You Are The Value…

CIRCLE cSM

 

June 1st is the projected launch date of Project 13

 

 

***** Update *****

 

Windows 8 App is Live you can download the app for free http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/search?q=Project+XIII , then follow directions within the app to start your subscription which will be $1 a month after the first 60 days.

 PROJECT XII  Website LIVE ! http://www.projectxiii.com/

American Kabuki interviews Caleb Skinner about Project 13 click here to watch the video

The Official Project 13 Website:

There will be an official website for Project 13. There will be an official spokesperson for the Project 13 Company once the software is released. This page is NOT that official website, release or spokesperson platform.

This page is here to provide access to information as it is understood and offered to the I UV web creative team.

This page Should NOT be confused as the official page for Project 13. That website is Not live yet. When it goes live and we learn of it we will publish the link here.

 

Project 13 is Totally Separate from the I UV Ixchange.

Project 13 is expected to be launched on June 1st.

The P13 software application is a specific tool designed to let people share data back and forth in a secure, non “harvesting” environment. It is designed as a tool to give subscribers a safe secure platform to share their data and to interact with the people they choose to interact with, like they might on Facebook, or other social networking platforms. It is designed to allow people the space to do that without their data or energy being harvested by the PTW.

When the “mechanism” of the tool known as the I UV Ixchange is released, it will be one of many tools that subscribers of Project 13 can access. By “mechanism” we mean the component that gives people access to their value in a way that is “spendable” and can be used to buy a loaf of bread or purchase a product or pay for a service or an experience.

Project 13 software is a valuable tool to do exactly what it is designed to do. People will want to subscribe to Project 13 because they want to make use of the unique functions it provides. 

The I UV Ixchange is totally separate from Project 13, although when it’s rolled out, Project 13 will be an access point for it.

 

The following information is being updated as the web team becomes apprised.

Dates, devices, etc. may change moment-by-moment. Please stay tuned.

 

The following platforms will be compatible at the projected  launch:

1) Windows Mobile App

2) Silverlight program for Windows PC, and Mac OS (computers, not the mobile phones)- Possibly Delayed ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Silverlight to download the platform free from Cnet click here

3) iPhone/iPad App ( available for download in the iTunes App Store on June 1st ) – Heather announced 5.28.13 that iPhone takes 30% of every transaction that you’ll do on your Ixchange using the iPhone app.

 

Once you have the device, you’ll need to download the Project 13 software from your device application store.

The Project 13 app will be free.

The next step is to go to the Project 13 web site to set up an account and become a subscriber, in order to use the Project 13 software.

The cost to subscribe will be 1 unit of money per month: US$1, 1 Euro, 1 Yen, etc. Initially it will be US$1 per month until currencies are added.

Once you have a subscriber account, you’ll be provided a code or a ‘key’ necessary to activate the Project 13 software on your device.

You will be able to use your Project 13 user account on multiple devices that run the Project 13 platform.

For those who want to know, there will be a link on the Project 13 site to learn about the security protocol behind the software called VEXS or Virtual Extension of Self Protocol.

 

Tutorials:

Because the I-UV web team has not seen an advanced copy of the Project 13 software, we’re presently unable to develop the user guidelines, which we had hoped to publish for you at the moment of launch.

When the software does launch, we’ll learn the program as fast as we can and produce the tutorials as fast as we can. These tutorials will offer step-by-step instructions on getting started.

Until then, since many are unfamiliar with some of the Project 13-compatible devices, here are some basic tutorials to get you up to speed on the device of your choice prior to the roll out on June 1st.

Note:
87% of world population has a mobile phone according to stats last update in 2011. The stats probably do not take into account some people with no phones and some with more that one phone… some who have phone but can not afford to have it currently active.

It is probably a good bet that most of those are simple phones, not the smart phones needed to run Project 13 or the I UV Ixcahnge. Still its a good percentage and when spreading the word about the I UV Ixchange will make it a wee bit easier as the % of people with no cell phones is not huge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_mobile_phones_in_use

 

Windows Phone Tutorial: Getting started with Windows Phone 8

 

iPhone 101: Getting started with iOS 4

 

Apple iPhone 5 Getting Started

 

What is Silverlight? (Part 1/2)

 

How To Download and Install Apps On iPhone or iPod Touch

 

How to Download Apps on a Windows Phone – O2 Guru TV

 

The Missing Windows 8 Instructional Video…

 

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967 Responses to “You Are The Value…”

  1. Sam says :

    I hear you..and the irritation and circumvention of direct questions when confronted by the likes of listeners such as Isa.

    I think we need to ‘let it go’.

    I would think this is natural progression happening here. If it doesn’t resonate entirely, perhaps people pay more energy to people like Chris Hales who CLEARLY treads on eggshells around Lisa’s MONSTROUS ego. Heather slaps him down all time too when he’s simply trying his darndest to make their guff intelligible to the 3D hordes they purport to want to ‘free’. I won’t be signing up to Project 13, however ‘cool’ a tool it is.

    As a final aside, people, if it does launch, I would STRONGLY suggest you consider the issue of child pornography. It’s been touched on before and rather alarmingly, and somewhat naively, brushed aside. Any web based platform that allows for totally secure transfer of data of any kind is going to be a honey-pot for those that wish to transfer abusive imagery, videos and the like.

    It’s a SERIOUS concern, and altruistic libertarians cite the fact these types of people will use any and all other means regardless to traffic porn…that said…to knowingly create a secure encrypted system in the name of our liberties, which will absolutely become a conduit for this material with a nanosecond of it being released, as a community, I would urge folks to press caleb to consider this and ask if there are certain remedies to combat that from an administrative perspective. Yes it sounds like the ‘Nanny state’ mentality we all hate (and i’ll get accused of trolling no doubt too – or ‘negativity’) but it was my immediate concern and I was going to wait for release to bring it up.

    I see how ‘woolly’ the thinking is of some of the followers of this movement, and the outright good hearts of the many who simply fail to see how this would “attract those types” etc etc…that’s dangerous. It will almost attract ‘those types’ and none of you will be any the wiser because they will be doing it without your knowledge. Please please I’m asking from a good place..not telling….just consider this issue down the line as a potential abuse that none of you will want to see.

    • John says :

      It would also be a magnet for terrorists. A means of communicating that the governments of the world cannot access. Which is one of the reasons it will not be tolerated by them (and I’m no advocate of government snooping).

    • Trish House says :

      Sam, I listened to the audio and while I appreciate the willingness of all of them to take the time to talk to us I was not impressed with Moxie whose tone was harsh and scornful most of the time, but also her & their data was not helpful to those of us who were uplifted by the earlier promise of a return of our energy that has been stolen. What was needed was a status report on that energy; where is it?; when will we have access to it?

      My interest in that energy is that it can provide me with power that can help me level the playing field against those who now use position and violence to maintain the status quo. This keeps me in a slave state to some degree. I am very willing to communicate to others that to be free of this oppression we must band together and cooperate with each other to create a system outside the existing one that will gradually starve off the one we don’t want. But there is so much suffering being experienced by so many because of the way things are that a means to speed up the process via access to the energy that has been stolen seems important and vital.

      In earlier radio shows Heather had promised that that energy was secured and was ready for release. It now feels like a sabotage of my energy & my good intent of helping others that she & the other trustees withdraw all communication of knowledge about that subject and to now ignore us, or berate us, for having expectations of them. My energy feels blocked and festering. Was it the intent of Heather, Caleb and the other trustee that started this to create this effect? If so, what was the point? If not, then why not continue to be responsible for those whose energy they engaged with their story of hope and change and do what they can to keep that energy clean and strong with true data about what is happening? If they don’t know what is happening and have lost control of the situation then telling us that would also be maintaining responsibility for the character of our energy and our trust in them.

      • Sam says :

        Apologies – I hadn’t seen your response Trish till now. I completely feel the same. I think all of us here are really of similar mind in terms of a common ground, we just come at things from a different perspective. I like your openness and willingness for discourse. I hope those managing this website can get the message through that some people would like some meaningful updates regarding the movement that was set in motion and the tools that were promised to those that are neither inclined through free choice, or lack of some perceived insight, to care about 5D levels of being right now. Basic respect.

  2. Ken Rankin says :

    The only reality that the OPPT “leaders” are responsible for is their own. As are the rest of us. When each of us realizes that fact personal and group progress will speed up”.Questioning “, that Sonya, John, and others refer to is indeed alright. I have questions of my own, but unlike you, I ask them of people that have the ability to answer them. So, my question for John and Sonya is this, why are you here? What are your expectations ? Do you actually believe that someone here can help you? Do you realize that the questions you are asking can only be answered by people that obviously have no need,desire, or ability to answer them. Do you actually believe that by asking these “questions” that you are “helping” the starving 3d masses? Ask yourself what your agenda here is, then let us know. Finally, negative energy is negative energy no matter what guise it comes under. BS yourself if you must but spare the rest of us that are just trying to grow.

    • John says :

      Ken, I’m “helping the starving 3D masses” by making a significant donation to Oxfam International every month and to our local food bank, not giving my money to new age gurus who claim they no longer have any need for money. I gave Heather the benefit of the doubt back in January, six months later it is becoming abundantly clear what she is.

      • Ken Rankin says :

        Again, why are you here? Move on and put your help where it’s wanted.

        • Trish House says :

          Ken, John explained why he is here in earlier posts. I am glad for you that you are in a position to make significant donations to Oxfam and your local food bank. That must make you feel good. Not all of us have such luxuries or security. You are ignoring the fact that the OPPT “leaders” engaged our energy by promising a return to us of our energy that has been stolen. We, like you, want to help end suffering. If questions are being asked here of other posters it is because we don’t have access to those that created this game. My hope is that by posting here the message will get through to the creators of this web site and they will do something to provide us with data that will allow us to make a right decision about what to do with our energy now. Your lecture at the end of your earlier post has also created judgement and negative energy. Please be kind to those without your advantages.

          • Trish House says :

            Woops! I just realized that it is JOHN who is making the donations to Oxfam and the food bank. Well done John!

            The rest of my comment stands.

          • Ken Rankin says :

            Trish you’re right, I’m new here. But I’m not new to OPPT or the “Ascencion” movement. I came here to see if if anyone could shed”light” on OPPT development, but instead I found people spreading dark and others defending their faith in the light movement. The answers that I’ve gotten and the realizations that I’ve had come from a great number of other sources. Most of those sources’ at least, the credible ones have dried up to a large degree. Intentionally, I’m told. Gives me time to join this thread and share my thoughts and opinions. It’s intentional that I am directing my questions to the members here that are asking the most questions, knowing full well that no . one here can give them an answer that they can accept. My questions specifically are to people that can but won’t address them. The answers to the questions that are being asked do have answers, some of which I believe I have, I’ve spent something like 75 gigs in downloads to get them. But in the end, I was directed to them from the most unlikely sources. I believe that all answers are available to the sincere seeker. If they sincerely believe that they will come from here, so be it. I personally believe that they are not sincere seekers and in fact have another agenda. My question remains to them, why are they here?

          • Ken Rankin says :

            Help me out here Trish, I scrolled through posts to top of page. Can’t find John’s explanation. Can you repost it or at least direct me to it?

  3. Ken Rankin says :

    I am one of the 3d people that is in need and I definitely don’t want your help. Anyone else here need John’s type of help?

    • John says :

      So, it’s Heather’s kind of help you need?

    • John says :

      How’s that working out?

      • Ken Rankin says :

        My understanding of the process that the planet is undergoing allows me to appreciate the part that OPPT has and is playing. But it’s just a part and it’s a significant part.but there are others players involved all the dominoes must fall. My belief is that by the time access to value is given, the need will be dealt with already in other ways. But to answer your question, it’s working out fine, Rome was not torn down in a day.

        • Tonia says :

          I agree with you Ken. There are many others working on this process too. I also know that no one can save my soul but ME. I am a victim of the abuse you all are speaking of and I suffered and endured any made my choice to rise above. The things I read and hear about the abuse that runs amok on this planet mostly at the hands of the ptw is angering and heart breaking and the one thing I know for certain is we can’t beat the dark with dark energy. It has to be love and light. We are all responsible to ourselves first and foremost and there is a battle raging on our planet between the dark and light right now and the message I got from my dreams was to ENGAGE and so I have. Peace, love, compassion, understanding and cooperation is what will get us there…in my opinion. I love you ALL!!!

  4. sonya says :

    I agree that more and more people are waking up to the reality of the way our 3D world is controlled, and to other dimensional possibilities.

    It concerns me, however, to see it suggested that this is all thanks to the OPPT. Many thousands of dedicated individuals have been working tirelessly for decades in whichever way they can, to sustain and further that process of ‘awareness’ (I don’t really like ‘awakening’ , it tends to create a ‘them and us’ division). The OPPT initiative may well have helped make some more people aware, but, Peter, please speak for yourself. If you believe TOP has saved your soul, that is great, but I do not subscribe to your view that they have saved mine.

    The rising collective awareness is the result of a massive and sustained effort by many dedicated people over decades. To write that off as insignificant is, in my opinion, to deny the truth, nor do I yet see any tangible evidence that anything has been ‘saved’.

    Although it has been stated that the governments, banks and corporations have been foreclosed on – to all intents and purposes they still seem to be functioning as before … so it seems, from my vantage point at least, that very little, if anything, has changed so far in our 3D reality.

    It seems to me that many people have totally bought into this despite a lack of any real tangible evidence, because they want it to be true. That’s their free choice which I respect, but wanting something to be true doesn’t make it true, and if we want it to be true badly enough we may override our common sense and ignore anything which doesn’t fit with our hope-based belief. I respect everyone’s right to do that – to believe whatever they choose. I just don’t accept their claims that they are right and others who see things differently are wrong.

    Hope is not fact.

    At the moment I personally sense there is something of a collective ‘guru’ projection going on – and a ‘herd’ mentality which says that anyone who is questioning or has concerns/doubts are just spiritually inferior because they don’t get it. In my experience that kind of dynamic is unhealthy, it’s what happens in cults and has nothing at all to do with genuine ‘spirituality’ which sees each embodiment as equal, precious and absolutely free to have their own unique experience and express themselves freely, as long as no harm is done to another.

    If people don’t like seeing questions and concerns raised, or criticisms made, that is their stuff and it’s up to them to deal with it.

    Again I ask, what is it about questions and criticisms that you are afraid of? If you had total faith in this project it couldn’t affect you in any negative way.

    As it stands – no-one has been able to answer some extremely simple and very important questions which have been raised on this thread, which is interesting in itself.

    From a basic level of simple courtesy, at least an update should have been provided.
    If someone invited you to dinner and they weren’t home when you turned up because they had gone away on a jolly and hadn’t bothered to tell you – wouldn’t you say they should have let you know?

    They had the time and enough access to the internet to write asking for donations for BZ – so there’s no reason why they couldn’t have taken 5 minutes to post an update, as basic courtesy says they should have done?

    I don’t know where they are nor what they are doing……nor indeed who is funding all this for them because it isn’t cheap to do what they are doing and, according to what they themselves said, they were all broke just a few weeks ago. And clearly, despite what they say to others, they cannot manifest hard cash because they have to keep asking their ‘followers’ for that when they need it. I think there have been requests for donations for at least 4 of them now.

    Hi Peter, With all respect it’s great that you believe TOP has saved your soul, but please speak for yourself because I don’t share your view that they have saved mine. :)

  5. sonya says :

    It’s always good to be aware of the Delphi technique.

    http://www.vlrc.org/articles/110.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rjoI7-esOw

  6. Jesse says :

    In observing these fair open and honest exchanges of opinions, everyone is entitled to their ideas and beliefs and Ken should not be judge mental of others open ideas and beliefs.

    If you don’t like others opinions then maybe it is you who should leave this blog I enjoy everyone’s opinions and respect them for their contributions to this conversation as to whether heather and Caleb Brian D are frauds or not Time will certainly give us the answer , and we will have to wait and see So far their statements as to the I page with value and a safe environment for free and open exchanges have not materialized. We need the original 13 th amendment back into our constitution that lawyers cannot hold public office and be bidders for their bribe paying masters I have much empathy for Chris Hales who tries to make this movement respectable and honest Heather and Lisa have been very hard on Chris whom I respect very much Time will give us our answers so let’s let this thing play out I love you all for your contributions to this movement : )

    • Ken Rankin says :

      Judgemental? Yea, I am. Are you, is John, is Sonya? Is anyone here not?

      • sonya says :

        Ken,

        I don’t know whether TOP is genuine or not, that’s one reason why I am here. I’ve never said it wasn’t, nor am I completely persuaded it is. At first I was 95% behind it. Since then questions have arisen in my mind which have created reservations – for me, in my own mind.

        You ask why I am posting here. Here is my reply to your question:

        I am posting here because it is an open forum for open comments/discussion about the specific subject I’m interested in. I also chose to write my questions and reservations here because I thought that ( a) Heather et all might read this thread and address people’s issues, or (b) that comments made here may be passed on to them, and replies passed back, or (c) one of the moderators may have more information and be able to provide some kind of relevant information, or (d) one of the other readers may be able to provide some of the information or present a different angle which would either resolve an issue for me or take my thinking on it further.

        I have not tried to force anyone to agree with me, nor have I criticised anyone for having different beliefs.

        At this point I have no expectations of Heather and crew, I am interested enough to choose to stay connected to the process and observe the developments to see how it all unfolds.

        I also very much appreciate reading other people’s views and the exchanges I’ve had with many other lovely people of like mind and who I resonate with.

        After my first couple of posts, for the most part I’ve defended my right to express my questions and doubts here, in response to comments made by one or two.

        So, Ken, since I’ve answered your question, and since you suggested I should leave this forum, let me now ask you a couple of questions:

        Why do you consider your contributions to this thread to be of greater value than mine?

        Why do you think you have the right to express yourself, but wish to deny me that same right?

        Who am I harming by expressing my questions and reservations?

        “You are ignoring the fact that the OPPT “leaders” engaged our energy by promising a return to us of our energy that has been stolen. We, like you, want to help end suffering. If questions are being asked here of other posters it is because we don’t have access to those that created this game. My hope is that by posting here the message will get through to the creators of this web site and they will do something to provide us with data that will allow us to make a right decision about what to do with our energy now.”

        For the most part, after the first one or two, my posts have been more about me defending my right to express my questions and reservations.

        Today I read your invitation to John and myself to leave this forum. So I now have a question for you.

        .

        I

  7. Ken Rankin says :

    Save souls, child pornography!!! OPPT found and claimed usurped money, recognized the method of theft, created documents to correct the problem, and filed them. They are not courts, they are not police, they are not banks, they are not Congress, they are not the military, Recognize them for their part and contribute if you can and want or realize that there’s other scenario’s that need to be played out. The good thing is that there actually are people that have both the desire and ability to put the teeth in the filings. And they are indeed working on it. There are subtle hints available. But there will be no media coverage or even internet coverage until the timings right. OPPT’s part is indeed done, but it’s just one part and actually a fairly small one. I say again, try to create positive energy and get ready.

  8. Trish House says :

    Regarding the concern of child pornography and other negative elements using Project XIII’s platform for their nefarious activities; I believe that when we have freed people from the system of slavery they will ultimately choose better options. This long history of humanity living in a slavery system has created insanity in many of us. We have all been practicing aberrant behavior by living as slaves and our culture is saturated with long established habits and traditions of a master/slave society. It will take some time for us to reprogram ourselves to living as free beings. I believe that the majority of us, at least 80%, still have good impulses and will work to help each other make a better world for all. Many do so even without the restoration of our stolen energy and even though it is difficult to achieve in a culture that is still mostly dedicated to people surviving as slaves or masters.

    What we have now is a system that pretends to police child pornography, drug trade, and terrorism while allowing it to continue, and while covertly creating an environment that fosters such behavior. I believe that our best hope of changing our culture for the better is through freeing the slaves and containing the masters. Free people will police their own environment and will cull out or repair those that are addicted to aberrant behavior and can’t stop even though they are living in an environment that is free of the pressures that drove them to do what they do.

    • John says :

      But, Trish, what entity is going to label child pornography aberrant, create laws against it, and enforce those laws to “repair” those who violate them? Most of us are opposed to child pornography, but what about other behavior that we don’t consider bad, but other’s might? You are heading down a slippery slope back into slavery.

      • Ken Rankin says :

        Do you have answers? You won’t even answer my questions yet you require OPPT to answer much larger and more difficult questions.

      • Trish House says :

        John, those of us who believe that child pornography is based on harming children will enforce them. The children will be protected and the harmers will be shunned or contained. A free society cannot be so free that it permits some to harm others without restraint. A free people have to be responsible enough to be willing to restrain those that hurt others if they will not be repaired.

  9. Lisi McFenn says :

    “The Law of Chaos is that Law which states that chaos exists when the observing mind can NOT accept what is. The Law of Order exists when the observing mind can accept what is, regardless of the appearance of chaos.”

    “When the individual, the entity, the vibratory rate, the force, begins to move toward its own personal growth and fruition, in expressing itself through its own Will and volition, through its own creative energies, there comes a time when that force becomes aware of resistances to its energies whereby the force becomes aware that its energies and its expression is being hindered. This is the beginnings of the Law of Cause and Effect.”

    “The Law of Gratitude is that sense of satisfaction where energy that has been given receives a certain reward. Energy that is given moves out on that curved and unequal line and, when extended far enough, can only return to its source bearing gifts. The Law of Love and Law of Gratitude express the action of generosity and affection and allow entities to cast their bread upon the waters of life without knowing where, how, when, or if it shall return to them.”

    “The Law of Co-Creation – The Law of Co-Creation states that two working in co-creative action have the power of four working individually; and three working in co-creative activity have the power of sixteen; and one-hundred and forty-four working in harmony can change the world. When large groups of entities believe and agree on certain images as being real and being stable, this agreement does hold the power of many times that number of energies, if such energies were held by individuals working separately. When groups of entities agree upon certain images, these images do tend to manifest and hold their being in a magnified manner.”

    “The Law of Patience – The Law of Patience states that all things must have their time and their season whereby they may work their action to proper fruition.”

    “The Law of Thought – Energy follows thought; those who wish to energize, need only to direct their thoughts toward that target which needs energizing.”

    “The Law of Vibration – The Law of Vibration states that any vibration which is sent out for good and service, increases into higher frequencies as it moves through space, until it returns to its origin, bringing gifts of those higher frequencies. Forces drawing on vibration for selfish purposes…drawing these forces into themselves, will receive vibrations that decrease in their frequency level, moving into lower frequencies as they enter into one’s Being, requiring that the Being get another “fix” of incoming vibration and energy, then another and another, as though one were addicted. Magnetism, the drawing of energy, decreases the vibratory rate, while Radiance, the giving forth of energy, increases the vibratory rate. When entities radiate good, those energies increase into higher frequencies and bring back good. When entities send forth selfish energies, those energies bring back lower vibrational forces.”

    (from The Universal Laws)

  10. Al50 says :

    Reading all this comments are great, it just shows where a lots of us are in our awakening, awareness, our prospectives, they are all Valid, and part of the wonderful process, this forum is helping us more than much of us knows,or realize lol, because it is giving us a reflection of who we are, the many personality constructs, many different prospectives and believe systems, that we as souls in a Human body on this planet has gathered to form this image we call ourself, our me, our opinions, our selfs in the now moment.. soon it will bring us to the place in our awareness where we can recognize, we are all talking to ourselves, there is really no one else here but you, by whatever names you choose to call your self, john Lisa, ken, Trish, etc etc we are all part of ALL THAT IS /God manifesting himself. a returning from darkness/ignorance to the light/knowing who we really are, the truth is we all want the same thing, we all will realize it soon enough. just think of the joy we feel looking at kids in the play ground trying to sort out what game they are going to play and why,and who’s going play this part and that part, dose it not make you smile to see how to them is seems so serious at the time?…then one day they all grows up look back at those moments and have a good laugh ?………so just let this moment help us shed some of all this weight we are carrying around thinking it must be this way or that way, you are wrong I am right, we or them, this or that. it’s really this and that, we and them, your point of few and my point of few,,, it’s all valid,,, we are just growing up together, waking up together, discovering, and discovering, we are all on this journey together heading in the same direction, and that , we are all ONE…….Much Love…..

  11. Ken Rankin says :

    I’ve enjoyed my time here but I believe It’s been counterproductive to my own personal growth so I’m moving on. Don’t pin hopes of your future on any outside entity, you must look within. I truly believe that our future is bright and full of light. But manifest it for yourself.

    • Tonia says :

      Hey Ken. I so understand how you feel and have to support your decision but want you to know some of us miss you here!!! Love & Light to you Ken.

  12. John says :

    Ken, the world is full of darkness and light. Never hide from the darkness. Without darkness, light would not be visible.

  13. Lisi McFenn says :

    NOTE:
    “Sonya” initially entered this discussion on June 5th, TEN DAYS after it had started, and hasn’t let up since. If you read these replies sequentially without stopping, they’re easier to analyze. Do these responses sound to you like someone who does NOT have a stake in denouncing the I-UV’s potential? Note also the self-contradictions throughout. For example, if this person “avidly and enthusiastically” followed the developments “since December of last year” (5th reply), then WHY is this person only jumping into the conversation nearly two WEEKS after it had already started??? Any person as genuinely interested as this person purports to be would have been keeping up with the site before this discourse began.

    This person vacillates between insisting s/he is “open minded” (10th reply), and declares that s/he “absolutely BELIEVES” that real remedy one day “WILL happen” (20th reply), and nearly every reply being a diatribe undermining the “I UV exchange, CVAC, Project 13, RV, etc. – “just not sure we are at that point with OPPT,” “sadly, I am now feeling increasingly uncomfortable about this whole thing.” – “so many promises but nothing yet materialised…I feel very sad to say, etc…” “If you had total faith in this project it couldn’t affect you negatively.” Also, this person is likely of British origin, note the spelling in “materialised”. The technique seems to be to DISS everything connected with this site specifically, then to rebut any responses to the disparaging remarks with heavy duty negative statements or to induce guilt and continually reference fears, in one breath bashing “oneness” by implying anyone who disagrees is instead practicing “uniformity”, while in the next breath quoting Buddah. Lot of inconsistencies. What’s also interesting is the heavy laying on of guilt about others not relaxing “and letting others BE” or of anyone asserting “spiritual superiority” while then going on to psychoanalyze responses in very negative terms (ex: “passive-aggressive, etc.”). In its entirety, this reads like an unrelenting, unnecessarily argumentative, campaign. But notice when an apology is forthcoming, how this person then “makes nice” for a bit. (Very disingenuous.) Only to return with further barrages on new incoming comments. Notice the vacillation between agreeableness and disagreeableness which appears to coincide with playing along with the other commentators, and harping on and on about “being suppressed”.and others not “respecting free will,” Does not appear to realize OPPT has been retired. Also, the languaging throughout seems contrived and overemphasized. I’ve not heard many people use the term “bona fide” unless they worked in a law office. (Not included is the “NESARA” announcement – an attempt at believability?) Taken altogether, this seems very TROLLISH. What do you all think?

    [entries are in date order]:

    Very FIRST entry from “Sonya” (TEN DAYS after the thread started):

    sonya says :REPLY
    June 5, 2013 at 7:08 am

    “A progress update from the PXIII team would be much appreciated.

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    2nd entry from “Sonya”:

    sonya says :REPLY
    June 5, 2013 at 8:19 pm
    I UV exchange, CVAC, Project 13, RV – so many promises but nothing yet materialised…. I feel very sad to say this but it’s starting to look like more of the same old, same old, same old……. (fill in the blank).

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    3rd entry from “Sonya”:
    sonya says :REPLY
    June 7, 2013 at 10:34 am
    These are important questions and, to date, as far as I am aware, no-one has been able to give a cohesive answer, yet if all is bona fide, these should be simple matters to clear up.

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    4th entry from “Sonya”:

    sonya says :REPLY
    June 7, 2013 at 8:20 am
    Your argument, Kenrick, to be valid, must surely also apply to you. Therefore, doesn’t it follow that what you believe you are seeing in John is, also, merely a reflection of your own perception?

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    5th reply from “Sonya”:

    sonya says :REPLY
    June 7, 2013 at 7:21 am
    I have followed this thing since December last year when it first appeared on the internet. When I first read about it I did get a huge ‘energetic’ response. Since then, like many others, I have avidly and enthusiastically followed the developments, articles, radio shows, etc. It seemed exquisite that the PTW had been defeated by their own system of slavery. Sweet justice indeed.

    I say this to illustrate that I’m not some sceptic unable to respond to something positive.

    However, and sadly, I am now feeling increasingly uncomfortable about this whole thing. Certain things are jumping out at me and seeming just not to add up.

    Me too, am sorry to see people on this thread being criticised and put down for not being ‘positive’, because they are questioning things. Just want to remind people that that’s a typical cult dynamic. Criticism is not welcomed in cults. To those critics of the critics, I would ask them why they are not respecting others’ free will to question, doubt or disagree? What is it which makes them feel the need to assert their own opinion as superior and demean those who don’t share those opinions? Is that their understanding of ‘eternal essence absent limits’, of acting in love and respecting ‘free will’?

    Ironically, some seem to believe that ‘oneness’ means ‘uniform’ – ie. that we should all perceive things in the same way and have exactly the same opinions, and those that don’t, just don’t understand and are therefore treated as inferior. That is pretty dangerous thinking, imho, and is exactly what the alleged gubberments of this world and trying to impose by force on the peoples of our world at this very moment.

    (I keep losing my text from the comments box so I’ll post this in sections, lol.)

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    6th reply from “Sonya”:

    sonya says :REPLY
    June 7, 2013 at 7:31 am
    A teaching from the Buddha (paraphrased):

    “Never rely on blind faith, heresay or the opinions of others or the herd mentaility. There are three steps to the development of faith. First, there is a positive intuitive response to something or someone. One feels drawn to it. The second stage is to then submit it to rigorous intellectual scrutiny. If you are satisfied that it holds up to rigorous intellectual scrutiny, and it still seems sound, then test its validity out in your experience as scrupulously as a goldsmith tests metal for gold. If it still seems sound, then and only then do you put your faith in it.”

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    7th reply from “Sonya”:

    sonya says :REPLY
    June 7, 2013 at 8:15 am
    They can be distinct, but are not necessarily so. Perhaps it would be more relevant to define ‘negativity’……if we were to do so we would surely find that most often it is only one’s own perception which defines something as negative. Often people will define as negative something they don’t want to hear, and imho they may not want to hear it because it makes them uncomfortable or it may trigger a fear response in them. Is that a reason to suppress expression?

    From the point of view of ‘absolute data’, and according to Heather’s own stated principles, and if if OPPT is genuine and of pure intent, what harm can it do to anything if some people express doubts in it or criticise it or question it?

    It seems to me there is much more harm to be done by attempting to suppress honest, harmless discussion.

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    8th reply from “Sonya”:

    sonya says :REPLY
    June 7, 2013 at 9:12 am
    Once again – not necessarily, lol <3

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    9th reply from "Sonya":

    sonya says :REPLY
    June 7, 2013 at 7:54 am
    Here’s something I don’t understand. During the radio shows, whenever anyone has asked about ‘tangible’ value – ie. hard cash being available to prevent their foreclosure, feed their children, put a roof over their head, the response seems invariably to have been that when we know we are eternal essence absent limit, and when we are ‘BEing and DOing’, we simply manifest what we need. I have in mind something Heather said quite recently in this regard, and when I have time I will search out that quote.

    So – that being the case, why is it that there have been requests for donations of hard cash for AK, D’s computer and now BZ and also a subscription for Project 13

    It’s not that I mind donating and/or paying for a service, I don’t and I would willingly pay more to allow others to access something valuable…. it’s just that this anomalous to me. Doesn’t this suggest that Heather and the crew seem to be saying one thing and doing another?

    I hear what some are saying regarding the need for there to be an exchange of value – but the only people who seem to be requesting hard cash as part of that exchange of value are the very people who are also saying others shouldn’t need hard cash because if they know who they really are, they will manifest everything they need.

    I accept that I may have missed an important point here – but please don’t ask me to override my common sense. Remember there is an intense war against common sense being waged across the planet by the cabal as part of their mind offensive.

    This is just one question I am pondering and which, as yet, has not passed my scrutiny test……… and an airy fairy ‘you don’t understand eternal essence absent limits’ just won’t cut it for me. Perhaps I do understand, and perhaps that is why I am pondering this question.

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    10th reply from "Sonya":

    sonya says :REPLY
    June 7, 2013 at 8:47 am
    Yes, I’m still open minded – and nothing would make me happier than to see the PTW toppled and an end to the terrible and un-necessary suffering in the world, but as yet I see no real sign of that happening. We have seen the odd success story from people using the CN’s – and that’s excellent, but still just a tiny drop in the ocean compared to the scale of suffering which needs to be remedied.

