That They Had. Just like A Drug Junkie!
Thank You! Mario
Mario
Thanks for your opinion of heather ( a one woman show ) she is working with many lighted individuals in the higher realms This is Not heathers project buta collective of spirits that are guiding her They will give her the launch date, probably the time of NESARA and rv announcements Don’t expect it any sooner as heather as promised ( may June July ) she has done all this in a collective of lighted spiritual beings Heather has said it was done in may but something has delayed the announcements The banks will get notices in advance and that is what Basel 3 is all about (transparency ) we will not need to fight the banks when weakling to deposit parts of our value. This is all about the collective. We are them, they are us
Love and light to all my brothers and especially to my dear sisters and the Devine feminine energies coming to our world
Jesse
This video confirms that we are governed by Aliens.
An announcement by Paul Hellyer, Canadian Minister who is also a member of the G8, that we are sharing the planet with Aliens. There are 4 species that have been here for thousands of years. They make up the Cabal and include
Three Sisters, Consul of International Relations, Bilderbergers, Trilateral Commission, International Banking Cartel, Oil Cartel, various intelligence organisations, military. They make up the shadow government of much of the Western world and are elected by NO-ONE.
They want total domination over the entire planet.
See this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEQd…uM0eQHegb42D-U
See also:
http://citizenhearing.org/
for a copy of the proceedings.
My last post didn’t appear. Can anyone tell me why please.
Your first link is broken
BR Bosse
Apologies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEQdvYFMBAU&list=WLPcV-LtKuLV1gE11E_muM0eQHegb42D-U
An article I have stumbled upon which gives an alternative view of the machinations of the world’s powers:
A taster:
Within psychological circles, there is a phenomenon known as “learned helplessness.” And from observing many “lightworkers” over the past few years, I’ve noticed a similar phenomenon: learned blindness. For many have been conditioned to believe that to challenge information offered you by smiling beings is an act of “negativity,” and that to feel fear in the presence of new information means the info is “of low vibration” and should be ignored. This has been taught to you so you’ll be unable to detect the actions of our adversaries. And it is not only a form of blindness, but of cowardice as well.
If I can tell you anything I’ve learned from a lifetime of making mistakes, it is this:
Flee your comfort zone. It is a prison.
Seek out what you fear, because that is the place where you need to grow.
When you encounter fear, don’t look away. Look it dead in the eye until you stop wanting to blink.
Stare at it until the fear melts away.
Gaze at it until it makes you want to laugh.
And look away only when you learn to love it.
http://blog.redefininggod.com/2013/07/16/david-wilcock-and-the-real-nwo-part-2-of-2.aspx
Thanks for posting this, Sucheta.
I found this observation very interesting:
“I’ve noticed a similar phenomenon: learned blindness. For many have been conditioned to believe that to challenge information offered you by smiling beings is an act of “negativity”,
Sooo true, imho. It has become one more way of silencing dissent, and at worst as the author says, of preventing the kind of critical thinking/dialogue which would detect/uncover the actions of adversaries. Very interesting analysis of a prevalent dynamic.
T
Beautiful …………… yes, the perception of fear is a catalyst for our spiritual growth. ♥