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    11th reply from "Sonya":

    sonya says :REPLY
    June 7, 2013 at 8:56 am
    I’m not sure how the Swissindo thing would explain why Heather et all seem to tell people that they don’t need cash – that they need to BE and DO eternal essence absent limits and they will manifest what they need, while at the same time they are asking (and in the most recent example asking with an ‘URGENT’ tag) for cash to help once again rescue a member of the crew.

    The argument put forward for asking for donations was that if BZ doesn’t receive the cash, this website will fold. I mean – with all their powers of manifestation, and with the alleged ability to underwrite a global RV to the tune of billions of dollars, I find it hard to believe that they would have no choice but to let a website, which they perceive as core to the initiative to change the world, fold and therefore jeopardise the initiative because they can’t manifest what they need for it to stay active.

    Am I missing something here?

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    12th reply from "Sonya":

    sonya says :REPLY
    June 7, 2013 at 8:32 am
    When there was a groundswell of positivity, that was fully and totally embraced as valid. If there is now a groundswell of questions and/or criticisms, shouldn’t that be embraced as valid too? Until there is irrefutable tangible evidence one way or the other, like you, I will be holding both and watching to see how things develop.

    I don’t personally agree with the ‘xmas’ analogy – there are many people who are suffering terribly and who desperately need help, and a carrot has been dangled in front of them.

    If we are each to take responsibility for our actions – and again, Heather claims to do this – we can’t ignore the important point that many promises have been made, some of which, when questioned, have been obfuscated – and people who believed in those promises and who desperately needed the assistance promised are feeling disappointed. Heather and crew did definitely raise those expectations, they didn’t come from nowhere, and so they are answerable……and some of that same crew are now asking for financial assistance from the rest of us. Something is just not adding up for me right now.

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    13th reply from "Sonya":

    sonya says :REPLY
    June 7, 2013 at 8:41 am
    If Heather can allegedly underwrite the RV to the tune of billions of dollars and thereby make it happen, why can’t she underwrite BZ’s rent on a supa dupa apartment for her?

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    14th reply from "Sonya" (replying to Kendrick):

    (Kenrick says :REPLY
    June 7, 2013 at 8:54 am
    Sonya It was not an argument, that’s ego. Its an observation which could be wrong. At the end of the day what will be will be. That statement validates it self. The choice is a state of balance is necessary in to be in harmony. Or you can Fight the Illusion. Relax and be at Peace.)

    sonya says :REPLY
    June 7, 2013 at 9:05 am
    Ok, it wasn’t an argument, it was a statement. But I think my point is still valid….in that what you perceive in others is also a reflection of your inner self.

    I do agree with you that balance and harmony are necessary, I just don’t agree that people expressing questions our doubts, courteously an respectfully, is ego or negative or an indication of lack of balance or harmony.

    Relax and let others’ be.

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    15th reply from "Sonya":

    sonya says :REPLY
    June 7, 2013 at 9:10 am
    In time we’ll see how it all pans out.

    For me the good thing about a situation such as this is the interactions with some lovely, genuine, sincere, like-hearted people. Thanks Lisa and John, I’ve enjoyed and appreciated your interactions and your energies very much.

    Love to you both – and to everyone

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    16th reply from "Sonya" (responding to Al50):

    sonya says :REPLY
    June 7, 2013 at 6:11 pm
    With the greatest of respect, questioning IS positive. What have you built so far with the energy and love and hope and prayers you refer to? How many people has that fed? How many people’s lives have you saved? How many wars have you stopped? And please show me ONE poster who has suggested they want to retain the old system? You use the word ‘return’, and my use of the word ‘retain’ here is deliberate, because as of yet I haven’t seen the old system’s demise. I wish that were not so.

    I have to say I’m quite bemused, even a little shocked, that so many people who profess to understand and support the OPPT initiative do not wish to allow others their free will expression of questions and doubts, and at the same time claim some kind of spiritual superiority. Can’t you see the paradox in that?

    Why do questions and doubts bother you? What fear of yours does it touch on?

    Can’t you see that those of us who have expressed questions and doubts ARE acting in love and coming from the light.

    Can’t you see that the desire to suppress honest dialogue and different points of view is all about a wish to control others – which is the very essence of the current slavery system?

    Consider this quote by Voltaire: “I disagree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” ?

    Isn’t that more in keeping with the spirit of true freedom and love?

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    17th reply from "Sonya":

    sonya says :REPLY
    June 7, 2013 at 6:53 pm
    Good god! People put all sorts of spin on what others write. Lisa, I am not worrying or anxious. I am simply asking questions and expressing reservations. Why does that bother you so much? What fears of yours are being triggered?

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    18th reply from "Sonya":

    sonya says :REPLY
    June 7, 2013 at 7:58 pm
    No offence taken, Lisa, thank you. I can genuinely empathise with you being an ‘empath’, and taking on other people’s energies. Believe it or not, lol, I used to have the same experience, had been like that all my life. However, a few months ago I read an article which explained that empaths need to be able to switch off their empathy in order to stop it ‘running amok’ (no criticism intended), – and since I learned to do that it has made a huge difference to me. Before that I felt like a sponge – absorbing all the energies around me because my ever-present tendency to empathy, which I had no control over, left me wide open for that. The difference has been amazing.

    I agree, nothing is wrong with ‘wait and see’ and that’s exactly what I am doing….. and in the meantime I’ve engaged in some enjoyable dialogue with some lovely people on here, and am also defending my right to express questions and reservations because a few posters have wanted to suppress that dialogue.

    I have no problem at all if people disagree or don’t share my views – but, when I have the time and energy, I will always rebut any suggestion that I should remain silent because questions/reservations are ‘negative’. Frankly, I think that’s nonsense, and I agree with you that questioning is how we learn and understand, and it’s also how we sort out the wheat from the chaff. Reservations I have expressed may prove to be unfounded, which would be excellent, but they may also yet prove to be valid….at this point there are few, if any tangibles to rely on, and I also believe that it’s through dialogue that we learn to think for ourselves instead of relying on others.

    For sure, some of the I-UV crew would be in a position to give informed answers to some of the questions, but, as you say, at the moment they aren’t doing that – and I also find it very valuable to discuss things with others, and see what questions, if any, they have.

    With love.

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    19th reply from "Sonya":

    sonya says :REPLY
    June 7, 2013 at 8:01 pm
    ps. Apologies for mis-spelling your name – again, Lisi.

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    20th reply from "Sonya":

    sonya says :REPLY
    June 7, 2013 at 9:19 am
    If all the genuine different alternative truth groups came together and acted as one on a solution which could truly provide real remedy, it would be fantastic.

    I’m just not sure whether I currently believe we are at that point with OPPT. However, I remain open and hope my doubts prove to be unfounded, because nothing would make me happier. I absolutely believe, however, KNOW even, that one day that WILL happen.

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    21st reply from "Sonya":

    sonya says :REPLY
    June 7, 2013 at 12:34 pm
    I was talking to a man, he told me his name was Godot – he seemed very informed and said to just keep waiting…..

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    22nd reply from "Sonya":

    sonya says :REPLY
    June 8, 2013 at 9:53 am
    I agree that more and more people are waking up to the reality of the way our 3D world is controlled, and to other dimensional possibilities.

    It concerns me, however, to see it suggested that this is all thanks to the OPPT. Many thousands of dedicated individuals have been working tirelessly for decades in whichever way they can, to sustain and further that process of ‘awareness’ (I don’t really like ‘awakening’ , it tends to create a ‘them and us’ division). The OPPT initiative may well have helped make some more people aware, but, Peter, please speak for yourself. If you believe TOP has saved your soul, that is great, but I do not subscribe to your view that they have saved mine.

    The rising collective awareness is the result of a massive and sustained effort by many dedicated people over decades. To write that off as insignificant is, in my opinion, to deny the truth, nor do I yet see any tangible evidence that anything has been ‘saved’.

    Although it has been stated that the governments, banks and corporations have been foreclosed on – to all intents and purposes they still seem to be functioning as before … so it seems, from my vantage point at least, that very little, if anything, has changed so far in our 3D reality.

    It seems to me that many people have totally bought into this despite a lack of any real tangible evidence, because they want it to be true. That’s their free choice which I respect, but wanting something to be true doesn’t make it true, and if we want it to be true badly enough we may override our common sense and ignore anything which doesn’t fit with our hope-based belief. I respect everyone’s right to do that – to believe whatever they choose. I just don’t accept their claims that they are right and others who see things differently are wrong.

    Hope is not fact.

    At the moment I personally sense there is something of a collective ‘guru’ projection going on – and a ‘herd’ mentality which says that anyone who is questioning or has concerns/doubts are just spiritually inferior because they don’t get it. In my experience that kind of dynamic is unhealthy, it’s what happens in cults and has nothing at all to do with genuine ‘spirituality’ which sees each embodiment as equal, precious and absolutely free to have their own unique experience and express themselves freely, as long as no harm is done to another.

    If people don’t like seeing questions and concerns raised, or criticisms made, that is their stuff and it’s up to them to deal with it.

    Again I ask, what is it about questions and criticisms that you are afraid of? If you had total faith in this project it couldn’t affect you in any negative way.

    As it stands – no-one has been able to answer some extremely simple and very important questions which have been raised on this thread, which is interesting in itself.

    From a basic level of simple courtesy, at least an update should have been provided.
    If someone invited you to dinner and they weren’t home when you turned up because they had gone away on a jolly and hadn’t bothered to tell you – wouldn’t you say they should have let you know?

    They had the time and enough access to the internet to write asking for donations for BZ – so there’s no reason why they couldn’t have taken 5 minutes to post an update, as basic courtesy says they should have done?

    I don’t know where they are nor what they are doing……nor indeed who is funding all this for them because it isn’t cheap to do what they are doing and, according to what they themselves said, they were all broke just a few weeks ago. And clearly, despite what they say to others, they cannot manifest hard cash because they have to keep asking their ‘followers’ for that when they need it. I think there have been requests for donations for at least 4 of them now.

    Hi Peter, With all respect it’s great that you believe TOP has saved your soul, but please speak for yourself because I don’t share your view that they have saved mine."

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    Well, this is my "honest, harmless discussion." Who are you really, "Sonya"? Do you have a "cohesive answer"? "Questioning is positive." "What is it about questions…that you are afraid of?" Perhaps Godot can help you answer all those questions you keep repeating over and over and over ad nauseum, even though you already know nobody on this thread has the answers for you. I think u'r a troll and not a very good one at that.

    • sonya says :

      LISI:
      “Sonya” initially entered this discussion on June 5th, TEN DAYS after it had started, and hasn’t let up since. If you read these replies sequentially without stopping, they’re easier to analyze. Do these responses sound to you like someone who does NOT have a stake in denouncing the I-UV’s potential? Note also the self-contradictions throughout. For example, if this person “avidly and enthusiastically” followed the developments “since December of last year” (5th reply), then WHY is this person only jumping into the conversation nearly two WEEKS after it had already started??? Any person as genuinely interested as this person purports to be would have been keeping up with the site before this discourse began.

      SONYA
      Where is the contradiction?

      It is possible, Lisi, you know, to follow this site daily, and all the others relevant to TOP, read all the articles and comments and not post anything…… why does that escape you?

      Are you seriously suggesting that if someone enters the discussion today, it’s suspect because they didn’t participate in it from the beginning? What kind of logic is that?

      Lisi – I have questions and reservations which I have expressed. I’ve participated in a lively dialogue with a few others about those concerns and I have found that enjoyable and enriching, and I’ve also debated the reactions of some people who perceive my and others’ questions and reservations as negative and want to suppress them.

      If in your world that makes me a troll, so be it, lol. You’re entitled to your opinion. And yes, although I felt very enthusiastic initially, I do now have reservations about TOP. That’s not a crime, unless I am harming someone. Am I harming you or anyone else Lisi?

      As I’ve said already – I hope I am wrong.

      Yes, I do absolutely believe that we will see the demise of the Cabal and their control one day. If I didn’t believe that I would probably be feeling the deepest despair. I find it extremely painful to contemplate the terrible suffering they inflict on others – have you seen the terrible photos of the tragically deformed babies now being born in Iraq as a result of the use of DU weapons? It is utterly heartbreaking.

      I believe there is a rapidly growing awareness of how our world is controlled by these perpetrators of the vilest crimes against innocent people, and in all sorts of ways, in all sorts of contexts, millions of people are doing what they can to push back, say no, and bring about their demise, and along with hundreds of thousands of others, I’ve been doing what I can for years, decades even, since long before the OPPT initiative was ever launched. I believe passionately that with or without the OPPT/TOP initiative, the people of this world will topple the Cabal one day. I see no contradiction there. If this OPPT/TOP initiative is genuine, and is successful, that would make me one of the happiest people on earth. For now I have reservations about it, and the fact that I have expressed those reservations does not suit your liking. It’s as simple as that. Make of it what you want.

    • Tonia says :

      Hey Lisi…how are you today? Just wanted to say “you rock”!! It took an incredible amount of courage, heart and transparency to post this!!! I love reading everything you share because It’s genuine and straight from the heart and not the head where the ego lives and rules. Big hug to you!!!

  14. Lisi McFenn says :

    O yeah “Sonya”, i forgot on thing: maybe u’r disgruntlement with this site and everything it stands for is simply “a perception of your inner self.”

    • sonya says :

      Lol, Lisi. That wasn’t my statement – it was Ken’s, and I was simply pointing out to him that to be valid, the statement HE made had to apply as much to him as anyone else. No doubt there is some truth in what you say, perceptions are ubiquitous little beasties – and by the same token, the same must be true of your perceptions of John and myself, no? That’s the trouble with throwing out criticisms of that sort – they kind of boomerang back at you and you go round in loops. :) But to be clear, I’m not disgruntled with this site – it’s actually not a bad site and there are some lovely people on this thread. I simply have questions and reservations about OPPT/TOP – and you really don’t like that, lol.

      And by the way, yes, I’m from the UK – my spelling makes that very obvious to all…..no brownie points there, Sherlock! But what does that have to do with anything at all?

  15. Lisi McFenn says :

    Point taken, Ken, sorry 2 see u go…

  16. John says :

    Perhaps “Sonya” simply wasn’t aware of this thread until June 5. I’m not sure it really matters, though, what her agenda is. There are only a few of us posting in this thread. What difference will it make in the great expanse of the universe? I would suggest that most people are not following this thread.

  17. John says :

    “I am just a poor boy
    Though my story’s seldom told
    I have squandered my resistance
    For a pocket full of mumbles such are promises
    All lies and jests
    Still a man hears what he wants to hear
    And disregards the rest”

    Simon & Garfunkel – The Boxer

  18. Lisi McFenn says :

    No shiitakes Sherlock. Who wants to converse w/a bunch of downers? Why are u making excuses for “Sonya”? RU a troll too? Sure nothing matters. In the great expanse of the universe, SOME people may actually figure out that their unabating GARBAGE will return one day as their very own dinner. Have fun with that. I think u’r a troll too, u seem to show up about the same time “she” does. Have fun talking to yourself.

  19. John says :

    Light and love to you, too, Lisi.

  20. Lisi McFenn says :

    U’r full of green beans.

  21. Todd says :

    It would be nice if those of you partying it up in Morocco would take a few moments to provide some kind of update about what is going on. It doesn’t take this long to get merchant accounts set up. I’ve been a businessman all my life, mostly self employed and if I ever over promised and under delivered I would always provide detailed reasons why there was a delay.

  22. lisa says :

    Ok, I have to say that the attitude of the so called positive people is a little disturbing. It reminds me of the way the people in the cult I grew up acted. Angry, annoyed and judgmental to anyone who dares to question things. The ‘go elsewhere’ police are mad that people are making them question things they do not want to focus on. Because it obviously must strike some chord in them that they’d like to ignore. I do not believe anyone has been emailing any posters personal email address with questions, it’s a blog online with the intent of sharing viewpoints.

    If I wanted to be scolded for questioning things, I’d go back to the Kingdom Hall thank you very much. It doesn’t matter how long I’ve been on this blog, or when I started commenting or why I am here. My opinions are just as valid as any other beings and I AM within my rights to express it. I’m not attacking anyone, I’m not spamming anyone and nor is anyone on this blog. If the questions raised by certain posters bothers so much, perhaps you should ask yourself why is it striking a chord with you that makes you ‘retaliate’.

    As for the skype session with Moshi or Moxie, however it’s spelled. I did notice she ran right over all the others on the call and was rather in my humble opinion heartless towards the suffering of the many. Her viewpoint that it doesn’t matter what anyone is suffering “I’m only responsible for me, they chose that” I do not personally agree with.

    That is not being the change you wish to see in the world. Nor is it Be’ing and Do’ing it’s Self’in. As in ME MYSELF AND I, tough titty for the rest of you. I do not believe the pushed dogma that the innocent chose everything that happens to them, because that would negate the free will of others right at the outset. There are 7 billion people on this planet, many of who are oppressed. If this was exactly how it was supposed to be, nothing would be broken and there would be nothing to fix. I have no idea where she got that this has been a 2000 year old experiment. Suffering has gone on a lot longer than 2000 years.

    From what she said, the focus has swung to service to self first, versus service to others. I don’t and didn’t need Heather or Caleb to show me my eternal and internal value, shittakes sherlock is right. I already KNEW what my value is. However my eternal and internal value does not PAY MY BILLS OR FEED MY CHILDREN, nor does it help me to help others. It’s hard to focus on meditating and raising your vibration when you can’t hear anything but the rumbling of your own stomach, go tell some child starving to death, look them in the eye and say you ‘you chose this, you can manifest food whenever you believe it’.

    Anyone who can’t feel the import of the words above has lost touch with their spirituality and recognizing we are all connected and should HELP each other. They’ve replaced it with a cabal pushed pile of dogma that states ‘hey we aren’t responsible for what we are doing to you, you chose this, yeah that’s it’. I see a new twist on an old trick. Place blame and responsibility with the innocent and do everything you can to not enable them to actually be humane to each other, care for each other, help each other cause they are all too busy thinking of ME first. I suppose my perspective is different than some here, because I’ve seen this song and dance before, I lived it. I remember being told the bible was the only hope for mankind, while children starved and people didn’t care.

    I’m not that kind of self serving being. I care deeply what happens to my fellow man, woman and child. It’s about my feeling I am taking responsibility for them, it’s about my love for them. Inaction and self reflective spirituality does nothing to foster unity, love and peace, it fosters ego and greed and worse of all, a callous disregard for the suffering of others.

    Heather and Caleb and trustees and the gang should be held responsible for their words and actions or lack there of. I never forced them to say that the value was to be returned to the people, that the I page would be transferrable, etc. etc. Heather and the gang declared they did the most amazing thing on behalf of all humanity, they did it for all of us. That’s a HUGE claim to make. Therefore it is a HUGE claim to uphold and manifest into reality. I do hold them responsible for that. Just as I hold myself responsible for my actions and words. I do many things to help others in a variety of ways, I walk the walk that I talk, I’m only asking the same of people who say they held and hold the power to the freedom and redistribution of value for all of us. If they are not responsible ‘now’ then I have no reason to contribute financially or energetically to what they say and do. If I’m on my own and I should ‘have known that all along’ and should never had paid attention to the promises they made. Well, ok then, that’s fine, I’ll still continue to be me and do all I can personally to the be the change I want to see and being a loving human being. But don’t come asking me to support your trips or members of your movement financially because I’ll take a note from your book and say ‘it’s not my problem, good luck with that’.

  23. Eve says :

    I really don’t get your point Lisi. I am one of those who have been following this thread for over a week, waiting on news re Project 13. This is my first post. If I was easily intimidated, I wouldn’t post at all for fear of being called a troll by you.

    I have also been following the events surrounding OPPT since the end of Dec.

    At first I thought it was hogwash and too good to be true. However, after reading as much as I could on the subject (though I admit I never did totally understand it all) I began to get excited about the potential prospects and ramifications.

    For me, this built to a crescendo when I listened to the show from May 27 (or perhaps the 28th). The was the show that ran to almost 3am in Morocco.

    A caller, who was obviously frustrated by not seeing real tangible results, asked a simple question. When will we all see undeniable proof that this movement is moving forward and there would be financial relief for those hurting the most?

    As usual, as first Heather answered by going on and on about Being and Doing. When the caller did not take this as an answer and asked again for a direct answer, Heather said we all would have proof by the end of that week. The caller said “really?” Heather answered yes that there would be announcements made by the end of the week.

    That conversation took place almost two weeks ago and other than the plea for help for BZ, as far as I know, no one has heard from them since. Oh, and Heather announced that was the last show she would participate in.

    We all know they have access to this forum. If there are people here (myself included) who are getting their panties in a twist for nothing, I would think that one of them would pop on the board to give some reassurances. However, the silence is deafening.

    That leaves me to conclude that either none of them care enough to see what we are thinking and discussing, or that they do know what we are thinking and discussing but don’t care enough to respond. Either way, it sucks.

  24. sonya says :

    That’s truly from the heart, Lisa, and I feel deeply moved by what you have written. And I feel the same as you. And, truly, you are not alone….. there are lots of us out here. Big hug, sista. <3

    • lisa says :

      Big hug back at ya sonya and to everyone. Questioning is not darkness, it is shining light on any area an individual does not feel is fully lite with data. I have broad shoulders I can take the heat of people not liking my lamp focused in certain directions. It’s all good, I know who I AM. Much love to you all, don’t hide in the shadows of fear of asking for light to be made clear. ♥

      • sonya says :

        Absolutely – and thanks for cutting through the dross and putting the essence right out there.

  25. lisa says :

    P.S. I’m so over hearing ‘duality’. It does not take any guru or genius to see that the very few oppress the many. We have been bombarded with a ton of new age beliefs which I do not see as truth but belief and told that it is fact, if you don’t agree you aren’t spiritual enough, your vibration isn’t enough, blah blah blah.

    Is this not just new religion, a pink glitter encrusted turd is still a turd! I do not doubt that positive change is happening, I don’t doubt that things are going to get better, but I do doubt words that do not follow with transparent actions are the ‘way’ it will happen.

    With regard to project 13, I’m not bothered that it hasn’t rolled out because a new social platform isn’t really of that much interest to me, especially when it was explained. If others think it’s great, good for them, I hope they enjoy it and I truly mean that. I don’t feel the need for a encrypted social platform as I do not care if anyone is spying on me on facebook, fill YOUR boots, listen to me talk about my kids or love life. Whatever works for ya! I have nothing to hide, I am transparent, Lisa is my real name.

    I was and always was much more interested in the OPPT UCC filings and following that progressive story. I have been on my own spiritual journey for a number of years so that’s not my angle either. I saw the potential for equality as promised by the power Heather said the filings had. I was excited for the end of suffering for everyone, I was hopeful that someone had finally found a way to do something that will help those that cannot help themselves, say the billions who have no access to a computer, or any knowledge of any of this.

    Hope is a very precious thing, when you build it in others expect that they will have expectations because you created those expectations by your Do’ing, Be’ing and Claiming. If you say you can and are doing something on behalf of all humanity, all of creation even, those are pretty big shoes to fill and alot of hope that’s fostered. Responsibility for that surely rests with those who make the claim.

    I don’t care one iota about payback, vengeance or retribution. I just want to see life lived as it should be, beautifully and blissfully, creatively. We don’t need darkness, darkness needs us to believe we need it though. Just a thought.

  26. Rene K says :

    haha, I’ve read all the comments now and it took me a while, I must be crazy (or just in love with people BEing!):)

    lisa is clearly refeering to my comment far up there somewhere “go enjoy yourself elsewhere etc”, and that was with full respect of making some one stop or go elsewhere where to end the rambling. Because I like to say “sayonara” to people who just go on and on and on…. I like to see people make a statement and be done with it, and perhaps wait for a reply (from the ones who actually knows!?) before rambling some more, and making others continue rambling even more, and then it never ends. It feels like a blame-game suddenly of who’s right or wrong, this and that, downward action etc.

    I will not write anything long (I’m to simple that way) and throw all my thoughts out there because I don’t believe it’s necessary to blab away all kinds of stuff which will put people down (stealing energy? A thought). Because people can put themselves down with pretty much anything, and what’s going on here can be very disheartening for some.

    We need to stay positive, and not go on and on and on with this rambling because it’s all the same energy, but in a different “wrapping”.

    Questions are nice, but isn’t it a bit feutile discussing this among ourselves? when none of us can actually have the answers but the “team” itself? Maybe just doing a simple thing as WAIT for them??
    This has been ongoing for a while now and some “desert time” will do some good, for me and for you ;)

    Lack of light or not, is not the issue here because there is always light (in a manner of speaking), but we can’t perceive it at this “level”. That’s duality for you believing good vs bad, light vs dark etc.

    Everything IS and everything shall BE, and it is up to YOU to make a difference with any circumstance you may have.

    If this didn’t make any sense, no worries, hehe

    Crazy little me, with my TRUST and FAITH in some people I never met ;)

    That’s just me, and proven otherwise I will stay POSITIVE and see this thing through regardless!

    Love & Light

  27. John says :

    Rene, this is already over.

  28. sonya says :

    Just read this on David Wilcock’s site. The headline caught my attention. Of course – I have no idea if this is true, and I’m not sure what to make of DW, so I wait to see whether things unfold as he suggests, but it’s pretty up-beat and for that reason alone, I have to say, was a really welcome read this evening. Maybe it was just a pleasant, distracting, half hour journey into a nice fantasy, and if so, that’s ok. It was a good read. We shall see.

    http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1131-nightmare-almost-over-part-1

  29. Lisi McFenn says :

    “The Law of Chaos is that Law which states that chaos exists when the observing mind can NOT accept what is. The Law of Order exists when the observing mind can accept what is, regardless of the appearance of chaos.”

    “When the individual, the entity, the vibratory rate, the force, begins to move toward its own personal growth and fruition, in expressing itself through its own Will and volition, through its own creative energies, there comes a time when that force becomes aware of resistances to its energies whereby the force becomes aware that its energies and its expression is being hindered. This is the beginnings of the Law of Cause and Effect.”

    “The Law of Gratitude is that sense of satisfaction where energy that has been given receives a certain reward. Energy that is given moves out on that curved and unequal line and, when extended far enough, can only return to its source bearing gifts. The Law of Love and Law of Gratitude express the action of generosity and affection and allow entities to cast their bread upon the waters of life without knowing where, how, when, or if it shall return to them.”

    “The Law of Co-Creation – The Law of Co-Creation states that two working in co-creative action have the power of four working individually; and three working in co-creative activity have the power of sixteen; and one-hundred and forty-four working in harmony can change the world. When large groups of entities believe and agree on certain images as being real and being stable, this agreement does hold the power of many times that number of energies, if such energies were held by individuals working separately. When groups of entities agree upon certain images, these images do tend to manifest and hold their being in a magnified manner.”

    “The Law of Patience – The Law of Patience states that all things must have their time and their season whereby they may work their action to proper fruition.”

    “The Law of Thought – Energy follows thought; those who wish to energize, need only to direct their thoughts toward that target which needs energizing.”

    “The Law of Vibration – The Law of Vibration states that any vibration which is sent out for good and service, increases into higher frequencies as it moves through space, until it returns to its origin, bringing gifts of those higher frequencies. Forces drawing on vibration for selfish purposes…drawing these forces into themselves, will receive vibrations that decrease in their frequency level, moving into lower frequencies as they enter into one’s Being, requiring that the Being get another “fix” of incoming vibration and energy, then another and another, as though one were addicted. Magnetism, the drawing of energy, decreases the vibratory rate, while Radiance, the giving forth of energy, increases the vibratory rate. When entities radiate good, those energies increase into higher frequencies and bring back good. When entities send forth selfish energies, those energies bring back lower vibrational forces.”

    (from The Universal Laws)

  30. lisa says :

    Actually Rene, I wasn’t referring to your comment. Just so you know. As for the Universal Laws written by a person, here in the 3D, doesn’t really mean much to me as eternal essence embodied absent limits. I follow one Law if you will only, do no harm. I do agree with you however Rene on the energy stealing, I certainly do feel like my energy has been zapped by all these grand declarations with no action visible.

    I’ll try to keep this hooked on phonics short….I am able to use telekinesis, help people connect with their deceased loved ones, do energy work, etc. So while many might point a finger at me and say ‘that’s low vibration or bad or negative’ by questioning, really that says alot more about the spiritual evolution of the person pointing the finger as I haven’t pointed my finger and deemed anyone spiritually lesser or lower or beneath me. I simply have questions. Good thing isn’t not burn her at the stake time or I’d be toast already. Peace and love to you all.

  31. Lisi McFenn says :

    “The Law of Patience states that all things must have their time and their season whereby they may work their action to proper fruition….

    The Law of Gratitude is that sense of satisfaction where energy that has been given receives a certain reward. Energy that is given moves out on that curved and unequal line and, when extended far enough, can only return to its source bearing gifts. The Law of Love and Law of Gratitude express the action of generosity and affection and allow entities to cast their bread upon the waters of life without knowing where, how, when, or if it shall return to them.”

  32. sonya says :

    We can never be sure that the opinion we are endeavoring to stifle is a false opinion; and if we were sure, stifling it would be an evil still. ~John Stuart Mill, On Liberty, 1859

    The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen. ~Tommy Smothers

    Censorship reflects society’s lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime. ~Potter Stewart

    The peculiar evil of silencing the expression of an opinion is, that it is robbing the human race; posterity as well as the existing generation; those who dissent from the opinion, still more than those who hold it. If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth: if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth, produced by its collision with error. ~John Stuart Mill, On Liberty, 1859

  33. John says :

    I think the problem is much more fundamental than opinion vs opinion. The problem is one of different world views, and I think the gulf is too wide to breach. The beginnings of OPPT, for most people, were in the UCC filings and commercial remedy. And while there was new age language throughout Heather’s initial UCC filings, the emphasis in them, as the emphasis in the earliest interviews done with Heather, was on collapsing the corporations and governments, and returning the wealth to the people. Over time, though, Heather expressed less and less interest in the commercial aspects and her language become more and more “5D,” more and more difficult to understand, and she seemed to lose patience with those who were seeking actual 3D remedy for their financial problems. That observation is to preface this observation. Those in the new age movement who have been attracted to Heather are, like her, unconcerned with outcomes. They seem to see themselves as observers watching some cosmic plan play out without particular attachment to how all of this ends, only convinced that the universe is completely benevolent and heading toward some kind of nirvana. This, of course, is a matter of faith, and you really can’t debate with people who operate from faith in a system they acknowledge even they don’t understand. The problem for this movement, though, is that there seems to be an acknowledgement, now, that Heather and her crew in Morocco no longer have an interest in 3D things like debts and mortgages, and feeding the kids, and are focused totally on “energetics.” I assume, from the interviews I’ve listened to, that they are all in Morocco seeking to bring about the “finality,” to through their energetic intervention, bring the “new age” into existence. It will not happen. That will be of no concern to those who do not care about outcomes, but my observation is that they have already lost the majority who are desperately concerned with outcomes.

    • Tonia says :

      Wrong John. They have not lost the majority of us. They never had you to begin with and all you are trying to do is to silence the rest of us. You have attempted to divide us but you have not succeeded. The majority has just chosen not to engage in your one sided conversation.

    • Rene K says :

      What’s all this talk about “new age” movement? For your information, to be spiritual is a STATE to BE rather than being a meatsack waiting to die because you don’t believe in anything than yourself and what for some reason your whole life appears to be coincidental, and a perspective just beyond the tip of your nose.

      There is no new-age, it’s in reality rememberance of what was, which disbelievers and scientists have labeled this for the purpose of making it false/unrecognized. There is nothing new about it, it is and has always been energy and spirituality.

      If you can’t get passed that barrier, then you really need some “desert time” ;)

      • Tonia says :

        That’s right Rene and can I say I would love to be in the desert surrounded by and basking in positive energy and love!!!!

  34. John says :

    I just hope they weren’t smoking out in the desert what they were smoking when they saw each other flying and with green hands while signaling space aliens to land at a cricket pitch. Chemicals and the desert don’t go together well. We learned back in the 1960s that smoking the purple drapes was not a good idea.

  35. will says :

    what is heather s email ? i would like to ask directly instead of speculating, its not getting us anywhere !
    heather@peoplestrust1776.org? please share her contact. thank you all

  36. sonya says :

    I tend to agree with you, John, that the problem is one of world views, or maybe different paradigms and I think the observations you have made seem to be an accurate synopsis and analysis of the process so far.

    However……lol,

    If Heather and the crew in Morocco indeed no longer have an interest in 3D things like debts and mortgages, and feeding the kids, and are focused totally on “energetics”, that is their choice, of course, and, frankly, in and of itself that choice is none of my business… except that I still see an anomaly in as much as they are able to be in Morocco precisely because others, many of whom were still acting from a different paradigm to theirs, financed their trips, in part at least, through donations of the very commodity (tangible currency) they seem to purport not to need. I can’t help wondering what they would now be doing if they didn’t have the money to feed their own kids or keep a roof over their own heads.

    Oh yes, we’ve just had some examples of that – if they need a computer, or if one of the team is about to become homeless, or whatever, they ask their followers to donate that same hard currency which they purport not to need!

    So why are their needs more important, to the point of asking the public for donations, than any Jo Blogs’ desperate need to feed their kids and stop their home from being foreclosed? Aren’t we all supposed to be equal?

    Is it because Heather and crew deem themselves to have a special ‘mission’ to complete to save humanity?! If so, doesn’t that suggest we have an ‘elite’ control group or clique which has formed, whose needs are clearly considered to be more important than others’? If so, what happened to the ‘we are all equal’ principle they expound. I don’t remember subscribing to that!

    At the same time, it can’t be ignored that they publicly made certain statements on the basis of which many people engaged with the process initiated by the OPPT filings. If, subsequently, they made the choice to abandon the 3D initiatives they launched, based on the very transparency and self responsibility which they claim to be the sine qua non of their eternal essence absent limits embodied in 3D, and any and all other ‘D’s, they would be morally bound to be up front and transparent about that….which so far does not seem to be the case.

    And what has happened to the world’s wealth which they claim to have taken ownership of, if they have now abandoned the project to return it to the people? I mean, come on Heather, where is it?

    In case it is a simple question of needing to ask, I am hereby formally instructing that Heather return to me, within 14 days, my share of the world’s wealth which she has acquired on behalf of the one people of this world for the purpose of returning said value to the one people, of which I am ONE!

    Anyway, I guess all this is just going round in circles, and I’m becoming flippant, so I’m gonna stop there and just wait for the next instalment!

  37. Kenrick says :

    It IS really sad to see people tearing themselves apart, about what is going to happen and what IS, the energy of doubt and fear will not change the final outcome of what will BE. Accept all the outcomes as potentials. For example one day we will DIE accept it and FREE your MINDS. I am also disappointed that things never happen, worrying about it is not going to change anything.
    Remember we are all responsible for what we Believe and conceive as co creators , that is what got US in the mess WE were in, in the first place. CHILL OUT know Peace. LOVE & LIGHT.

    • sonya says :

      Thanks, Kenrick. I agree, there’s no need to sweat about this, or be anxious, and I’m not. I don’t have any investment in a particular outcome from this initiative, so I’m really not tearing myself apart, but I do appreciate your kind words.

      My view is that it is blind faith, not asking questions and not expressing doubts that got us into this mess in the first place. The essence of the term ‘sheeple’ suggests blindly following without engaging in critical thinking. That’s why I consider asking questions and expressing doubts to be neither dark nor fear based, but of the light and vital for a healthy society.

      As I’ve said a few times already – if this initiative proves to be genuine and successful, that will make me deliriously happy. If not, I do believe completely that the demise of the cabal will take place at some point, because of the ground swell of awareness and the will for positive change, and because all sorts of people are doing all manner of things in all areas of the world, to that end.

      I know I will die one day – obviously, :) And that doesn’t scare me, on the contrary. But while I am here embodied in this 3D plane, the suffering I witness does distress me, and if I can do something to alleviate that, or end such widespread suffering, I’ll do what I can.

      • sonya says :

        Basically, everyone here wants pretty much the same thing for the world, there are just differing views about whether this particular initiative is going to fulfil its promise and help us to get there, and that’s ok.

        Love to all. <3

    • Tonia says :

      Here here Ken. Couldn’t agree with you more!!!!!! Love & Light to you as well.

  38. Al50 says :

    What ever they are doing where ever, it’s their choosing, it’s them as individuals doing what they feel led to do, I have learnt that i must stop depending on someone else to do it all for me/us we/I am a part of all of all this as much as heather,D, Lisa, and who ever is in the desert, we have been so conditioned by the PTW to be servants/slaves we have become so accustomed to being told what to do, or how it must be done, and where to go, we wait for THEM!! the so called leaders/ Govt etc etc to baby sit us, so in some sense we keep looking to the Heather Caleb, Oppt, to do and act in the same way to us, as our leaders our Govt, saviors, to give us access to our value/ $10 Billion Dollars, so we can Pay Mortgage/death pledge, put billions back in the very bank /system that’s been ripping us off, making money from our money,/energy, the same bank who is making money out of nothing, having us pay for a mortgage that dose not exist. in a little time from now we may not have any need for money, but through it all we made it, and we will make it to the end what ever that end may be, lets just start tapping into our god given powers and like heather, and the rest of them where ever they me be, start calling on the universe/God what ever you may call him to help in the battle of good over evil cause we know we shall win, cause we are confident in the victory, of good over evil. lol,lol so come on you beautiful, powerful, loving people my brothers and sisters, even though we question and feel a bit angry, abandonment, left outside in the cold with no answers, if you will, no one telling us whats going on, etc etc, what to do? but remember, the power is in us as much as in everyone else, lets remove the bad guys ourselves who are blocking our access to financial freedom, see them gone, see yourself having the means to go and do what ever you want…. lets do this…… much love..

    • Tonia says :

      You can count me in!!!! We will see them defeated. We are free and we are one and we have the organic ability to do this with LOVE & LIGHT!!!!!

  39. Lisi McFenn says :

    The Law of Divine Proclamation

    The Law of Divine Proclamation states that the
    ability of an individual to express, speak or proclaim in behalf
    of the Divine Forces is in direct proportion to the ability of
    the individual to cease expression, speech or proclamation in
    behalf of self.

    When one learns to express, speak or proclaim as a Divine Being, and to avoid expression, speaking or proclaiming
    as a self-centered being, at such time the entity becomes the
    Master of the Language of the Divine.

  40. Lisi McFenn says :

    The Law of Divine Proclamation

    The Law of Divine Proclamation states that the
    ability of an individual to express, speak or proclaim in behalf
    of the Divine Forces is in direct proportion to the ability of
    the individual to cease expression, speech or proclamation in
    behalf of self.

    When one learns to express, speak or proclaim as a Divine Being, and to avoid expression, speaking or proclaiming
    as a self-centered being, at such time the entity becomes the
    Master of the Language of the Divine.

    (from the Universal Laws)

  41. Lisi McFenn says :

    The Law of Motivation

    Entities following the Law of Motivation, wherein the motivation is the means and the end, may discover the Law of Gratitude returning more quickly to them, with greater abundance, the energy that has been given.

    (from the Universal Laws)

  42. Lisi McFenn says :

    Much gratitude Tonia, Al50, Will & Rene K. Wonderful to see a little balance!!!!

    • Tonia says :

      Right back at you. WE are in this together!!!! Much love to all of you engaged in holding the space needed to allow our desired changes to manifest in our realities. Love & Light.

  43. Lisi McFenn says :

    Kendrick, thx for the balance to U 2!!!

  44. Lisi McFenn says :

    Kenrick, I mean. Sry for the misspell…

  45. Lisi McFenn says :

    Hi Eve, my point simply, going on and on about something in the face of no constructive feedback, is there a point to that? It’s not the jumping in point i was objecting to, i did say “taken altogether”, and was referring to the unrelenting harangue about something nobody here can answer. I notice Will offered an email contact. Good idea. Logic may be 3D to some extent, but what’s wrong w/using it, like a lot of other tools? The endless haranguing does, however, demoralize other people who’d like to exchange constructive ideas rather than beat one point to a pulp.

  46. Lisi McFenn says :

    Thx Tonia. On another note, speaking of the desert, i found myself going back to the desert in my mind several times since Rene first started mentioning “desert time”, and it was nice! I usually go to a big beach whenever i’m sort of meditating (I don’t get down in the floor to meditate, but seem to kind of switch over to a meditative state off and on during the day), and what i noticed was that i liked the dry sand sensation better than the beach sand. It was extremely relaxing! One thing i recall of the Sahara were the huge slabs of fossil rock being pulled out and the locals would make these gorgeous tables out of them, they were incredibly heavy, but so beautiful. Hotels near the desert, in the summer, would turn the carpets over upside down so that the sand would spill onto the floor and not accumulate in the carpet fibers. Little memories, but fun to recall. The desert @ night was wonderful. Kinda scary but so immense and almost like what i would imagine being out is space feels like. How’s that for 3D? Cheers!

  47. Tonia says :

    Beautiful. Just how I’ve imagined it the many times I’ve connected to and felt the energy. I loved that Moxie said they created a landing pad. I’ve used it. Lol. I’m also intrigued that a group believes that Morocco is a part of Atlantis. Just calls me in even more. Have a great day. :)

  48. Al50 says :

    I LOVE what’s happening in the forum at the moment, I feel the love!!! thanks Tania let’s just keep it sweet like that and much will happen. much love. need some tips on Meditating, my mind seems to be going all over the place, sex sex sex lol lol lol help help help …..

  49. Al50 says :

    I LOVE what’s happening in the forum at the moment, I feel the love!!! thanks Tania let’s just keep it sweet like that and much will happen. much love. need some tips on Meditating, my mind seems to be going all over the place, sex sex sex lol lol lol help help help …..
    much love

  50. Al50 says :

    lol every one is forgiving each other, thanking each other, helping each other,sweet!! just sweet!! Sonya don’t feel no way, your, fears and concerns are valid, and pure, you just want like all of us to be free from the evil grip of poverty, and to see the real bad guys go to jail, know that there are so many souls from all over the universe that has come to this planet to aid us in this process, and as we speak, things are being change in our favor, just keep sweet, and trust that everything even though you don’t understand it at the moment, is working on your behalf………that goes for everyone here even me. Much love.

  51. will says :

    i try to call heather s number 12535094597, but the number is not accepting any calls at the moment, does anyone have heathers contact details, so we can compile a list of questions. i respect all the “ground crews”, but personally i prefer to digest informations myself, also, we are all at different stage of understanding. so i would like to ask heather myself, if you know heathers email or contact, please share. thank u, i can be reached @ will.c@linuxmail.org

  52. Lisi McFenn says :

    I’ll look on show notes…

    Also, below article may be relevant to some:

    http://peoplestrustsaskatoon.blogspot.ca/2013/06/the-event-from-my-perspective.html

  53. Ken Rankin says :

    Been gone but not asleep. The energy on this thread is being mirrored elsewhere. Things are ramping up. Indicators are that banking reset started this weekend. Not a coincidence that Bilderberg Group is meeting this weekend in England. Obama meeting with Chinese. David Willcock updates tentively predicts June 24-July 2 for “something’. Stockmarket tomorrow is supposed to reflect something that’s over my head. Bigfoot is exposing him or herself again. Media reporting on things never before mentioned. Supposed to be increased daytime sightings of ufo’s, but have not seen any evidence. All this means something. Don’t expect 10 billion. What would happen if everyone in the world suddenly got their hands on that at the same time? But help is coming, Keep the faith and don’t eat each other. And yes, I caught up on all posts, thanks to the light, no comment to anyone else. I’ll be back. Love and light.

    • will says :

      i agree ken, thank you. alex jones got on bbc, well, as usual, the ridicule ! but i am sure alot of people are aware and conscious already.

  54. Lisi McFenn says :

    Only one e-m addr in notes: FOROPAQ@gmail.com

    A site for Questions regarding Courtesy Notices, but maybe someone would see it & relay the msg(?)

    Has anyone tried commenting on AK, RTS or BK’s blogs?

  55. Lisi McFenn says :

    Thx Tonia on the site ref. The harmony angle certainly follows… Thx for u’r kind presence.

  56. John says :

    You will not get any answers from Heather, only unintelligible “5D” rambling.

    • will says :

      why are you here john? its very time consuming to read all the comments and reply them

      • Tonia says :

        That’s ok Will. John knows they are in the desert admitadly and yet he continues to attack them. There is no integrity in such an act. They will be back and we will be here. In the meantime I just read some interesting data and watched another hysterical video at Streets of Love blog with Angel Lucci. Love & Light Will. :)

    • Jason says :

      Seriously… I was taught a long time ago that if you had nothing good to say.. Then to say nothing at all…

      What is your purpose here John.. Your negativity carries no weight with those of us looking at this from a correct perspective.

      If you think it’s all such a load of bollocks then why don’t you move on elsewhere..

  57. John says :

    Besides, Heather and all the bloggers are in the Sahara desert. I doubt they are reachable by phone.

  58. Lisi McFenn says :

    Wow Tonia, u’r patience simply amazes me!

    • John says :

      Patience is continuing to support a group of people who report they were flying around a cricket pitch with green hands while waiting for space aliens to land.

    • Tonia says :

      LOL Lisi..thanks..at this point John is just hysterical. He keeps singing the same old song and when he thinks he’s got an opportunity he will try and drive it home again just like he did before when he said “It will not happen. That will be of no concern to those who do not care about outcomes, but my observation is that they have already lost the majority who are desperately concerned with outcomes.” That comment made it crystal clear to me!! We are all concerned about the outcomes..why else would we be here? He was targeting those who were or are in the most desperate need which honestly kind of sickens me. I’m not well off and I’ve shared enough about myself on this blog in transparency to show that. I am however more concerned with the overall outcome and all of humanity being freed. That will have a more profound affect on us all and it will happen!!!! I know it will happen…I know that’s why I’m here and when we are able to turn off the chatter (like the nonsense John is projecting) everyone else will know too!!! Much love & light to all of us engaged in this battle working toward the change we all want to see!!!!

  59. Mark says :

    Won’t somebody think of the children?!
    Hey I’m back from being and doing stupid/fun stuff with my family. Did anything happen while I was gone? Apart from Human Nature’s penchant for arguing that is?

    • John says :

      No. The gurus are apparently still in the desert. No Project XIII.

      • Jason says :

        Yeah… Because you would know wouldn’t you John….

        • John says :

          Well, Jason, I would assume that if the gurus were back from the desert, they would be sharing absolute data with us, and Project XIII is still just a splash page on a cheap hosting site. That seems to be what is knowable in this moment of now.

  60. will says :

    arguments aside, i would like to know where is the evidence of all the purported holdings ? show me

  61. John says :

    The latest Skype session I heard said Heather was no longer interested in money, or funding or anything else. She was focused exclusively on “energetics.”

    • will says :

      share the link plz

    • Tonia says :

      Because John she has already done the work (her part)…project XIII is Caleb’s baby and then it will be up to the rest of us to determine where we want to take it. What she is focusing on now is bringing absolute data out for all to see and to discern. I love how you are CONSISTENTLY bashing the group of people that have done this work You haven’t come here to ask questions and you’re not seeking understanding. The only Love & Light you have offered anyone on this page is Lisi and that was sarcasm at it’s finest. You remind me a lot of Keenan John and in fact you would probably feel more at home on his blog since it is also his intent to try and divide us…that’s the epitome of the very SLAVERY SYSTEM most of us are trying to do away with. Everything you say is negative and fear based and I gotta know why you are trying to feed that crap to those of us who have awakened to this reality and have made the choice to move past it? It really feels like you would prefer to keep us all locked up and distracted from all the positive Being and Doing going on around the globe and there is a lot of it. That being said…thanks “John” for the CONTRAST which drives me even harder!! Love & Light!!!

      • John says :

        Tonia, you can’t do away with the slavery system without some kind of critical mass, and this whole movement is losing that quickly! Most folks who responded to the OPPT did so because it seemed to offer them immediate, financial remedy. That is what we desperately need. Most folks are not looking for New Age platitudes. It has become very clear that there is no financial remedy at hand. Love & light don’t feed the hungry kids (unless, of course, you are one of the gurus and can get donations in good, ole FRN’s to party in Morocco for weeks).

        • Tonia says :

          Always Do Your Best

          Keep doing your best — no more and no less than your best. When you overdo, you deplete your body and go against yourself, and it will take you longer to accomplish your goal.

          If you do your best always, over and over again, you will become a master of transformation. By doing your best, the habits of misusing your word, taking things personally, and making assumptions will become weaker and less frequent with time until they completely lose their power over you.

        • Tonia says :

          John, we CAN do away with the slavery system one person at a time. Spreading the word and educating each and every one so that they too can awaken to the programming and the fact that we are indeed slaves to the system. That’s the goal isn’t it? Spreading Love & Light and EMPOWERMENT to each soul that we come across will get us there much faster than constantly dogging the attempts being made!!! Heather has always hated referring to our value as money or funds…she has stressed that many times because the truth is it’s an illusion. The ptw placed the value on gold to coax us into believing that we have no value without it. The ptw feed us fear over and over again which is how they have managed to entrap us to begin with. They made us believe that somehow we needed them to take care of us and look where that got us? We are all stronger and more creative than we give ourselves credit for because again we have been taught not to think for ourselves. I won’t do that anymore. I do my part to help anyone in need whenever I can. I am currently taking care of 6 people on my own. I am in no way rolling in money. I live paycheck to paycheck just like most folks in this economy, but I do believe in change and I do believe that we can do it together and I REFUSE to give up and go backward into the doom & gloom they have also preached at us for years again in another attempt to control us! I believe that positive energy in mass will have a huge affect and it’s happening. I will not feed the dark any longer!! Love & Light John!!

  62. John says :

    Of course, since Heather said she took all the money and precious metals from the PTW, and hid it in a safe place, and clearly must have access to it, SHE doesn’t have to worry about money anymore.

    • will says :

      i think its great if heather can access it john, it will be a big problem if she cant , haha

  63. John says :

    The link is somewhere in this thread, will. It is the one where they are talking about seeing each other flying with green hands while they were preparing a cricket pitch as a landing pad for space aliens.

    • Angelica says :

      Oh wow, so funny, thank you John, you are awesome! You are staying calm in the face of much criticism, it seems the “love and light” crew is getting really frazzled and upset. I am all for everything going as planned, but The One People have not followed through on anything they said they would. That is just reality.

      • Tonia says :

        Lol. Frazzled? By John? Hahaha. It has been said that the ptw infiltrate every group to promote their own agenda. Just saying….there can only be one reason why someone who doesn’t believe in what Heather and ground crew have done and are doing to be investing so much time and energy on a blog inspired by them. When I don’t believe in someone(s) or things I turn and walk away. Love & Light to you!!!!

  64. RSTNM says :

    The point still stands that from our vantage point, project XIII hasn’t moved from what we can tell. That people then are defending them inspite of them having nothing to show, well that’s their problem.
    I’m just concerned as to when the project will be up and running; As it was told it would be. Why you go out on a limb to defend them so much, Tonia, I have no idea. John is simply expressing a, in my opinion, very valid concern as to whether or not anything is happening and if it is, why are we not being told anything? I am quite intrigued as to why so many are willing to spring to their defence when so far no progress on project XIII has been seen?
    You talk about shifting energies and not projecting fear and doubt, but not everyone lives in surroundings that allows such a carefree existence. Survival is still a subject. That being said, I sincerely hope to see this project become, but I will not simply relinquish my concern.

    • John says :

      Words without results are just clanging cymbals that shout “look at me!” I’ve heard enough noise in my life.

  65. Ken Rankin says :

    Years ago, when I consciously committed to improve my character and work on my personal flaws and overcome the baggage I was carrying around, one of the realizations I had was that I was to easily influenced by negative people. I could be angered or depressed by insignificant events. I started a campaign to remove them when identified in my everyday life.Some of these were family members, some were friends of family members, exwives etc. There were repercussions for my avoidance of these people. I was perceived as antisocial and the problem in a lot of cases. Point in case, my children’s mother, I avoided contact when possible and refused to help out when she had needs that I could have addressed. The kids did not understand and still don’t. Recently, i have felt that I had grown enough to change that policy and have taken steps to reengage so to speak. Funny thing, now that I have gone “crazy”, a lot have people have withdrawn from me and aren’t interested in reconciliation. What now, huh? Patience I think. But my point here is that we’ve been guilty here of allowing outside influence to affect our consciousness. We can continue to engage and empower or …….. we can disconnect . I choose to disconnect but that’s my personal need. We all have different needs. Ask yourself what your’s are. Rumor has it that Heather has asked for meeting with White Dragon Society,new Wells Fargo owners, but I have not been able to find any confirmation. What would it mean if true?

    • will says :

      hey ken, sources of the rumor?

      • Ken Rankin says :

        My personal source was the same source that put me on this phase of my journey back in January, a family member and loved one. He monitors a different group of sources from me and we try to cross reference each other for consistency and credibility. Our system works to a degree but not 100%. I asked for his source but he hasn’t responded as yet. I will say, he monitors sources than are more critical of OPPT than mine. Some of our shared sources have gone off the radar just like OPPT. Some are making public mistakes now about their true agenda. Alex Jones stated on camera that he has no belief in ET’s and associated government coverup. Hard to discrimate. BTW Alex Jones is not one of the sources I consider reliable, I only mentioned him because you did.For the record, the battle for financial control is not over. Funds of any kind are not necessarily secure. Hackers on both sides are still doing their thing. Speculations are unavoidable I guess but we must stay positive for our own sake,

    • Tonia says :

      John’s right..that was an old post, but I will tell you what I read most recently was that Caleb is planning to launch Project XIII for free and worry about the payment facilitation issue after it’s up and running just to get it up so I’m sure as soon as they return from the desert (as it was very important that they all participate and they ran out of time) they will launch it. I also read recently that Heather is indeed in touch with the principals and that her underwriting the RV was very significant. I think things can occur that alter and change plans, but I in no way believe that they have just collected donations, ran off and abandoned us. If they do John I will give you a big apology, but for now I remain positive in what I feel in my heart…not my head!!

    • Angelica says :

      Negative is very different from Realistic.

      • Tonia says :

        I guess that would depend on the individuals perception of reality. Mine is just not directed by negativity. I won’t allow fear to rule my thoughts or actions. That’s my choice and my inspiration. I’ve been ruled by fear, controlled by worry and unable to get out of my own way. I’m just past that now.

  66. John says :

    The rumor comes from a three month old post quoting Heather that has made the rounds today. Of course, nothing she said came to pass. The original poster acknowledged that she didn’t realize it was an old post. But, once these things have wings…

    • Linda says :

      It would appear that most of the follows are very new to any of the higher energetic work and are completely oblivious to the ‘Monty python sketch’ played out in morocco and now being played out in the desert!!!! For goodness sake go research on the energetic side and what is needed to integrate these energies in a real way. Also many are concerned for those following these people who have been funded by people who trusted them. They are all completely inexperienced in not only the spiritual side of things but also the financial. People are coming on here to assist but there is a huge hypnotic trance going on where people are now in fear of letting go of their expectations.

  67. Tonia says :

    WE are all beautiful beings of love and light!!! Each and every one of us. I believe in every one of you!! I believe in me! Survival is key for me too…don’t think it’s not. I never said it wasn’t, but I have overcome much in my life and I’ve shared some but I will share more so that you can all appreciate where I come from. I was taken from my real mother at the age of 3 where I ended up being physically, sexually, mentally, and emotionally abused DAILY until I was 12 years old. An opportunity presented it’s self to me (oddly enough the fear of not speaking…you know Speak now or forever hold your peace as I was threatened with death or the eventuality that I would live to regret it if I ever said anything) and I took it. It was an inner knowing that gave me the courage. This man wasn’t just abusing me..he was also abusing others….I had to speak and as a result I was removed and it was nothing short of a miracle!!! I was then placed back up for adoption so I have been adopted twice..I traveled through foster care homes where I was again subject to abuse..but I did finally get out of that and moved in with a very controlling individual which ultimately pushed me to lose control and self destruct and landed myself in rehab for cocaine. It has taken me years to let go of my past and to forgive what has happened to me BUT I AM the example that I need to know that change is possible. So I am all about change and believing in people and their abilities to be the change they want to see in the world.

    As far as Project XIII..I believe that it will be launched as soon as it can be. I also believe the UV IXchange will be launched and the value will be there. I also believe the reset of the global economy is going to happen. I believe that the absolute data is being presented to each and everyone of us right now if we choose to look for it. I BELIEVE!! I can’t help it…I just do…it’s in my heart!!!

  68. John says :

    Tonia, do not put too much faith in people you meet on the Internet. Heather is not what she claims. And that is about to become abundantly obvious.

    • Tonia says :

      We will see John…but I will make that decision for myself and not because of what you keep trying to convince me of and either way John…my eyes are open and I will still believe and be the change I want to see in this world! Plain and Simple…NO ONE CAN KEEP ME DOWN Unless i allow them to.

  69. Lisi McFenn says :

    I look at this thread as a precursor to what’s to come with the I UV Exchange, and by extension, the post-collapse. People are beginning to look towards each other for consensus about moving forward into a post-collapse existence. No point just starting up after the fact. Anyone can NOW see what’s happening in the world, unless that person doesn’t want to see what’s happening. This thread is a precursor to the whole idea of an I UV Exchange (or UV Ixchange). People have been awakening at very individual paces, but it’s clear from the many alternative news coverages @ this point in time that the awakening factor is becoming exponential. The outcome of any one “movement” isn’t the point really, b/c any and all movements that further the awakening and stimulate humanity to reach out to itself in a constructive creative manner is the point of this and any other movement, whether that movement purports to include sustenance for the masses or only encouragement and inspiration. Individuals harping about this fine point and that fine point clearly miss the real point, which is something Barbra Streisand made famous eons ago, about people needing people. All this other stuff is simply manifestation of individual endeavors towards creating a new way of BE’ing. We already know the entire world has progressed past the point of return towards the future and that the institutions are on their way out, but only if we have ears to hear & eyes to see. Those who don’t will yammer on and on ad infinitum, and their energies will eventually have to either pony up to what we’re moving toward, or dissipate altogether, as per this excerpt: “We know that as the positive vibrational frequencies rise the ones that thrive on negative energy (that won’t change) won’t be able to survive & this is why they are scared & trying everything they can to keep people in fear through mis & disinfo!” – from a recent article. When someone continues communicating but in a negative manner, the reasons are few. It’s either deliberate for disruptive purposes, or it reflects back onto that individual. As weird as it may seem to some of us, lotsa folks actually DO thrive on negative energy. Everything I’ve read about that indicates it’s healthier to avoid people like that when their negative energy begins to override. If anyone’s done any reading at all about what’s up the road for humanity, it’s also obvious that the shift we’re going through is a gradual one. Most with eyes to see/ears to hear already know that, so that’s why we’re not “yeah, butting” everything around us. I had a childhood friend once who developed into the kind of personality that would say “yeah, but…” after anything anyone ever said. Yeah, but this, yeah but that… Always some negative comment. Sad to say, in spite of the childhood years we spent together, I finally had to get out of that person’s life. The drain was just too much. Perhaps there’s a spirit attachment involved in cases like that, or maybe it has to do with brain wiring, or just paid trollish, either way, same result. Total drain, if u let it. Tonia apparently knows that from the far side. God bless U, Tonia. I can’t think of anything worse than experiencing that as a child. I had post-divorce stepparents who were energy vampires, so I got enough of a taste of the possibility of that kind of childhood, I let my kids come up with none of that negative parental garbage. They continually thank me for it, now that they’ve had a chance to see what it looks like in their own experience. It can be very debilitating to have to go through even the lesser types of abuse. Hats off to U Tonia!!! U remind me of my sister, who experienced a lot worse than I did. U’r attitude is extremely enlightening and uplifting. I know there’s a divine center to everyone that comes from the Creator, and I wish I could assist those who can’t connect with their own center to do so, but that apparently is not my strong suit(!). I sincerely hope people who aren’t really “getting” what’s going on in the world enough to calm down and stop niggling the bejesus out of everyone else will eventually find their divine center, but in order to function, I choose to no longer engage with those types b/c unlike some, I have not been able to shield myself from that sort of thing successfully. Ken & Tonia & Will & everyone else here who’ve tried to express positivity are looking to the big picture and not just this thread on this site. But we all need to come together (per the Beatles’s lyrics) to re-create this world as the old collapses, and that’s what most folks on this thread are all about. That’s what matters, and that’s where my energies are going. Anything else is just distraction and attention seeking. “Here Comes the Sun”…

    • Tonia says :

      Wow…Thank YOU Lisi…that was amazing. I can feel your energy (love) and that was a wonderful exchange which is much appreciated!!! :) Right back at ya!! I am also sorry for the pain you and your sister endured and the rest of the world. I once again agree with everything you’ve said. Love & Light!!

  70. John says :

    Tonia, Caleb is having a problem figuring out a way to get payment because he can’t let the IRS know he has any income. In 2011 he tried to run a 1099C scam on the IRS, alleging he had $2.5 billion in canceled debt and using that to offset money he owed to the IRS. Here is the link to a very long pdf. Start on page 44 to see what he was up to. He is basically trying to hide income from the IRS. http://ronmamita.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/2011119645.pdf So, he is going to have to find someone who will run the payments through their business account and then pay him in cash. It appears, from the contract Heather talks about, that perhaps he is going to run it through her husbands business to accept payments.

    • John says :

      The first 43 pages is the elaborate process of the UCC redemption scheme. You need to understand that Caleb and Heather were deep into the UCC Redemption movement. Her story that she was a lawyer in the financial realm is simply not true. She was a personal injury lawyer who got into this Redemption movement where she met a really bad player, Charles Miller. She, Caleb and Charles Miller hatched this scheme that they named OPPT, based on the very scam that put Charles Miller in prison.

    • Tonia says :

      LOL John…so he practices what he preaches…YES..that’s good news!! He’s not the only one sick of the IRS and the fraud that surrounds the so called voluntary taxes. If it is indeed the truth I certainly wouldn’t believe the IRS!! And what’s more good news is atleast he’s obviously in your own words planning to launch. PERFECT..THANK YOU!!!

  71. Robert Kimble says :

    I’ve just been taking everyone’s opinions and replies into my cerebellum.for the past 2 months. Conclusion: Nothing on here makes one ounce of sense and scratch my head wondering why anyone would be a part of a worthless,
    nondescriptive blog such as this. This is typical 3-D, spoon feed me crap so that I am comfey in my little world of make
    believe in Mr. Roger’s Neighborhood.

    Won’t you be mine, Won’t you be mine. Won’t you be my neighbor. Hi neighbor.

  72. Ken Rankin says :

    Lisi, your energy is incredible. Are you of scottish descent by any chance? Not important, just wondering.

  73. Lisi McFenn says :

    Yup.

  74. Lisi McFenn says :

    Sinking spells, fun huh? Astragalus good 4 that! (Adaptogen)… (Might ck; Swanson Health Products online – lotsa BOGOs! Very very reasonable…good stuff). Naps R great 2 tho’!!!!! G’day!

  75. Lisi McFenn says :

    Hi neighbor! Some may not see it or understand it, but Mister Rogers was modeling something even the most cynical ,hardbitten misanthropes can now be shown actually had an uplifting effect on the populace:

    “15 REASONS MISTER ROGERS WAS THE BEST NEIGHBOR EVER
    by Mangesh Hattikudur

    IMAGE CREDIT:
    Back when I was in 7th grade I stood up in front of my English class and delivered a tongue-in-cheek, poorly researched presentation on why I thought Mister Rogers should be the next President. I ate up the first few minutes zipping up my cardigan, and putting on some sneakers, and then I proceeded to mock him roundly. It was a riotous success. Fourteen years later, I’m using this post to repent. The following are 15 things everyone should know about Fred Rogers:

    1. EVEN KOKO THE GORILLA LOVED HIM

    Most people have heard of Koko, the Stanford-educated gorilla who could speak about 1000 words in American Sign Language, and understand about 2000 in English. What most people don’t know, however, is that Koko was an avid Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood fan. As Esquire reported, when Fred Rogers took a trip out to meet Koko for his show, not only did she immediately wrap her arms around him and embrace him, she did what she’d always seen him do onscreen: she proceeded to take his shoes off!

    2. HE MADE THIEVES THINK TWICE

    According to a TV Guide profile, Fred Rogers drove a plain old Impala for years. One day, however, the car was stolen from the street near the TV station. When Rogers filed a police report, the story was picked up by every newspaper, radio and media outlet around town. Amazingly, within 48 hours the car was left in the exact spot where it was taken from, with an apology on the dashboard. It read, “If we’d known it was yours, we never would have taken it.”

    3. HE WATCHED HIS FIGURE TO THE POUND

    In covering Rogers’ daily routine (waking up at 5; praying for a few hours for all of his friends and family; studying; writing, making calls and reaching out to every fan who took the time to write him; going for a morning swim; getting on a scale; then really starting his day), writer Tom Junod explained that Mr. Rogers weighed in at exactly 143 pounds every day for the last 30 years of his life. He didn’t smoke, didn’t drink, didn’t eat the flesh of any animals, and was extremely disciplined in his daily routine. And while I’m not sure if any of that was because he’d mostly grown up a chubby, single child, Junod points out that Rogers found beauty in the number 143. According to the piece, Rogers came “to see that number as a gift”¦ because, as he says, “the number 143 means ‘I love you.’ It takes one letter to say ‘I’ and four letters to say ‘love’ and three letters to say ‘you.’ One hundred and forty-three.”

    4. HE SAVED BOTH PUBLIC TELEVISION AND THE VCR

    Strange but true. When the government wanted to cut Public Television funds in 1969, the relatively unknown Mister Rogers went to Washington. Almost straight out of a Capra film, his testimony on how TV had the potential to give kids hope and create more productive citizens was so simple but passionate that even the most gruff politicians were charmed. While the budget should have been cut, the funding instead jumped from $9 to $22 million. Rogers also swayed the Supreme Court to allow VCRs to record television shows from the home. It was a cantankerous debate at the time, but his argument was that recording a program like his allowed working parents to sit down with their children and watch shows as a family.

    5. HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE MOST TOLERANT AMERICAN EVER

    Mister Rogers seems to have been almost exactly the same off-screen as he was onscreen. As an ordained Presbyterian minister, and a man of tremendous faith, Mister Rogers preached tolerance first. Whenever he was asked to castigate non-Christians or gays for their differing beliefs, he would instead face them and say, with sincerity, “God loves you just the way you are.” Often this provoked ire from fundamentalists.

    6. HE WAS GENUINELY CURIOUS ABOUT OTHERS

    Mister Rogers was known as one of the toughest interviews because he’d often befriend reporters, asking them tons of questions, taking pictures of them, compiling an album for them at the end of their time together, and calling them after to check in on them and hear about their families. He wasn’t concerned with himself, and genuinely loved hearing the life stories of others. Amazingly, it wasn’t just with reporters. Once, on a fancy trip up to a PBS exec’s house, he heard the limo driver was going to wait outside for 2 hours, so he insisted the driver come in and join them (which flustered the host). On the way back, Rogers sat up front, and when he learned that they were passing the driver’s home on the way, he asked if they could stop in to meet his family. According to the driver, it was one of the best nights of his life—the house supposedly lit up when Rogers arrived, and he played jazz piano and bantered with them late into the night. Further, like with the reporters, Rogers sent him notes and kept in touch with the driver for the rest of his life.

    7. HE WAS COLOR-BLIND

    Literally. He couldn’t see the color blue. Of course, he was also figuratively color-blind, as you probably guessed. As were his parents who took in a black foster child when Rogers was growing up.

    8. HE COULD MAKE A SUBWAY CAR FULL OF STRANGERS SING

    Once while rushing to a New York meeting, there were no cabs available, so Rogers and one of his colleagues hopped on the subway. Esquire reported that the car was filled with people, and they assumed they wouldn’t be noticed. But when the crowd spotted Rogers, they all simultaneously burst into song, chanting “It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood.” The result made Rogers smile wide.

    A few more things about him…

    9. He Got into TV Because He Hated TV. The first time he turned one on, he saw people angrily throwing pies in each other’s faces. He immediately vowed to use the medium for better than that. Over the years he covered topics as varied as why kids shouldn’t be scared of a haircut, or the bathroom drain (because you won’t fit!), to divorce and war.

    10. He Was an Ivy League Dropout. Rogers moved from Dartmouth to Rollins College to pursue his studies in music.

    11. He Composed all the Songs on the Show, and over 200 tunes.

    12. He Was a perfectionist, and Disliked Ad Libbing. He felt he owed it to children to make sure every word on his show was thought out.

    13. Michael Keaton Got His Start on the Show as an assistant — helping puppeteer and operate the trolley.

    14. Several Characters on the Show are Named for His Family. Queen Sara is named after Rogers’ wife, and the postman Mr. McFeely is named for his maternal grandfather who always talked to him like an adult, and reminded young Fred that he made every day special just by being himself. Sound familiar? It was the same way Mister Rogers closed every show.

    15. The Sweaters. Every one of the cardigans he wore on the show had been hand-knit by his mother.

    I can’t sign off with out citing Tom Junod’s wonderful profile of Fred Rogers and his obituary for him. They are two of the most lovely pieces I’ve (re)read in a very long time. Our researcher Kara Kovalchik also deserves credit for digging them up on an internet archive located here.”

    http://mentalfloss.com/article/16416/15-reasons-mister-rogers-was-best-neighbor-ever#ixzz2VqJuqaab
    –brought to you by mental_floss!

  76. Linda says :

    Its very simple you know, Heather and Brian both ‘woke up’ about 18 months ago, D was an aggressive activist, Lisa was someone who had been dabbling in lots of things and spent a lot of time around different financial schemes in as recent as February 2013 – although she denied it on line the proof is still on the internet – Dee also very involved with financial schemes like Nesara. They all went along with Heather’s soaring dragon affect – (where she was awakened to the spiritual side and more energetic side by Charles C. Miller and Randall and instead of grounding herself and learning the real skills of how to use this energy with disciplined meditation) she rose into the totally illusionary side of thinking she could muster up 5D whilst we are in a physical body. Unfortunately she already pulled in the others, Lisa was disappointed because 21/12 and the culmination of her countdown shows amounted to nothing much and was looking for something to quickly fill the gap! But what about the 200,000 they say were on the shows in the beginning what were they all following! Because certainly none of lisas crew did any research and certainly none of these 2nd rung of followers did either – UCC filings only apply in the US – check out the paperwork for yourselves. UCC filings are filings in a commercial uniform code system they do not make new laws, foreclosures or anything like that. Did heather spend $1 million as lisa said on one of the recent shows. No, she did not. Did she put up her house as a test. No, she did not – when she met Charles miller who paid all the $28 dollars for each of the filings and still has the receipts, her house was nigh foreclosed on then. he tried to help her but it was too late. Total outlay for filings probably aroun d $280 dollars at the most. She went to Morocco because she lost her house, why do you think she went! You think they believe in their value but how many of you paid for Brians so called new computer when he asked for donations, who paid for D’s tickets for herself, her five children and her husband, Lisa’s ticket was paid for by a healer because she couldnt pay it herself. Bob’s there because donations were asked for. The person running this site is now moving house and being looked after by donations. WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO WAKE UP!

    • will says :

      hi linda, can u elaborate more on charles millar?

      • John says :

        Charles C. Miller is a big advocate of the UCC Redemption scheme. He taught people how to file UCC financing statements (it’s all pretty complex), supposedly get the IRS to pay our debts, etc. Numerous people he taught went to prison. Ultimately, he himself was convicted of just these things, and writing $30 million dollars worth of “sight drafts,” bogus checks with which he bought luxury homes, cars and boats.

      • Linda says :

        If you spoke to charlie miller personally, which I have for hours, you will find that heather’s house was foreclosed on at the time she met him. He has told me that she did not use it as a test case, she actually asked him for help but it was too late to do anything about it. you also mentioned that he just gifted heather the ucc control that he had thru his filings – according to him he did not gift it to her and also they did not part in a good way. I know the details and he certainly was not happy over heathers behaviour at the time. Heather actually didnt wake up to anything spiritual until fairly recently and this is why she is so dramatic and over the top in a spacey kind of way – Randall one of the trustees said that when he met her about 18 months ago she was very much the left brain lawyer – it was through randall and charlie millers influence that heather began to pick up the other side but as you know she certainly isnt adept in fact i would call it totally pseudo new age speak and she has no idea how to retain the higher energy in a real way.

    • will says :

      the blogger crews…. i wonder why heather picked them, we all listened to the shows, so you know what i mean. however i do believe the ucc filings are valid and applicable worldwide

      • Linda says :

        check out the oppt-truth site on facebook. all the research is there on the fact that ucc filings are only relevant in the US. the scheme they set up did influence other countries to set up there own systems, or most countries but they are all different. wikipedia is a very basic start for those who have done no research at all for themselves!!!!!!! the UCC filings in the US are only filings, you dont make people bankrupt by just filing a financial statement! as someone on here said , they have all been removed because they were fraudulent and heather thinks that is ok, pity nobody listened to that, people are so hypnotised by the idea of getting money and being so called ‘free’ that it all passes over them.

    • John says :

      I called the Chamber of Commerce where she practiced, and talked to some nice folks at a couple of professional organizations there at the suggestion of the Chamber. She practiced law a total of about 10 years, specialized in personal injury cases and the consensus was that she was pretty good at it. Apparently the financial crash hit the area pretty hard, which eventually effected her business, and she ultimately lost her home to foreclosure. The people I talked to said that in their interaction with her, she never brought up the “5D” language I described to them. One guy said he was glad I had called because he had no idea where they had gone. I have him the phone number she has published online.

      • Linda says :

        If you spoke to charlie miller personally, which I have for hours, you will find that heather’s house was foreclosed on at the time she met him. He has told me that she did not use it as a test case, she actually asked him for help but it was too late to do anything about it. you also mentioned that he just gifted heather the ucc control that he had thru his filings – according to him he did not gift it to her and also they did not part in a good way. I know the details and he certainly was not happy over heathers behaviour at the time. Heather actually didnt wake up to anything spiritual until fairly recently and this is why she is so dramatic and over the top in a spacey kind of way – Randall one of the trustees said that when he met her about 18 months ago she was very much the left brain lawyer – it was through randall and charlie millers influence that heather began to pick up the other side but as you know she certainly isnt adept in fact i would call it totally pseudo new age speak and she has no idea how to retain the higher energy in a real way.

    • Sharyn says :

      UCC filings do not only apply in the U.S:

      Re: UCC
      http://euro-union-court.org/info_ecclesiastical_deed/edp_ucc.htm

      Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) , is a private collection of commercial, financial and transaction laws first presented in draft form by the American Law Institute in 1943 with its 1st official publication in 1952. Its ongoing development is now administered by the National Conference of Commissioners on Uniform State Laws (NCCUSL) and has now been enacted in all of the 50 states of the United States as well as the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, Guam and the US Virgin Islands.

      AS ALL NATIONS and states are registered in the state of Delaware through the SEC system of 1933, UCC applies to all nations and their “employees” when treated as corporations and registered commercial “vessels”.

      There is some deliberate ambiguity concerning registration of foreign entities such as nations and states with the State of Delaware through the updated definition of “registered organizations” under Article 9 stating registered organizations includes “corporations, limited liability companies and limited partnerships”.

      For registration and notice of debts within the domestic United States or territories, the state of the debtor is the state in which a filing must occur. However, when dealing with a non-United States location, the filing must be through either the State of Delaware when the nation or state is registered or the District of Columbia which is the second point of registration for “non registered organizations”.

      The reason this system was introduced and its purpose is to provide the legal mechanism for the International Monetary Fund (IMF) as a collector and manager of debts and repayments owed by various nations registered as corporations through the State of Delaware. These conditions were established as part of the bankruptcy administration of countries since 1933 and subsequently updated for the benefit of all nations, states and private/public registered corporations to ensure significant debts are paid.

      As a result, should a legitimate debt be owed by any nation or state/province in the world, the UCC system may be utilized as a means of giving notice within the global banking/legal/corporate system of a valid debt being owed.

      In all cases, the existence of a valid debt being registered through a UCC filing is a prerequisite before pursuing additional remedy of the global banking/legal/corporate system such as a ruling from the International Court of Justice (ICJ) at the Hague which can then be collected through the Bank for International Settlements (BIS).

      • Ken Rankin says :

        All the legalese is difficult for me. I recently struggled thru Judge Gale’s ” Great American Adventure”. etc.Painful read for me. What I took from it was that by the time americans are 7 yrs old, they are assumed(declared) dead and reinstated as a corporation, therefore having no human rights. Also, we were never a republic as such so in effect, constitution and bill of rights were meaningless. The UCC, court systems, and corporate reality is explained in detail .The depth of the conspiracy is revealed in detail. The last part explains in detail how to counter the legal system. Problem is still, width and depth of the conspiracy, Until disclosure takes place, we remain enslaved. I don’t know or care who Heather was unless she is not responsible for the filings. If she did in fact create the documents and file the filings, then she is a heroin, if she didn’t, then that’s another matter. As to Miller going to jail, you have to ask yourself, who put him there? IRS another corporation filed under and responsible to Vatican. The complexity of the issues we are now facing are mind boggling. No wonder we are all confused and in each other’s face, but the fact remains, we are are part of the greatest struggle in human history. Pick your side and give your support, it’s just that simple. Anyone confusing the issues is suspect in my opinion. Spirituality also creates confusion, a part of the white hats are not embracing the conscious elevating side of this war. A good heart and the right intentions I think are enough to put on a white hat, but it doesn’t overcome communication issues. I believe it will come to a head very soon and tolerance will be easier to manifest. Personally,I think the Fourth of July would be a perfect venue to declare our new freedom. Love and light.

        • John says :

          By her own acknowledgement, all of Heather’s filings have been removed from the UCC system by the PTW because, they said, they were fraudulent…not valid documents. She says that it doesn’t matter, though, because they still stand because they stand in “universal law.” But, Heather also says that whether they stand or not doesn’t matter, that the filings were only a tool to make people conscious. Supposedly, the purpose of the gurus going into the desert was to bring about the finality, and reveal absolute data on their return. We shall see.

  77. maryca says :

    Lots to consider…..Lisi, you should write some more, i really like your candid style. and you are so right about people who live on negative energy. the others of us just need to be aware of the effects of this negativity and continue… be what we know to be and do what we feel is needed. it’s a learning process and requires patience and tolerance for others and ourselves. in response to Linda’s question… we will wake up when we hear the alarm of TRUTH. if people have said they were acting on behalf of humanity, in transparency, and have not, we will know. in the meantime, let those who would offer support, in whatever form, do what they are lead to do. it’s their energy, these are complicated times. it’s a good idea to take in as much info as you can get your brain around and sit on it. let it simmer. act on it when it feels right to YOU. also Lisi, i’m from Mr. Rodgers “neighborhood”! i live near pittsburgh and sent him artwork as a child. i have a hand written thank you from him that i cherish. he and my dad were born the same year. i love his studio and there is a museum room in pitt. with a trolley kids can sit in and all the puppet friends, his sweaters etc. really cool! he lived in pain the last years of his life but continued to work. love that man!!!!!

  78. Tonia says :

    Lstening to the One People’s Radio show. The ground crew is on a bus on their way back to Tangier. Bob Wright has walked 20 meters. Project XIII was suppose to launch for windows phones today. The desktop within this week I believe he said and the IPhone will launch with the next iTunes release which they said happens once a month. So any windows phones out there? If so can you check it out and let us know?? Thanks. Love & Light

  79. Jesse says :

    Unfortunately mr Chris hales has no clue as to what the others are actually doing in the desert. Are thefy now healers or fighting for the people of the world? Why wouldn’t they give a clear message to Chris as to the IVU exchange and project 13 for the show tonight This truly reminds me of Jim jones and the magic spell he put into his followers in the jungles

    I do not doubt for a minute of Chris hales motives but I sincerely doubt heathers Caleb Lisa Brian’s and bobs and D motives and their sincerity about IVU exchange this is not being judgemental but only my opinion what’s yours ? They show no interest about the oppt or anything they told us what would happen on June 1 st evidently KP has given up posting these
    Summaries on his web site I wonder why ?

  80. Mark says :

    Tonia, your comment below,
    “Lol. Frazzled? By John? Hahaha. It has been said that the ptw infiltrate every group to promote their own agenda. Just saying….there can only be one reason why someone who doesn’t believe in what Heather and ground crew have done and are doing to be investing so much time and energy on a blog inspired by them.”
    Obviously you’re suggesting that John is a PTW spy, because the one and only reason someone would challenge Heather is because they are a member of the Elite, Cabal, 1% whatever.
    Umm, let’s see…Currently I am 100% in John’s camp and this is the reason why: My thought processes are ruled by logic, reason and rational thinking. Hey look at that! That suggests I’m stuck in my brain and not allowing my heart to ‘feel’ and over rule. I have instinct, I have gut feelings, and when I recognise any particular instinct and gut feeling, I listen to them and decide with my logical, reasoning and rational brain what has merit and what action or none that I’ll take.
    Aside from that, the fact that I’m 100% in John’s camp, that is I too challenge and question Heather’s motives, by your logic must mean I am also a spy, sent to infiltrate and cause division and confusion. OR, that you might simply suggest that I’m weak enough in the brain to be swayed by John’s superior powers of manipulation and I’m Baa-baa-ing at his feet.
    It’s actually quite cruel to suggest, as you do, that someone might have an agenda of division simply because they question something, which just happens to be something that you feel strongly about and choose to believe in whole heartedly. Why is John still participating in this forum? Why am I? Because we want answers, simple as that. You can’t and haven’t been able to provide answers. So in this interim in the absence of the people that can provide the answers, what’s happening here currently, is a bunch of people simply waiting, biding their time, and spewing forth their own personal beliefs. John in particular is at least providing some factual evidence of people’s past doings.
    My gut feeling or instinct is that some would take my line of questioning as a personal attack toward you. That’s up to them of course. But I can reassure you that I’m simply taking you to task on what you have stated and that it’s not personal. I can’t think of anything I would have to gain by personally attacking you anyway.
    So in the interim, I’m curious. In your opinion am I too only here with the same agenda you accuse of John of having?
    Second point: Below you state,
    “As far as Project XIII..I believe that it will be launched as soon as it can be. I also believe the UV IXchange will be launched and the value will be there. I also believe the reset of the global economy is going to happen. I believe that the absolute data is being presented to each and everyone of us right now if we choose to look for it. I BELIEVE!! I can’t help it…I just do…it’s in my heart!!!”
    Can you please clearly explain what you believe the ‘value’ of the UV IXchange is that you refer to above and also, what the result is of the resetting of the global economy? I only ask because I have no idea what either are or could be. As you have a strong belief about them I might learn something.

    A general comment to anyone and no-one:
    We are all so obviously a result of our experiences in life. More so than what we hear, see or read, our actual experiences provide the true position from which we project our thoughts, beliefs and actions. Some have survived utter disrespect to mind and body, had trust shattered and all manner of harsh and cruel acts perpetrated against them and I so highly commend any of those people coming through that not only surviving but also thriving in goodness from it. Some have had no more than a severe wood splinter or paper cut to deal with in their lives against the grand scheme of things. Either way, each persons conduct is a result of those experiences.
    When you look at the division of this forum from the accepting faith camp to the reserved and questioning camp, it’s not hard to see who may have suffered more than others, generally speaking.

    • will says :

      very valid point mark.. we question, because there is no data !

    • John says :

      I’m a simple, linear thinking guy. I evaluate peoples words based on their results.

      Heather said, and posted a lot of UCC documents supporting her words, that she had foreclosed on all the corporations and governments in the world, that she had taken all of their money, all of their gold and silver, and safely hidden it away for the one people. She said that because of her action, all corporations and governments are dead, that they can no longer function.

      Now, here we are, six months later, and they are all still functioning. And Heather is in Morocco preparing landing strips for space aliens. Heather’s claims and the situation in the real world do not match up. Yes, I’ve heard all of the excuses. But the simple, clear fact is that whatever she claims to have done has had no effect on those who she claims to have put out of business. All of her actions have had no effect. In Heather’s case, there have been lots of words, but no results.

    • John says :

      Simple equation:

      Heather said she shut down the corporations and governments of the world.
      Six months later they are still functioning.
      Heather’s claims are not true.

    • Tonia says :

      Thank you Mark for your being candid…I do not feel like you are attacking me in any way. I actually feel that you have legitimate questions and are keeping your mind and your heart open……waiting…..just like the rest of us. My point to John is quite different. Every comment and every statement he has shared here has been negative. To the point that it actually pushed people to turn away and THAT is why I am so intent on keeping the balance. Am I disappointed that Project XIII didn’t launch on June 1st? Yes I AM! However I also work in business and have seen the best of intentions and the best laid plans not roll out on schedule so for me that is not enough for me to throw in the towel. I’ve also sat and listened to words being twisted and things being intentionally left out from people aiming at the ground crew. I’ve also stated and wondered how Project XIII would even get off the ground when it would be very clear that the ptw would try and stop it. We know that just by all the people they have killed to silence them. Also Caleb was seriously ill for 7 plus days and feels that it was an attack and if you’ve ever had that happen to you then you know it can be quite serious. As far as the value that I believe will be in the UV IXchange…I believe it will be the $10 billion that Heather stated would be there. The entire purpose behind Project XIII is to provide a safe and secure way for us to access our value…Project XIII would not be necessary unless the UV IXchange follows and as John stated that must be what the contract between Caleb and Heather’s husband is for…I don’t know if that was the purpose for that particular contract or not but it’s not the only one she created. She also worked on one for Bob Wright to be able to buy a property person to person without the middle man and it will be an example of what we can all follow going forward. As far as the financial reset, I’m talking about NESARA…there are too many different groups talking about this and how it’s moving forward…The original NESARA was suppose to roll out on 9/11 and you know what the ptw did to stop that from happening. That being said I believe it’s going to happen and I believe it’s going to happen soon. At this point too many people have too much at stake.

      Back to John…he hasn’t offered me any concrete proof of anything. He contacted the Chamber of Commerce…hmmm…and I would trust them? He posted something stating that Caleb attempted to scam the IRS and he’s not in jail…Really? He also has stated that Heather & Caleb followed Charles Miller and he’s now in prison..well then why is it that Heather and Caleb and Randall are free? Heather was arrested and yet they let her out??? Why???…..she clearly stated “If I didn’t do this right, I would be dead”. Someone posted something about her being the director of some company, but she also already explained that there were shell companies started during their investigations to be able to follow the corruption…could it be one of those? Idk..but neither does anyone on here, but I do know what she said when asked about a company started by her and Caleb…and I’m not convinced by the the idea that she may have specialized in a specific field while practicing law…so? Is that to say that she didn’t have the brains or ability to understand the entire legal process?…and what about Judge Dale? He is a retired Judge that has affirmed these documents as valid…he has shared so much information about the system and how it works which completely substantiates everything I had already found on my own as well as what Heather has stated. John himself has told me not to believe everything presented to me on-line..well? What happened for me here Mark is that I had come across a lot of this stuff on my own and quite by accident while researching the federal reserve long before I even heard of the OPPT…I had pieces of a puzzle based on my own inner knowing that something was seriously askew with our government which caused me to start seeking….I stumbled on the OPPT again quite by accident and I listened as pieces of the puzzle I was missing started fitting in to place and making sense. The other part of this for me was religion…I have shared quite intimate details of my childhood on this blog in transparency so that all could understand who I am and why I believe and yes I agree we do become products of our experiences and as such I made many mistakes throughout my life and the church was telling me that I was going to be punished and possibly go to hell for the mistakes I made after God thrrw me into these awful circumstances as a child I had no control over and it riddled me with fear, but it never resonated with me! It never made sense that I could be punished for making my mistakes while attempting to make my way out of the hell I was dropped in to…and for the past several years now I have believed that “religion” was just an attempt to control the masses and that inner knowing set me free if you will…all my fears started to dissipate and anger took it’s place because I knew there were LOTS of people out there needing healing and were too afraid to seek it because they were sure they were going to be judged and sent to hell!!! I have offered my support to all that have come to me in this life in an attempt to set them free from their self judgement and judgement of others and imploring all to forgive because forgiving sets your soul free and I once believed it was the best revenge…living free and being happy in spite of those that would steal your energy and your love. I refused to give my abusers that satisfaction Anyway I’m past that now and believe that we are all one and that God/Creator is inside each and every one of us and THAT is what they have tried so desperately to keep from us in a successful attempt thus far to coax us all into seeking outside validation and value rather than opening up and accepting that we have all the ability we need already to overcome this!!

  81. nbakay says :

    Brothers/ Sisters… my observation is, you are not questioning but debunking and trying to sway belief that what you are saying is the absolute data, have patience.
    TRUTH, LOVE & LIGHT WILL SET US FREE…
    GOD BLESS…US ALL HIS CREATION.

  82. Lisi McFenn says :

    I’m struck by Mister Rogers quote “God loves you just the way you are.” (TOTALLY KOOL about Mister Roger’s neighborhood in Pittsburg! I once spent an afternoon looking for Captain Kangaroo at a fairground, but barely missed him. I was in my 40′s! Taking my daughter around to introduce her to him, he was my early childhood favorite TV guy! But by the time I got to his booth, he had left and didn’t come back, then I heard a couple years after that he had passed – it was so sad! Wish I’d had a CK souvenir!)

    Guess everyone’s patience threshold is different for different things, individuals R selective about when to exercise patience (i know i am!).. I recall having so much patience as a child, one day in 3rd grade, we were all sitting on the floor in Ms. Peoples’ class (that was really her name), and she was having problems w/the projector, which I was sitting directly in front of, supporting myself w/my arms sprawled backwards to one side of it. The room was dark, and she comes clomping down the aisle in her royal purple high heels and big royal purple skirt, and fiddled with the film for a bit, then mumbled something, sounded like she was having ongoing technical difficulties. Somehow, she pivoted one of her heel spikes right onto my left outstretched ring finger, and kept a good part of her weight on it (i can still feel it, thinking about it), but i was extremely shy and totally afraid to say anything. Like I thought my face would explode B4 she got off of it. Then of course, when she did, she sort of ground it more into the floor than when she was standing on it. Wut the heck, i guess personalities are just very different. Had I been in my 50′s (was an activist then) when that happened, it would have been a totally different story. Maybe Mister Rogers is a throwback to earlier times.

    Just B4 running errands, ran across this book, it was sliding out of the hall bookshelf, forgot it was there…Life Without Stress, The Far Eastern Antidote to Tension and Anxiety, by Arthur Sokoloff. Had to pick it up B/C one day I walked through the hallway and didn’t see something that fell off and suddenly wound up w/my nose buried in the carpet. Where the pages opened up, it starts off, “Let us pause for a moment, and consider the nature of genius. One of its qualities is the ability to observe something seen by countless others, but to draw from it a viewpoint hitherto unknown. Sir Alexander Fleming in the 1940′s saw mold growing on bread, a common sight to all, and from this continued on to the discovery of penicillin. Sir Isaac Newton, as the humorous legend goes, was sitting under an apple tree; when an apple fell on his head, he “discovered” gravity. As Sherlock Holmes remarked to Dr. Watson, “We see, but we do not observe.” The chapter goes on to talk about Lao-tzu, “a wandering teacher and philosopher,” what he taught about, and “keeping it simple.” It says the Chinese have an expression, “painting feet on the snake”, which refers to situations made more complicated than they need to be. “We can be happier people if we reduce the complexity of both our outer and inner lives.” …”When our inner selves become more and more complex, when we drift further and further from our basic nature, which is, in fact, simple and childlike, there is a penalty to pay. For it is the child-nature that has the most fun, that looks out upon the world with wonder and awe, that enjoys life. How many times have you seen a child discard a complicated toy and play for hours with the box it came in? Simple does not mean foolish. It means returning to the basic values of life which are plain and self-evident. It means acting spontaneously and intuitively. Sometimes our wonderfully logical Western mentality can lead us astray, giving us false values. At times we should try thinking with out hearts rather than our heads.”

    It goes on to talk about “wu-wei”, which means “nonaction” or “doing by not doing.” I remember reading this book over and over in spare moments back when working 12+ hr days and juggling kids, traffic and everything else (desperation?!!). Since leaving all of that some years back, and having difficulty recently getting hired in a very dead rural economic area, it struck me a couple months ago to just see what it’s like after all those years of rat-racing to try doing nothing at all in this perfect opportunity, and it’s really not very easy. Maybe our “go-getter” programming is impossible to get rid of completely. I do think a lot of us here are going on our intuition rather than totally on logic (that would be me), so it’s interesting to watch the dynamics of that. It’s enjoyable to compare notes, though, while attempting “doing by not doing.” Mark’s “general comment” makes great sense, to me anyhow & it’s humbling to see patience coming from folks who’ve had great adversity to deal with, it’s a wonderful example for me. Since I’m mostly interested in the human potential angle, though, that probably does seem incredibly “faith campy” to some, but to me it’s the key to this whole thing. Anyway, drinking Mountain Dew here, not Kool-Aid, so think I’m okay for the time being. Guess the travelers may have data forthcoming… Ditto nbakay’s comment.

  83. Lisi McFenn says :

    Oops, that should read, “…thinking with ouR hearts rather than our heads.”

  84. John says :

    Tonia, I do Xcode development (that’s iPhone stuff, among other things). There is no “regular” Itunes store update. When a developer creates an iPhone app, part of the process of approval, etc, is that the developer sets the date it will release in the app store. The entire process is automated. The app will become available in the store on the date the developer chooses it to become available. What you are hearing from the “team” is an excuse, not a reason. The problem likely is, if they even have an iPhone app completed, that Apple is balking at approving the app. If you think about the purpose of Caleb’s app, you can understand why they would balk at it. Beyond all of that, though, is the absurdity of this. Android devices have 75 percent of the mobile market, iOS devices 17.3 percent and Windows Phone, 3.2 percent. It makes no sense to release such an allegedly world changing technology first on a phone that only a tiny percentage of the population might own. Apparently, Caleb is releasing it on the Windows phone first because it is the only platform he knows how to write for. Which makes sense, since all of his experience in the software development world appears to have been specializing in Microsoft Customer Relations Management (CRM) development. Caleb is not being transparent.

    • Tonia says :

      It doesn’t really matter to me John…I don’t understand everything that is going on there and perhaps they aren’t telling everything and perhaps they have their reasons for that. I’ve said it before….there is a lot that the ptw could and are possibly doing to try and prevent this from happening. The bottom line is it’s purely speculation and you are intent on smearing them. It’s been a smear campaign for you since you started sharing and again my question is why are you here spending all of your energy and time tearing them down? If you don’t believe in them, great! THAT IS YOUR RIGHT but what are you accomplishing? I’ve made up my mind John…I know who I am…I understand how energy works and I know first hand nothing good can come from maintaining a negative outlook on life. I also understand that fear comes directly from the EGO…not the HEART. It’s my intent to empower people and to let them know that they are not alone and that they are stronger than they give themselves credit for and can do amazing things when they turn away from the EGO and most of all that they are genuinely loved and that together we can move mountains!!!! I’m also intent on not allowing this blog to be taken over by negativity which is what feeds the ptw..it’s exactly how they’ve managed to entrap us to begin with and like it or not THERE IS A VERY REAL BATTLE GOING ON HERE AND WE ALL NEED TO ENGAGE AND UNDERSTAND HOW THEY MANIPULATE US AND HOLD US IN FEAR SO THAT WE BECOME PARALYZED AND DO NOTHING unless ofcourse you would just prefer to let them wipe us out John which they are intent on doing. I CHOOSE TO FIGHT!! I CHOOSE TO NOT CONSENT TO WHAT THEY HAVE AND ARE STILL ATTEMPTING TO DO…IT’S SO MUCH BIGGER THAN JUST THIS BLOG AND WHAT HEATHER AND THE GROUND CREW ARE ENGAGED IN DOING FOR ALL OF HUMANITY. They are not the only ones working for the betterment of us all and I AS I HAVE ALREADY SAID I AM INTENT ON DOING MY PART rather than just sitting back letting someone yack me into depression so I give up all together. NOT GONNA HAPPEN! Love & Light!!!

  85. John says :

    Doesn’t it strike you as odd that Caleb has to have the approval to publish an iPhone app from a corporation that Heather claims she foreclosed on? Why wouldn’t the all powerful Heather simply tell Apple to publish this world changing application?

  86. Al50 says :

    I LOVE WHAT THE OPPT, /OP, HAS DONE, AND IS STILL DOING, A LOT OF PEOPLE DO AS WELL, IT’S MOVING JUST BEAUTIFUL, IT IS DONE THE BATTLE HAS BEEN WON ALREADY, IT ONLY TOOK A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE BELIEVING IN THE MOVE TO LIBERATE HUMANITY, ALL NEEDED IS A SIMPLE FAITH, JUST PLAIN BLIND FAITH IN KNOWING WE WILL AND HAS COMPLETED THE TASK………..WE THE PEOPLE ARE THANKFUL THANKFUL, we the people are happy we the people are love we the people has won, we are winners we has won, all were successful we the people has won………MUCH LOVE……

  87. Robert Kimble says :

    I agree with you and stated yesterday “Why does this group even exist anymore?”

  88. Tiffany Conniff says :

    Lets give the I-UV exchange and Project 13 and whatever else goes with it some more energy. We already have the space for them. Now lets finish what we started. How will it function? Lets get cooking. Push through. Push through.

    • Tonia says :

      Love this Tiffany!! YES…lets get cooking, push through and finish what WE started!! Awesome!! :)

  89. Wayne says :

    P13 needs open and honest discussion.or the energy created will be lost. Updates from the ground crew would help to keep things on track. Lets all stand in the light together…

    • Tonia says :

      I’m standing with you Wayne!! Love & Light!!

    • Tiffany Conniff says :

      Yes!!!!

    • sonya says :

      Wayne, most of the ‘love and lighters’ on this thread don’t want an open and honest discussion, they only want to hear from people who support the initiative like they do.

      • will says :

        agree

      • Tiffany Conniff says :

        I don’t mind open and honest discussion. I do support the progression of the I UV exchange and all that goes with it to come into being. I am not interested in personal attacks on other beings. But if it has to do with the mechanisms, I think honesty and openness can be a key tool. Leave personal beliefs about the people out for now. I think could help us stay on point. Let’s give it a shot, ya’ll.

      • Tonia says :

        I’m all for OPEN and HONEST discussion. I’ve been nothing but Open and Honest about myself and why I see the things I see the way I do. I don’t talk out of both sides of my mouth and I don’t attack people who are not present to defend themselves. I believe in the power of love and light and I send it to everyone including John and you Sonya. As I recall prior to me re-engaging Sunday this blog was being over run by the non believers and the believers being run off..seems to me you might be contradicting yourself.

        • will says :

          ………………………..

        • sonya says :

          Contradicting myself how, Tonia?

          • Tonia says :

            sonya says : Reply
            June 9, 2013 at 9:34 am

            Thanks, Kenrick. I agree, there’s no need to sweat about this, or be anxious, and I’m not. I don’t have any investment in a particular outcome from this initiative, so I’m really not tearing myself apart, but I do appreciate your kind words.

            My view is that it is blind faith, not asking questions and not expressing doubts that got us into this mess in the first place. The essence of the term ‘sheeple’ suggests blindly following without engaging in critical thinking. That’s why I consider asking questions and expressing doubts to be neither dark nor fear based, but of the light and vital for a healthy society.

            As I’ve said a few times already – if this initiative proves to be genuine and successful, that will make me deliriously happy. If not, I do believe completely that the demise of the cabal will take place at some point, because of the ground swell of awareness and the will for positive change, and because all sorts of people are doing all manner of things in all areas of the world, to that end.

            I know I will die one day – obviously, :) And that doesn’t scare me, on the contrary. But while I am here embodied in this 3D plane, the suffering I witness does distress me, and if I can do something to alleviate that, or end such widespread suffering, I’ll do what I can.

            So questioning and doubting is of the light?..and yet those of us who have already done our internal questioning and have come to this place of understanding and knowing aren’t capable of critical thinking? Is that a judgement on your part? and are you truly for Open and Honest discussion because if so then all contrast would be of the light and there would be no reason for you to label us “The Love & Lighters”. You also state that “I do believe completely that the demise of the cabal will take place at some point, because of the ground swell of awareness and the will for positive change, and because all sorts of people are doing all manner of things in all areas of the world, to that end” What does that mean? What awareness are you talking about? What positive changes have you witnessed? Please share it with us…I would like to know…I would like to hear your take on how the demise of the Cabal is taking place? and how you don’t consider me a part of the WILL FOR POSITIVE change?

          • sonya says :

            Tonia – this is what you said:
            “As I recall prior to me re-engaging Sunday this blog was being over run by the non believers and the believers being run off..seems to me you might be contradicting yourself”

            I am non the wiser as to how I am supposed to be contradicting myself.

          • Tonia says :

            You are non..you mean none the wiser and again not answering direct questions….Just like John. You always reply with some uplifting nice words and then reaffirm every negative thing John says. You are in this together and I agree with Lisi…you are both trolls and You are only here for 1 reason and it is to discredit Heather, Caleb, Randall and the rest of the ground crew as well as breed doubt and discontent How is that for critical thinking??? Let me say that there are other avenues that the followers of the OPPT take to discuss and share information and most of them refuse to come here because of the trolls and you can be assured that they won’t be sharing their information here so everyone will be left to eat the garbage you and John are feeding them and when Heather and crew come through where will that leave them when they decide to run off because of your garbage? Exactly where you want them…destitute and without hope. Happy to say you will not succeed!!! THE CABAL WILL FALL!!!! Love & Light and just to be clear….I do say it and mean it with the purest of heart and intent to send you love and light as it’s the only way to defeat the dark!! To the rest of you…Good Luck..please go in your hearts and use your own discernment…it’s your God given right and ability…don’t be fooled by the fear mongering and negativity,,,,it’s only used to trick you and to harvest your energy. Peace

          • sonya says :

            Yes, I spotted the spelling mistake but had already pressed the button, so it wouldn’t let me correct it.

            With respect, Tonia – you are the one who won’t reply to a simple question. I asked how I was supposed to be contradicting myself but you still haven’t told me.

  90. Jesse says :

    This question is to John

    I basically agree with all of your postings You mentioned above that all of Heathers UCC filings have been removed by the PTW because of fraud and that Heather acknowledged this but it doesn’t matter because of universal law?
    When did she state this and maybe this is why Caleb took down the onepeople1776.org web page with copies of all the filings. Why did they change the name from OPPT to one people?
    If this is true the movement is over and done it was based on the truth of the slavery system and non disclosure to the people of the world thanks for your contribution with the facts, John

    • John says :

      Jesse, if I get time I’ll track them down for you. It was when a number of letters were published from the UCC folks telling the trustees that the filings had been removed from the registry. Heather acknowledged that they had been, but said it was too late, she had registered them in “Universal Law,” whatever that is. (I think it must be some new age concept).

      Heather took her filings out of the legal realm herself when she filled them with incomprehensible “5D” language that was more about religion than law.

      • DavidJ says :

        Hey John — Several of your posts have been informative and provided solid back up. For many, many reasons, this “OPPT” cum “OP” cum “I-UV” cum “CVAC” cum “Project XIII” is loosing credibility by the minute.

        To paraphrase a certain technology mega-visionary, connecting the dots looking backwards can be difficult, but connecting the dots forward will not work. Everyone who has become interested in OPPT-related things (this includes me) owes it to themselves to now look backwards for the purpose of putting puzzle pieces together.

        Participating in a world released from money-related control is an exhilarating notion for sure, but I for one do not want to be excited by the concept of “what will happen” to the point that I don’t see clearly “what is happening”.

  91. sonya says :

    John, I haven’t seen that either (about the UCC filings having been removed by the PTW because of fraud). Do you have a link, please? Thanx..

  92. sonya says :

    John – we must have posted at the same time. I’ll have a look for them. Thanx.

  93. Rene K says :

    I don’t see what all the fuzz is about, the “truth seekers” will not get the answers faster then the believers :)
    so hush down children and let it unfold first.

    Love & Light

  94. Angelica says :

    Tonia, people have their own minds and can think clearly for themselves. You are making many accusations about others that you have no idea about. I think both John and Sonya sound intelligent have have valid questions, so do I.

    There has been many things that have been said by The One People that have not actualized. Of course any rational person would want to question that. I happen to be very spiritual and heart centered and only want the best for all of humanity, but do not want to be led astray by false promises.

    I also think that people will choose for themselves what to believe and John and Sonya are not swaying anyone. I am thankful that there are people out their with a different view and can speak that even through constant accusations and harassment.

  95. Tonia says :

    The universal law of attraction is an essential part of advancement. By concentrating on dissatisfaction with governing systems’ injustices and nefarious activities, the populace is sending forth energy that is prolonging situations they want to end! They need to know that by focusing instead on what they want, they generate the energy that will manifest it. They need to be discerning about information from all sources by asking within, where the truth is known as to whether something is fact or fiction, true or false.

  96. RSTNM says :

    Its sounding more to me that you, Tonia, are in fact the one exercising personal attacks on anyone who does not blindly believe in this. And that you label people as trolls, simply for disagreeing, well that puts it a bit more in perspective. Please refrain arguing on behalf of love and light when you don’t accept what others might feel. This is looking more and more like an argument that each side takes personally instead of an open-minded discussion as to the case that is project XIII and OPPT. Know this, I am not out after you, I am not a troll, I am simply trying to find out whats happening with OPPT and project XIII. Faith proves little more than your credulous expectation. In some cases, faith is just what we need.

  97. Tonia says :

    I didn’t label the trolls RSTNM….I simply agreed after days of reading the same crap over and over and watching others defend themselves against those same individuals and having to choose to stop talking here because the negativity was too overwhelming (read back to find who I am agreeing with) and it was addressed to two specific individuals, not all…there are many people on here honestly searching for answers and being transparent. I called on two people to answer direct questions which they have not. I don’t intend to continue on in this debate with those seeking to tear down Heather and crew. I am certainly not the only one who has asked and or suggested that perhaps they should go somewhere else and all that has happened is most of the people that do in fact believe and have hope have quietly gone away. I don’t see the justice or balance in that. I disagree with you suggesting that I have a credulous expectation. I have faith, I have hope and I have overcome way too much in my life to accept that from you or anybody for that matter. I know first hand what negativity can do to us…lived it…been there done that and if others can’t appreciate that or find some lesson in it or garner some empowerment from it then so be it. Doesn’t mean that I should stifle myself and my passion when I know the damage it can do and has done on this blog. For me BELIEVING is seeing instead of SEEING is believing. I would rather live in a world of hope than a world of doom and gloom.

    • John says :

      Could you tell me what it is that you know about Heather that isn’t based exclusively on claims she has made online?

      I actually made phone calls to her hometown, talked to people who knew her personally and discovered that, far from an elite lawyer working in the financial sector, Heather was a personal injury lawyer that fell on hard times because of a bad economy, lost her home and got involved in the UCC Redemption movement.

      Why do you chose to exercise a positive attitude toward Heather, who you only know from her own words on the Internet? You choose to believe her because you want to believe what she says is true. You have nothing to base that on, though. Heather has done nothing but talk. Nothing she has said has made a bit of difference in the world. “All launch May” she boldly proclaimed. Project XIII, access to your value, and on and on. Didn’t happen. Yet, you still hold her up as savior. She and her zany group of gurus will return from the desert, having blown through a lot of other folks FRN’s, with…nothing. Nothing will change. But, you will still hold her up as a pion of transparency.

      • Tonia says :

        John, first and foremost Heather is not my savior. Nobody but me can do that job and I accept that. Secondly, she is not the only source of information. As I said to Mark I had come across information prior to the OPPT that Heather happened to substantiate for me. She is certainly not the only one talking about “The Event”. Many sources talk about it as well as the New Financial System. Too much going on for there not to be some validity to it. I’m insulted by those that suggest that I am gullible or acting on blind faith because I believe. I didn’t just accept it right out of the gate. I had to take my time and digest it all. Thirdly, Judge Dale seriously educated me on how it all worked (and I’ve said this before in this blog) these tools have been available for use all along for those that knew. The OPPT just made it visible and simplified the process. I knew prior to the OPPT that we were enslaved with our birth certificates and I already knew that our constitution had been usurped I also believe that our government is so corrupt that it’s hard to tell the good guys from the bad guys. I also believe that we are beings made up of energy and light. There are too many claims out there that substantiate it. I also believe that our government has intentionally attempted to block us from accessing our inner knowing. I also believe that they do in fact use programming on us. Hell after an update they say “now back to your regular programming”. Lol. Sad but true. Heather was not the first one to mention the game of duality to me. She did however make sense of it all for me. All told I know not to trust our so called government at any level. I also know that they control our media, sell us propaganda and will do most anything to keep us from the truth. I also know that our government does not have the gold, silver & precious metals. That’s obvious….so where do you suppose it is??? I’m betting Heather is telling the truth. That’s where I stand and I’m sorry but none of the things you have presented here have caused me to feel differently and don’t feel like proof or truth. We all have an inner knowing and mine has guided me well and I can not abandon myself. Thanks for asking John.

    • John says :

      All of this adulation is doing nothing but feeding Heather’s huge ego.

  98. Jesse says :

    Thanks John for the information
    It’s unfortunate for all those of us who put faith in the OPPT as the filings with the UCC looked as though the PTW were taken down by their own system now it is time for the one people (ground crew) to step up to the plate and admit it was built around heathers false filings..
    We have sent out courtesy notices and flyers all around the world that we believed to be legitimate, and we know now why many people have been laughed out oif banks and financial institutions. This is very sad And my heart and prayers go out to all who have put their faith in this movement. I truly believe betters days are ahead of us and that we keep faith that those in power will be removed for the crimes against humanity. We need each other more than ever!
    Thank you for this blog for allowing me to state my feelings and opinions love to all

    • sonya says :

      Hi Jesse, Did you find a link to the letters from the UCC to Heather/OPPT? I’ve been looking but still haven’t located them.
      Thanx.

  99. sonya says :

    Here’s a link to a document about fraudulent UCC filings. Please note that I’m not saying that the trustees acted fraudulently, but what it does show is that, unsurprisingly, the PTW have a built in self-protection mechanism for dealing with filings they deem to be fraudulent’. (Note: The link takes you directly to the document download, not to a website).

    http://www.nass.org/%20index.php?option=com_docman &task=doc_download &gid=1329 &Itemid=.

    • cris says :

      Jessy scusa ma ciò che hai pubblicato non c’entra nulla, lo volete capire “TUTTI” che ciò che è accaduto è accaduto in perfetta legalità interna ai meccanismi dell’UCC? Dalla loro fondazione l’OPPT ha usato l’iter burocratico legislativo dell’UCC , non so come spiegarlo in parole comprensibili a tutti ma ci voglio provare, ciò che hanno fatto lo potevano fare solo a stadi di avanzamento e non presentando tutto il malloppo in una volta sola, la prima documentazione presentata viene vagliata e convalidata, e così tutta la documentazione a seguire, già dai primi passi tutto il sistema sapeva cosa avevano intenzione di fare i trusters cercando di fermarli e rallentarli in ogni modo, cercando ogni cavillo immaginabile e possibile, il nass è parte integrante del sistema di formazione del’OPPT , se girate tutto il sito e i file a disposizione allora avrete un quadro completo di tutto il meccanismo usato dai trusters, che è pienamente legale, altrimenti non esisterebbe da diversi anni ormai, ma presentato e costituito di recente .

  100. Vanessa says :

    And yet all the ones who think the ones in Morocco are full of it are STILL using their website!!! Still hangin around ‘just in case’ hey guys? lmao. typical. people think they KNOW MORE than others. but when this all works out for the people in the end, those same naysayers will be bragging to their friends…’ya, i was involved in this hey…since the BEGINNING i faithfully waited’. AND WHO CARES ABOUT THESE STUPID UCC FILINGS ALREADY. Of COURSE they will have reports that it’s fake, not filed properly etc etc etc. I think I trust what Heather says, since she DID have experience in UCC law, over some random report on the internet. Bet all you disbelivers will be tuning into the show too hey!?! lol. ya…

    • Tonia says :

      Love that!!!! Hey!!!! Reminds me of Duck Dynasty and I love those boys. They are even revealing truths. Absolute data If you will about prime time networks. If not…still very much enjoyed your post.

  101. Lisi McFenn says :

    Hey Cris, excuse the “mechanical” translation, but here’s wut I got from u’r post:

    “Jessy sorry but what you posted has nothing to do, you realize “ALL” that what happened happened in perfect internal mechanisms of legality UCC? From their founding the OPPT used the bureaucratic legislative procedure of the CCO, I don’t know how to explain it in words understandable to anyone but we want to try what they did I could do just to advance stages and not presenting all the cash at once, the first documentation submitted is assessed and validated, and so all documentation to follow, since the first steps the system knew what they were going to do the trusters trying to stop them and slow them down Anyways, trying every conceivable and possible quibble, the nass is an integral part of the education system ‘ if OPPT turn the entire site and files available then you will have a complete picture of all the mechanism used by trusters, which is perfectly legal, otherwise it would not exist for several years now, but presented and formed recently.”

    Again, sorry Cris, if this isn’t right on point…

  102. Lisi McFenn says :

    Check this out guys:

    New “Surveillance-Proof” App To Secure Communications Has Governments Nervous
    2013 06 09
    From: slate.com

    http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=25535

  103. will says :

    the Uniform Commercial Codes were designed as private laws then applied to all 50 states of the United States as well as the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, Guam and the US Virgin Islands. As all nations and states are registered in the state of Delaware through the SEC system of 1933, UCC applies to all nations and their “employees” when treated as corporations and registered commercial “vessels”.
    There is some deliberate ambiguity concerning registration of foreign entities such as nations and states with the State of Delaware through the updated definition of “registered organizations” under Article 9 stating registered organizations includes “corporations, limited liability companies and limited partnerships”.
    For registration and notice of debts within the domestic United States or territories, the state of the debtor is the state in which a filing must occur. However, when dealing with a non-United States location, the filing must be through either the State of Delaware when the nation or state is registered or the District of Columbia which is the second point of registration for “non registered organizations”.
    The reason this system was introduced and its purpose is to provide the legal mechanism for the International Monetary Fund (IMF) as a collector and manager of debts and repayments owed by various nations registered as corporations through the State of Delaware. These conditions were established as part of the bankruptcy administration of countries since 1933 and subsequently updated for the benefit of all nations, states and private/public registered corporations to ensure significant debts are paid.
    As a result, should a legitimate debt be owed by any nation or state/province in the world, the UCC system may be utilized as a means of giving notice within the global banking/legal/corporate system of a valid debt being owed.
    In all cases, the existence of a valid debt being registered through a UCC filing is a prerequisite before pursuing additional remedy of the global banking/legal/corporate system such as a ruling from the International Court of Justice (ICJ) at the Hague which can then be collected through the Bank for International Settlements (BIS).

  104. lisa says :

    I’ve tried to refrain from posting here at risk of being attacked and called a ‘non-believer’ or a ‘troll’ or worse yet a paid shill. But really if you choose to see me as an ‘enemy’ because I’m one of them, aka have questions you don’t..that is your choice. Really, I’m glad I’ve seen the exchange here because it’s made me recognize how far we are away from true unity, even now those who are awakening will attack anyone who doesn’t subscribe to what they believe to be true and scream ‘negative’, ‘dark’ at those who dare to stand up for what they believe. Then have the audacity to act spiritually superior and positive.

    I’ve seen this before, alot of you would make great Jehovah’s Witnesses, just saying. You are all right and anyone who disagrees is to be shunned and should leave. How far we have come. Same old, same old. I bow to no one and I will ask whatever questions I want and I will not run hiding in a corner because you are afraid of what I might have to say. I respect your right to disagree, but I only wish the sentiment was returned with equal value. It is not.

    • Sine Metu says :

      Lol, its difficult for me to narrow down whether stereotyping or complaining has taken over as the new American pastime, but seriously, some people ignore that sort of stuff and pull out the want/needs that remain in the data set of comments to establish marketable ideas just the same. Who ever said governments are necessary for money, anyway ? You see? When you all seriously quit the old regardless of a replacement system the old will fail and collapse. So now tell me that’s what you demonstrate you actually want…. You see? Every last one of you actually wants the old system to continue because you live in fear of yourself in the unknown rather than having any faith in your own collective species to save you. Yes, I do actually live on the street, in case you were wondering, lol. So am I free while you are “homed” or am I homeless and you are owned? Lol. Think about it awhile then go back to your bickering, please, because its practically the only thing that distracts you from the truth enough to keep you all from marching together in the streets with your militias that are afraid of you. ;)

      Higgs. :)

  105. Lisi McFenn says :

    Mark was so “right on” from his earlier post: …

    “A general comment to anyone and no-one:
    We are all so obviously a result of our experiences in life. More so than what we hear, see or read, our actual experiences provide the true position from which we project our thoughts, beliefs and actions. Some have survived utter disrespect to mind and body, had trust shattered and all manner of harsh and cruel acts perpetrated against them and I so highly commend any of those people coming through that not only surviving but also thriving in goodness from it. Some have had no more than a severe wood splinter or paper cut to deal with in their lives against the grand scheme of things. Either way, each persons conduct is a result of those experiences.
    When you look at the division of this forum from the accepting faith camp to the reserved and questioning camp, it’s not hard to see who may have suffered more than others, generally speaking.”

    I might add only that adversity seems to garner wisdom. Thanks to everyone here for all of their FACTUAL contributions! Sunshine, Butterflies & Rainbows! (Pls. no snarky feedback on that – it wuz one of my favorite songs ever!)… Best to all!

  106. Sine Metu says :

    Myself and several others are in the design phase of a workable solution rather than caring about apparent credibility of others based on old paradigm judgmental values. We could use somebody like heather on our team who could write up a simple legal promiissary note in the old paradigm style. Feel free to drop me an e-mail if interested. AK and D already know they cannot participate and the reasons why, however we still love them as we love all, so when they can both finally use real names and get back to what they originally intended months ago if they would like to carry the story of where the real wave went after they fell off it would certainly be fine of course. The race is on to fulfill htj’s dream and this old boy always says what he means, and does what he says, so beating the NSA to the punch now is the name of the game and challenges always excite me. ;)

    • Max Tobin says :

      who are your team please and what are you DOing with such documents?
      I am very interested to move beyond the present impasse.
      Desktop author is a commercially available software I have used for a number of years to develop DRM packs (tight control of digital content can not be harvested in the usual sense) the team are able I am sure to help develop a system for dialogue where a common sense can be determined by the fast evolution of great orators who speak the common language and a CLEAR CONSENSUS is evolved through DIALOGUE. WE ALL NEED TO HAVE transparent yet private input to ANY GROUP DECISION PROCESS.
      So I offer a tool that has potential (I believe) to facilitate this process.We call it “PEOPLES CHOICE” and it simply allows a constant referendum process..

      • Sine Metu says :

        Out of due respect to this forum, continuous discussion on this topic specifically, is out of scope to the intention of this thread/discussion. Therefore, please contact me via e-mail directly if interested; thank you in advance. Sine.metu.ri at gmail dot com.

  107. Lisi McFenn says :

    Oops, make that, “Sunshine, LOLLIPOPS & Rainbows.” (Butterflies are WONDERFUL too though!)

  108. Lisi McFenn says :

    Sine Metu – WOW, I’m no techi, but u’r posts are right out of Kurt Vonnegut! Great sense of humor, luv u’r stuff! Thx for all u’r posts!

    • Sine Metu says :

      Careful Lisi, there are several out there that are certain I am a whole list of things from three letter alphabets to full fledged illuminati and even that I believe in satan or like guns, but fortunately for me the state of California considers me mentally ill, so somehow that makes it all okay to be a member of practically anything except reality to which I am totally estranged so yes I Lubbs you too even though we just virtually met but I will be the first to let you know that judging people by whom they associate is rather moot since even cops associate with criminals or perhaps you have a better example in mind, you know? :)

  109. John says :

    “As a result, should a legitimate debt be owed by any nation or state/province in the world, the UCC system may be utilized as a means of giving notice within the global banking/legal/corporate system of a valid debt being owed.
    In all cases, the existence of a valid debt being registered through a UCC filing is a prerequisite before pursuing additional remedy of the global banking/legal/corporate system such as a ruling from the International Court of Justice (ICJ) at the Hague which can then be collected through the Bank for International Settlements (BIS).”

    Two points. As stated above, a Ucc filing is a “notice.” It is not a lien, which is what you would need to foreclose. Heather, in responce to, I believe Drake, who said that her filings were invalid because there was no debtor, and you could not have a lein without a debtor, stated that her filings were not a lein.

    Secondly, the U.S. has never been a member nation of the World Court at The Hague, declaring that to recognize its decisions would be a violation of US sovernity.

    • Sine Metu says :

      Why is this important if 75% of the world decides to back the foreclosure then its what the population cares to back that matters. She could have written it all on the back of a milk carton for all I care, but if you choose to keep hanging on and supporting a system of any criminal design then hey! More power to you and remember the French Revolution and these words when your world starts spinning around and for some reason trying to move your arms feels somehow like somebody left them behind for you, you know? :D

      • Mamma G says :

        Yes, it is all a matter of letting go and taking that step into the ‘seemingly dark’, unknown abyss ….. and the path will magically appear before your feet :D

        All the ‘bickering’ and the ‘what if this, what if that?’ and the criticism of others and their DOing and BEing …. or apparent not DOing and BEing (an impossibility, by the way) …. whether a person feels the criticism is warranted or not …… it is all completely irrelevant.

        Make a choice – freedom from the illusion of man-mind-manifested slavery, or remain within the illusion …….. pretty straightforward really.

        Scary letting go … yes, it can be …….. but once you do, you will wonder why you didn’t let go when it first came to you. Your world will change before your very eyes …… perception, intent and equilibrium = key words

        ♥ group hug ♥ G ♥

        • Sine Metu says :

          Oh my gawd ma, does that meaning I must make a decision again or not decide to not make a choice between two possibilities that both do not exist since the future only is not ever here and now is only not the past which only can not change never no how neither or not? Or does it mean you already do know that now is always eternally certainly present and continuously changing for those that do choose to only be as they may and are always eternally happy to greet the current place they exist with appreciation as they stand there experiencing it with what to some appears as patience and waiting but to them is an ever connected realization of the living conscious universe that allows them the moment and each breath of life to enjoy? Wow sure wish I had an extra clue but the one I borrowed was leant to other people since I was busy or something I guess maybe kind of sort of possibly a little perhaps probably I think …. Or not. Lol love you Ri guard less you know. :D

          • Mamma G says :

            Hahahahaha ……….. your travels have failed to dampened your repartee, Sine …….. in response I quote thee thy words of knowing ….. sans interrogation point ……..

            ………. ” already do know that now is always eternally certainly present and continuously changing for those that do choose to only be as they may and are always eternally happy to greet the current place they exist with appreciation as they stand there experiencing it with what to some appears as patience and waiting but to them is an ever connected realization of the living conscious universe that allows them the moment and each breath of life to enjoy.” Sine Metu

      • Linda says :

        Many people are coming here to awaken those following a false claim. we are not here to waste energy but to give energy to assist. There is nothing like 75% of the world backing any sort of foreclosure and certainly nothing like that who even know about OPPT TOP or what ever you want to call it. This is a time to get real then the real renaissance can occur. There are many people who have been working for years and making a difference on all sorts of sides of the worlds issues. In order to make any sort of difference you need to be standing in truth not illusion and the real work is on yourselves. Many people who know that OPPT is a total lie in every way and everything that Heather has said right from the beginning, even how she got involved has not been said as it really was – BUT they are themselves involved with assisting the changes that are occuring. The real changes going on have nothing at all to do with OPPT. they only have something to do with oppt in the minds of those who knew nothing before OPPT appeared so in their ignorance they believe that OPPT was the start of it. Also ask the OPPT to be in truth and tell how much money – that you are not supposed to need you know how heather has said that money is not important and how she manifests everything – they have received in donations in hard cash – Dee, Brian, lisa, Bob BZ all involved in large donations some of them over a course of months also AK.

  110. John says :

    John says : REPLY
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    June 11, 2013 at 7:40 pm
    Correction, it was strout she was responding to. It was also in this letter that she wrote:

    “Attached to this email are the screen shots from March 3, 2013, from the international Branch of the Commercial Registry, WA DC, and they are still there. (https://gov.propertyinfo.com/DC-Washington/# ). However, if you search the WA State branch of the Commercial Registry ( https://fortress.wa.gov/dol/ucc/ ), and search by file/receipt number you will see that they are no longer there, and the attached letter to this email is the purported basis why they were “removed”/”cancelled”…I only included one of the letters, but all the same.”

    The have since been removed the WA DC registry as well.

    Link to original blog post:

    http://americankabuki.blogspot.com/2013/03/oppt-to-all-people-of-planet.html

    • sonya says :

      John, many thanks for that. I had searched and just not been able to find them.

    • Sine Metu says :

      Linda, your comments remind me of someone that first goes into the donut shop for the cheapest cup of coffee, then next door to buy a bagle, then finally walks into the restaurant while the maitre dee’s back is turned, sits down on the terrace to strike up a conversation among the smokers there about how the chef and the waitress staff of the place are all serving poison, which leads me to the obvious set of following remarks…

      If you really feel you have some sort of data that can be referenced and corroborated with specificity and particularity such that your enormous conscience and good will for mankind deserves you to wake people up and save them then why are you posing yourself as a distractor, name caller, and general dissonant rather than creating your own web site filled with all the above mentioned data and conclusions where you would be the proponent saving grace of a voice and being helpful to “your” cause?

      Since my statement regardng 75% seems to have gone over your head purposely or otherwise, and since you decided to consider it as a literal fact rather than a notion describing the reality of popular opinion always trumping anything written, especially in any immediate environment, my curiosity is then raised since that sort of error appears to be naturally below the intelligence level of the rest of your comments here. Are you seriously asking me to believe then that you can actually wake anyone else up when the majority of your remarks indicate that you, yourself, have yet to comprehend even the simplest notion that the govt is a corporation, that we have endured martial law since 1861, that our education system is funded and the curriculum controlled by the same long list of sociopathic warring liars and their propagandists that have purposely misconstrued history since the invention of bread and the circus?

      Because you are also blatantly adhering to, and in support of the old powers that were, their illusions of commerce, and even their perversions Linda, your comments remind me of someone that first goes into the donut shop for the cheapest cup of coffee, then next door to buy a bagle, then finally walks into the restaurant while the maitre dee’s back is turned, sits down on the terrace to strike up a conversation among the smokers there about how the chef and the waitress staff of the place are all serving poison, which leads me to the obvious set of following remarks…

      If you really feel you have some sort of data that can be referenced and corroborated with specificity and particularity such that your enormous conscience and good will for mankind deserves you to wake people up and save them then why are you posing yourself as a distractor, name caller, and general dissonant rather than creating your own web site filled with all the above mentioned data and conclusions where you would be the proponent saving grace of a voice and being helpful to “your” cause?

      Since my statement regardng 75% seems to have gone over your head purposely or otherwise, and since you decided to consider it as a literal fact rather than a notion describing the reality of popular opinion always trumping anything written, especially in any immediate environment, my curiosity is then raised since that sort of error appears to be naturally below the intelligence level of the rest of your comments here. Are you seriously asking me to believe then that you can actually wake anyone else up when the majority of your remarks indicate that you, yourself, have yet to comprehend even the simplest

      of “Law”, would you mind letting us all know by whom you are being paid even if you seriously believe your employer is completely askew to the topic or otherwise engaged only in business isolated from the topic, your transparency would be appreciated here among people who have applauded the one lady who “legally” foreclosed the same old octopus as Andrew Jackson behead, but this time using their own poison that was intended to be too compleximicated for even the average corrupt attorney to comprehend were he ever even inclined to shoot off his own foot.

      Are you yet aware that OPPT was a nexus point re-establishment of the very same abandoned trust responsible for the failed republic many people refer to today as the USA? Therefore, if OPPT is a lie as you claim then so is the USA… failed or otherwise, its an apparent fact that the USA did exist as a republic almost 100 years.

      I certainly hope you take these comments and suggestions as a courtesy to you, personally from me since it always disturbs me watching “system programmed” people such as yourself go through the “five stages of death” when their subconscious mind is presented with true factual data that threatens all of the work they have done constructing imaginary futures in their mind: “denial, anger, bargaining, depression…”.

      In closing… Remember that fiscal cliff they started to build in earnest after Nixon removed the gold standard by decree? Did that due date come and go or do you see how propaganda really works? Bet YOU thought they meant we were on top of it approaching the edge to fall, right? LOL, so how long will it take for you and the rest that fell for that literary twist to realize we are near the edge, yes, and staring straight up at what we could have achieved had we been a little more trusting in our local communities and neighbors rather than allowing fancy split tongued money changers to represent us?

      Huggs. :D

      • Linda says :

        Simple truths here, I dont join fisherman wives type rants! My truth network was set up over 3 yrs ago. I pay for this from my own earnings and pension from my own value – I am 65 I havent worked for anyone else and have accessed my own value for 40 years.
        The site info is posted by the members including myself and is certainly full of OPPT!
        my radio show here has had Winston Shrout seen as the founding father of the sovereign / freeman movement on the show so that people realise how wacky the idea of foreclosing by UCC documents is. I also had the pleasure of having Charlie miller and his group talking on the show. I have interviewed Lisa Harrison 3 times. I have been part of the movement of educating ourselves on our the system really works for 10 years now and have real experiences of same.. I have been a 1to1 coach on levels of awareness and consciousness for over 30 years as well as workshop facilitator. I am also the author of two books on what is really happening on this planet and beyond. Your appraisel of me is sadly lacking. I am on my mission assisting those who need to come into reality. I had no need to give you all of this info right off since those who are using their intuition and sensing abilities will have realise I write from experience not malice. There have been many scams recently on the internet but this is one that has the possibility of hurting so many vulnerable people and already has. Namaste.

        • Sine Metu says :

          Kk, simple truths here as well.. :)

          I would rather sleep on a cold hard sidewalk with myself than continue to support the corrupt system in place in any way whatsoever trying to sleep at night knowing I was a hypocrite.

          The UCC is corrupt in the first place so yes, a milk carton would have gotten my equal support as the means of foreclosure in reality is moot to people that REAL eyes that light from the sun that bounces off of little squiggly lines on a piece of paper can only change the minds of robotically programmed defenseless people that believe that little symbols on green folded cloth have some sort of edible or other value such as burning or cleaning one’s posterior after healthy defecation.

          I applaud all of your efforts for whatever agenda you are supporting but then with all of that superior pedigree of activism under your belt, if it were truly of any value to even your own opinion, then why would you find it necessary to villainize, discredit, or otherwise set yourself into the contrary commentator seat on somebody else’s equally self funded media outlet?

          Regarding the 75% remarks, it appears you miscomprehended my notion that I will personally defend the original constitution of the republic of states against 8+ billion enemies if necessary even if only ten or less remained to assist in those endeavors, and the restoration of the republic has already been declared while you were sleeping thinking others need to be awakened, it bears my signature along with others, and 75% always starts SOMEplace so where is your signature and what side are you on ( if that is too personal, then sure, I will comprehend your failure to answer since it could feel rather treasonous, depending on what sort of sleep one gets at night )?

          Hope this helps to clarify how the comments about coffee were both serious and humorous simultaneously above and if you’d like to share a cup with me sometime then just leave one half warm on the top of a newspaper dispenser before you get on the bus like everyone else with so tight a schedule that they are forced to leave me my half behind… Lol, slaves such as they are.

          Huggs. :D

  111. Ken Rankin says :

    I spent last nite fighting viruses. I know who you are and I don’t care. You’ll soon be as impotent as your reptilian master. Hang in everybody, it’s all over but the celebrating.

  112. Lisi McFenn says :

    refs?

  113. Lisi McFenn says :

    Anytime anyone puts things in quotes, pls. note – how would u expect anyone to believe wut u’r saying with no refs????? Refs, pls.

    • Sine Metu says :

      ” Who says anyone needs govt for money anyways? All they really do is impede the flow of commerce and charity in practically every thing they do. ” — Sine Metu

      Just an example to proves I still Lubbs you even after all this time. ;)

  114. nbakay says :

    To those who have some question please listen to blogtalkradio show tonight, according to D of RTS she is ready to ROCK!!!
    TRUTH, LOVE & LIGHT WILL SET US FREE…
    GOD BLESS…US ALL HIS CREATION.

    • John says :

      We learned that the gurus went to the desert and brought about the Finale. That Project XIII may launch July 1. And that we will be able to register contracts between each other on a spreadsheet on the Internet. Mark, who seemed kind of confused, is trying to pin Heather down and get some of this operating in the real world, but is not having much success. He seemed a little frustrated that he couldn’t tell us how we are going to actually use the value of our eternal essence to buy food and pay rent.

  115. Kenrick says :

    I have watched what IS manifesting in the NOW on this blog. My Question is this. Are You Free or Not Free. The ones who know or at lease believe they are Free are not attached to anything or promises and took RESPONSIBILITY for whatever they BElieved In . Those who are not Free are attached to the promises and is expressing Doubts Blame Guilt Lack Limitation and Fear and all that goes with ego. Which ONE are You? Love&Light

    • John says :

      How have you determined that my Doing and Being is of less value than your Doing and Being? You actually are attached (very attached) to a particular world view. So much so that you devalue my Doing and Being. What’s with that?

    • John says :

      You are no more an objective observer than I am. You are trying to make everything fit your world view.

    • Tonia says :

      I agree with you Kendrick…it’s all a matter of perception. I listened to the show and loved all of it, but again I believe in energy..I believe in energy work, love and the power of setting intent. The people on the show were exhausted…each and everyone of them but pushed through to share the information. I also loved that they had the channel for Bashar on the show. Really enjoy him!! What John left out is that Mark said that everyone has $5 billion unless we’ve been damaged by the ptw and we would have an additional $5 billion which I’m guessing most of us have been so I’m thinking it will be $10 billion based on that comment and Heather already saying $10 billion. Mark said that Heather has been in the process of teaching him how she sees things and how she would like to see things work as we go forward. John is more focused on what he calls Heather’s Huge Ego to pay any mind to his own. That’s okay…we’ve all been stuck in a rut during our own healing and growing process. Expansion can be painful!! Love & Light!!

      • John says :

        And yet, Caleb can’t manage to set up a payment portal for his Project XIII. Don’t you see a disconnect here?

        Mark said specifically that the value, whatever amount it is, is not in “gold” or precious metals, but in eternal essence, and he could not understand how that would be converted into some kind of medium of exchange. Clearly, any kind of “value exchange” has not even been really conceptualized yet and will be a long time off, at best. Folks need remedy now.

        I’m not sure there is anyway to comprehend why, if Heather plans to release all of this “value” anyway, as she asserts, she is waiting for the creation of some kind of 3D technology to distribute it. These are people that claimed that while in the desert they opened the Eternal Essence portal! Why are these trivial 3D problems preventing them from acting?

    • John says :

      Bullet points for those who don’t want to listen to the whole show:

      Caleb has had trouble setting up payment portals.
      Because of that, the first month or two will be free.
      A Windows Phone app should launch over the next week or so.
      The Iphone App, and PC versions should launch July 1.

  116. John says :

    AK notes that, after their stay in the desert, their DNA is changing.

    “I find this interesting timing since we opened the Eternal Essence portal in the Sahara this past weekend and collapsed the old “souls for gold” energy that got anchored there so many hundreds of years ago during the slave trade in North Africa.

    We also did a group healing on Bob Wright who couldn’t walk after the Illuminati attacked him in 2008. The next day Bob walked 20 meters (video will be forthcoming when I arrive home in the USA). He continues to improve and his nerves are now reattached to his muscles. He’s got some weeks ahead of strengthening his muscles but he will be moving about in no time at all. Nothing like seeing a 6’4″ tall man cry for joy! :)

    We didn’t specifically do a healing on me, but my MRSA scars from 2008 are also healing suddenly. We are also noticing some bodily changes in all of us including eye color changes. We don’t quite know what this means but it appears to be a DNA change that is ongoing. -AK”

    • John says :

      One can only what what it is they are evolving into? What kind of forces possessed them in the desert? Opening portals into the unknown is risky business.

    • sonya says :

      I appreciate the updates re the radio show, John, thanks.

    • Linda says :

      There will be a big crash for them all when they get back home and out of the group hynotic energy. In order to hold any higher energy when you meet others from your soul grouping you have to have done the inner work and none of them have. it wont be long…. you will begin to hear them talking more normally. They were also mutating and corrupting the possible higher energies if they are from the same soul group by drinking, smoking and hyping up on caffeine as the hysteria showed so no real work will come out of this. ask other seasoned spiritual teachers they will tell you the same.

      • sonya says :

        There will be an even bigger crash for some of the followers if/when this thing doesn’t pan out as promised.

  117. Tonia says :

    So I just got out of a meeting with our current payroll company in which this representative referred to our employees as “Human Capital”. I couldn’t believe it…she said yeah that’s the new “Buzz” word. Ofcourse I said really? Our human resources manager said sounds like cattle and I said or sheeple?? The representative continued to say well I play stupid with some things or they would drive me crazy and I said you can’t afford to play stupid with this because you too are an employee or as you say “Human Capital”. She was a great sport about it…laughed it off and made a note to herself to no longer refer to us as “Human Capital”. I am however certain she will take this experience with her and give it more thought.

    • John says :

      Mark is clearly frustrated.

      “Vision without execution is hallucination.” Thomas Edison

  118. Ken Rankin says :

    Spyware on every site I monitor. Wonder why.

  119. Ken Rankin says :

    Extreme alerts encountered when replying to certain comments. Again wonder why. Sine Metu, any thoughts on this. Was sent a warning to stay off net completely on June 21. Any one here not worried?

    • Tonia says :

      Wow Ken…I am curious as to what that could mean. Perhaps it will be the financial reset? I don’t know, but please post any additional information you get I would like to know more too.

      I have basically stopped using internet explorer all together. It would seem they do not like me coming to this site and other related sights. I’ve gone to using firefox and haven’t had any trouble since.

    • sonya says :

      Ken, I read that a couple of days ago – as far as I recall, allegedly someone has leaked this info and it’s something to do with the PTW allegedly intending to send out a virus or something to fry our computers to reduce the internet capacity of the Western world. As always, make of it what you will!

    • Tonia says :

      Ken, there’s a pretty scary read that mentions June 21st on Veteran’s Today if you would like to take a look. I didn’t post the link as it’s pretty heavy, but I know that I personally will be focusing as much positive energy and love on this day as possible!!

    • Sine Metu says :

      …seriously… It’s more likely that poor service on the Internet is just the same old case of hiring insufficient numbers of barely adequately trained people to do far more work than necessary solving as few problems as possible while generating endless numbers of forms to spread around an over compleximicated bureaucracy providing as little service and support as possible to as large an ISP district as legally allowed for as much promised clean bandwidth they can convince you they provide with as little actually being available for as low a cost as they can lease their lines and satellites for as much as they can charge you while all during the entire scenario using every advertising trick in the book to keep you entertained enough such that the sexy redhead you think you are speaking to across the country is actually some fat bald guy that lives right next door, but if you want to feel that you or anyone else or even any topic is important enough to warrant anyone with any actual control over such a mess to seriously care about you and/or the topic, then that’s exactly the sort of entertainment value that the bread and the circus is about, so if that is the case for you or anyone else that reads this then please rest assured that you are simply too well predictably behaved for any sort of meany head NSA or other evil poopy head hackers to consider you a target worthwhile of their awesome elite tactical keyboard wizardry, either with only one finger or otherwise, so huggs now, tuck yourself in all warm and cozy with a hot tea and some cookies, please, because the mighty military industrial complex can still protect you from four patsies with box cutters as well as they have always been able to do, kk? :D

      …. Now back to our previously scheduled conspiracy drama now that we all know that everything is still the same as usual…

      • Linda says :

        Sine Metu I have no reason to even search for the last message you replied to my post with or to continue putting energy into attempting to throw light on what is actually going on here. Many have come here over the past weeks to do same but it will play its self out in all good time. When you get your $10 billion in value from any of The One People’s platforms come on the show and talk to us about it! Although it appears you just like to keep writing more and more words and answer everyones posts in the same analytical, inane way of a troll who has no other place to put their energy. Namaste

        • Sine Metu says :

          Linda! Oh my gawd! Your flattery overwhelms me! Thank you so much for caring but I had to give up that spot under the bridge well over a month ago to some guy that snored real loud and had a mean dog, so my caste got lowered a bit that day, but its been mostly dry here since so the overhead is unnecessary anyway, but on the other hand though, I might try the troll scene again in the future if the opportunity presents itself.

          Also good to see you are still replying to my messages even without reading them because that’s obviously how you found out so much about 0PT and more than likely how you gleaned so much great information from HTJ without any due diligence at all. If you would like a job and I get another bridge spot in the near future, would you like to do look-out work? Pays free coffee in the morning five days per week and only need 4 hours per night. Let me know, please, kk? Kewlies. :D

          Thanks for pointing out how consistent I am, but seriously, rather than a skill, its only as easy as just telling the truth all the time, even habitually so, because truth is always consistent, you know?

          About that “money” or value thing you mentioned though, lol, are you kidding me? I am already so way novadigm that feeding a competitor is like, you know, breaking up some dry bread to the size the pigeons can actually fit into their mouths, but you can forget about getting me to feed your master anymore, lol, but thanks though, you probably meant that as a compliment, right?

          P.s. your spell check is borkned because insane was missing an s. just letting you know :D

  120. Jesse says :

    Will gave us a great platform software to check out called SILENT CIRCLE it is already developed and proven to a pioneer in confidential communications for all platforms Maybe someone can let Caleb know that his idea is not new and maybe if the Gurus from the desert could start accessing our value sooner? Mark seems to be quite confused about heathers idea about accessing our value. I hear that prosperity programs are almost ready to be introduced to the world. Maybe another hopeful rumor I certainly don’t need 10 billion that heather has declared everyone will start out with New portals healing Ufo’s DNA changing energetically all in one week from the Sahara desert..as George Carlin always said its all BS folks that’s all it is

    • John says :

      If you have an iPhone, Wickr is considered the best.

    • Linda says :

      and she only woke up herself 18 months ago!!!!!!! I am beginning to think that she actually needs real help on mental health issues and Im someone who has channelled higher beings for 20 years but she is so off the mark with everything she is saying that it is very worrying now. The most worrying thing is that people are believing her but only those who didnt know anything before hearing about OPPT. She is using pieces of other peoples knowledge in a very unskilled way and will never be able to come up with she says she can!!!!

      • Tiffany Conniff says :

        Linda, I appreciate your concern. But I personally am not basing anything on Heather or any of the rest of them. People’s personal issues and history are not my concern. It has nothing to do with what I want to happen moving forward. The thing I can say is that I feel much better after hearing Heather and the crew speak than I do when I hear fear based accusations. Can you give any constructive information that does not involve criticizing and dragging people’s past alleged doings into it? When the situation works out in our favor then great. Otherwise, we are all in the same crap boat trying to get out together. Thank you in advance for any absolute data that you have to offer.

        • Tonia says :

          Well said Tiffany. I’d like to see absolute data too and for someone to tell me why all of this stuff is going on in the world with false flags, whistle blowers, the stock market, the Vatican, Turkey etc etc if there is no credence to what she’s saying.

          • Linda says :

            There is complete credence to the info on the completely hoaxed money system that is in our world today, heather learnt that from charles miller and others when she got into money difficulties, nobody is saying any of that isnt true. Many of us have known that years, charles miller for 25 yrs thats how he ended up in prison when he was working on this stuff. What is hoax is that Heather has actually done anything at all, ask any of the great people who walked this path years before her. the thing she has done is run a marketing campaign which lisa quickly agreed to join when her other financial pay-out plan that she was involved with didnt suit her anymore and the huge hype she ran on 21st Dec by doing a countdown didnt come to anything. Heather picked certain blog sites, like AK and Brians to put messages on and people ran with it, without researching or checking the validity of the filings. Do your own research UCC only covers the US and filings do not foreclose on anything. Heather did tell people that there would be actual money to buy your bread and petrol, go back and listen to the shows! and then she tells you, you dont need it!

          • Tonia says :

            Sorry…I don’t believe that to be accurate information. I also believe that it’s a matter of opinion of “yours” and doesn’t provide the “absolute data” that we were asking for. As far as it being a “marketing campaign”…for what? For us all to join together as one and do something about the mess our world is in? I’ve said this many times…Judge Dale makes the case for me and yet none of you will even speak to Judge Dale and what he shares with all of us. Is he on a “marketing campaign” as well? NO…this will not suffice to provide proof!! As far as you stating that the UCC only covers the US..well that has already been rebutted on this blog if you do a little reading of your own not to mention that people in Australia are proving it’s working. Why is a law firm in Australia representing a bank broker who uncovered the truth? Why is a law firm in Germany taking it on the road to educate people? I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Thanks for sharing Linda

          • Sine Metu says :

            Ok, Linda, I like to change my mind often enough to at least convince myself I can still learn so now that you have convinced me for at least five minutes or so that you can both “channel” other beings as well as read HTJ’s mind retrospectively enough to display your words such that they resemble that one jealous upstaging lady that practically convinced me that allowing people to ask ad hoc questions live without preparation on a “radio show” that misconstrued the name of a band from the sixties with string theory because of some idiot on usenet that had racial hatred against anyone, including himself that disagreed with him such that now people claim to know a limitless integral to be the same as an infinite boundary which most count as high as five, please tell me with all of your genuine concern that is obviously spent here for my and everyone else’s benefit here out of the free goodness of your dear heart how much you think I am going to specifically lose monetarily from my wallet that has you so seriously concerned such that your continuous barrage of slanderous remarks about one if the nicest ladies I have ever had the pleasure to virtually meet can be even remotely justified… I am all ears now, and please feel free to read my mind as well if you cherish your insanity ( re: channelling is by lawful determination enough to get you “hooked up” to a permanent happy-time medical IV ) so I can budget my estate wisely after thanking you for your wisdom. Please remember that I can normally only find about a buck and a half per day on average ( but my cost of living is a bit less than that so I usually only need to do that if I smoke too much of my own sales stock ) while you are calculating what is more than likely going to save me from the next round of L.A. Riots, kk? Thank you in advance for all of your hard work on my behalf and I look forward to your reply. :D

  121. Ken Rankin says :

    Rumor, from seemingly reliable source. Rothschild signed off on fed, assets returned to “Republic”, IRS collections suspended, bank reset waiting on a couple of signatures, public announcement in 24 hrs. Obama confessions on July 4th. All bank info sources are quiet, all support pkgs to be launched at same time. Still just rumors at this point. But feels real and right to me.

  122. Sucheta19 says :

    Regarding not using our computers on 21 June appears to come from:

    http://lightworkers.org/channeling/183606/montague-keen-message-june-9-2013

    Montague Keen . 9 June 2013

    Continue to be strong, my dear, knowing that our plans will come to fruition. Occasionally, an attack gets through. Remember, it is nothing like it was when I first passed over. We are protecting you. There is a shield around you. You know at a soul level that we will succeed. You are seeing how those who want to destroy life as you know it, are being challenged by those of the light. The meeting of the cabal [in Watford, England], which they tried to keep secret, is being openly challenged by the irrepressible DAVID ICKE. What you are seeing is the dark (hidden behind locked doors); and the light, led by David, openly celebrating the coming together of the awakened masses. Even those who are paid to protect the cabal must be questioning themselves as to why, what this cabal does, is hidden and in secret, and is not reported by the media. Now, this shows you clearly that the cabal controls the media. They control the content of the news worldwide. You are only told what they allow you to know.

    Who gave these people the right to decide the future of mankind? You must wake up to the subliminal control of your minds. Become who you are, and take back your power and your planet. These Archons have used every trick in the book to lull you into a false sense of security, and to persuade you to obey all their laws that have removed all freedom from you. You sleep-walked into this situation. Are you now just going to sit back and allow them to CULL THE POPULATION, and to create prisons for the rest of you, so that you can serve them.

    You are Spirit and you are capable of so much more, if only you could put your minds to it. They have picked off every country that has tried to be independent and go it alone. They are getting quite desperate to bring Iran under their control. But the Iranian people will not play their game and give them an excuse to invade.

    Keep calm ! You have witnessed what they have done in other countries all around you. You must not fall into the same trap as they did. Be strong. The cabal is watching all its plans being made public. They can no longer hide. They now find themselves fighting for their own existence, so they will take desperate measures to protect what they regard as their own.

    THEY PLAN TO ATTACK ALL COMPUTERS ON THE 21ST JUNE. So, be wise, and have a rest day. Do not use your computers on that day. They know they were exposed by means of the internet, so now they want to destroy it.

    Research the Archons and learn how they operate through mind control. You must be awake and alert. Come together as you have done with David Icke, this weekend, and show that you will not just stand by, and allow this take-over to happen. You are now fighting for your very existence. Stand up and be counted. By sitting back and doing nothing, you are allowing the cabal to destroy you and your planet.

    Together, you are strong. The cabal controls everything: food, water, air, and the weather. But your souls are still FREE. So go into your hearts and souls. Then you will find the strength to prevent what the cabal has in store for you. They are not human, as you are. They are arch manipulators of minds and they can appear as anything they wish.

    Since I passed to spirit, I constantly remind you that NOTHING IS AS IT SEEMS. This is so important for you to remember. You have trusted the wrong people and you have suffered for it.

    The Vatican is now trying to survive as the rats leave the sinking ship. It is being exposed as the seat of evil that secretly controls your world. This is the game it plays; creating many religions and causing wars which destroy the lives of innocent children. It does this by creating FEAR. Now, it is itself in fear, as it fights for its existence. They, too, find themselves exposed and vulnerable. The light has to expose all the darkness so that you can be free.

    The light of truth is spreading her wings across your world. Country after country is waking up and seeing what is being done to keep you docile and in control. When you fully understand that when you stand together as one humanity – all one – with no divisions of class, state or religion, then you will be free, as in ancient times. This was before Rome set out to create the empire in which you now live (though they do not admit that this is what they have done). The God they serve, bears no resemblance to the God of Love, who now awaits you. You have been cruelly deceived by those you trusted. Those who preach hell, fire and damnation, are lying to you. It is all part of the plot to keep you in fear and under control.

    Do not be frightened of death. It is a beautiful experience. A returning home to where you belong, with those you have loved, waiting to welcome you back. It was a heartless thing to do, to make people fearful of dying. Life on Earth is but a journey of exploration which you chose to make, sometimes to learn and expand, and sometimes to bring about changes that are necessary for humanity to survive. Earth is a beautiful planet and it needs your protection. The cabal isolated the Earth from its sister planets which eagerly await its return.

    Think with your hearts. Logic is what you were taught by the cabal, to prevent you from going into your hearts and seeing things as they really are, not as the cabal tells you they are. When operating from the heart, man would never kill another man or destroy countries just because they are different. You are encouraged to see others as less than you. But no one is better than anyone else; different, perhaps, but never better or less. The cabal sees all of you as FOOD.

    Protect and preserve your sacred places. Value them, love and respect them, for they are an important part of your future. The cabal has tried to block the sacred energy of these places. This energy is still contained within them, and when you release it, you will see it changing your world, and all will become peaceful.

    You are on Earth at this time to bring this about. It is your mission and you will succeed. You will then cease to be the robots – there, only to serve the cabal – and you will become loving, thinking, caring human beings, working together to restore your planet. The cabal has not managed to prevent the pole shift, though they did try, as it exposes the lies they have produced in order to make life difficult and costly for you. They are having to learn that it is not in their power to control everything, no matter how they try. In serving them, you are guilty of a crime against humanity. Think about that for a moment. Can you live with that ?

    With love in your hearts, join your fellow man, in restoring your planet. When the cabal sees man coming together, it will realize that its game is over, and those within it, will leave your planet, never to return. So this is their last ditch attempt at a complete take-over with their New World Order. Look at them: they are parasites, living off of you. Is this what you want?

    They cannot exist on Earth without you. Now, see who is really in control and wake up to this fact. Love, and love alone, will win the day. When you come together in love and harmony, nothing on Earth can stop you.

    Veronica, my dear, we can show the way, but it is a matter of choice whether
    people see the light, join together and move forward to a better way
    of life for all.

    • Harald says :

      This is mostly correct, but to insinuate that Iran is ‘free’ and ‘going it’s own way’ just shows that you are just as fooled by mainstream media as most. Iran is and has been under cabal control for a long time. The people there are not free. Women dream of riding bicycles with wind in their hair, but they can’t. Why? Because riding bicycles and not wearing a scarf is strictly forbidden in Iran and will put a woman who attempt it in jail for years.

      The Iranian people has absolutely no control over their country’s destiny. This is all in the hands of the brutal priests, which were instated with help of the CIA decades ago. Any dissident is brutally imprisoned, tortured, limbs cut off and hanged. Everything that is broadcasted by mainstream media about Iran is controlled by the priest regime, and they design their ‘news’ to fit their agenda.

      Sure, Iran might ‘go it’s own way’ in terms of torturing it’s population, discriminate woman, poor and homosexuals, ruin their own economy while the priests steal from it’s people, not helping earthquake victims, imprisoning dissidents and hanging rebels from construction cranes in public, to mention a few of their ‘quirks’ of individuality.

      You might be quite awake Sucheta19, but this comment about ‘Iran going it’s own way’ just tore a big hole in your image.

      • Sucheta19 says :

        You might be quite awake Sucheta19, but this comment about ‘Iran going it’s own way’ just tore a big hole in your image.

        Image is a 3D concept! I did not write this – I just posted it to inform people about the 21 June virus attack.

        Take from the article what you can/want…

        Love and Light

      • Sucheta19 says :

        Iran is free in the sense that it refuses to act as lapdog of the West. It is building alliances with other Eastern countries, including India.

        There is a definite divide between Western (including Japan) developed nations and others.

        If the cabal comes down, the people will be able to help each other towards the light – this is what we are working towards.

  123. Ken Rankin says :

    Just for the record, FUCK YOU john.

  124. Lisi McFenn says :

    Here’s an interesting read:

    The Influence Of Neuroticism On Stress
    Perception And Its Resultant Negative Affect
    Irum Saeed Abbasi
    San Jose State University

    http://scholarworks.sjsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4963&context=etd_theses

  125. moon maiden says :

    Great information Sucheta19, thanks for sharing. It makes me wonder if the Cabal was planning some kind of attack/siege of the internet..why would they plan it to happen on any particular day ? This provides opportunity for info leaks, people to find out and stay offline. You’d think if they really wanted to take control it would occur randomly..when no one would have the chance to do anything about it.

    • sonya says :

      My thinking exactly.

    • Tonia says :

      I love your name Moon Maiden. It’s a name I have used in the past being a water sign and ruled by the moon. :) Very cool! So some information I would like to share with everyone pertaining to this day. June 21st is the start of the summer solstice and from what I have learned in my search for the truth is that the Cabal does nothing randomly. They are very methodical and plan things well in advance (years in fact) and manipulate energy for their own agenda and the summer solstice would be one of those energetic times of the year that they would certainly attempt to manipulate. I’ve read that they also attempt to hijack energy raised by us on those special occasions and so it’s very important for all of us to stay grounded in our hearts and desires for the change we want to see. I personally will be sending out lots of love and light energy before and after the summer solstice just to do my part to offset any damage they may be attempting to do.
      Sucheta19…yes…thanks for sharing…It’s a beautiful message and one that resonates deep within me.

      • Sucheta19 says :

        June 21st is the start of the summer solstice – 21 may also reflect Agenda21.

        Sucheta19…yes…thanks for sharing…It’s a beautiful message and one that resonates deep within me.

        You’re welcome.

        Love and Light

        • Tonia says :

          Very good point..thank you for bringing that back to mind for me!! Agenda 21 had totally slipped out of my consciousness….Love and Light to you as well.

  126. sonya says :

    I found this delightful to listen to, very soothing. :)

    Published on 2 Jun 2013

    Once these fractal patterns of sound interact with your DNA, resonance is established. And once resonance is established, any scalar emitting patterns of Oneness from other humans will move you into coherence, which means whether you’re ready or not you will be sending the patterns of harmony out into the world.

    Grace Space has three layers of balancing woven together. The first layer is the music, which soothes the conscious mind, keeping it from interfering with the bicameral balancing of the brain. The second layer is the isochronic solfeggio effect, used to move the brain into synchronicity, which in turn allows repatterning of a harmonious nature. The third layer is the words. Russian research in quantum physics has shown that words themselves can alter DNA, not unlike the Emoto work with words altering the patterning of water into ice crystals

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Mqh5npk654I

  127. Lisi McFenn says :

    Why do so many comments appear in the subscription to e-mail comment listings that then appear on this thread intermingled with much earlier comments? It would appear some of them are actually responding to certain previous comments, when in fact, they don’t show up in the thread until much later? Why is that?

    • Tiffany Conniff says :

      I think that when you reply to a comment it attaches to that comment by date. Is that what you mean?

  128. Lisi McFenn says :

    By the way, I posted this much earlier today, but it never showed up @ all…(?)

    Neat! I noticed GW Hardin posted it (Grace Space) – his comments are interesting underneath that video about: “It’s come to our attention that isochronic tones are interfered with in mp3 format if the sampling rate is below 128bits. After checking with Amazon, we find out that Amazon uses variable bit sampling. Because of this, we cannot stand behind the music working like it’s supposed to with the mp3 downloads. At some point, I’ll see about creating mp3 files with hi-bit sampling that can be downloaded from soundsofwonder(dot)com…or gwhardin(dot)com”

    “A=432 Hz [tuning], known as Verdi’s ‘A’ is an alternative tuning that is mathematically consistent with the universe. Music based on 432Hz transmits beneficial healing energy, because it is a pure tone of math fundamental to nature (as 528 Hz is). According to Brain T. Collins, a musician and researcher, the standard pitch (A=440 Hz) does not harmonize on any level that corresponds to cosmic movement, rhythm, or natural vibration. The greatest musicians, such as Mozart and Verdi, based their music on the natural vibration of A=432. It’s true that 432 Hz is only 8 vibrations per second different from the standard tuning, but this small difference seems to be remarkable to our human consciousness.” http://attunedvibrations.com/432hz/

    It’s really interesting (to me anyway) how A432Hz tuning was changed to A440Hz tuning (the attunedvibrations.com site gives the history of that), and it says this about A440: ” Music based on 440 Hz represents stuffed emotions and blocked energy.”

    Also http://jillswingsoflight.com/ (“dedicated the the remarkable powers of Sound and Vibrational Energy”) has some free healing downloads.

    Enjoyed Harald’s insights & sentiments 2! Thx,

  129. Lisi McFenn says :

    Wondering wut give w/the comments being rearranged or not posted @ all. Maybe it has something to do with length? That doesn’t exactly follow though, given the length of some of the earlier and even more recent postings. Anyone else notice the arbitrary posting on this site?

  130. Lisi McFenn says :

    Anyway, regarding music, there was apparently a change made in tuning that affected harmonics worldwide, some info can be found below:

    “A=432 Hz [tuning], known as Verdi’s ‘A’ is an alternative tuning that is mathematically consistent with the universe. Music based on 432Hz transmits beneficial healing energy, because it is a pure tone of math fundamental to nature (as 528 Hz is). According to Brain T. Collins, a musician and researcher, the standard pitch (A=440 Hz) does not harmonize on any level that corresponds to cosmic movement, rhythm, or natural vibration. The greatest musicians, such as Mozart and Verdi, based their music on the natural vibration of A=432. It’s true that 432 Hz is only 8 vibrations per second different from the standard tuning, but this small difference seems to be remarkable to our human consciousness.” http://attunedvibrations.com/432hz/

    It’s really interesting how A432Hz tuning was changed to A440Hz tuning (the attunedvibrations.com site gives the history of that also).

    • Tonia says :

      I find this to be very interesting..thank you. Have you listened to the tones at the link Sonya posted previously? I had attempted to listen to that one on 2 different occasions since I saw it posted in information from AK and It makes me so tired and makes it hard for me to focus and I swear I can literally feel the two sides of my brain and I don’t understand what that could mean. I guess the best way for me to explain it is the area where my third eye would be represented on my forehead feels like it’s splitting in two. So would the purpose of the tones be to correct something or perhaps cause that and for what purpose…healing?…balance??..IDK…just looking for others to share their perspectives and experiences…thanks again.

      • Ken Rankin says :

        Would it make more sense if you knew John and Sonya are connected?

        • John says :

          Connected? Too funny. No idea where Sonya is. I’m in S.E. Texas.

          Clearly, though, Ken, if we don’t believe what you believe, we must be evil. Right?

          • Tiffany Conniff says :

            No. I think you are focusing too much on the problems. Could it be time to move in a different direction and use your knowledge of the issues to help propel us forward. Sometimes your comments feel like I am being pulled back down. I read them because I read everything I can in hopes of obtaining some absolute data that will push me up. I am sure you have some. Thank you and no disrespect intended.

          • Tonia says :

            South East Texas…Really? It’s a small world John. My husband has an uncle in a little bitty town in South East Texas and my dad just recently moved to another little bitty town there as well. It’s certainly a different way of life where they are. Back to the simplicity of life. I see a bunch of good ole boys who work hard and come home and hang around their trucks and drink beer til dark. Women who work and still cook them good old Southern favorites and children who love to spend their time outside in nature. They all love to fish and the men also hunt and even wrangle alligators. I always enjoy visiting and going to the ocean. Lots of fun!! I always get a big kick out of that town “Cut and Shoot” when we pass through it. What kind of name is that? LOL

  131. Lisi McFenn says :

    Also http://jillswingsoflight.com/ (“dedicated the the remarkable powers of Sound and Vibrational Energy”) has some free healing downloads.

  132. John says :

    I would like the gurus that were in the desert to explain something to me. They said they opened the “Eternal Essence Portal” and collapsed the old slave trade system that once existed in Africa. Why, while they had that portal open, didn’t they finally and completely collapse the current commercial slave trade system that is oppressing us all today?
    There they were, connected directly to eternal essence, and they didn’t do what we needed most! So, now we are back to waiting on Heather and Caleb to create tools for us to do every day battle with the PTW.

    What could they have been thinking? They were connected directly to “god” (whatever that means to you) and they did not fix the current problems of the world.

  133. Ken Rankin says :

    Does anyone care what John wants? Maybe that’s why he doesn’t get any answers. I on the other hand have all the answers I need. Strange, huh?

    • John says :

      What answers do you have? That Heather says stuff you want to be true? No problem, it will become perfectly clear what Heather is not.

    • Tonia says :

      I have all the answers I need too Ken. You know I’ve been doing my fair share of trying to share my thoughts, feelings and understandings of the circumstances at hand and why I’m so comfortable with all that is happening, but I did get overloaded and lost my cool..so I’ve just decided to not even bother with particular post as my energy is too valuable to be exhausted on anyone that is hell bent on trying to lead me astray and better spent on those people who are genuinely looking for answers and support and offering the same in return. I hope you’re feeling better and am glad you are here. I have enjoyed your post..some immensely…and appreciate sharing dialogue with like minded people which is what i thought this entire blog would be. I found out I was wrong, but that’s ok because it does still boil down to free will choice. Even with all the facts and data at hand there will be some that will still choose not to believe. While I’m waiting for this to all come to fruition I enjoy watching Bill Hicks..He was so damn funny and so right on top of it all…the sad thing for me is I was not aware of any of this back then or him while he was still here..I would love to hear what he would be saying today. I have always loved George Carlin, but had never seen the video where he tells us all about ” The Owners of the County” until just recently on integratingdarkandlight.com. :)

  134. Jesse says :

    All done May then June now July ? Heather and D speak in unintelligible language what’s up with that I’m- BODY ments . Please explain in clear and concise language about imbodyments in Reno is about? Heather is awaiting the st Germaine trusts and pp programs would appear that heather funded the gurus to Morrocco for three weeks. She must have some access to her value ? Why the wait . Awaiting tools ?

  135. Jesse says :

    Please show me one item of truth in the last 6 months that heather D Brian Lisa Mark Caleb has told us about our value, 10 billion in our image accounts, who are they to award these sums out of thin air?

    I am sorry and do not want to sound pessimistic about this whole movement but I think it is another con ploy and false statements to get a following for their inflated egos I don’t believe one word from any of them their are jokesters and laughing and make no sense

    I am gone from these false prophets please do not get your hopes up again they have failed you for 6 months and will continue to lead you on because of very inflated ego in bodiments Why waste 3 weeks in Morrocco without getting this all done . Makes no sense folks

    • Tonia says :

      Jesse, I’m sorry for your frustration and I’m sorry that you have been scammed before. I think we all have. However, I’m not sure I understand how you can say that they have failed us for 6 months or that this is a scam. They haven’t asked us for anything and in fact haven’t asked us to be here or to follow them. That has been our free will choice. Heather has said over and over again that we don’t have to follow her and in fact tells us to take ALL of the information and dissect it and use our own inner abilities to discern the truth for ourselves. If you have read all the information that has been made available to us, done your own research and it doesn’t ring true for you then so be it. I can appreciate that. However, what suggests that the time spent in Morocco was a waste? Do you not believe in or understand energy work? Do you not believe in the power of prayer and people setting intent to bring about change? The ptw absolutely know about setting intent and bringing about change as they have used it to control us for a very long time…just look at what goes on at “The Grove” and the “Cremation of Care”. I’ve done energy work and I know it works…I didn’t always understand it and was scared of it all for a long time until a situation manifest in my life and forced me to take steps to educate myself and learn to defend myself and now I’m a believer and I not only trust the work they have done in Morocco I know that it was necessary and many of us here were there in spirit and lent our energy to that work. For me I could actually tap in and feel it. I’m guessing I’m not alone in that as I’ve heard others talk about it as well. That all being said Jesse..it is your decision to make and I support that!!! I just wanted to share a different point of view and perspective with you. Have a great day!!!

  136. Lisi McFenn says :

    Actually I did see the earlier posting w/the tones put up earlier, but my kudos for the post somehow didn’t make the cut.(?!) even after 2 separate postings. (Hmmm) So had to take out everything about that earlier post and simply post new info (monitored). Go figure… Speaking of tones, the tone on this thread seems less attack-oriented, and I GET what everyone’s saying – appreciate the referenced comments, some were difficult to make out though which appeared translated & hard to follow. This has been a very interesting thread to read, but the posting progression doesn’t seem to follow any logical deletion criteria. Anyway, thx for the info…

    • Tonia says :

      Are you using internet explorer by chance? I can’t hardly get to this site using it and if it does come up and load posting comments wasn’t really working for me either. I can’t even post comments from my cell phone anymore which is an android. I have had to move to firefox and since I have I don’t encounter those issues….just a thought…might help. :)

  137. Ines says :

    One Peoples’ Public Notice Board http://pn.i-uv.com/

  138. Lisi McFenn says :

    Possibility of course. Thx for the feedback Tonia. I noticed Mark Hoza(sp?) put out a msg he’s aware of readers’ frustrations so perhaps they’re tuning in to these threads. Awful lot going on just now in different arenas…

  139. Ken Rankin says :

    Info….The viruses I was fighting were on my computer. Had to have help to get past. Direct replys to John sent my pc into shock. Wonder why? Again FUCK YOU john and sonya too. Your days are numbered. Your paychecks will soon start bouncing..

    • John says :

      Ken, you are retrieving messages from the i-uv.com forum when you reply to my messages. There is no connection between our computers, so you can’t blame me.

      It’s paranoid to believe that the only reason anyone would disagree with you would be if they were a government shill. Surely you have noticed in life that there are people who believe differently than you.

  140. Kenrick says :

    You are right, paranoia is an ego thing, its when fear sets in and the ego has no answers to the questions, confusion sets in, then the questions goes around and around. Why dont you try meditation and give your brains a rest. You Will feel much better for it. Trust me. Try LOVING Yourself Unconditionally,. Why? Because that is the Key.
    Love$Light

  141. Al50 says :

    Ken no need to get into any fight, there are more for the truth than against. the truth do not need to be defended it’s not insecure nor fear the oppt or project 13 or the one people, it just be what it is, and who it is, the most powerful force in the universe is LOVE !!! stay in a state of love….

    Much love!!!!!!!!!!!

  142. Mark says :

    Now now Ken, that’s two “FUCK YOU”s to John. I understand how the counter views of John and others might cause one to have inner conflict, turmoil and confusion. I think in the interests of ‘Love and Light’ eternal essence beings, energy ascended consciousness…an apology should be forthcoming to John. Public of course..in the interests of transparency. Seeing as though he has eliminated himself as a possible source of your recent viral problems.

    Oh I’m loving this forum. I guess it’s counter productive and negative of me to post in here without anything real to contribute but hey! You guys are providing amusement for me so that’s a good thing yeah? Besides, I’m still at a stalemate of advancement in either direction because I’m still waiting for answers to my questions from over a week ago.

    Written and authorised by me, Mark, who has no connection to anybody!

  143. Sine Metu says :

    Okay so it’s okay to be paranoid since after all is said and done, one was obviously mentally ill if one felt they were being watched but because insufficient numbers of people were “getting the drift” they started putting cameras on every street corner which was enough to pay for better optic engineering but still insufficient to get all the real coverage they wanted so they finally went ahead and gave everyone Dick Tracy’s watch so we could give them all of that coverage for free and yet the public is so poorly educated these days in even typical social engineering they still cling to the old sad and tired yarn that working on the chain gang shows they are “stable” even though pactically every trick in the book has been used now to get them to acquiesce to the real system so that the final insurance statistics can ultimately come true enough for socialized medicine to finally offer what they hav been waiting on for about eighty years now, complete with scriptures of pregnostication, which everyone truly realizes in their subliminal mind is of course the all free, ever amply supplied, elixer of society itself… you gussed it… everyone’s societal dream… coming to a street dispenser near you …. SOMA!!! So yes, as soon as you can all bicker up enough stress and paranoia, even if that bogus story about spy agencies spying fails to get you to finally admit it, enough people who you forgot to warn will all be telling the good doctors they think they are being watched which will allow the AMA to keep its unchallenged reputation in tact since rewriting all of those silly questions about who the current president might be or where exactly a voice is heard would cost them, the academic institutions, and all of their lawyers and secretary’s a major fortune and everyone here would cry all night long if such a sad state of affairs were allowed to ever occur, you know? :D

    Face it, the only way to get rid of the booze, gasoline, and the rest of your sanity all in one fell swoop is to simply get you to ask for it. But you all go right on ahead owning things or thinking that you do while your water supply is still all pristine clean since the two concepts of owning and sharing are mutually exclusive and only one of them is associated with slaves, lol. :D

    And be honest, did you really answer all ten of those psychiatric questions truthfully or did you just want that job instead? Lol

    { sine scans up at all the confessions in the above comments and knows why people use their fake names }

    • John says :

      Sine gets the “run-on sentences award” for today.

      Look, the world has serious problems. The U.S. has serious problems. But those problems are not an illusion. And pretending they are an illusion is not going to solve them. Magic thinking is not going to solve them. Fantasies about having collapsed corporations and governments while they clearly continue to exist and function as always, is not going to solve them. Real-world engagement with the world as it is will be required to solve them. We don’t need energetic portals into eternal essence to solve our problems. We need people, a lot of people, who are not constantly distracted by technology or religious fantasy, to engage in the political and social arena to bring about change.

      We’ve been trying for years to defeat the “dark cabal” with the UCC and dozens of other redemption “systems.” And here we are. Still talking smack about the evil corporations and governments, and farther from remedy than we were decades ago. How many times do we need to bash our heads against the wall before we realize that all we are doing is making our heads hurt? If there is anything that the OPPT thing has taught me, it’s that there is no savior “out there.” The new “I-UV” is, in reality, the old UCC redemption movement repackaged in a shiny new box. And Heather, with all her high-sounding “5D” talk, has accomplished no more than any other UCC redemption guru.

      • nbakay says :

        So what is your solution John?
        TRUTH LOVE & LIGHT WILLSET US FREE…
        GOD BLESS…US ALL HIS CREATION.

        • John says :

          You didn’t read my post.

          • Sine Metu says :

            John, why should anyone care about serious problems in the USA? Let me see if I can get this straight… You are trying to tell me that just because a bunch of clowns all wear fancy titles around their names and are able to convince a bunch of people that couldn’t defend their own property even if it were only made out of imaginary lines on paper that they will solve all those problems and because they wrote a bunch of squiggly lines on paper and call themselves elected and rich and famous and whatever you actually believe I rely on anyone else to survive and/or solve my daily problems for me and because I live in the same geographic area that these afore mentioned clowns claim to “own”, labeled the USA, you think I owe them or anyone that believes in their delusions some of my mental time and processing power to solve THEIR problems for THEM as if I were somehow liable for them but simultaneously when I provide a simple solution that every reasonable individual could perform, they all cling in fear of the unknown to their broken imaginary system then turn around in anger to blame practically anyone or anything other than themselves and complain once again about the afore mentioned clowns, right?

            Kk, see if you can wrap your head around the following facts, please… If that system were merely broken rather than corrupt to the degree of detriment to the entire species, then sure, it might be worth some of practically anyone’s time to come up with a work-around, or perhaps even a real cure all mend and the system could then endure its bankruptcy and maybe even get back on its feet again someday, but those are all pipe dreams John. Just because the grocer hoards a bunch of food under lock and key and just because you need a little green permission slip from “your” broken government to get him to let some of that food fall into your hands so you can “own” it is exactly the same reason you think that system is still running, so who actually gave those clowns the right to give you permission to eat in the first place, huh? YOU DO because they own your heart and mind and rather than stand up and walk out all alone onto the street, you find them convenient to use, even if only to complain about them right? :D

            That system is broke beyond repair though, John so even though the choices are the same as always, procrastination of starting to build something new is all most are doing nowadays, do what’s your rush ? You can help by pitching in, or just like the old system… Sit back all comfy and let everyone else determine your fate as you stand in line some place wishing you were anywhere else but reality, you know? :)

  144. nbakay says :

    I think you must address your question directly to Heather, may be it’s not hard to reach her; she has an email address isn’t it?
    TRUTH, LOVE & LIGHT WILL SET US FREE…
    GOD BLESS…US ALL HIS CREATION.

    • John says :

      Heather speaks in an incomprehensible language. Her intent is to obfuscate and intimidate.

      • Sine Metu says :

        Incomprehensible to you so how could you possibly know her intent? Makes clear sense to me and she creates her own choice of which plain English word groups she prefers rather than relying on habitual phrases which are easily misconstrued from one locale to another. So basically you are suggesting that you, yourself prefer the types of phraseology that are typically used in mind control and subliminal advertising instead. If its okay with you I will stick to just saying what I mean, and hopefully your busy schedule will someday allow you enough time to comprehend other people that do the same because I am certain you possess the mental stamina and capacity and are more than likely just irritated about other people demanding do much of your time, right? :D

      • Tonia says :

        So does she intimidate you? She doesn’t intimidate me. Just saying.

    • John says :

      She is asked simple, direct questions, and her response is meaningless, rambling, “5D” nonsense.

      • Tiffany Conniff says :

        John, why do you expect different responses than what you are getting from those that you do not resonate with. They seem to be giving you exactly what you expect of them. This proves the point to me that all is subjective. Thank you John for showing that.

      • Tonia says :

        Meaningless 5D nonsense only suggests that you don’t get it and are currently incapable of understanding it. However I’ve heard Heather say it isn’t about ascension John “ascend from what to what” I believe is how she said it and yet you keep stating 5D over and over again. There are many sites talking about ascension that I’m sure would be more than happy to educate you on it if that’s your real concern. Idk. Just trying to figure out what ur real issue is.

  145. Kenrick says :

    Hi Folks did you Know that the The Enemy is “Within” The reflection of the the Dark Cabal is your ego. There is NO Out there. Out There IS a Mirror reflection of your ” Perception” Which is manifested accordingly to the Law of Causes and Effect. What you Put in IS what You Get Out. That Is Why YOU are RESPONSIBLE for your thoughts and your Deeds your actions. STOP Blaming others. It seems that some people needs to understand the Spiritual aspect of TOP. Spirit IS the CREATOR. I presume the Money was the Major reason some people got intrested, and Freedom never got mention. Whats the point of having money and not FREE? Love&Light

    • Tiffany Conniff says :

      Thank you, Kenrick. I needed this reminder. I resonate with this info so much. I envision the day when more/most people live in this kind of knowing, instead of trying to pull people back down the poop shoot with them unwittingly.

  146. Kenrick says :

    Normally when I do not accept a certain idea suggestion or belief,I reject it, as my free will choice and Let it Go. So I suggest, that if you believe something and it didn’t resonate with you then un believe it and Go about your business.
    There is no opportunity for conflict as it takes two to CONTRACT or co create that is your Power.
    Love&Light

  147. Ken Rankin says :

    For the record, John and Sonya I apologize. Also for the record saying and being are two different things. I am who I say I am, and yes I’m a little paranoid. Whether you want to acknowledge it or not bad things are happening to people that express their dissatisfaction with big brother. Luckily, I’m insignificant enough in the scheme of things that I can rationalize my fears away. Not worth their effort. But unlike some, I’m not naieve and the revelations coming out of NSA are real. We are being spied on and only recently have i been able to monitor the spyware and it may in fact be a coincidence that my protection software shut me down while posting a reply to John, but maybe not. It also bothers me that people can talk about and promote transparency, when in fact, I’m the only poster on here or on most threads that is willing to post under their real name. How about it folks, want to really open the discussion up to some honesty, come clean, take a chance and let’s see where disclosure takes us.

  148. Ken Rankin says :

    I’m wondering why the thread still exists. Any information available about the OPPT group seems to come from other sources. The information I believe in certainly is not available here. Do any of you really believe that OPPT is in control of the political and financial reset that is going on? They are not, it is in fact out of their hands, and it is in fact taking place right now.It is a huge and complicated process. Many players have to be brought in to the fold so to speak. The financial aspect of it is supposedly all but done. As of yesterday only one signature was needed and it was on the way. But political disclosure is also part of the package, and it is my understanding that negotiations are still under way. Until all pieces are in place, none will be revealed. This event(political and financial reset and disclosure) is a reality and bickering and what have you that is going on, not only here,but other sites as well , will be erased in an instant when it all goes public. Luckily this group has some warning and understanding, a huge percentage of my friends and family don’t have a clue. I don’t believe in coincidence, so I believe there’s a reason that this group exists. What is it? Maybe we will become conduits? Anyway enough rambling, love and light.

    • John says :

      Ken, I don’t know how long you have been seeking remedy. I’m 62 and have been in this for decades. I’ve heard all the claims, I watched the forums, etc. The Dinar has been going to RV “tomorrow,” “this weekend – cash in Monday” for 10 years now. The financial reset has been happening “tonight,” “next week,” “July 4,” “Next year,” for at least as long. I can’t tell you how many times some guru or another has said that only one signature was needed, or two, or four.

      It isn’t real. It’s the stuff of conspiracy theory and it has been going on for decades. Every promise that has been made to us about remedy has been broken. Every one. Every guru has been incorrect 100 percent of the time. I’m not trying to bring you down. I’m trying to tell you the truth, because all of this nonsense is a diversion. We have spent many years waiting for supposed “secret intel” to result in remedy. It never has. Never.

      And now we have Heather. And six months later, we still have nothing. Has all of this been a diversion by the cabal to keep us busy…waiting? Who knows? But now we know everything that doesn’t work, and all Heather has done is repackage commercial remedy, and it has never worked.

    • John says :

      Let me add, again, that I think that the only real solution lies with the people. But that requires enough of the people to pay attention to the very real failings of elected officials, and to work toward getting people in there that will not act only in their own self-interest. But this will take a lot of people. And, sadly, most of our population is so distracted by technology, entertainment and religion that they are NOT paying attention, and I’m afraid they will never pay attention. I have decided that the problem lies not in some secretive “dark cabal,” but in ourselves.

      As Pogo says, “We have met the enemy, and he is us.”

  149. Ken Rankin says :

    Who are you John? You want to talk to me then come clean. Until then your words are rhetoric and thus meaningless. You have no answers. Heather is off the board, get over it . She is not your problem. .

    • John says :

      John Fraizer. I’m a codeslinger…an independent programmer, working primarily with database applications both online and offline. I have no idea what difference that information could make to you, though.

  150. wil says :

    the only thing i see happening soon is a war in syria

  151. Sucheta19 says :

    I’ve just come across this video via the David Icke site. This guy wants a revolution:

    1. Financial collapse of the system.
    2. Common law arrests for all the perpetrators.
    3. Destruction of ‘their’ buildings.
    4. Community based projects.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TunPWDBWrBY

  152. Mark says :

    Well this is weird. I’m no longer receiving email notifications of comment updates on this forum. It’s almost as if it’s by somebody else’s design. Like someone wants to oppress me. I feel violated.

  153. Lisi McFenn says :

    Oh well, the conversation seems to be winding down anyhow… Just when it was getting entertaining again.

  154. John says :

    Let’s ask D and Brian to not be evil and stop harvesting data.
    Brian Kelly’s blog is running Quantcast, a data harvester.
    Lijit and Quantcast, by the way, are harvesting data.
    removingtheshackles.blgspot.ca, for example, has 10 API’s running in the background, mostly to provide advertising and various functionality.

    1. Facebook Connect
    2. Google +1
    3. Google Adsense
    4. Google AJAX Search API
    5. Google Analytics
    6. Google FriendConnect
    7. Google Tag Manager
    8. Lijit – Provides targeted search and advertising benefits to niche publishers
    9. Quantcast – measures and organizes audiences in real-time so advertisers can buy, sell and connect with targeted audiences.
    10. Twitter Button

    There are only two trackers running in the background on this website:

    1. Facebook connect
    2. Google Analytics

    Since many websites run eight or 10 trackers, this one is very conservative in that regard.

    • Tonia says :

      Could the advertising be to cover the cost for their blogs?? Just curious.
      Just to clarify…my comment is to Sine Metu.

      • Sine Metu says :

        Blogs are free. Full servers with web site capability cost about $250 per year. When HTJ said awhile months back that “tools would be made available” many people wanting to “rub two nickels together” construed on their own accord that she (HTJ) would be responsible for creating and dispensing them rather than comprehending instead that the work she had finished, her one sole cog in the machine, would now finally allow the creative entrepreneurs the lawful freedom to safely bring tools to market. If you are old enough to remember how cars that ran on “water alone” were villainized in the 70′s even to the degree that one could expect a visit from “Benny and Tony” to one’s garage if any sort of viable invention were made that threatened the oil industry then consider for a moment what HTJ was allowed to see in her visions ( which are certainly beyond English ). Then after she could finally go public ( over two years ago, by the way ) and finally then after last December, shoved into twenty minute maximum time slots among all sorts of hosts and questions presented ad hoc, from all sorts of people of every level of education, metaphysical persuasion, financial agenda, etc., most of which had previously already read or been told something enough to form ill-advised 3rd party perspectives, because she answered them truthfully in whatever pecking order they were presented, a lot of people formed the notion that she owed them something above and beyond all that she had already finished. HTJ may be a bit better now after six months of computer-user crash course training, but a savvy techno-geek wizard is far from her repertoire. Finally as the day is done, the old liars of the old system will continue to lie, cheat, and steal from the public at large as long as you all keep the convenience of their dollar a higher priority than the labor of doing without it. If your life depended on it, you WOULD find a way, but only your dreams depend on their dollar so they got you all hooked like a crack ho on Saturday night, lol. I already designed a new system, but it would take at least an office for me to roll it out, but that’s okay too because the ideas have all been given to some body else to take them on to whomever they end up. That’s the difference between the old and the new ways. Ownership is the major illusion of hell. The two sides in the war are actually “the state” itself and the “civilians”. The only thing they ever change over the years is the fuzzy gray lines between them :D

      • Tonia says :

        Wow…how did this happen?…this was two different post all together…LOL LISI…I can now see your point..what is going on??

        John…could the advertising be to cover the cost for their blogs?? Just curious.

        Sine Metu…Very good point…you’re so right!

        Is how that was suppose to be…sorry if that caused any confusion. :)

  155. Fotis Bobolas says :

    Like we say in Greece… ” Το γαμήσαμε και ψόφησε…”. So much for the hype, for the 10 billions per “embodyment”, for the freedom from enslavement, for the project13 and the I U/V starting off May ’13.. ah.. sorry, 1st of June!!!
    You guys just let us down. People are dying everywhere – especially in my country, end you’re playing “mystery novel”.

    • Sine Metu says :

      Why people misconstrue prognostication for a contract is beyond me, but clearly on a planet of such abundance as Ma, those that are deceived to believe they only have one chance to survive another hour all stomp on each others feet, push and shove to fit through the door of whomever they want to blame for withholding their chance of survival from them even if those people are only biding their time waiting for the prognostication to eventually take place on its own.

      If I predicted that the sun would rise tomorrow to a group of people who had lived in a cave for the past two hundred years, they would all then expect me to create the sun in the cave for them even though I had explained they need to leave the cave to appreciate the sun.

      :D

      • John says :

        The reason that nobody has succeeded is that the world is solid. You can pretend that it is not solid. You can imagine that it is not solid. But every time you run at that brick wall, you will end up with a headache and a bloody nose.

        Heather’s plan cannot succeed because her belief of how the world operates, of how governments operate, of how corporations operate, even of what the UCC is, is fundamentally flawed. It has taken me many years to come to that understanding. You can talk about birth certificates, about straw men, about dark cabals, about white knights, about space aliens and channeling…and many, many people have. Conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory. System after system. Remedy after remedy. And if the world operated as they imagine, they would have succeeded. If any of these “theories” were correct, one would have succeeded. But they haven’t.

        We MUST deal with the world we see, not a world we only imagine. We cannot change the solid world by refusing to acknowledge it is real. Heather, for example, put all the commercial redemption theory in a big pot, stirred it all together, and poured it all on corporations, governments, banks. She threw everything she had at them. And, declared them dead, bankrupt, foreclosed. Had her belief in commercial remedy been correct, all of these entities would be gone. Everyone would be free.

        But governments and corporations and banks are still operating. They are still foreclosing on people. People are still starving. People are still being arrested and put in cages. And now, like every time before, the excuses have started. And the delaying tactics. Well, Heather is working on “tools” to access your value. But they never appear. Caleb has this amazing new technology for everyone to communicate with…but he can’t get them distributed. He is going to charge $1 a month…but he can’t set up a payment gateway. “All launch May.” Then June 1. Now July 1.

        Fantasy is never going to make a difference. New age, “5D,” or UCC commercial remedy; it doesn’t matter what the fantasy, none of them have ever changed anything. Never. Not once.

      • Fotis Bobolas says :

        Dear “embodyment”, if you were to humbly lower yourself down to address human problems, you’d know you first and out most, have to speak to 7 billion poor and narrow minded fellow “embodyments” in a human language, a language they understand! You people, contrary to so many primitive cave people of us, who politely asked you to speak humanly, keep speaking the 5th dimensional “mambo-jumbo”. How in the world you’d expect those 7 billion primitive cave souls, to know how to break from the cave?… Just pause for a minute and reflect.
        You guys, speak from the very beginning of “something” that “will” FREE humans from enslavement. The “something” WILL! Not he humans will…!!!
        You also hyped us with anticipation, promising specific months and dates… Why you did that? You know perfectly well what the outcome would be if you weren’t delivering on your promises…
        Now you blame 7 billion primitive cave people for not knowing (themselves) how to break from the cave…

        I’d use several adjectives to describe your stance (yours and many others’), but I’d rather be polite and choose… “entertaining”;)

      • Tonia says :

        Very good point….you’re so right!!!

        • Sine Metu says :

          The analogy of the cave is very old and classic, however, to break it down for you, the sun was “predicted” to rise, out of sheer common sense to anyone already outside of the cave, but also that sun will rise of its own accord, specifically meaning: regardless that someone happened to predict so. To break it down for you further, that someone that predicted a new value-for-value system coming was HTJ. To break it down even simpler and because you and others complain about words that are perfectly well used yet still as of yet uncommon to the main stream propaganda reader, the reason to say “value-for-value” rather than “monetary”, “financial”, “fiscal”, “barter”, “trade”, “stock”, “accounting”, or any other term you might be accustomed is because until that system is designed and implemented, any one of those terms would more than likely be incorrect, misleading, etc. To leave the cave is simple: “Stop using dollars”. That is technically very easy to do since the physical labor involved in ceasing that action is certainly less than its continuance. The convenience of that, however, is more than likely too small compared to what most people are willing to enslave themselves. Put another way: most people prefer to wholly depend on the broken corrupt system, but most especially because they would rather leave grand plans and designs to other people; yes even though during those processes they love to complain about how long such things take even as if they are owed those labors. Back to the analogy then, again, in other words, they want the new system brought to them BEFORE they are willing to give up the old. They want the person who predicted the sun will rise to create one for them inside the cave. I presume you get the idea now and also please be aware that terms like 5D are fabricated mumbo jumbo artifacts from USENET nearly 15 years ago, so by using them instead of something like perhaps “eloquent”, or ” literal”, you actually set yoursellf into a stereotype of people that have failed to interact with the Internet over the past thirty years rather than someone who has. :D

          • Tonia says :

            Again…love how you simplify and break it down Sine Metu. Very nice!! :) Thank you!

          • Mamma G says :

            Beautifully expressed ……. can Sine repeat in Ri?
            :D

          • Fotis Bobolas says :

            Sine Metu, you seem to climax a bold and destructive propaganda here, and I’d rather not maintain a “courteous” dialog empty of substance. We owe (at least I do), to be frank and respectful to all human beings around as, whether well groomed and educated like you, or simply struggling to survive people, as the 99% of humankind…

            So let’s start from there, since that is the most fundamental question (issue) at hand, at least as it emerges out of your above stylish, elitish, twisting, legal-ish, arrogant comment.

            So here is the question for you:

            All people in this thread are more or less internet/community/social media savvy. If we take into account, just using common sense, the number of thread’s participants, number of OPPT social media (i.e. facebook, twitter, etc) followers, and all relevant OPPT web pages’ traffic figures, it is more than obvious OPPT (now I UV) movement has a “penetration” of 0,0001% within the world population. In other words 99,999% of humans, haven’t even heard of OPPT, I UV, or HTJ in their lives…

            So how in the world you blame (better “accuse”) those 7 billion fellow human beings for deliberately choosing to support the old “dollar” based paradigm?..!!! (you cried “stop using dollars” **), instead of flocking into the movement???

            Your train of thought is so arbitrary (e.g. “people want the new system brought to them BEFORE they are willing to give up the old”)… that I don’t know where to start!!

            Just briefly, I’d like to introduce myself to the fellow discussants in the thread. Contrary to you, I am apparently a real person, with a face, a name, a family, and a hardcore 6-year long activistic activity in my country (Greece) and the world, against the corrupt local and world elite!
            So I’m entitled to ask you this:

            Have you any idea what it means (and what the implications are), of the fact that people’s personal, communal, nations’ and world’s Maslow hierarchies has gone FLAT?..!!!
            Do you know right now, the majority of human race is struggling just to survive day in day out?..
            Do you have any idea of the extent of human suffering due to lack of most fundamental human necessities, among them “time”, mental clarity (consequently cognitive suppression), and a such long list of mental and psychological burden?… We’re NOT talking about you, me, HTJ and the rest of this thread. We’re talking about the vast majority of the human beings in the planet!!!

            And you still look and talk down at them (and us) with so much lack of empathy and such disrespect…
            And you place so arbitrarily the blame on people for deliberately dismissing “grand plans” (which ones damned), to live with the old sun instead of discovering the new, real sun!

            To cut a long story short.
            If someone (say HTJ, yourself, myself, or anyone else), has a “grand plan”, he/she’d better’ve made a damn good homework (i.e. sound plan), and commit themselves to delivering on their promises! If they fail to address those, and if they haven’t provide any clue on fundamental issues/obstacles of their grand plan, i.e, how in the world are they going to educate (or un-condition) 7 billion souls, in a really short time (i.e. every one’s short future), then my friend no one else is to blame for turning a such inspiring concept as OPPT (still hopeful to many of us)… into a ridicule!

            PS.
            - If you’d rather address “selectively” any of above questions and issues I put forth for discussion…
            - If you intent on using previously used elitish, twisting, legal-ish language…
            - If you end up suggesting “higher force” (call it eternal essence, or whatever), will intervene to eventually “DO it”…
            - or alternatively other “heaven friends” (aliens in UFOs) will “DO it”…
            … please save it. Lots of sane people, myself included, absolutely don’t buy!

            ** In my country Greece, most attacked country at the moment by the global cabal, cohesive communities formed by conscious and determined people, introduced in full solidarity not one, but seven (7) different alternative “non financial” currencies to fight the “system”, as well as to address very urgent nationwide problems, i.e. 30% unemployment, food crisis and others. The currencies face extreme difficulty to break “mainstream”!
            Are really Greek people (or citizens of the world), to blame for this, or the lack of a sound and realistic grand plan, with powerful tools and “weapons” put in everyones’ hands?

          • Sine Metu says :

            Fotis, your flattery is certainly appreciated, but if you have your own private roll of toilet paper, then you enjoy more luxury in life than me currently, lol. If you have a bed of your own, then that’s far more than I can even forecast into my own personal future. On the other hand, though, if you are in the trenches of this fight, then cheers to you, brother, but trying to share a bagel with you from this location is simply impossible as far as I can say. :D

          • Sine Metu says :

            Fotis, “stop using dollars” is the fastest way. It’s as simple as that.

            Yes, I actually do have a design, but delivering it will either be on its own schedule or perhaps only others will take my bit of work to its ends with me smiling from afterlife. If my name is on it, though, its going to be my best work, so schedules and monetary gain are the least of priorities to me. But just because I can design a system that people would love, only means to me two things, namely that 1) so could anyone else that had adjusted their priorities IF THEY REALLY WANT TO; because even as you note, yourself, only the rich and power-suck-full like things as they are ( suck meaning they suck that power from all and everyone that uses the dollars [ energy leeches ] ) and 2) the people that are in control of the dollar already know it is possible and will do whatever is necessary to keep me or anyone else from using our brains to replace it.

            It is convenient for you to say that 1% is in control but you still use euros which are tied to the dollar, yes? Anyone that uses their system is perpetuating that system. It’s as simple as that.

  156. Jesse says :

    If all of heathers and the trustees UCC filings have been removed from the registry for fraud then all of the CN and flyers that we have sent out are void and nil and fraud. Heather has sucked many good people into her scheme American Kubiki Brian KP Gingersnap D (who has moved her whole family to Morrocco ? ) Lisa Chris Bob mark Vera Caleb Randall and all of us who believed in this scheme that has been used before by CharlesMiller who went to prison. Maybe this is why Heather has relocated out of the country? She has not been honest and open to our questions and seems to have lost patients with us by not coming onto ant more shows and leaves it up to D and Lisa and Brian Bob to giggle and laugh at us Very insulting to us that have been betrayed by a hustling attorney and member of the BAR ( British Accredation Registry ) a foreign corporation as Al Pacino said in the movie (Donnie Brasco ) FORGET ABOUT IT) Love and Peace to all anyway !

  157. Lisi McFenn says :

    Wow John, u’r starting to wax philosophical. Maybe u should write more than code(?)…

    • John says :

      Not so philosophical. I’ve just learned over many years that all the high sounding talk in the world won’t solve real-world problems. “Vision without execution is hallucination,” Thomas Edison said. And that has been my experience with the world. There have been many promises made from groups and individuals in the “commercial remedy” arena, including, now, those from Heather. Not once were any of these gurus able to deliver. Never. Just talk. Just delay. Just bigger does of hope-on-a-rope.

      After all of these failures, I’ve learned to not get too excited until I see the promise realized in the solid world. Heather made the promises; but, like all the others, didn’t deliver. “Vision without execution is hallucination.”

    • Sherayx says :

      Can u explain? What do u mean been removed from registry?

  158. Ken Rankin says :

    It seems I’m no longer welcome here. My last post was deleted , not the test post, the one before that.

    • Sine Metu says :

      More than likely a bug. Too many people pushed the little team too hard too fast but voilà, the site exists anyway, lol. I would suggest some Soma, but too few people have agreed publicly that they are being watched so we all still need to wait for the rest of the population to wake up before our masters will give us stuff to sleep for free. What are the odds it could have been human error in this day and age, right? Some day they will erase all the laws since they are too expensive to manage and replace them all with just a single line that reads, “Human error is abolished.”

  159. Jesse says :

    Love this blog and diverse opinions

    Light and love to all

  160. Kenrick says :

    It seem that Trust IS a serious Issue for most PEOPLE even when we know that we MUST change in order to experience a Positive result. Letting go is simple but seemingly difficult, like any addiction. Then again, that’s up to the individual perception.. Its simple to understand that the World we think you are living is a MIRROR image 180 degrees upside down reflection, Illusion whatever. . When that is Understood you DO the opposite to what you were DOing to put things right in creation. To KNOW why WE MUST change remove the negative thoughts belief or perception of OUR Self, is the Key to KNOWING WHO WE are.Our HIDDEN Higher self in plain sight. I’ve understood recently that its not that we don’t have TRUST. it is in Who or What we are Trusting in.
    Love&Light

  161. Lisi McFenn says :

    That’s happened to a couple of my posts already, Ken. I can’t figure out a consistent approach to the monitoring. Oh well, it is wut it is…

  162. Jesse says :

    I want to thank this blog and all involved in the IUV exchange anything that I have previously said that had any negative comments I wish to withdraw them now I appreciate everyone involved in the movement and only positive thoughts and comments will make this a successful endeavor We are all praying and keeping our hearts open for success

    Love to all
    Jesse

  163. sonya says :

    Light and love to you too, Jesse. <3

  164. Sean says :

    Update from Mark Hoza
    I am going to start posting updates from me on my blog here: http://hoz​a.me and leave this (skype) room running to use for discussion when I have time to do that. So from now on those who want to just see updates can just watch that site. I will add a blog section for it. Not sure what it will look like, but it should be clear enough. I have not yet posted anything on this there.

    Lisa asked for me to talk some on today’s The Collective Imagination show. I’m hoping that I will be coherent and on point so that I can give some idea of what the coming tools are going to look like and what contracting as Embodyments of Eternal Essence will look like, and why that is important.

    I’ll have some sleep before then, as it’s 3:33am now.

    Mark

  165. Ken Rankin says :

    Last post and this time I want to sincerely apologize to not only John and Sonya but everyone here, I’ve recently been led to new info that changes my position on some things. I still believe that remedy as John puts is on the way and that humanity is going to move forward but I now realize that there are still players, even outside the Cabal that aren’t playing fair. All will be revealed just not necessarily today. Good luck and God bless. I’m sure some of us will meet again. Love and light.

    • sonya says :

      Hi Ken, Thanks for your apology which, of course, I accept – and I also very much appreciate your honesty.

      The way is not always clear, but we will get there……

      May your heart be peace..

  166. Sine Metu says :

    Picking up the trust-ball Kenrick hiked… Right now, the reality sorta goes like this… When you swipe a card in a machine, you trust some credit card company to accurately trust some bank to keep accurate accounting on some disk drive someplace of whatever number of currency you have trusted them to hold for you for whatever country it is issued from which trusts the federal reserve to exchange it for dollars which can be redeemed for absolutely nothing whatsoever. So sure, they all trust you to do the work to earn some number while they all dip into that number via taxes, fees, exchange rates, insurance, graft, whatever else they can think off like piranha they even tear bits off of each other and let you watch that show on the evening news if the sports is too boring. And after you swipe that card, the grocer trusts that the machine can access the phone lines to make the call to that same credit card company before he gives you the tomato you wanted so that his fictitious number goes up and yours goes down by the same amount. Then, typically, you are handed a little piece of paper which eventually ends up in the trash. Yes, it’s up to you to store your secret history of successful transactions in some useless way that differs from vendor to vendor and all of which is your true credit history. Gold has something to do with all of this but if you are like most people, what little you might have is certainly impossible to use for much of anything but the reverse of what they all claim its for: value. One would think that especially after the bailouts and etc that people would see the light and stop trusting all of these third party middlemen whom beyond being mostly inaccessible, are all certainly happy to take their cut of your labor, but also whom as everyone knows are impossible to collect much of anything from except a statement or a bill. Would it really be so difficult to trust the grocer or even for him to trust you? The system has programmed that skepticism into just about every single local dealing with “strangers” whom we meet face to face. Here is the question now: why?

  167. Sucheta19 says :

    I will keep checking for updates in the hope that there is more that will be revealed. In the meantime, Love&Light to all here.

  168. will says :

    the ¨crew” havent got a clue of whats going on, and yet again talking to people on the radio like a 3 years old, some can hardly speak ! and that chris, what can i say, trying to educate the ¨masses” ? all i see is the blind lead the blind

    where is all the purported holdings? can we inspect our purported gold and silver?

  169. Trish House says :

    11 year old with an amazing voice and a wonderful message

  170. Kenrick says :

    Well actually, the TRUST that I am talking about is simply whether you trust in TRUTH/LOVE THE ONE CREATOR AND YOURSELF or the EGO representation of LIES and FEAR ILLUSION. IT is our Misplaced Trust in Fictitious entities, that is the cause of the negative experience. Its simple, the perceived War IS against TRUTH. Which ONE you believe will BE Done.

    • Sucheta19 says :

      Clearly this project cannot proceed in the knowledge that our data is vulnerable if we continue with plans to use Microsoft.

      It has to be done using a platform that ensures the safety and security of all humans that may use the system.

      Various alternatives can be found on http://prism-break.org/

      Hopefully this is the problem that may be fixed quite easily.

      • Sine Metu says :

        I, would rather have transperancy, actually. So what is the point of anti-harvesting? In the current broken system your “data” is held in check by experian and other credit bureaus, but what is the point of trusting some total strangers with only what some third party has to complain about you when the thousands of good business transactions you commit over your lifetime are all thrown away? And sure all the slaves have w4 or 1099 or whatever but how many business owners cook their books for one reason or another? So if they want to see my data, that’s fine with me, and to be fair, you see, why should we need to wait for years in suspense for whistle blowers to pop up at random just to create some over sensationalized new opportunity for some one or another group of crooks to cover up their data again? This whole set of propaganda called “national security” loses its wind when one remembers back at how the arms treaties were handled with inspectors etc. I would think that if a real war for resources were an actual threat to the world that rather than boasting some country had 15,000 fighter planes or whatever, that country could show the books right down to the payrolls. Just my opinion and analogy… :)

        • Sucheta19 says :

          It is not the fact that business owners ‘cook the books’ or even that your data is being harvested. It is because it is being used to control the population – your ability to obtain justice, your personal freedom and security may be threatened if you happen to criticise your government or dare to challenge a decision. At its worst, your data is being used against you by your government to ‘shut you up’. People are being ‘disappeared’ and oppressed by the use of their own data. It is being used to break up families (they know where you are, what you are doing at a particular time) that they don’t want to succeed (could be based on race/religion/sexual orientation or even the fact they dont like the colour of your hair).

          They can already see what you are doing in your own home but haven’t bothered to tell you yet. However, they want to make it ‘legal’ –

          Watch out for the smart meters they want to put in your house:-

          http://stopsmartmeters.org.uk/british-families-at-risk-from-smart-meters-ssm-uk-tells-mps/

          that have cameras inside to be able to watch you. That’s not included in all the other gadgets that are able to listen/watch you.

          Added to this they want to track your thoughts as well…

          http://topinfopost.com/2013/06/13/nsa-director-admits-we-can-track-your-thoughts

          Are you seriously telling me that none of this bothers you or is it simply that you are not aware of the big picture – agenda21 is a stated aim to reduce the world’s population.

  171. moon maiden says :

    Thank you Tonia ! I have always felt drawn to the moon and recognize the lunar cycle and how it affects the earth and all the life she holds. I was born on the summer solstice in 1967 when the moon was 100% full, and my spiritual path was created :) We can all raise our vibrational energies to a powerful level..and then release that energy out into the universe for protection. A universal meditation/chant when we focus our intent at the same time will make us strong and keep us safe. Brightest of Blessings to all while on their own journey to enlightenment )O(

  172. Sherayx says :

    Has anyone seen the animated cartoon from IUV Exchange? The shoe store owner and customer, discussing using ur value. And using a bond, like a personal check then offering the bank a percentage to change ur value into digital dollars (US dollars)? What is a bond, and how do u offer it, and how do u write it? Plz clarify or has anyone else seen it, and might know? Peace, light and love.

  173. sonya says :

    From the transcript I’ve just read it seems that the way people will allegedly be able to access their value in hard currency will be by presenting a bond to a bank and asking/persuading the CEO of the bank to credit the amount of the bond to an existing account. Are they kidding? How is this different from the freeman movement trying to use promissory notes for the same thing?

    And, as stated in the show, if the bank does agree to do this, it would be tantamount to admitting that all previous mortgages, loans, etc were fraudulent. It seems ridiculously ‘pie in the sky’ and naive to believe that banks will simply oblige…..I mean we’re talking banks here – the stronghold of the cabal, the ones who run the banking scam for the self interest of that same ruthless, evil Cabal. Do you really think they’re just going to cave-in because a handful of people ask them to? Where’s the leverage here?

    The ‘bond’ would be backed by the value of the embodiment absent limits – not gold or any other commodity…..so, still the question remains, if Heather has ownership of all the gold and wealth, where is it and why can’t it be accessed?

    Neither does the ‘team’ make any reference to the fact that the UCC filings have been removed from the register – and what effect that has on any initiatives individuals may undertake. Without the UCC filings at least, how has anything got any teeth, any more than if any Joe Bloggs went into a bank with a bond or promissory note?

    Of course, we know that the banks are acting fraudulently and that we create the money, etc, this is absolutely not new information, but once they admit that’s what they are doing, they are completely finished….just.not gonna happen.

    I still see nothing at all of any substance.

    • Sherayx says :

      What is this removed from registry? Where’s one of the trustees or team, that has any info on this? Somebody needs to do some updating, explaining or something? PPl r using all their tools, plz show me where this has occurred? It is always something in this hell, I swear.

      • sonya says :

        The info about this is posted earlier in the thread.

        • Sherayx says :

          Thank u for ur reply, I know I saw it, but it didn’t give much info, so I was asking the team , would they reply to it. or of course anyone, and thank u again. I see Heather created a new video, haven’t had a chance to see it. Maybe she discussed it in the video. Peace, love and light.

    • Michael says :

      To quote you….. “Neither does the ‘team’ make any reference to the fact that the UCC filings have been removed from the register – and what effect that has on any initiatives individuals may undertake. Without the UCC filings at least, how has anything got any teeth, any more than if any Joe Bloggs went into a bank with a bond or promissory note?”

      What fact? I just went to the Gov. site and it was still there for me. Why would you say such a thing, do you really think people won’t take time to verify such claims? Rest easy people the UCC filings are still there…..but don’t take my word for it, check it out for yourself.

  174. lisa says :

    http://www.removingtheshackles.blogspot.ca/

    Just listened to D’s interview with Caleb on Project 13, I’ll give a brief cliffnotes version on what I picked up on from it…Caleb and Dee made it clear it is seperate from the I/UV exchange again. Caleb explained that he is charging a dollar a month because Facebook and co. profit off of selling your information, he’s just cuttling out the middleman to direct profit. He would prefer people access it via pc rather than the Iphone as he will receive less money as the Iphone store will take 30% of the dollar. He basically said he isn’t doing an android app because most android users don’t buy apps so why would he make it available to people who aren’t going to buy his project 13. Ok I have to admit that made me go wtf? There are way more android users in my country. He also talked about Mac’s and Microsoft, Google etc. all having virtual stores in about 8 years and I thought, wait so Caleb one of the trustee’s is talking about the future of foreclosed corporations 8 years down the line?

    It’s very clear it’s a business venture for him and I have NO issue with that, as I said before, fill your boots. But clearly when he refers to his company and where certain software companies and hardware companies will be in 8 years…only a complete moron wouldn’t be going, umm wait? So the companies you guys proclaim are foreclosed upon you expect will be running and prospering in 8 years. Food for thought people. He also said something regarding the information bouncing around and that technically he could read your information for three days (presumably anyone working for him as well) but he assures that he won’t. He never addressed the fact that Microsoft is bed buddies with the NSA at all. He also stated it is a peer share system, information would float through the cloud to be shared.

    The focus was on Project 13 as that was the premise of the interview, it was made clear that anything to do with the I/UV exchange is in Heather’s court, pun intended. :D I would like to add that one of my four brothers is a programmer and an engineer. He stated that what Caleb is stating is not possible as it will never be allowed to be completely unaccessible due to internet laws regarding child pornography, etc. There is no such thing as ‘totally secure and untraceable’ cloud activity were his exact words. He said that while Caleb might be able to get rid of advertising on the platform, the government can easily completely shut down his network if he refuses to comply with the laws and withholds information from them. I dunno, I’m not that tech savvy. But maybe that’s why he’s having issues with the payment systems? Wouldn’t they require access to end users information to process payments so Caleb gets paid?

  175. sonya says :

    Paypal is also a foreclosed company…….and paypal refuses to accept payments for Wikileaks…….but they will accept payments for a project which has foreclosed on its own company and all the banks and governments????

  176. sonya says :

    I wonder if Caleb has sent paypal and Microsoft a courtesy notice, informing them that those he is doing business with are personally liable because the corporations they allegedly work for have been allgedely foreclosed on by the project which his website is for?

    • lisa says :

      That is a very good question indeed. But I would like to clarify that Project 13 is Caleb’s business venture and isn’t part of the I/UV exchange, however being a Trustee on behalf of the One People, you would think he would have done what you asked, wouldn’t you?

  177. Max Taylor says :

    Like I mentioned in another post. I would be completely willing to buy the “Project XIII Lifetime Silver Membership” for one “Silver Eagle” (99.9% fine Silver) coin shipped to a location of Caleb’s choice. As a Mac and iPhone user that should cover the 30% one time fee that Apple charges for an “App” download and my “Lifetime” membership. Bare in mind that that 30% fee is only for the original download of the software if it has a price. Caleb’s fee of $1.00 a month has nothing taken out of it except for possibly a 2-3% processing fee if he goes through a third party because that transaction is between you and Caleb only.

    Will there be something like the “One Page Contract” with Caleb for this service?

    Also,it is my understanding, and I could be wrong here, that it is the concept of a “legal fiction” that has been foreclosed upon. A business can still operate but there is no longer any “Corporate Shield” for anyone to hide behind.

    Does anyone have any idea with the “Corporate Foreclosures” if anyone contemplating opening a business, like for instance Caleb, will be legally operating as a “Trust” instead of a business that a foreclosed city can tax?

    Caleb, under what business classification will your business be running under based upon common law?

    Caleb, which foreclosed bank will you be keeping your assets in if you are even using a bank?

    Caleb, I don’t mean to be personal here but as one of the original Trustees of OPPT I think you, better than most, might have a pretty good grasp of the ramifications of exactly what OPPT accomplished and how your are moving on in this world on your terms new found business venture, how it is structured and how one would best setup a business from this day forward. A little insight into your thoughts in this area would be of tremendous benefit to others around the planet who may be contemplating a business venture of some kind and the best way to go about setting it up.

    Would still like to know what the behind the scenes reasoning was for using the number “13″ in the name considering all of it past connotations.

    Thanks for all you gracious help all along the way.

  178. Shirley M says :

    If I am a Bank operating in full transparency, liability, accountability based on bonds certified by the I/uv exchange account in the same process as a regular bank why would they not want to play with me on equal terms with the same transparency, liability and accountability then we will do the exchange, I’ve got a pay it forward Bank plan and have only to chose a catchy name for my bank. This is my focus and only focus, where my energy resides. There are no and’s, if’s or buts, no doubt that there are going to be avenues to put our value to good use for the betterment of all of human kind. I could care less about these details because I’m sending out into the universe my own details and I am sure that those details are going to return to my consciousness better than I originally thought. No doubts, it increases the stamina for my law of patience.

  179. Jesse says :

    Ladies and gentlemen

    The OPPT is nil and void because the PTB have withdrawn all of heathers UCC filings because they were fraud and not approved to conform with UCC protocol So that means all courtesy notices and flyers sent out around the world are a fraud and nil and void So why should we expect the IUV and project 13 to be any different ? Do your research and do not depend on their spokespeople who know absolutely nothing what heather is up to with Caleb ? When they speak on Monday and Tuesday nights what do they talk about that we can learn from ? Nothing but laughs and giggles and unintelligeable garble please please do not put your hopes and dreams on heathers false statements research Charles Miller who founded the OPPT and heather pick up the fall and did her false filings that have been withdrawn from the UCC registry
    Think about it promises of MAY JUNE NOW JULY ???? I am truly moving on because I do not want my hopes and dreams hinging on heather Caleb Lisa bob Brian or anyone who went to Morrocco to play in the sand with nothing to show for it ? Please be discerning about this whole thing thank you Love and light jesse

  180. Sine Metu says :

    Re: sucheta19 comments

    Rather than being “worried” which wastes time and energy accomplishing only fear and abysmal psychic trauma, I prefer to work on a ( perhaps the ) solution, and I advise you and anyone else to do the same in whatever fashion possible with whatever resources you deem necessary. As long as you allow the centralized “powers that were” to occupy your mind, simply recognizing them within your psyche conditions your creative independence from internal realization. The “real government” is collectively conscious and tuning into it means necessarily that one “changes the channel” and tunes the old stuff out of the picture. Yes, I remember the day the man came to our neighborhood and replaced the meter, and I remember his nod in agreement that he knew he was replacing his own previous job of reading them, and that was only a week or so before I abandoned that house, so who cares?

    Collective conscious also means decentralized government means less individual ownership in every which way possible and more sharing in every which way possible as well.

    I am working with a couple other people on a real total solution but guess what happens if I die? It will keep spreading because rather than being in least bit proprietary about the design, and instead of “worrying” about people trying to defeat it or steal from it or even steal the idea itself, all I focus on is the transparency, accountability, but most of all, the decentralization of authority in practically every aspect.

    If you spend your time doing the same and get yours done first, then great! Because its more important to get the job done as high quality as possible than worry about anything egocentrically personal whatsoever. Try it, and rest your nerves. Do you actually see them knocking on your door, or have they now programmed you with propaganda to the degree of fearing what is only hypothetical? ;)

    Huggs, hope this helps.

    • Sucheta19 says :

      Thanks for the huggs – much needed at this very stressful time. Just to give you an idea of what I am going through, I have started a campaign I hope you will be able to support. This is an abuse of Human Rights.

      http://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/rip-for-whistleblowers-1

    • sonya says :

      With respect, Sine, Jesse’s comment was specifically about TOP/OPPT. Of course, all of us can try to devise a different, new solution, and we can all remain ‘positive’, but this thread is specifically about TOP/OPPT and the alleged I-UV solution as publicised by Heather and the ‘team’. In that regard, the point Jesse makes is entirely valid. All the UCC filings have been withdrawn. As yet, I have not seen any statement from Heather et al about the ramifications of that on initiatives which individuals may take. They continue to state that the corporations don’t exist any longer – whilst common sense and observations show that not only do they still exist but they are fully functioning and operating full steam ahead to destroy us and our planet.

    • Tonia says :

      Thanks for the reminder Sine….worrying is a waste of time and accomplishes nothing while adding misery to our own experience. I struggle with it too so I know it’s not easy, but allowing ourselves to be pulled in and down by certain people’s negativity and support of the negative thoughts and actions only serves their HIDDEN agenda.

      We are the one people…always have been…we didn’t need Heather to tell us that…at the very least it is an idea worth spreading.

      I support change…I support love…I support freedom…I support taking responsibility for our own choices and actions as well. I DO NOT CONSENT to anyone trying to feed me negativity or attempting to feed off of the negative thoughts and emotions they attempt to stir in me and others via this blog!

  181. Sucheta19 says :

    I have seen the repostings of the UCC filings. However, I still do not understand why the so-called foreclosed entities of Microsoft/Facebook are being used. I would like an answer to this and other concerns regarding the security of everyone’s data. I am concerned that poorer countries that currently do not have this problem of their data being used for nefarious purposes (NSA, PRISM, etc etc) may be being enticed into a system that does not value them as human beings.

    In the meantime, I understand if people are concerned that their all their thoughts and actions are being monitored by TPTB (as they continue in their operations) if they are too afraid to speak out/support their fellow human beings.

    This is the first test of our true worth/love for each other. No new system/way of being can ignore this fact.

    Love& Light.

  182. will says :

    D update: “UPDATE on Project XIII: Caleb is still waiting on approval of the apps from the iStore and Microsoft. IF they delay/continue to delay, Caleb will launch the Desktop version and to hell with them!”

    Iphone charges 30%, microsoft phone is not as prevalent, why not just release the desktop version now?

  183. Jesse says :

    This discussion really has my interest because heather has acknowledged in one of the calls that all the UCC docs have been withdrawn ? She also said it does not matter because they are now in pepituity and universal law ? What I cannot figure out is why all the delays by D heather Caleb and no status from Mark ? Do you think July 1 st date will be met to institute the iUv and the project 13… Listening to the 2 calls each week the crew has not a clue as to the real status going on and is spinning the issue to buy time if it will ever launch? I am keeping a positive heart and mind for the world to be released from the oppression from the greedy cabal
    Love and light to all

  184. sonya says :

    Thank you Will for the link to the UCC filings – and to Sucheta19, for your reference to the ‘repostings of the UCC filings’. Does anyone have any background info on this? If they have been reposted, does this mean they are re-entered in the register? Confused, lol!

  185. Mario says :

    Thank You All! What Happened No More Comments After 28 June? Today Is July 1st And Where Is Project 13!

  186. Jesse says :

    Promises Promises Promises how many launch dates has heather and her faithful flock put out in announcements? She is waiting for the government to give her the go ahead She has no control as she purports to have may June July and counting what is up with her and Caleb ?

    I am very disappointed with false dates

  187. Mario says :

    Thank you Jesse! Heather does Not wait for Anyone! You Ask The Questions And She Answers Transparently! But is Your Question complete enough for the complete answer you want?

    Anyway now Heather Is working on paperwork to give everyone their value – isn’t She?

  188. Rene K says :

    Opinions opinions about what Caleb and Heather are DOing, if you ask you shall receive. If you ask in a negative manner don’t expect to receive an answer.

    This is something many forgets, especially the desperate/money hungry ones.

  189. Rene K says :

    Another point to raise is the RV/NESARA projects, if these projects suddenly releases at the same time as the I-UV and Project IIIX, then we will know RV/NESARA is the same girl, but with a different partydress as someone elegantly put it.

    Stay tuned :)

    • Trish House says :

      Rene, that release has occurred as I received an email about it yesterday. Here is the link to the blog with the full story http://shiftshaper.org/freeatlast/2013/07/07/poofness-introducing-you-to-your-future-772013/ In it they talk about funds for projects being available within 6 weeks. They tell us to pay off our credit card debt and mortgages and to submit requests for funding for our projects by sending a business plan to the email address in the blog. They said they will take a cut of the profits from each project to further fund us as our projects continue.

      This smacks of bad ethics to me. There is the willingness and encouragement to further fund corrupt banks by paying off debt and continuing to pay into their coffers. There is the fact that they are setting themselves up as an unelected government by deciding who gets funds and by taxing our efforts with a demand for a percent of the profits of our enterprises. This sounds like a continuation of the control system that we are trying to shed.

      I sent an email to the address on the Removing The Shackles blog stating my suspicions and I got this reply from D “As i have been saying for months- it’s all about the contrast!! and this is the highest of contrasts. it has nothing to do with I UV at all. it’s a cabal plan to keep their power- just as I have been saying for months.”

      So, be cautious about whom you support or we could find ourselves in a new version of the old slavery system – same girl, different party dress…

      • Rene K says :

        It’s never good when they set the rules that you must accept them or forget about future projects. That’s not freedom, that’s limiting the actual person (We the people!) in charge.

        They’re not interested in getting the world free of the monetary-system, but continue sustaining it as long as they see fit, or moving towards something they can benefit from in the long run.

        It smells! :)

        • Rene K says :

          I read the whole thing, and as Eagle says there are some redflags, and telling us that the PTW are getting flushed out? Strange, since they are supporting the same kind of system/business, where THEY set the rules… but for the fun of it I’m going to send an email by requesting them to fund Dr Greer’s and SEARS Free Energy projects, since they are well documented (as what they required) and ready to go!

          If they are flushing out money, then it could be placed in projects that are just waiting for funds and get them going ASAP!

          Just a thought since it benefits EVERYONE at least to we get this monetary-system out of the way.

          What do you think?

          • Trish House says :

            I think you have to make sure that you are not unknowingly committing yourself to being their slaves. A portion of the profits will always go to the folks who are merely giving you what is already yours. Why don’t they just get busy using their own value instead? You would definitely have to sign everything “Without Prejudice” so you have recourse if they try to mess with you later.

    • sonya says :

      Playing devil’s advocate here, but it is also possible that the ‘crew’ are waiting until the RV happens before releasing the document(s) that Heather is working on so they can assert that the RV was held up until Heather’s documents were made available. At this point there seems to be no way of really proving who is waiting for whom, or, indeed, if either initiative is waiting for the other at all. Until hard proof is available it still seems to me to be more smoke and mirrors from both camps.

  190. Trish House says :

    Everyone, please see the Removing The Shackles blog for details of what is happening with Heather and crew.

    Yesterday I sent this email to the address on that blog and I got this reply. My email;
    “Hi,
    Thank you very much for this important update. And thanks for taking responsibility for your part in the missed date. You must know that for us it has been rather like standing at the wedding altar with 300 guests and a priest staring at you and your fiance failing to appear with no word why. Ouch!

    About energetics; in my life when working on major projects I experienced that the counter-intention of those opposed to that project would cause all kinds of weird phenomena like computers failing, people getting ill, and even accidents. One just powers through and gets it DONE. But I also noticed that when I’ve been working with a group of people with 100% positive intention magical things happen, keys that never worked suddenly open doors, obscure phone numbers for an office in Europe are suddenly found through a casual question to the most unlikely stranger, a friend whose help I needed but whom I haven’t seen in years is suddenly standing there and offers the help asked for.

    What keeps me stuck to this project is the fact that it is RIGHT. And the fact that so much suffering can be ameliorated when we pull it off. I cannot give it up for those reasons. I love mankind, this planet, and the multitude of beautiful life forms that live here. I MUST support this project no matter what it takes or how long it takes because it is the right thing to do.

    I implore you to let us (the audience) help in any way you can think of. Thousands or millions of us doing positive acts that support this project will lift your boats, will put wind in your sails and will make the journey faster and smoother for everyone.

    Warmly,

    Trish House”

    D’s reply; “Thank you Trish- let me tell you- your energy in this email is awesome help to us! For all those people out there wanting to help, I just ask that you hold the energy as we push on through to get this out!!

    …. and I return your energy and light with a hug and more light!

    With Spirals of Light

    D
    In Eternal Essence Embodied”

    • Tonia says :

      Very nice email Trish…thanks for sharing it with us along with D’s response. I feel just like you…I have to support it because it is RIGHT!!

      Rene…I am also suspicious of the so called “new financial system”. I have read that a lot of people that have been sharing intel are also frustrated and now feel like they are being lied to as it’s just one delay after another. I would not be surprised if they are waiting for Heather to release the I UV Inchange to release the so called “new financial system”. It would make perfect sense to try and over shadow what the crew is doing as the immediate relief may be enough to cause some people to accept it and go about their merry business forgetting that it’s far from over until the PTW are actually removed and we are free.

  191. Mario says :

    Be Loving! Exactly Right Said They Are Wanting To Keep The Old Sytem Going On And On! They Are Trying To Get A New Ponzi Money Scheme Working – Paying You From Money They Collect And Using Some Of Their ‘Value’ All To Make It Seem Like They Have Money – In Order To Get Back The Power That They Had. Just like A Drug Junkie!

    Thank You! Mario

  192. Jesse says :

    Mario

    Thanks for your opinion of heather ( a one woman show ) she is working with many lighted individuals in the higher realms This is Not heathers project buta collective of spirits that are guiding her They will give her the launch date, probably the time of NESARA and rv announcements Don’t expect it any sooner as heather as promised ( may June July ) she has done all this in a collective of lighted spiritual beings Heather has said it was done in may but something has delayed the announcements The banks will get notices in advance and that is what Basel 3 is all about (transparency ) we will not need to fight the banks when weakling to deposit parts of our value. This is all about the collective. We are them, they are us
    Love and light to all my brothers and especially to my dear sisters and the Devine feminine energies coming to our world
    Jesse

  193. Sucheta19 says :

    This video confirms that we are governed by Aliens.

    An announcement by Paul Hellyer, Canadian Minister who is also a member of the G8, that we are sharing the planet with Aliens. There are 4 species that have been here for thousands of years. They make up the Cabal and include

    Three Sisters, Consul of International Relations, Bilderbergers, Trilateral Commission, International Banking Cartel, Oil Cartel, various intelligence organisations, military. They make up the shadow government of much of the Western world and are elected by NO-ONE.

    They want total domination over the entire planet.

    See this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEQd…uM0eQHegb42D-U

    See also:

    http://citizenhearing.org/

    for a copy of the proceedings.

    My last post didn’t appear. Can anyone tell me why please.

  194. Sucheta19 says :

    An article I have stumbled upon which gives an alternative view of the machinations of the world’s powers:

    A taster:

    Within psychological circles, there is a phenomenon known as “learned helplessness.” And from observing many “lightworkers” over the past few years, I’ve noticed a similar phenomenon: learned blindness. For many have been conditioned to believe that to challenge information offered you by smiling beings is an act of “negativity,” and that to feel fear in the presence of new information means the info is “of low vibration” and should be ignored. This has been taught to you so you’ll be unable to detect the actions of our adversaries. And it is not only a form of blindness, but of cowardice as well.

    If I can tell you anything I’ve learned from a lifetime of making mistakes, it is this:

    Flee your comfort zone. It is a prison.

    Seek out what you fear, because that is the place where you need to grow.

    When you encounter fear, don’t look away. Look it dead in the eye until you stop wanting to blink.

    Stare at it until the fear melts away.

    Gaze at it until it makes you want to laugh.

    And look away only when you learn to love it.

    http://blog.redefininggod.com/2013/07/16/david-wilcock-and-the-real-nwo-part-2-of-2.aspx

    • sonya says :

      Thanks for posting this, Sucheta.

      I found this observation very interesting:

      “I’ve noticed a similar phenomenon: learned blindness. For many have been conditioned to believe that to challenge information offered you by smiling beings is an act of “negativity”,

      Sooo true, imho. It has become one more way of silencing dissent, and at worst as the author says, of preventing the kind of critical thinking/dialogue which would detect/uncover the actions of adversaries. Very interesting analysis of a prevalent dynamic.

      T

    • Mamma G says :

      Beautiful …………… yes, the perception of fear is a catalyst for our spiritual growth. ♥

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